Bravo; brilliant and in my opinion a UNIQUE achievement for a twelve year old.
However a minor cricism, the coda (final two pages) is really too fast. Despite this he brings it off.
This tendency to play too fast is a characeristic of many of modern pianists, mainly the young who like to show off. I can play this quickly, therefore I will even if the result may do a disservice to the music.
I am also 12 years old right now (I am using my little brother's account to give this comment.) and I am also practicing it right now. He must be 15-16 years old. I want to know some techniques how to play this.
@KingDollaDolla no he MUST not be, and no one cares if you re 12 or 92 man
there is no technique to play this, it's a combination of many things and at 12 years old if you speak the truth you can't master all this alone and you shouldn't try, your teacher is ok with you playing this piece?... don't be over eager to play difficult pieces
learn HOW TO play without stressing your arms, then work your way up... probably you re TOO YOUNG both physically and mentally to acomplish this without a cost
You're making us old 20 + year olds look bad. How does a 12 year old play something as difficult as this? You too are a child prodigy. What a genius. I wish I could play like this at 12. I would be RICH now! lol
Excellent performance. I wouldn't waste it on YouTube. Well, I guess this is how you can be discovered so... play on.
There is no denying his talent. He'll only get better (if that's possible). He reminds me a lot of Dimitris Sgouros at that age. By the way, what ever happened to Sgouros (the wunderkind with photographic memory, perfect pitch, super dexterity, and all that good stuff)?
all these quarrel here about horowitz and god have nothing to do with this fabulous young pianist who plays like the most famous pianists in the world. There are few recordings of this sonata which come near this quality. Its absolutely perfect what this young man does. from the musical aspect as from the technical one.....
anonymousQ45 really? you're the idiot, god is sure an asshole if he really controls everything, how much rape and murder is there? exactly, don't even try to argue, there's too much support coming from all the crimes in the world, and i already know your ignorant comeback, "god is testing my faith," what the fuck you still believe this bullshit? dont even call johnnyflannigan81 an idiot, i guess god is testing your faith right now through my fingers right? science has proved too much.
@artv4nd3l4y you couldve atleast directed this to me instead of me finding out through another comment and dont talk like youre smart you so8und like everybody else. we have free will we do wat we wanna do. i guess you think cursing gets your point across, btw what has science proved? that the earth is over a billon years old and that we are derived from apes? HA!
He'll take it? Wow. You are the one who is an idiot. Johnny didn't even "Typed" a blasphemous statement about God, Your overreacting. If "God" was in control, why is earth becoming worst then? if he were to control our lives, why is there a word "Freedom" then? why would God take my ability if it will make my life miserable? Does that mean he didn't took the responsibilities of creating us, Humans beings? To make the story shorter, YOUR THE ONE WHO IS MAKING A BLASPHEMOUS STATEMENT ABOUT GOD
when you get cocky and dont give God any credit whatsover for your accomplishments He will sometimes punish you for your arrogance and show you that you are nothing with Him. none of us are anything without God. the blasphemous statement was "God has absolutely nothing to do with this young mans talent". where do you think "gifts" come from?
the reason the world is in turmoil is because man,not God, is destroying it. the greed and selfishness destroys.
@glider209 yeah i said that. i dont like horowitz. i am in tune with reality i see the truth, yes i use bad words as far as God is concerned, you dont have to be a saint goody2shoes to acknowledge God.
listen...there are good performers and bad performers. It is recognised that horowitz is one of the best ever. So it's really ignorant to say that he does not interpret well - it's better to stay in silence...and if we are talking about God now, show some respect for people that have achieved things greater than you've probably ever dreamed of achieving and stop attacking everyone with medieval religious "devotion". thanks
@glider209 as for Horowitz as an achiever i cant argue with you. we all can learn from the older and more experienced. but its not ignorant to say that i was disappointed at his piano skills. i have really heard better at the conservatory from 20 year olds, but i guess people have this seniority thing for him and im hearing everything at once. maybe my view is distorted , maybe ill get it when im older, but ignorant is not a word that has ever described me
now, i didn't say that YOU are ignorant, i said it is ignorance when someone criticizes Horowitz and that silence should be preferred, and i didn't say it yo offend you. To end this, no one can doubt Horowitz abilities but if someone does not like him, it's a preference - but he should be careful in expressing this, so that no misunderstandings occur
anonymouseQ45 - FINALLY! Someone ELSE besides me doesn't like Horowitz. He is nothing but a technician, not a musician, and last I heard him, he's not even a good technician. Bravo!
Go fuck yourself, you would lick a shit to play like Horowitz. If you don't like Horowitz, then you obviously don't know anything about music and what a musician means.
this never gets old. i dont understand how he can be in complete control of this movt at 12 years old and its not just the control but also that hes not even trying hard except for the presto and everything is perfect. his shoulders are relaxed, there is no tension and i think the hardest part of this sonata is the leap between themes and variations 0:130:300:421:02 octave leap, 1:081:111:411:452:00 is ridiculous barely no pedal presto my GOD! he didnt follow fingering in LH but who cares
youre an idiot Flannigan81 made a blasphemous statement God controls all aspects of life but he gives humans the ability to comprehend and if you dont appreciate what He gives you He'll take it and your life will be miserable. if you dont think God is in control why dont you read some books about Bach and where his influences came from
Ingmar is truly gifted of God. This is evidenced by his flawless technique and exhaustive mastery of his repertoire at only 12 years. Many a renowned pianist would be hard pressed to deliver like this. Ingmar must also realize that the glory belongs to God and he is to acknowledge Him in the reflection of it. Genius is not co-incidental or fortuitious, but points towards an intelliegent design. May God continue to bless him as he walks in His purpose.
i agree with u on some level but shouldnt credit also go to hard work, dedication and positive influences(teachers family friends fans) around him? of course God is in control of all the factors that have made this boy an excellent prodigy, but "give the glory to God is too broad a statement" he after all has to do the work with the talent he was given so he and his
I agree God is in control of all factors. However, you must be aware that there are starving children in the Sudan and Angola dying by the thousands. Others are musically deficient through no fault or control of their own. Therefore, let Ingmar thank God for good teachers, innate ability and opportunities to maximize his potential. In giving God the Glory, further blessings will follow him. It will in no way detract but add to his statute.
