no its not because thers a hole kind off and pitcher when a hole is by the mound there able to have there foot come of contact a little bit hope it helped and p.s i know this bucuse i have done this alot in my 10u leage
That's illegal im a NCUSFA softball pitcher and can not hind the ball b4 u pitch it an plus her back foot was not on the rubber she picked it up wen she jumped off the mound she did not drag
this is not an illegal pitch. It is considered legal because after she hid it to get her grip she still presented the ball before starting. i pitched all through high school and did the same thing and i even asked when we were at regionals so i knew personally if it would be called or not.
Thats not illegal. im a pitcher and i used to get yelled at by other teams coaches all the time for illegal pitches. Her stride was good and her left leaves before her right so its not a crow hop.
It's weak, but they all do it. If you pause @ 9 sec you see her foot is 2+feet in front of the mound & the ball is still touching her hand. I wish that when I was playing pro ball I could leap foward 2+ feet & then release. The ball should be out of your hand before or at the same time your foot leaves the rubber. It's an easy rule. Otherwise pitchers could run up from behind the mound , hit the rubber on a crow hop and release the ball way closer than 60' 6", i would have drug my foot too !
@knack39 Two problems with what you said. 1. The pitcher's mound is 40' in softball (or 43' in college), and 2, ball out of your hand before or at the time your foot leaves the rubber is baseball. Softball is 1 continuous motion, pivot foot stays on the ground, and not two revolutions of your arm. Softball pitching is WAY different then baseball pitching. In a game I'm umpiring, that's a legal pitch.
@djshepherd915 I understand what you are saying, and I understand the rule. Trust me, I've seen worse ( as I am sure you have ). I have 2 daughters, both played. It just always frustrated me when I saw the pitcher leap forward with the ball in hand, and just because her toe is dragging it's a legal pitch. I'm not all fired up about it, just always seemed kind of dumb to me.
@MakeupxxDoll she rocks at the beggining (not illegal i'm a pitcher and i do it too) and when she's done dragging because the ball is already released, she may lift up her foot.
The people below me are sexist pigs.. Just saying..
Its illegal because she didn't automatically drag her foot off the mound.. She jumped a little bit.. I used to have the same problem.& like hers mine wasn't that noticeable.. But it could be if the umpire stares at your feet.. Lol.. Some days I got away with it.. Others I didn't.. I guess it just depends on the umpire cause it didn't look "that" bad to me. It can be fixed within a couple of days though. :)
@saMonsterx3 Rule of thumb for when I'm umpiring regarding crowhops and leaps: It is near impossible to maintain contact with the ground. If your toe is pointed down and you are at least making an honest effort to drag your foot, you're safe. If your toe is pointed up, I'll bust you every time.
International Softball Rulebook Rule 6 Section 3 on pitching:
1) May violate 6(3)(e) on strict interpretation. She takes the signal with hands apart. But, she should come to a 2 second stop before the pitch. Most umpire clinics instruct the rule is discretionary and depends if she is trying to deceive the batter. If wind-up is unchanged. I'd never call it.
2) Hops are LEGAL in softball if within 6(3)(j) leaving prior to non-pivot foot hitting the ground.
the pitch is illegal because the ball must touch of glove before she starts her wind-up (which she doesn't). this is pretty much just showing the ball. then while in your windup you have to touch your glove atleast once.
@MusicLivesInMe1000 Actually, the hand must be apart prior to stepping on the mound, and the hand must touch for a one count prior to the delivery, not the wind-up. Not one second, a one count i.e. "One".
She obviously in crow-hopping. Her foot never leaves the ground. But crow-hopping can be done as a pitcher. Know what you're talking about before you say it (:
this girl clearly drags her back foot the reason i wud think it wud be illeagl wud be her bending over she is almost fooling the batter with a forward motion
Only illegal because she hopped of the mound instead of dragging but because she touched the ball to her glove she presented it legally as far as that goes
@queenofthe209 nope - have played it back and forth, back and forth, and froze it every millisecond - she drags it. just like pretty much everyone else is saying. you can even see the dust trail the drag is making. right from the beginning - you can't drag the first part, suddenly leave the ground for a second, then complete dragging it. impossible, or you'd have to have no bones in your leg and it would wobble like jelly haha.
Yea that's an illegal pitch. Here's the steps the pitcher must take. He must be in contact with the rubber with ball either in hand, glove, or both when she takes the sign. Ok she does that. Next she must bring ball to front of her body after taking sign for roughly two seconds before delivery of pitch. She doesn't do that so technically yes it is illegal. However different leagues have different rules for different age groups. For example the league I call for says the ball cannot cross the pi
@softballfreak835 the pitch is legal cuz she dragged her foot only if her foot was off the ground it would b illegel!!!! but if u dont kno anything bout softball u wouldnt kno that!!!!! cuz i kno plenty!!! been playing for 5 years!!
