Knuckles in Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 & Knuckles are modified versions of Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 accordingly.
These versions with Knuckles can be accessed by using a Sonic and Knuckles cartridge with a Sonic 2 or Sonic 3 cartridge or through emulation on a compilation game.
Knuckles can not be normally accessed Sonic 2 due to not being programmed into the game and is disabled in Sonic 3 because the game was split into two parts during development (the second part being Sonic & Knuckles).
lol they always port these games but this collection on ds is really awesome I was playing sonic 2 at a doctors appointment xD They really should make a collection with the saturn games and lesser known ones also knuckles chaotix should be there and sonic adventure 1 and 2 a 3d game collection would pwn Im sure a ps3 or when they decide to do it... a ps4 could do it seeing as how much data GT5 packed in
Wow....the camera issues are REALLY noticeable after you defeat the boss. I'm still on the fence about this game. I'm kinda in a love/hate relationship with it. I like the fact that my favorite Sonic games are portable on one cartridge but I hate all the little problems that are just annoying.
@Sega8891 Yeah, the camera is pretty annoying, but you get used to it after a while. It only really messes with gameplay in some of the Sonic 2 bosses. I beat all the games on this cartridge, and it didn't really bother me that much, but your milage may vary.
If you're worried about framerate, I should mention that the recording method I used cut the framerate some, so it is SLIGHTLY better on an actual DS, especially in other levels. If you've got a DSi, it actually runs smooth as silk.
@norulzdotpt Yeah. It's a lot harder when the game is going really choppy. The special stages in particular are really bad in this, at least if you're not playing on a DSi (the whole collection is smoother on a DSi).
@norulzdotpt Sort of, but it's not really usable. This version is actually just an emulator with some slightly edited ROMs. Debug mode is still present on the rom, but the way it's set up, there's no way to access or use it.
@yamipegasus i just saw a video of debug mode on sonic classic collection, so it -is- accessible, only kind of a pain in the ass to get it done, but possible
@MilesDude32 Nope, it's sound files. As I understand it, they don't emulate the sound because that would strain the system more, and it's laggy enough already.
This video doesn't show it, but speed boots don't just speed up the sound in this version, but make it higher pitched, as a result of streaming audio instead of emulating it.
While the concept of being able to play the only good Sonic games in existence on my DS is appealing, I'd rather just pirate it than shell out cash. Why? Well, I bought all the original Genesis versions when they were current, AND I bought the PS2 Sonic Collection.
So as much as I love these games, I'm not buying them for a third time. >.>
Well I'm glad they released this for the kids who don't know the original games. But I wish they'd help you get more into the time era these games were released. I wish the game also included a Genesis-sonic history video or something, as well as trailers for old Sonic commercials.
@yamipegasus hey i want to now something i was playing s3&k and i saw and the game instructions and it said press y,b,a twice to hav tails airfly u and i didnt know wat i hav to do to hav tails fly me.... please some1 help me i just wana know
@Rexeljet ohh wait do u think i am talis oh no im playing as sonic and talis i just wana know how to fly it doesnt work plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz helppppppp me i beg u
@gamefreak561 Well, I don't own Sonic classic collection or a DS; the lack of a second controller would imply you can't control tails on a DS but I don't know for sure. On a regular Mega drive you just control Tails with the second controller.
@gamefreak561 In the Genesis/Mega Drive version the AI or second controller can control Tails, but in the DS version the only way to control him at all is to play as Tails. Sorry, that's the only way you're gonna fly.
@yamipegasus i dont know if u saw but if u play as sonic and tails on the last one it says press a b y to hav tails airlift sonic out of danger and a picture of tails holding sonic so now do u get what i mean
this has been bugging me since i was a kid when your against knuckles why is he wearing yellow socks and when u r playing as knuckles his socks are green ?
Sort of. You can't pause with the start button, only by pausing the emulation with the pause button on the touch screen. So once you activate it and get the ring sound, you've gotta run out of lives to get back to the title screen. Then you can has debug mode.
Knuckles in Sonic 3 = Sonic 3 & Knuckles!
AeizzatToha 2 months ago
HOW DO YOU UNLOCK KNUCKLES IN SONIC 2 AND 3 PLEASE TELL ME
999giratina 5 months ago
@999giratina
Knuckles in Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 & Knuckles are modified versions of Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 accordingly.
These versions with Knuckles can be accessed by using a Sonic and Knuckles cartridge with a Sonic 2 or Sonic 3 cartridge or through emulation on a compilation game.
Knuckles can not be normally accessed Sonic 2 due to not being programmed into the game and is disabled in Sonic 3 because the game was split into two parts during development (the second part being Sonic & Knuckles).
luigibarqs 4 months ago
lol they always port these games but this collection on ds is really awesome I was playing sonic 2 at a doctors appointment xD They really should make a collection with the saturn games and lesser known ones also knuckles chaotix should be there and sonic adventure 1 and 2 a 3d game collection would pwn Im sure a ps3 or when they decide to do it... a ps4 could do it seeing as how much data GT5 packed in
sonicadx 6 months ago
Wow....the camera issues are REALLY noticeable after you defeat the boss. I'm still on the fence about this game. I'm kinda in a love/hate relationship with it. I like the fact that my favorite Sonic games are portable on one cartridge but I hate all the little problems that are just annoying.