God has absolutely nothing to do with this young mans talent. He's obviously very intelligent and practices many hours a day, which in turn has led to his mastery of the instrument. Your notion of "God" pales in comparison to what this kids fingers are accomplishing.
Lol.. God doesn't even exist, so it's like saying: "My grandma has nothing to do with this kids capability to play the piano", when you say god has nothing to do with it
anonymousQ45: Thanks, Yes, God gives you the innate potential to develop for His purposes. Remember what happened to the person who buried his one talent. That was an unfaithful steward and was dealt with severely!! Ingmar has maximized his potential to the limit. Althought people's great accomplishments reflect God's glory, they will be rewarded and the rewards will be commensurate with the degree they developed their gift and exposed it so that others got the benefit of it.
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It has been sped up at the end - and tonality can be corrected through a low pass filter - you can examine and compare the way his head and upper torso move prior to, and during, the accelaration - markedly different.
en ÚLTIMA PARTE SE RE NOTA QUE HAN ACELERADO EL VIDEO..mucho estudio pero carece de destreza, es un niño, igualmente... marciano (Very nice, but what about te speed Up in the last part???haha is totally clear that who put the video wanted to show it perfect, but no, he is human, a kid, we all human, even the best pianist have common mistakes, all have mistakes, and he hadn´t the power and the enought speed to arrive great in the last part... the VIDEO WAS ACCELERATED, is so OBVIOUS)
sadly is possible its called pitch shift correcting and it can be done using Melodyne u can now change the sound of every not played in a sample and melodyne knows what note is what its pretty amazing go check it out on youtube.
I just threw that out there. I know Bach never played anything by Beethoven; but you took the bait. Anyway, Gennip plays piano like a harpsichord, and does well with Scarlatti, Bach and Mozart. His Beethoven sounds like what it would if JSBach were at the keyboard.
Beethoven played serious Mozart, no record of Mozart playing anything by Beethoven.
Later musicians, Schumann, Liszt, Brahams mostly played their own stuff. Rachmaninoff and that ilk are recorded and we know what they sound like.
Musically this coda should be played rapidly; this however is played at the limit of human synapse firing. Admittedly it was written as a bravura piece for Ludwig himself who probably destroyed the Broadwood, nevertheless much is gained by restraining the speed impulse just a trifle, controlling the pedal, the metre, the anarchy inherent in a passage run loose.
No, Mozart never played this. Bach however, did and you can watch the performance by Serg van Gennip outdoors with damn near no pedal.
Mozart studied composition with Johann Christian Bach in London, son of the great Johann Sebastian Bach. Petie32 never said which Bach played it so you can either be wrong or right. In any case, who gives a shit ! This is a great performance!
This is quite wonderful. Youth may lack experience, but in compensation it brings conviction and commitment and a fiery energy (though Ingmar is lyrically delicate when needed). I'll stick my neck out and suggest that Beethoven would have loved this performance, just as I do.
The passage at 2:07 is not truly all that difficult. But Ingmar executes the final Presto page with superb aplomb. I would be happy to take his version to my desert island. He has my sincere thanks.
I agree - that's absolutely true. But it's just confidence, isn't it? Just close your eyes and go for it. If Ingmar can do it at age 12, all older players really ought to have a shot at it. You have to think the music, not the physical leaps. (But OK, it's not quite that simple! I often struggle too. Well done, Ingmar!)
Ive practiced this movement for about a year, yet I still can't get it played evenly. Example @2:07, or whenever the left and right hand play at the same time 16th notes..This is amazing.
The ending seems real the sound really doesn't change... the keys seem to be reacting normal. I don't think someone would be that low to speed up a video. most people are threatened at the end of this passionata. Most people play it slow. most play it fast and faster then others. others try to bring out more dynamics. I picture it should be played as loud as possible because it is the ending climax and should be treated as such. this is pretty extremely good. I say good work.
You are crazy. If the video is sped up, then the sound cannot match the action. He actually is playing faster than your eye (via the camera) can follow. The video is real. Get over your cynicism!
It's unbelievable the speed in which you performed! It's remarkable, although one has to think that speed isn't everything! There were parts were you played it too quickly. It's that gentle subtleness were you find masters. You played it amazing, you even gave me goosebumps.
Tu es un privilégié de pouvoir extraire ça du piano ( quand je pense au génie de Beethoven pour avoir composé ça je suis scotché )j'éspère que tu as conscience de la chance que tu as de pouvoir faire ça ( être virtuose quoi )
J'avoue être partagé entre immense admiration et immense frustration mais l'admiration l'emporte bien sûr.
Very good! One doesn't expect to see such good performance in a kid. If he keeps working like this may become the next Arrau. Great technique. I really enjoyed it.