She didn't present the ball before starting her pitch. The starting of the pitch is when she puts her hands together. So by holding the ball behind her back, yes it is illegal.
Illegal from the lack of "presenting the ball" you must have hands apart and in view to batter .... Most organizations require both feet to be in contact with the rubber ... HS Federations rules do not require this but it has demands and limitations on stepping backwards after the hands are brought together. Just my take ... good luck
It's not her feet idiot!!!! It's her hand before she started her pitch she put her hands behind her back and that's an illegal pitch
So I am going to like this video because finally somebody knows what an illegal pitch is and once u release the ball before the follow through ur feet ARE allowed to go off the base IDIOT!!!!!
all lady leagues have to start with both feet on rubber even mens u to...after the wind up some associations let your back foot come off but ladies have to keep both feet on until the push off...
The only reason that I think that it would be illegal is because she didn't show the ball at all. We've been told we have to present the ball before you pitch it.
@GJohnson703peacecha no, presentation means the ball and glove come together. With a minimum of 1 second. Some sancations want 3 seconds, some up to 5, but the point is you don't have to show the ball. Actually it's not ideal to show the ball because then the batter can see your grip and therefore what pitch you are pitching. Look up ASA, NSA, NFSA, etc. and you will see that "Presentation" is the ball and glove coming together to let the batter know you are beginning your motion(paraphrased).:)
yes and no its umpires disgression if the umpire calls it i dont see a problem with her feet but she does hide the ball when she starts her wind up all she needs to is present the ball a little longer.
Can't see the pitching plate, but assuming she is incontact with both feet and is within the 24" this pitch is legal in all sanctions. Approaches and steps on plate with hands apart. Takes signal on plate. Brings hands together, maintains contact with rubber during windup, drags pivot foot and keeps contact with ground during drag.
I'm a pitcher and it's legal!!!!! if u hav any questions write back and i'll give you my coach's email so you can ask her about pitching she teaches she has been teaching for 12 years im 14 she has 2 drag her foot she cannot jump off the ground she would be hopping both feet on rubber!!! one foot has 2 be on the ground!!!!! :))))!!!!!!11!!!!!
I'm a pitcher and it's legal!!!!! if u hav any questions write back and i'll give you my coach's email so you can ask her about pitching she teaches she has been teaching for 12 years im 14 she has 2 drag her foot she cannot jump off the ground she would be hopping both feet on rubber!!! one foot has 2 be on the ground!!!!! :))))!!!!!!11!!!
I'm a pitcher and it's legal!!!!! if u hav any questions write back and i'll give you my coach's email so you can ask her about pitching she teaches she has been teaching for 12 years im 14 she has 2 drag her foot she cannot jump off the ground she would be hopping both feet on rubber!!! one foot has 2 be on the ground!!!!! :))))!!!!!!11!!
I'm a pitcher and it's legal!!!!! if u hav any questions write back and i'll give you my coach's email so you can ask her about pitching she teaches she has been teaching for 12 years im 14 she has 2 drag her foot she cannot jump off the ground she would be hopping both feet on rubber!!! one foot has 2 be on the ground!!!!! :))))!
I'm a pitcher and it's legal!!!!! if u hav any questions write back and i'll give you my coach's email so you can ask her about pitching she teaches she has been teaching for 12 years im 14 she has 2 drag her foot she cannot jump off the ground she would be hopping both feet on rubber!!! one foot has 2 be on the ground!!!!! :))))
If the question is, weather or not hiding the ball is illegal, it is. The pitcher must "present" the ball for about 2 seconds. I get called on it alot for ASA and college.
Depends on the rules. ASA, USSSA NSA both feet must start in contact. PIAA, NFHS they do not. So really the question is what rules are you playing by?
@AmandaMarie951 it looks legal, but some umpires might call it illegal because u have to have the ball at your side before u pitch. u cant have it behind your back. i got called because i did what she did.
I didn't see very much leave or crow hop and most likely wont get called for it unless it gives the pitcher an unfair advantage. Usually as long as there an attempt or an effort to drag the leap wont get called. The crow hop is an added step and will get called. The ball has to presented to the batter usually in throwing hand by her side while receiving sign.
I didnt see very much leave or crow hop and most likely wont get called for it unless it gives the pitcher an unfair advantage. Usually as long as there an attempt or an effort to drag the leap wont get called. The crow hop is an added step and will get called. The ball has to presented to the batter usually in throwing hand by her side while receiving sign.
it sort of looks legal but its actually not because when you go in to the leap and pause the video both feet are off the ground and thats why they called it a illegal pitch and i know this because it happened to me quite a few times when i pitch
In most divisions it is illegal to have the ball behind your back before a pitch it must start in the glove or to the pitchers side. But she didn't crow hop so her feet were legal.
yea. you have to have both feet touching the plate. and you can push off. thats what i do. i have been pitching for 5 years. i start with my right foot half way off the pate in front. and my left foot half way off the back. i dunno if that makes sense. hah
Her presentation is fine - that's not what was illegal about it - both feet have to start touch the mound for associations like NSA and ASA. In high school as well as USSSA you can take a step backwards. Not sure that her back foot wasn't touching the mound to begind with. Bad angle to make a correct judgement!
as long as she presents the ball before she throws it then it is a legall pitch..if she showed the ball then put it in her glove or behind her back then she is fine but in this case it is illegal because she didnt present the ball first
as long as she presents the ball before she throws it then it is a legall pitch..if she showed the ball then put it in her glove or behind her back then she is fine but in this case it is illegal because she didnt present the ball first
I have been an umpire for both high school fast pitch softball, as well as mens and womens league for 15 years, her pitch was legal minus the present the ball part for 1 second, both her feet were on the rubber when she started and she dragged her back foot. No crow hop what so ever. This is a legal pitch!
Yes pitch is illegal. She didn't present the ball. You have to have the ball in front of you with hands together for at least a second but not more than 10 seconds. My daughter pitches in high school and travel ball for the last 8 years. So I know a little about pitching...
Wow your fucking wierd record some random chick and put her on youtube asking if her pitch is legal your teem probaly got raped anyways so your on your peroid and and have to complain
Question about illegal pitching...Does anyone know the answer? Do you have to start with both feet on the mound? I have someone telling me No the backfoot is allowed right behind the rubber for you to push off. Not sure if I should take his advice.
Question about illegal pitching...Does anyone know the answer? Do you have to start with both feet on the mound? I have someone telling me No the backfoot is allowed right behind the rubber for you to push off. Not sure if I should take his advice.
no its not because thers a hole kind off and pitcher when a hole is by the mound there able to have there foot come of contact a little bit hope it helped and p.s i know this bucuse i have done this alot in my 10u leage
sims2fanaticfreak 2 weeks ago
it's legal... she didn't bring her hands apart more than once, and at least one foot was on the rubber at all times.
MoreThanRandomMusic 1 month ago
Nope not illegal I know a girl who slaps the the ground and jumps up and pitches.
llkCRAZY 1 month ago
it anit illegal
CatherineHinkle 2 months ago
This pitch is not illegal her foot stays in contact with the ground the whole time get off her back!!!
catchez8 2 months ago
definitely not illegal. as long as one foots on the ground throughout the motion
mwoods2195 2 months ago
Completely legal
SongsOfSirens 2 months ago
I pitch n nope not illegal good one :)
CrazyDazzlinAshleigh 2 months ago
It's not illegal I'm a pitcher and I do the same thing
SuperBELIEBER98 2 months ago
That's illegal im a NCUSFA softball pitcher and can not hind the ball b4 u pitch it an plus her back foot was not on the rubber she picked it up wen she jumped off the mound she did not drag
lizzabug1999 2 months ago
she can't hide the ball behind her back so that is illegal
cheeseballsrock11 3 months ago
@cheeseballsrock11 Actually you can i play state and aussie and a lot of pitchers do
HayleyWestenraFan95 2 months ago
there was nothing rong with that pitch maybe she should have had a better finish but that the only thing that i saw otherwise NICE PITCH GURL
brookieroxursox33 3 months ago
this is not an illegal pitch. It is considered legal because after she hid it to get her grip she still presented the ball before starting. i pitched all through high school and did the same thing and i even asked when we were at regionals so i knew personally if it would be called or not.
TheSoftballchick02 3 months ago
this is not an illegal pitch.
rdpinkerman12 3 months ago
It's an illegal pitch, she's hiding the ball during her move.
DesastrousAV 3 months ago
The only illegal thing is that she hid theball when on the mound..
isabellewilliams1 3 months ago
What happened now?
wolfstar143 3 months ago
Yes, because she is not showing the ball.
ekcmichagan 3 months ago
She isn't pausing long enough so the umpire can see the ball in her hand before she pitched, everything else was correct.
ThoroughbredPeep 3 months ago
More like softball is illegal.. i kid i kid!