I am a classical pianist with conservatory training from the Manhattan School of music and this is one of the most incredible performances I have seen of this movement. I am responding to you because as I was watching him, Arrau entered my mind..lol. And when I saw your comment, I just had to respond. He looked like a mini version of Arrau sitting on that stage. I would love to see him go places.
let's see you do better at this age ;) Obviously he will grow and mature as a pianist with age, but you cannot deny that he is very good. So I'm not quite sure of your reply to me Pianist
Very nice. My only problem is that someone shamelessly fast forwarded the 4:05-4:40 part. The swaying at supersonic speed and the fingers magically skipping frames is way too obvious. I realize that the coda is the hardest section of the sonata but dont start cheating to show off on youtube. Post the original video.
not true - if you look at his clothes, they move the same amount throughout the entire thing meaning the gravity is constant meaning that is just him swaying supersonically. The fingers skipping frames is because it is a very difficult, fast part - 64th notes vs. 30fps camera - you do the math
Does anyone know moonlight third movement? For those who lnow it, don't you think that appassionata 3rd looks like moonlight 3rd movement? I mean in the construction. There are the same parts.
I thought about that, too. Whoever gave your posting a minus one is probably a religious zealot with a closed mind.
The proof that the last portion was NOT put into faster motion is that the pitch remains true to the notes. If you speed up the film, the pitch goes up. it does not in this video!!!
Maybe we have Vladimir Horowitz back with us again. I think VH instead of Artur Rubinstein, but after adolescence the poetry could make him another AR.
To play a convincing performance of a difficult Beethoven Sonata at any age, is enviable and to play that, so easily is admirable..Good Luck be with this gifted pianist....
incroyable!! je viens a l'instant de voir un reportage sur ingmar, je n'ai pu rester sur ma fin, il fallait que je vois cela de mes propres yeux. J'en ai des frissons...bonne chance a toi, et bon courage pour l'artrose!! mais surtout je te jure que le son du piano n'a absolument pas gaché ta prestation! ;) merci beaucoup,
He play like a MIDI. Too mechanical, too pedal, lacks of interpretation. And, of course, it's absolutely too fast. I would listen him playing 2nd mvt... I imagine it :(
On other side, this mvt require hands bigger than 12yo's hands.
Please don't insult me. I recognize the talent and all (or close to all) notes are right. But if I was the teacher, I suggest him to play other pieces, for now.
who do you think you are? He's only twelve years old why don't you play and let someione video you. Please don't insult you? You're asking to be insulted
i agree with you but at the same time with bugsbugs0 or...are those gs or qs...yeah because he is very mechanical but while his interpretation reflects his age his precision is far beyond his age
This talent is refreshing. As he grows in wisdom and maturity, I hope he doesn't listen to anyone who tells him to "emote more". There are enough professionals out there who use gross facial distortions and piano bench calisthenics to express music while they play. UGH. I hope this kid works hard to keep his ego in check, too. If he can, I can easily see a career as long lasting as Rubenstein's. A++ great job.
Ah ! ! ! An amazing talent, far beyond his phsycial age. He is incredibly expressive WITHOUT the extraneous gesturing that characterizes so many of the 'professional' pianists of today. His accuracy is really impressive. Don't ever change, Ingmar, and I'll be your biggest fan forever.
I agree with your assessment, OrganMan. But I saw in another video his young face doing some gesturing. Hard to see at the angle that he is usually captured. Hopefully you won't have to drop your appreciation for this talent if he starts cutting more faces later on.
i'd say this piece sounds great played by most great pianists. besides technique, nothing much can go wrong with this piece. lazar plays it very well indeed, but i'm more curious to hear him play something more musically challenging.
????wtf???? you can't be serious. like what? something more musically challenging? all i ever heard is people butcher this piece. this kid is extraordinarly musical and he likely would play anything beautifully.
I think there are very few truly great performances of this piece. Richter has one and Solomon has another. Lazar isn't quite in their class yet, but may well be one day. Keep up the good work, Lazar!
I cant believe someone so young can play this as well as some of the profesionals out there; if not better than some of them. I could, and would, listen to this recorded as music to just listen to. I cant believe hes not not famous yet! This is a really hard piece, and hes practically mastered it. The end is a bit out of control, but regardless Im amazed by this. It would take me years and years to play this as well as him.
In general needs to pay closer attention to minor (but important for someone as talented as you) details in piece.
Very beginning needs to be more subtle.
Some chords (esp repeated ones) need to be less robotic.
Occasionally LH/RH balance is a little off.
The ending seems too fast. You need to loosen your forearm a bit more.
Again, much potential and obvious talent. May need more professional teacher to 'tidy up' performance. Can be 9.5/10 in my books (1st class professional).
very nice .. hopefully the tens of thousands of hours of practice won't sap his ability to emote later in life. i don't get the impression that he's a pianist out of his own free will. not that his talent shouldn't be fully developed.. it's just hard to get the right balance of "life" and dedication
Bravo; brilliant and in my opinion a UNIQUE achievement for a twelve year old.
However a minor cricism, the coda (final two pages) is really too fast. Despite this he brings it off.
This tendency to play too fast is a characeristic of many of modern pianists, mainly the young who like to show off. I can play this quickly, therefore I will even if the result may do a disservice to the music.
DavidButterworth202 2 months ago
i would say far to young to play this piece, but he FUCKING NAILED IT! the coda was a bit too fast but ok...
alejandrothefader 3 months ago
The Coda...I just knew he'd blow through it. Whoa.
liszt141 6 months ago
really good performance - especially for a person of this age!
But the extrem speed from 4:05 to end was far to fast ... costs impression of music
911jp 7 months ago
The music's in him- I'm definitely going to keep an eye out for his collected work of Beethoven's 32 piano sonatas in the future ;)
LeRose525 9 months ago
Nicely done!
kuckorama 10 months ago
ah! :) i have been moved...
artfreakish 1 year ago
ah! :) i have been moved...
artfreakish 1 year ago
Where is the beginning of the third mvt?
I am also interested in where he is from.
I am also 12 years old right now (I am using my little brother's account to give this comment.) and I am also practicing it right now. He must be 15-16 years old. I want to know some techniques how to play this.