Jake41ify 3 months ago
When I pitch softball, I throw like a girl....
bikermann42 3 months ago
ha softball what a joke.
cartmanrulez32 4 months ago
@cartmanrulez32 i doubt that you even know how to hold a softball GET A LIFE!!!!
gcmorris14 4 months ago
@gcmorris14 dont need to. i hated softball ever since elementary school we had to use it instead of a real baseball.
cartmanrulez32 4 months ago
@cartmanrulez32 plz dont hate softball just cuz you cant play it. :P
gcmorris14 4 months ago
yes its illegal.. due to the fact she is a woman.
RGLucky13 4 months ago
Thats not illegal. im a pitcher and i used to get yelled at by other teams coaches all the time for illegal pitches. Her stride was good and her left leaves before her right so its not a crow hop.
SarahMadisonSmith 4 months ago
Illegal pitch
KeeleyQ13 4 months ago
shes hot.. thats all that matters
scottrocksACDC 4 months ago
The stride was correct , but the illegal part is how the ball is behind her back.
BURROSCHEERXOHH 5 months ago
Yes, ball is behind back.
12stepout 5 months ago
her foot dragged, its not an illegal pitch
italiabella98 5 months ago
Itz not a illeeal pitch itz legal her foot dragged
Softballgurly0625 5 months ago
It's weak, but they all do it. If you pause @ 9 sec you see her foot is 2+feet in front of the mound & the ball is still touching her hand. I wish that when I was playing pro ball I could leap foward 2+ feet & then release. The ball should be out of your hand before or at the same time your foot leaves the rubber. It's an easy rule. Otherwise pitchers could run up from behind the mound , hit the rubber on a crow hop and release the ball way closer than 60' 6", i would have drug my foot too !
knack39 5 months ago
@knack39 Two problems with what you said. 1. The pitcher's mound is 40' in softball (or 43' in college), and 2, ball out of your hand before or at the time your foot leaves the rubber is baseball. Softball is 1 continuous motion, pivot foot stays on the ground, and not two revolutions of your arm. Softball pitching is WAY different then baseball pitching. In a game I'm umpiring, that's a legal pitch.
djshepherd915 5 months ago
@djshepherd915 I understand what you are saying, and I understand the rule. Trust me, I've seen worse ( as I am sure you have ). I have 2 daughters, both played. It just always frustrated me when I saw the pitcher leap forward with the ball in hand, and just because her toe is dragging it's a legal pitch. I'm not all fired up about it, just always seemed kind of dumb to me.
knack39 5 months ago 2
yep legal as cocain
Southrengal 5 months ago
nope. her back foot was on the ground the whole time
ToriMichelle95 5 months ago
nope
goleafs4 5 months ago
depends on what rules u are playing under
bbchsboilers25 5 months ago
no
foxergirl 6 months ago
nope
gmherps13 6 months ago
u have to present the ball before you pitch she's hidding it its illegal
meg101an 6 months ago
it is not an illegal pitch . her stride was correct , and her foot dragged the whole way .
rawrimmareindeer 6 months ago 12
@rawrimmareindeer ...and the ball reached the glove!
Squidny11T 5 months ago
@rawrimmareindeer no it wasnt, if you can see her drag foot was picked up and then replanted. therefore it's an illegal pitch,
MakeupxxDoll 3 months ago
@MakeupxxDoll she rocks at the beggining (not illegal i'm a pitcher and i do it too) and when she's done dragging because the ball is already released, she may lift up her foot.
rawrimmareindeer 2 months ago
The people below me are sexist pigs.. Just saying..
Its illegal because she didn't automatically drag her foot off the mound.. She jumped a little bit.. I used to have the same problem.& like hers mine wasn't that noticeable.. But it could be if the umpire stares at your feet.. Lol.. Some days I got away with it.. Others I didn't.. I guess it just depends on the umpire cause it didn't look "that" bad to me. It can be fixed within a couple of days though. :)
saMonsterx3 6 months ago
@saMonsterx3 thankyou someone agrees with em..ive been playing competive softball for years now and finally im not the only one who understands
queenofthe209 6 months ago
@saMonsterx3 Rule of thumb for when I'm umpiring regarding crowhops and leaps: It is near impossible to maintain contact with the ground. If your toe is pointed down and you are at least making an honest effort to drag your foot, you're safe. If your toe is pointed up, I'll bust you every time.
djshepherd915 5 months ago
Its illegal because shes not caressing the balls correctly.
natyride 6 months ago
its illegal cause women cant throw softballs in the kitchen
lordperryofcky 6 months ago
it wuznt.
VIOLINSTER27 6 months ago
it aint illegal or her feet wasnt anyways but i dont think her pitch was illegal it looked good to me.
elbiscountry 6 months ago
its illeagal
nat843 6 months ago
its not illigal if shes in the motion sill,,, ever watch college softball or jennie finch? ya shud....