KingDollaDolla 1 year ago
@KingDollaDolla no he MUST not be, and no one cares if you re 12 or 92 man
there is no technique to play this, it's a combination of many things and at 12 years old if you speak the truth you can't master all this alone and you shouldn't try, your teacher is ok with you playing this piece?... don't be over eager to play difficult pieces
learn HOW TO play without stressing your arms, then work your way up... probably you re TOO YOUNG both physically and mentally to acomplish this without a cost
alejandrothefader 3 months ago
Where is the beginning of the third mvt?
bubblebrian3 1 year ago
the speed is fine. Let him play it with what he is comfortable with.
ibanezgrind 1 year ago
dear god, I feel sorry for this kid :( he plays great, but... he's too young...let children live...sad...
Selecter8 1 year ago
BLESS YOU (ya lill pianist)
eksxlife 1 year ago
@sannterpadieu vous auriez pu écrire dans votre langue, ceci n'est pas du francais, c'est du traduit mot pour mot.
jousse182x 1 year ago
4:05 his hands are like in fast forward.
erken 1 year ago
the ending felt a little rushed but huge performance otherwise!!
majornewb 1 year ago
Dang this kids good
mastercommanderleadr 1 year ago
Wonderfully played!!!!! Bravo!!!!!
samuelngkee 1 year ago
muy bueno..pero falta fuerza
SalvoIgnacio 1 year ago
that was awesome. i'm 20 and just started learning this piece.... if, when i'm done, my performance sounds half as good-i'll be happy. good job
chris21489 2 years ago
You're making us old 20 + year olds look bad. How does a 12 year old play something as difficult as this? You too are a child prodigy. What a genius. I wish I could play like this at 12. I would be RICH now! lol
Excellent performance. I wouldn't waste it on YouTube. Well, I guess this is how you can be discovered so... play on.
ILoveThePiano1 2 years ago
There is no denying his talent. He'll only get better (if that's possible). He reminds me a lot of Dimitris Sgouros at that age. By the way, what ever happened to Sgouros (the wunderkind with photographic memory, perfect pitch, super dexterity, and all that good stuff)?
marcalans 2 years ago
all these quarrel here about horowitz and god have nothing to do with this fabulous young pianist who plays like the most famous pianists in the world. There are few recordings of this sonata which come near this quality. Its absolutely perfect what this young man does. from the musical aspect as from the technical one.....
uhartchristian 2 years ago
@uhartchristian dude you just said 'fabulous' lol i didnt even read the rest of your comment
anonymousQ45 2 years ago
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anonymousQ45 really? you're the idiot, god is sure an asshole if he really controls everything, how much rape and murder is there? exactly, don't even try to argue, there's too much support coming from all the crimes in the world, and i already know your ignorant comeback, "god is testing my faith," what the fuck you still believe this bullshit? dont even call johnnyflannigan81 an idiot, i guess god is testing your faith right now through my fingers right? science has proved too much.
artv4nd3l4y 2 years ago
@artv4nd3l4y you couldve atleast directed this to me instead of me finding out through another comment and dont talk like youre smart you so8und like everybody else. we have free will we do wat we wanna do. i guess you think cursing gets your point across, btw what has science proved? that the earth is over a billon years old and that we are derived from apes? HA!
anonymousQ45 2 years ago
Great, This boy play it better than me. He surely it's talented.
Deimosxsz 2 years ago
He'll take it? Wow. You are the one who is an idiot. Johnny didn't even "Typed" a blasphemous statement about God, Your overreacting. If "God" was in control, why is earth becoming worst then? if he were to control our lives, why is there a word "Freedom" then? why would God take my ability if it will make my life miserable? Does that mean he didn't took the responsibilities of creating us, Humans beings? To make the story shorter, YOUR THE ONE WHO IS MAKING A BLASPHEMOUS STATEMENT ABOUT GOD
johnphine 2 years ago
when you get cocky and dont give God any credit whatsover for your accomplishments He will sometimes punish you for your arrogance and show you that you are nothing with Him. none of us are anything without God. the blasphemous statement was "God has absolutely nothing to do with this young mans talent". where do you think "gifts" come from?
the reason the world is in turmoil is because man,not God, is destroying it. the greed and selfishness destroys.
anonymousQ45 2 years ago
lol is anonymous the same god-crap-guy who said that horowitz played this badly?? hahah..
glider209 2 years ago
@glider209 yeah i said that. i dont like horowitz. i am in tune with reality i see the truth, yes i use bad words as far as God is concerned, you dont have to be a saint goody2shoes to acknowledge God.
anonymousQ45 2 years ago 2
listen...there are good performers and bad performers. It is recognised that horowitz is one of the best ever. So it's really ignorant to say that he does not interpret well - it's better to stay in silence...and if we are talking about God now, show some respect for people that have achieved things greater than you've probably ever dreamed of achieving and stop attacking everyone with medieval religious "devotion". thanks
glider209 2 years ago
God gave us the ability to speak, but he also gave us the mind to control what we are saying. So next time think before you speak
glider209 2 years ago
@glider209 as for Horowitz as an achiever i cant argue with you. we all can learn from the older and more experienced. but its not ignorant to say that i was disappointed at his piano skills. i have really heard better at the conservatory from 20 year olds, but i guess people have this seniority thing for him and im hearing everything at once. maybe my view is distorted , maybe ill get it when im older, but ignorant is not a word that has ever described me
anonymousQ45 2 years ago
now, i didn't say that YOU are ignorant, i said it is ignorance when someone criticizes Horowitz and that silence should be preferred, and i didn't say it yo offend you. To end this, no one can doubt Horowitz abilities but if someone does not like him, it's a preference - but he should be careful in expressing this, so that no misunderstandings occur
glider209 2 years ago
anonymouseQ45 - FINALLY! Someone ELSE besides me doesn't like Horowitz. He is nothing but a technician, not a musician, and last I heard him, he's not even a good technician. Bravo!