Stevienickss 6 months ago
@Stevienickss still*
Stevienickss 6 months ago
This is illegal, she should be in the kitchen.
myles889 6 months ago
her foot stayed on the ground the whole time....? she didnt hop? soo its not illegal...
briannabanana648 6 months ago
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why would that be illegal?
katieanne2011 6 months ago
Look at the rules.
International Softball Rulebook Rule 6 Section 3 on pitching:
1) May violate 6(3)(e) on strict interpretation. She takes the signal with hands apart. But, she should come to a 2 second stop before the pitch. Most umpire clinics instruct the rule is discretionary and depends if she is trying to deceive the batter. If wind-up is unchanged. I'd never call it.
2) Hops are LEGAL in softball if within 6(3)(j) leaving prior to non-pivot foot hitting the ground.
ihaveseoul 6 months ago
no
ilianaandathenatv 6 months ago
It's illegal, she did not present the ball and her dragging foot didn't stay on the groud until the ball was out of her hand.
PMBBall21 6 months ago
It's sooo a illegal pitch n I've only pitched 1illegal pitch
amandacerda24 6 months ago
the pitch is illegal because the ball must touch of glove before she starts her wind-up (which she doesn't). this is pretty much just showing the ball. then while in your windup you have to touch your glove atleast once.
MusicLivesInMe1000 6 months ago
@MusicLivesInMe1000 Actually, the hand must be apart prior to stepping on the mound, and the hand must touch for a one count prior to the delivery, not the wind-up. Not one second, a one count i.e. "One".
djshepherd915 5 months ago
nope.
natta.
she dragges her foot and picks it up after she relases.
her bending over is getting the "spring" in her leg to drive foward off the mound.
iloveyoursmileloser 6 months ago
She obviously in crow-hopping. Her foot never leaves the ground. But crow-hopping can be done as a pitcher. Know what you're talking about before you say it (:
jehssihhkuhhh 6 months ago
@queenofthe209 um....watch carefully....u can obviously see her foot dragging and crowhopping is something u do in the outfield not pitching:)
softballgrl8995 6 months ago
@queenofthe209 um....watch carefully....u ca obviously see her foot dragging and crowhopping is something u do in the outfield not pitching:)
softballgrl8995 6 months ago
this girl clearly drags her back foot the reason i wud think it wud be illeagl wud be her bending over she is almost fooling the batter with a forward motion
rodeofan36 6 months ago
Only illegal because she hopped of the mound instead of dragging but because she touched the ball to her glove she presented it legally as far as that goes
sheridanmarie14 6 months ago
legal
sugarmypaint1 6 months ago
its illegal cause she is crowhoping..which is jumping off of the mound instead of pushing off and dragging her foot..
queenofthe209 6 months ago
@queenofthe209 she dragged her foot, it didn't leave the ground!! totally legal
Hoopylasss11 6 months ago
@Hoopylasss11 no she didnt..if you pause it between 8 and 9..u can see that both feet r off the ground..
queenofthe209 6 months ago
@queenofthe209 nope - have played it back and forth, back and forth, and froze it every millisecond - she drags it. just like pretty much everyone else is saying. you can even see the dust trail the drag is making. right from the beginning - you can't drag the first part, suddenly leave the ground for a second, then complete dragging it. impossible, or you'd have to have no bones in your leg and it would wobble like jelly haha.
Hoopylasss11 6 months ago
100% legal
layner3123 6 months ago
you don;t have to show it, you have to touch your glove.
delaneelovesyou1234 6 months ago
your supposed to show the ball before the pitch, (:
Brooklynn2016 6 months ago
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she lifted her foot, so ya
oreolola3 7 months ago
In most leagues the move where she puts the ball behind her back would make the pitch illegal. Depends on the league.
mindajane 7 months ago
Pitchers hip more than 3 times and hers crosses 4 times so it would be illegal here
enzopro 7 months ago
Yea that's an illegal pitch. Here's the steps the pitcher must take. He must be in contact with the rubber with ball either in hand, glove, or both when she takes the sign. Ok she does that. Next she must bring ball to front of her body after taking sign for roughly two seconds before delivery of pitch. She doesn't do that so technically yes it is illegal. However different leagues have different rules for different age groups. For example the league I call for says the ball cannot cross the pi
enzopro 7 months ago
@softballfreak835 the pitch is legal cuz she dragged her foot only if her foot was off the ground it would b illegel!!!! but if u dont kno anything bout softball u wouldnt kno that!!!!! cuz i kno plenty!!! been playing for 5 years!!