I like this performance better than Horowitz'.
PianoTHIS 2 years ago
Go fuck yourself, you would lick a shit to play like Horowitz. If you don't like Horowitz, then you obviously don't know anything about music and what a musician means.
13PUR1LA 2 years ago
this never gets old. i dont understand how he can be in complete control of this movt at 12 years old and its not just the control but also that hes not even trying hard except for the presto and everything is perfect. his shoulders are relaxed, there is no tension and i think the hardest part of this sonata is the leap between themes and variations 0:13 0:30 0:42 1:02 octave leap, 1:08 1:11 1:41 1:45 2:00 is ridiculous barely no pedal presto my GOD! he didnt follow fingering in LH but who cares
anonymousQ45 2 years ago
I agree to JohnnyFlannigan81.
johnphine 2 years ago 2
youre an idiot Flannigan81 made a blasphemous statement God controls all aspects of life but he gives humans the ability to comprehend and if you dont appreciate what He gives you He'll take it and your life will be miserable. if you dont think God is in control why dont you read some books about Bach and where his influences came from
anonymousQ45 2 years ago
i would really like to see more videos like that... haven't heard such a good Beethoven in a long time... the chopin sonata is awesome too!
MysteryWriter 2 years ago
C'est pas un enfant, c'est un tout petit homme o_O
kiwi7480 2 years ago
Ingmar is truly gifted of God. This is evidenced by his flawless technique and exhaustive mastery of his repertoire at only 12 years. Many a renowned pianist would be hard pressed to deliver like this. Ingmar must also realize that the glory belongs to God and he is to acknowledge Him in the reflection of it. Genius is not co-incidental or fortuitious, but points towards an intelliegent design. May God continue to bless him as he walks in His purpose.
concerto35 2 years ago
i agree with u on some level but shouldnt credit also go to hard work, dedication and positive influences(teachers family friends fans) around him? of course God is in control of all the factors that have made this boy an excellent prodigy, but "give the glory to God is too broad a statement" he after all has to do the work with the talent he was given so he and his
anonymousQ45 2 years ago
I agree God is in control of all factors. However, you must be aware that there are starving children in the Sudan and Angola dying by the thousands. Others are musically deficient through no fault or control of their own. Therefore, let Ingmar thank God for good teachers, innate ability and opportunities to maximize his potential. In giving God the Glory, further blessings will follow him. It will in no way detract but add to his statute.
concerto35 2 years ago
ok if thats the way you see it theres really no arguement i agree as well
anonymousQ45 2 years ago
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God has absolutely nothing to do with this young mans talent. He's obviously very intelligent and practices many hours a day, which in turn has led to his mastery of the instrument. Your notion of "God" pales in comparison to what this kids fingers are accomplishing.
JohnnyFlannigan81 2 years ago 6
Lol.. God doesn't even exist, so it's like saying: "My grandma has nothing to do with this kids capability to play the piano", when you say god has nothing to do with it
Kinjutsuu 1 year ago
i agree
anonymousQ45 2 years ago
anonymousQ45: Thanks, Yes, God gives you the innate potential to develop for His purposes. Remember what happened to the person who buried his one talent. That was an unfaithful steward and was dealt with severely!! Ingmar has maximized his potential to the limit. Althought people's great accomplishments reflect God's glory, they will be rewarded and the rewards will be commensurate with the degree they developed their gift and exposed it so that others got the benefit of it.
concerto35 2 years ago
O my God He's amazing
emorellagothicnerd 2 years ago 6
hmm.... i dont know why everybody loves this guy. i dont like his style at all :(
ZarathustraXX 2 years ago
He just amazes me that people play this piece in the average age of 20 years old, and he did it in 12.
Desmonddd2002 2 years ago 2
you are a hater
anonymousQ45 2 years ago
lo he's 12
SirArmengol 2 years ago 3
He's 12 years old for christ sakes!
mymusicvideos1991 2 years ago
so?
ZarathustraXX 2 years ago
hes about 15 or 16 now. has he played at carnegie hall yet?
anonymousQ45 2 years ago
A star is born -
Ingmar is a superb gift of God in the field of Art of Music
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Already a complet musician . What a feat for a such young soul !!!
An incredble tecnique and sensibility to interpetrate unique and very complex masterpieces . No matters what .
You singularizes them with a unique ability .
yanayrton 2 years ago
You are a true and so rare genius to bring others like Beethoven to live and shine forever inside us .
Technically in all my existence I never listened no one and nothing superior to you .
Bravo ! A new hero in musical field . You will become a legend
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I would be proud if you perform a musical composition of mine , like Awakening to life or anyone else from my musical works .
Long life and career to you and all awards possible Ingmar . YAN AYRTON
yanayrton 2 years ago
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Wow..
I wish you woulden't have sped it up!
popprincess308 2 years ago
It hasn't been sped up, it's "amateur" recording.
We aren't here to fool the people.
klodomyr 2 years ago 9
Oh sorry
as i watch it closer i can tell he is really playing..nicee!
popprincess308 2 years ago
@klodomyr i could see what "popprincess308" is getting at, it looks a it sped up near the end
nmbanana 1 year ago
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It has been sped up at the end - and tonality can be corrected through a low pass filter - you can examine and compare the way his head and upper torso move prior to, and during, the accelaration - markedly different.
karob6569 2 years ago
en ÚLTIMA PARTE SE RE NOTA QUE HAN ACELERADO EL VIDEO..mucho estudio pero carece de destreza, es un niño, igualmente... marciano (Very nice, but what about te speed Up in the last part???haha is totally clear that who put the video wanted to show it perfect, but no, he is human, a kid, we all human, even the best pianist have common mistakes, all have mistakes, and he hadn´t the power and the enought speed to arrive great in the last part... the VIDEO WAS ACCELERATED, is so OBVIOUS)
tescrachoporlojusto 2 years ago
When we accelerate a video, tonality changes. So, it isn't possible :)
Lyapazavecunhee 2 years ago
sadly is possible its called pitch shift correcting and it can be done using Melodyne u can now change the sound of every not played in a sample and melodyne knows what note is what its pretty amazing go check it out on youtube.
ProphecyStudiosUk 2 years ago
where is he now?
scratch8d 2 years ago
I just threw that out there. I know Bach never played anything by Beethoven; but you took the bait. Anyway, Gennip plays piano like a harpsichord, and does well with Scarlatti, Bach and Mozart. His Beethoven sounds like what it would if JSBach were at the keyboard.
Beethoven played serious Mozart, no record of Mozart playing anything by Beethoven.
Later musicians, Schumann, Liszt, Brahams mostly played their own stuff. Rachmaninoff and that ilk are recorded and we know what they sound like.
petie32 2 years ago
Someone send that boy to Juilliard *.*
hypermusic12 2 years ago 2
the movement of his left hand is just unreal! he looks like 8 or nine fingers on the left hand in some of the passages.
anonymousQ45 2 years ago
Musically this coda should be played rapidly; this however is played at the limit of human synapse firing. Admittedly it was written as a bravura piece for Ludwig himself who probably destroyed the Broadwood, nevertheless much is gained by restraining the speed impulse just a trifle, controlling the pedal, the metre, the anarchy inherent in a passage run loose.
No, Mozart never played this. Bach however, did and you can watch the performance by Serg van Gennip outdoors with damn near no pedal.
petie32 2 years ago
Since Bach died before Mozart was even alive, let alone Beethoven, I doubt that he played it....
Magia122 2 years ago 2
Mozart studied composition with Johann Christian Bach in London, son of the great Johann Sebastian Bach. Petie32 never said which Bach played it so you can either be wrong or right. In any case, who gives a shit ! This is a great performance!
WellHungLong 2 years ago 2
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Ingmar Lazar or how to speed up a video :D
Mambalek 3 years ago
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frenkgsi 3 years ago
Wunderkind
thethikboy 3 years ago 2
Bravo...dovrebbe avere un premio speciale.
NuovoCurioso 3 years ago
wow....god bless this child!
he is really amazing....
sospello thanks for share this video with me!
callasdimitrova 3 years ago
E' un genio!!!!!!Grazie Sospello per l'invio !
borgoantico44 3 years ago
This is quite wonderful. Youth may lack experience, but in compensation it brings conviction and commitment and a fiery energy (though Ingmar is lyrically delicate when needed). I'll stick my neck out and suggest that Beethoven would have loved this performance, just as I do.
The passage at 2:07 is not truly all that difficult. But Ingmar executes the final Presto page with superb aplomb. I would be happy to take his version to my desert island. He has my sincere thanks.
caesarjay 3 years ago 12
the right hand 8va leap is hard to keep rhythme with the left
anonymousQ45 3 years ago
I agree - that's absolutely true. But it's just confidence, isn't it? Just close your eyes and go for it. If Ingmar can do it at age 12, all older players really ought to have a shot at it. You have to think the music, not the physical leaps. (But OK, it's not quite that simple! I often struggle too. Well done, Ingmar!)
caesarjay 3 years ago 3
Is this kid famous?
teresahan1991 3 years ago
i never get tired of this performance
anonymousQ45 3 years ago
Ive practiced this movement for about a year, yet I still can't get it played evenly. Example @2:07, or whenever the left and right hand play at the same time 16th notes..This is amazing.
Kalen1457 3 years ago
omfg !
CookieMonster1893 3 years ago
This reminds me of Evgeny Kissin's 1984 Moscow concert. 12 years old, hitting every note, and bringing original, deep emotion.
And that ending was a knockout.
flicfan416 3 years ago
2:07 is crazy!!!1
anonymousQ45 3 years ago
Powerful and with fortitude! Bravo!
bobon47 3 years ago 3
I know most people would give up a leg just to play this good. :P
ChrisWatch 3 years ago
I'm one of them, lol
mohanik 3 years ago
The ending seems real the sound really doesn't change... the keys seem to be reacting normal. I don't think someone would be that low to speed up a video. most people are threatened at the end of this passionata. Most people play it slow. most play it fast and faster then others. others try to bring out more dynamics. I picture it should be played as loud as possible because it is the ending climax and should be treated as such. this is pretty extremely good. I say good work.
ChrisWatch 3 years ago
that is definitely fast forwarded at 405..no doubt.
still well done, for whats not fast forwarded
FONDLEMETEASE 3 years ago
You are crazy. If the video is sped up, then the sound cannot match the action. He actually is playing faster than your eye (via the camera) can follow. The video is real. Get over your cynicism!
maestrovoci 3 years ago
fantastic
positivemilk 3 years ago 4
Marvoulous speed and fluency~
Awesome job for a 12 yr boy!
chopinliszt2001 3 years ago
he plays piano very well.
good job
exellent
good performance
he is only 12 yo amazing
relaxanimal 3 years ago
i don't think the 4:05 to 4:40 is real because it is just impossible
purplesfiction 3 years ago
if it would have been possibl he wouldnt have been able to do it. and over, and over again
whannes 3 years ago
unbelievable towards ending(from4:05) wow i never heard like this..
acchu1979 3 years ago
breathtaking!
alicegnr 3 years ago
congratulaton!
astronomo16 3 years ago
so talented... Bravo!!