trueebluue555 7 months ago
@trueebluue555 they probably ment the ball cause its behind her back
isabel91210 6 months ago
@isabel91210 : i dont think so cuz you can do that wen you get on the plate the ball has to at least out of your glove
trueebluue555 6 months ago
She cant hide the ball
ahoffman143 7 months ago
that was no way an illegal pitch
bellgirl17 7 months ago
Legal. She kept both feet on the rubber, she presented the ball, looks good to me
lexicakes229 7 months ago
if she presents the ball and sets it in the glove one time, it's legal. but she never presented it.
amandaaaaa15 7 months ago
She didn't present the ball before starting her pitch. The starting of the pitch is when she puts her hands together. So by holding the ball behind her back, yes it is illegal.
blueeyedgirl0823 7 months ago
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kingsofleon101 7 months ago
That was not illegal because she stayed in the "pitchers box".
Milkywaymainiac79 7 months ago
it wasss illegaal , because you can't jump that far, it makes the ball come faster to the batter ,
AlyssaHeape 7 months ago
@AlyssaHeape that is the whole point of taking a large step. u can jump as far as u want
RiRirocks14 7 months ago
if you dont show show the ball then its illegal so yes,illegal pitch.
KaelynFaye 7 months ago
She did not present the ball is the only problem I see, the rest looks good.
bastmswas 7 months ago
not an illegal pitch
TyleeLuvzDaniel 7 months ago
theres nothing wrong with the pitch, she has her form perfect and shes not hopping so its not illegal
aaronthemexican1 7 months ago
no
UnKnOwNfAiL 7 months ago
nothing wrong with the pitch. in womens softball that is how you are supposed to pitch
12canucks 7 months ago
I'm a pitcher too and you need to present the ball. Everything else is ok!
trinitybloodfan101 7 months ago
I don't see anything wrong with it, and I'm a pitcher.
TwistedRainbowSock 7 months ago
THIS IS A TOTALLY LEGAL PITCH! I have been pitching for 10 years and i dont see anything wrong with that at all!
littlemisssingsong43 7 months ago
FOR EVERYONE! In ASA, you don't have to "present" the ball as in other leagues.
hannahfan007 7 months ago
If both feet are on the ruber then its not illegal.
slowmoe98emery 7 months ago
Illegal from the lack of "presenting the ball" you must have hands apart and in view to batter .... Most organizations require both feet to be in contact with the rubber ... HS Federations rules do not require this but it has demands and limitations on stepping backwards after the hands are brought together. Just my take ... good luck
ahstc1973 7 months ago
It's not her feet idiot!!!! It's her hand before she started her pitch she put her hands behind her back and that's an illegal pitch
So I am going to like this video because finally somebody knows what an illegal pitch is and once u release the ball before the follow through ur feet ARE allowed to go off the base IDIOT!!!!!
AwesomeCayla551 7 months ago
all lady leagues have to start with both feet on rubber even mens u to...after the wind up some associations let your back foot come off but ladies have to keep both feet on until the push off...
goldenglove25 7 months ago
No, her back foot stays on the ground it looks like.
scbaldwin13 7 months ago
What's supposed to be illegal about that? She actually has very good mechanics...I guess you just needed the views huh?
jeterlover03 7 months ago
@jeterlover03 it is illegal she didnt present the ball where the batter can see it before she started her pitch. and that is and illegal pitch
LILPANTHERGRL 7 months ago
Is there a point to this 13 second video?????
cruiseguyhawaii 7 months ago
i say its not illigual
saboljoe 7 months ago
The only reason that I think that it would be illegal is because she didn't show the ball at all. We've been told we have to present the ball before you pitch it.
GJohnson703peacecha 7 months ago
@GJohnson703peacecha no, presentation means the ball and glove come together. With a minimum of 1 second. Some sancations want 3 seconds, some up to 5, but the point is you don't have to show the ball. Actually it's not ideal to show the ball because then the batter can see your grip and therefore what pitch you are pitching. Look up ASA, NSA, NFSA, etc. and you will see that "Presentation" is the ball and glove coming together to let the batter know you are beginning your motion(paraphrased).:)
jeterlover03 7 months ago
@GJohnson703peacecha finally someone realizes it
LILPANTHERGRL 7 months ago
yes and no its umpires disgression if the umpire calls it i dont see a problem with her feet but she does hide the ball when she starts her wind up all she needs to is present the ball a little longer.
Carlson09Softball 8 months ago
The hands are fine but she needs to drag her foot.
MichaelaScott2017 8 months ago
Can't see the pitching plate, but assuming she is incontact with both feet and is within the 24" this pitch is legal in all sanctions. Approaches and steps on plate with hands apart. Takes signal on plate. Brings hands together, maintains contact with rubber during windup, drags pivot foot and keeps contact with ground during drag.
E127208ramz 8 months ago
100% legal
x0toats0x 8 months ago
It's legal... I'm a pitcher
orangejellybeans1 8 months ago
Legal.. according to ISF rules.. it's legal..
GoDsGiFT730 8 months ago
Unless she is outside the 24 inch pitcher plate, I don't see anything wrong.
buddaman200522 8 months ago
hey guys im a catcher, and im pretty sure this pitch is fine...well in my league i think it's fine.
isabellaisavlogger 8 months ago
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I'm a pitcher and it's legal!!!!! if u hav any questions write back and i'll give you my coach's email so you can ask her about pitching she teaches she has been teaching for 12 years im 14 she has 2 drag her foot she cannot jump off the ground she would be hopping both feet on rubber!!! one foot has 2 be on the ground!!!!! :))))!!!!!!11!!!!!
rjszhenson0809 8 months ago
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I'm a pitcher and it's legal!!!!! if u hav any questions write back and i'll give you my coach's email so you can ask her about pitching she teaches she has been teaching for 12 years im 14 she has 2 drag her foot she cannot jump off the ground she would be hopping both feet on rubber!!! one foot has 2 be on the ground!!!!! :))))!!!!!!11!!!
rjszhenson0809 8 months ago
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I'm a pitcher and it's legal!!!!! if u hav any questions write back and i'll give you my coach's email so you can ask her about pitching she teaches she has been teaching for 12 years im 14 she has 2 drag her foot she cannot jump off the ground she would be hopping both feet on rubber!!! one foot has 2 be on the ground!!!!! :))))!!!!!!11!!
rjszhenson0809 8 months ago
I'm a pitcher and it's legal!!!!! if u hav any questions write back and i'll give you my coach's email so you can ask her about pitching she teaches she has been teaching for 12 years im 14 she has 2 drag her foot she cannot jump off the ground she would be hopping both feet on rubber!!! one foot has 2 be on the ground!!!!! :))))!
rjszhenson0809 8 months ago
I'm a pitcher and it's legal!!!!! if u hav any questions write back and i'll give you my coach's email so you can ask her about pitching she teaches she has been teaching for 12 years im 14 she has 2 drag her foot she cannot jump off the ground she would be hopping both feet on rubber!!! one foot has 2 be on the ground!!!!! :))))
rjszhenson0809 8 months ago
It is a legal pitch
kokknokr101 8 months ago
not an illegal pitch... i'm a pitcher. clearly both hands are seperated, she's fine.
Bpsoftball9 8 months ago
ILLEGAL !! The ball is suppose to be shown to the batter then pitched!
MszPnaiichiiq 8 months ago
If the question is, weather or not hiding the ball is illegal, it is. The pitcher must "present" the ball for about 2 seconds. I get called on it alot for ASA and college.
hmhs2009 8 months ago
this pitchhh is legall. theirss nothing wrongg with it. ive seen worsee.
yupthe1nonlyme 8 months ago
its allowed
crapcrap204 8 months ago
Depends on the rules. ASA, USSSA NSA both feet must start in contact. PIAA, NFHS they do not. So really the question is what rules are you playing by?
nazarethguy 8 months ago
That is a perfectly legal pitch. what are you seeing?
AmandaMarie951 8 months ago
@AmandaMarie951 it looks legal, but some umpires might call it illegal because u have to have the ball at your side before u pitch. u cant have it behind your back. i got called because i did what she did.
razerheartbeat12 8 months ago
Well it doesn't matter considering she hit it :P
baseballboy1545 8 months ago
I didn't see very much leave or crow hop and most likely wont get called for it unless it gives the pitcher an unfair advantage. Usually as long as there an attempt or an effort to drag the leap wont get called. The crow hop is an added step and will get called. The ball has to presented to the batter usually in throwing hand by her side while receiving sign.
LocustGrovestud 8 months ago
I didnt see very much leave or crow hop and most likely wont get called for it unless it gives the pitcher an unfair advantage. Usually as long as there an attempt or an effort to drag the leap wont get called. The crow hop is an added step and will get called. The ball has to presented to the batter usually in throwing hand by her side while receiving sign.
LocustGrovestud 8 months ago
You also have to present the ball!