Chopin1986 3 years ago
Is the part from 4:05 to 4:40 real?
jero13595 3 years ago 2
no, watch carefully: it's sped up
supermanifold 3 years ago
Pianist at a Lazar concert asks his violinist friend- "Don't you find it hot in here?"
Friend- "Not for violinists."
legamature 3 years ago
the guy who coughed nearly ruined it. but very nice!
pianoangel12 3 years ago
Wow, j'en reste bouche bée. Bravo !
leiko0punk 3 years ago
what the f*cK?
so reeking good.
charis16filipina 3 years ago
incroyable! tout simplement incroyable
cocoloulou5 3 years ago
It's unbelievable the speed in which you performed! It's remarkable, although one has to think that speed isn't everything! There were parts were you played it too quickly. It's that gentle subtleness were you find masters. You played it amazing, you even gave me goosebumps.
enjoyana 3 years ago
Parfait.
Tu es un privilégié de pouvoir extraire ça du piano ( quand je pense au génie de Beethoven pour avoir composé ça je suis scotché )j'éspère que tu as conscience de la chance que tu as de pouvoir faire ça ( être virtuose quoi )
J'avoue être partagé entre immense admiration et immense frustration mais l'admiration l'emporte bien sûr.
Bravo.
Pocky60 3 years ago
Wow, not only was his technique amazing, he played this absolutely beautifully.
Tiki767 3 years ago 4
ｽッﾀｶｰﾄのところ早ければいいということではありません｡６０点
koreeda090 3 years ago 2
Very good! One doesn't expect to see such good performance in a kid. If he keeps working like this may become the next Arrau. Great technique. I really enjoyed it.
CinefiliaMX 3 years ago
I am a classical pianist with conservatory training from the Manhattan School of music and this is one of the most incredible performances I have seen of this movement. I am responding to you because as I was watching him, Arrau entered my mind..lol. And when I saw your comment, I just had to respond. He looked like a mini version of Arrau sitting on that stage. I would love to see him go places.
darkkerrigan 3 years ago 3
If you think that this is "one of the most" i suggest you reevaluate your carrier choice :D
PiaNISTII 3 years ago
let's see you do better at this age ;) Obviously he will grow and mature as a pianist with age, but you cannot deny that he is very good. So I'm not quite sure of your reply to me Pianist
darkkerrigan 3 years ago
before commenting again, reevaluate how to spell CarEER
Futureactuary25 3 years ago
I'm speaking to Mr. Pianist over there
Futureactuary25 3 years ago
Fantabulous!!!
lst9162 3 years ago
And how do you know that have you seen him play no rigth?? so don't tell me that mozart hasn't a great tecnique if never saw him play
Kheubaka 3 years ago
C'est formidable!
nezerserenie 3 years ago
really good! :D keep up with the good work :)
imaoldkidnow 3 years ago
Very nice. My only problem is that someone shamelessly fast forwarded the 4:05-4:40 part. The swaying at supersonic speed and the fingers magically skipping frames is way too obvious. I realize that the coda is the hardest section of the sonata but dont start cheating to show off on youtube. Post the original video.
vovik875 3 years ago
It is a live recording. I understand that is much easier for you to say when you are not able to do that it is something wrong with the others.
klodomyr 3 years ago
not true - if you look at his clothes, they move the same amount throughout the entire thing meaning the gravity is constant meaning that is just him swaying supersonically. The fingers skipping frames is because it is a very difficult, fast part - 64th notes vs. 30fps camera - you do the math
sg57 3 years ago
Does anyone know moonlight third movement? For those who lnow it, don't you think that appassionata 3rd looks like moonlight 3rd movement? I mean in the construction. There are the same parts.
guioume 3 years ago
The next Mozart..
Kheubaka 3 years ago
Great performance.
szilvavirag 3 years ago
what you think about reincarnation seeing that video?!
vesuvio4359 3 years ago
Words spoken by the unintelligent and uninformed.
morbidchid 3 years ago
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It's your opinion...respect other people's!
vesuvio4359 3 years ago
I thought about that, too. Whoever gave your posting a minus one is probably a religious zealot with a closed mind.
The proof that the last portion was NOT put into faster motion is that the pitch remains true to the notes. If you speed up the film, the pitch goes up. it does not in this video!!!
Maybe we have Vladimir Horowitz back with us again. I think VH instead of Artur Rubinstein, but after adolescence the poetry could make him another AR.
maestrovoci 3 years ago
Well, he isn't Brendel good yet...
But seriously, its like your average great professional pianist's interpretation.
hellomate639 3 years ago
And playing in the salle Cortot at the age of 12 is not bad at all...
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otterhouse 3 years ago
I want to hear him play the third movement of the Moonlight Sonata, not for the technicality, but to hear how well he interprets it.
I know that piece a lot better than this one.
hellomate639 3 years ago
Holy shit. This is the best child prodigy I've seen.
Beyond technical playing, he's very good with the beauty aspect of it. I never thought I would hear a 12 year old play like Alfred Brendel.
What a brilliant kid.
hellomate639 3 years ago
Breathtaking!
piano6861 3 years ago
Stunning!...♪
ThePianoStudio 3 years ago
normally children players have great technique but have no interpretation or emotion about their playing but this is quite an exception. well done
3hlang 3 years ago 2
agree
alleon76 3 years ago
To play a convincing performance of a difficult Beethoven Sonata at any age, is enviable and to play that, so easily is admirable..Good Luck be with this gifted pianist....
shela2 3 years ago
bravo!
bobbycat8 3 years ago 2
great amzing boy ,wonderful performance. when child,kissin and sergio tiempo play piano very well,and the boy of this video
play very well too.
Im not good at ENglish,sorry
koizumiyakumo 3 years ago
incroyable!! je viens a l'instant de voir un reportage sur ingmar, je n'ai pu rester sur ma fin, il fallait que je vois cela de mes propres yeux. J'en ai des frissons...bonne chance a toi, et bon courage pour l'artrose!! mais surtout je te jure que le son du piano n'a absolument pas gaché ta prestation! ;) merci beaucoup,
lormia
lormiagiordina 3 years ago
He play like a MIDI. Too mechanical, too pedal, lacks of interpretation. And, of course, it's absolutely too fast. I would listen him playing 2nd mvt... I imagine it :(
On other side, this mvt require hands bigger than 12yo's hands.
Please don't insult me. I recognize the talent and all (or close to all) notes are right. But if I was the teacher, I suggest him to play other pieces, for now.
cayman228 3 years ago
who do you think you are? He's only twelve years old why don't you play and let someione video you. Please don't insult you? You're asking to be insulted
bugsbugs0 3 years ago
i agree with you but at the same time with bugsbugs0 or...are those gs or qs...yeah because he is very mechanical but while his interpretation reflects his age his precision is far beyond his age
fashionista157 3 years ago
my god. fantastic in every way. and what an amazing ending the likes of very few pianist could play. incredible final tempo. watch out for this one.
organboi 4 years ago 2
This talent is refreshing. As he grows in wisdom and maturity, I hope he doesn't listen to anyone who tells him to "emote more". There are enough professionals out there who use gross facial distortions and piano bench calisthenics to express music while they play. UGH. I hope this kid works hard to keep his ego in check, too. If he can, I can easily see a career as long lasting as Rubenstein's. A++ great job.
CMDeon 4 years ago 2
Ah ! ! ! An amazing talent, far beyond his phsycial age. He is incredibly expressive WITHOUT the extraneous gesturing that characterizes so many of the 'professional' pianists of today. His accuracy is really impressive. Don't ever change, Ingmar, and I'll be your biggest fan forever.
organman52 4 years ago
I agree with your assessment, OrganMan. But I saw in another video his young face doing some gesturing. Hard to see at the angle that he is usually captured. Hopefully you won't have to drop your appreciation for this talent if he starts cutting more faces later on.
Ernesto7608 4 years ago
he is very very good!!!
Rubinstein007 4 years ago
I would really fix the part from 2:20...
they should be connected...
however, a lot of players forgot about it...
For a 12 year old, he is a excerpt... and will be a excerpt...
HKTerry2005 4 years ago
i'd say this piece sounds great played by most great pianists. besides technique, nothing much can go wrong with this piece. lazar plays it very well indeed, but i'm more curious to hear him play something more musically challenging.
infernuscrusher1989 4 years ago
like what?
fdp1do1you1tube1 4 years ago
????wtf???? you can't be serious. like what? something more musically challenging? all i ever heard is people butcher this piece. this kid is extraordinarly musical and he likely would play anything beautifully.
organboi 4 years ago
I think there are very few truly great performances of this piece. Richter has one and Solomon has another. Lazar isn't quite in their class yet, but may well be one day. Keep up the good work, Lazar!
weikko79 3 years ago
flawless techniques, but not enough passion and devotion, that will come later as he grows, hes only 12! very bright future for this young man.
jackjiezhang 4 years ago
わずか１２歳でこれだけ弾ける子がいるのですね。
キーシンの演奏を聴いたときも、神童、天才としての衝撃を受けたが、それと同様のショックを受けた
werqf 4 years ago 2
I cant believe someone so young can play this as well as some of the profesionals out there; if not better than some of them. I could, and would, listen to this recorded as music to just listen to. I cant believe hes not not famous yet! This is a really hard piece, and hes practically mastered it. The end is a bit out of control, but regardless Im amazed by this. It would take me years and years to play this as well as him.
Beethoven1111 4 years ago 2
Que dire... y a tout
De la passion, de la sincérité, de l'inventivité, la compréhension du texte, un rapport personnel à l'instrument.
On a là plus qu'un morceau bien joué. C'est une bonne interprètation d'un bon artiste
Pianoclassic 4 years ago
Bien d'accord.
Emlomor 4 years ago
amazing ! when i was in 1st grade i use to dream of playing this piece along with la campanella
ChrisWatch 4 years ago
excellent! but extremely quick at the end! It's only presto!
chris27489 4 years ago
In general needs to pay closer attention to minor (but important for someone as talented as you) details in piece.
Very beginning needs to be more subtle.
Some chords (esp repeated ones) need to be less robotic.
Occasionally LH/RH balance is a little off.
The ending seems too fast. You need to loosen your forearm a bit more.
Again, much potential and obvious talent. May need more professional teacher to 'tidy up' performance. Can be 9.5/10 in my books (1st class professional).
jsw663 4 years ago
Yeah, holy crap, it's like he got hit by a lighting bolt at the end. I can't believe his wrists didn't hurt like hell after that.
thunder1909 4 years ago
I'm 15 right now, just started perfecting this song like 2 months ago and its still pretty hard!
mariahfan444 4 years ago
Great Job kid XD, love every part of appassionata XD.
Enkil0423 4 years ago
very nice .. hopefully the tens of thousands of hours of practice won't sap his ability to emote later in life. i don't get the impression that he's a pianist out of his own free will. not that his talent shouldn't be fully developed.. it's just hard to get the right balance of "life" and dedication
asdfgftw 4 years ago
very good job if you thimk of his age! Good performance though his expression could better. But generally it was very good! Bravo!
pianoholickyp 4 years ago
I wonder who his teacher was/is..
excellent, can't believe the picture of a boy I see and the sound that comes out..
sgerianda 4 years ago
I think this is nearly impossible!Man this is like magic
Desmonddd2002 4 years ago