LocustGrovestud 8 months ago
it sort of looks legal but its actually not because when you go in to the leap and pause the video both feet are off the ground and thats why they called it a illegal pitch and i know this because it happened to me quite a few times when i pitch
ASUsoftballGIRL239 8 months ago
In little league softball, the 2011 rule books states (8.01 d) ...the non-pivot foot must be on or behind the pitcher's plate.
livnzack 9 months ago
legal
leeloosoftballchick 9 months ago
how is this in any way illegal?
4hellorocketships 9 months ago
In most divisions it is illegal to have the ball behind your back before a pitch it must start in the glove or to the pitchers side. But she didn't crow hop so her feet were legal.
allstar002595 9 months ago
yea she is crow hopping or understood ad crow steppin
perty96 9 months ago
Yes because she isn't showing the ball it's behind her back/:
12stepout 9 months ago
its legal because she kept her drag foot down, but for it to be illegal she had to pick it up.
oxoEMMIoxo 9 months ago
@oxoEMMIoxo its illegal because the ball is behind her back
isabel91210 9 months ago
@isabel91210 ohh i thought that was legal....oops
oxoEMMIoxo 9 months ago
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this pitcher is fine i play softball and that is what a pitcher did before so dont worry
haleydobson10 9 months ago
this pitcher is fine i play softball and that is what a pitcher did before so dont orry
haleydobson10 9 months ago
not an illgal pitch
softball4life46 9 months ago
There is absolutely NOTHING illegal about this pitch. I've been pitching for 10 years. It looked good to me.
11krae 9 months ago
yea. you have to have both feet touching the plate. and you can push off. thats what i do. i have been pitching for 5 years. i start with my right foot half way off the pate in front. and my left foot half way off the back. i dunno if that makes sense. hah
samantharhoades 9 months ago
yea its perfect
Bieliber0402 9 months ago
the pitch is legeal because her foot dosent leave the mound untill the ball leaves her hand. ; ]
karamason27 9 months ago
Her presentation is fine - that's not what was illegal about it - both feet have to start touch the mound for associations like NSA and ASA. In high school as well as USSSA you can take a step backwards. Not sure that her back foot wasn't touching the mound to begind with. Bad angle to make a correct judgement!
jennhuesken 10 months ago
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as long as she presents the ball before she throws it then it is a legall pitch..if she showed the ball then put it in her glove or behind her back then she is fine but in this case it is illegal because she didnt present the ball first
Lexib2100 10 months ago
as long as she presents the ball before she throws it then it is a legall pitch..if she showed the ball then put it in her glove or behind her back then she is fine but in this case it is illegal because she didnt present the ball first
Lexib2100 10 months ago
no that is illegal because she didn't show the ball before she pitched it.
mslolalovesyou1 10 months ago
@mslolalovesyou1 : yes she did. it's showing it when it comes back around, obviously before entering her glove.
11krae 9 months ago
I have been an umpire for both high school fast pitch softball, as well as mens and womens league for 15 years, her pitch was legal minus the present the ball part for 1 second, both her feet were on the rubber when she started and she dragged her back foot. No crow hop what so ever. This is a legal pitch!
papasaan 10 months ago
No, it is not an illegal pitch, her foot stays in contact with the rubber the whole time she rocks back.
jorchey70 10 months ago
You have to present the ball in the glove when you step on the mound and she didn't
butterflywithaB 10 months ago
Yes pitch is illegal. She didn't present the ball. You have to have the ball in front of you with hands together for at least a second but not more than 10 seconds. My daughter pitches in high school and travel ball for the last 8 years. So I know a little about pitching...
Ralphyralph141 10 months ago
yeaaa it was
cbw24793gurls 10 months ago
perfectly fine. completely legal.
ilovegaga143 10 months ago
in my softball league you have to have both feet touching the mound.
krklol 10 months ago
Not some random chick, she played for me. This is just a coffee table clip to generate awareness of fastpitch softball. 614,435 views and counting.
GRuf1f 11 months ago
If both feet were in contact with the rubber and she doesn't crow hop it's legal everywhere! No question about it.
AdlerDesign 10 months ago
Wow your fucking wierd record some random chick and put her on youtube asking if her pitch is legal your teem probaly got raped anyways so your on your peroid and and have to complain
gametocken 11 months ago
No it's not illegal. The front foot needs to be on the rubber and the back can be behind itt.
SierraDavus523 11 months ago
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Question about illegal pitching...Does anyone know the answer? Do you have to start with both feet on the mound? I have someone telling me No the backfoot is allowed right behind the rubber for you to push off. Not sure if I should take his advice.
caitlynandjenna 11 months ago
Question about illegal pitching...Does anyone know the answer? Do you have to start with both feet on the mound? I have someone telling me No the backfoot is allowed right behind the rubber for you to push off. Not sure if I should take his advice.
caitlynandjenna 11 months ago