Sega8891 7 months ago
@Sega8891 Yeah, the camera is pretty annoying, but you get used to it after a while. It only really messes with gameplay in some of the Sonic 2 bosses. I beat all the games on this cartridge, and it didn't really bother me that much, but your milage may vary.
If you're worried about framerate, I should mention that the recording method I used cut the framerate some, so it is SLIGHTLY better on an actual DS, especially in other levels. If you've got a DSi, it actually runs smooth as silk.
yamipegasus 7 months ago
haha you failed the first special stage XD
norulzdotpt 9 months ago
@norulzdotpt Yeah. It's a lot harder when the game is going really choppy. The special stages in particular are really bad in this, at least if you're not playing on a DSi (the whole collection is smoother on a DSi).
yamipegasus 9 months ago
@yamipegasus is there debug mode on this port?
norulzdotpt 9 months ago
@norulzdotpt Sort of, but it's not really usable. This version is actually just an emulator with some slightly edited ROMs. Debug mode is still present on the rom, but the way it's set up, there's no way to access or use it.
yamipegasus 9 months ago
@yamipegasus i just saw a video of debug mode on sonic classic collection, so it -is- accessible, only kind of a pain in the ass to get it done, but possible
norulzdotpt 8 months ago
@norulzdotpt well maybe he wasn't trying.
Fishydog123 2 months ago
Why it dont uses the DS midi?
1300l 10 months ago
...Is the sound even emulated or is the DS just playing low-quality sound files when things happen?
If so, then there has not been a single official compilation game to my knowledge that actually attempts to sound like the Genesis did.
MilesDude32 1 year ago
@MilesDude32 Nope, it's sound files. As I understand it, they don't emulate the sound because that would strain the system more, and it's laggy enough already.
This video doesn't show it, but speed boots don't just speed up the sound in this version, but make it higher pitched, as a result of streaming audio instead of emulating it.
yamipegasus 1 year ago
Knuckles is awesome but it seems like they don't use him for any sonic games no more.
SpartanForgeWorld300 1 year ago
While the concept of being able to play the only good Sonic games in existence on my DS is appealing, I'd rather just pirate it than shell out cash. Why? Well, I bought all the original Genesis versions when they were current, AND I bought the PS2 Sonic Collection.
So as much as I love these games, I'm not buying them for a third time. >.>
outlier1985 1 year ago
Well I'm glad they released this for the kids who don't know the original games. But I wish they'd help you get more into the time era these games were released. I wish the game also included a Genesis-sonic history video or something, as well as trailers for old Sonic commercials.
dogeymon83 1 year ago
Are Knuckles in Sonic 2 and 3 already unlocked or do you have to unlock them yourself?
kaleem93 1 year ago
@kaleem93 They're already unlocked.
yamipegasus 1 year ago
@yamipegasus hey i want to now something i was playing s3&k and i saw and the game instructions and it said press y,b,a twice to hav tails airfly u and i didnt know wat i hav to do to hav tails fly me.... please some1 help me i just wana know
gamefreak561 1 year ago
@gamefreak561 Just press the jump button to jump, then jump while you're in the air to have tails fly.
Rexeljet 1 year ago
@Rexeljet ok ill t if i cant do it can some1 make a vid to teach me how well thats only if i cant do alright
gamefreak561 1 year ago
@Rexeljet im doing that but it is not working
gamefreak561 1 year ago
@Rexeljet ohh wait do u think i am talis oh no im playing as sonic and talis i just wana know how to fly it doesnt work plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz helppppppp me i beg u
gamefreak561 1 year ago
@gamefreak561 Well, I don't own Sonic classic collection or a DS; the lack of a second controller would imply you can't control tails on a DS but I don't know for sure. On a regular Mega drive you just control Tails with the second controller.
Rexeljet 1 year ago
@Rexeljet
use the download game with the second ds i will work
ssj4goku1223 1 year ago
@gamefreak561 In the Genesis/Mega Drive version the AI or second controller can control Tails, but in the DS version the only way to control him at all is to play as Tails. Sorry, that's the only way you're gonna fly.
yamipegasus 1 year ago
@yamipegasus i dont know if u saw but if u play as sonic and tails on the last one it says press a b y to hav tails airlift sonic out of danger and a picture of tails holding sonic so now do u get what i mean
gamefreak561 1 year ago
Can some one help me with debug and level select cheats. I enter the one for music test and then die. but it never shows up.
LuigiIs4Real25 1 year ago
Nice gameplay! I'm going to love playing the genesis Sonic games on my DS.
I can't wait to get Sonic Classic Collection
SonicandInuyasha 1 year ago
Is there the full "Blue Sphere" game?
damicroquete2 1 year ago
@damicroquete2 If you mean the one from locking on Sonic & Knuckles and Sonic 1, then no, there is not.
yamipegasus 1 year ago
@yamipegasus - Yeah, it was the S&K + Sonic 1 Lock On. Too bad :( I'll guess that I'll have to stick to my Gamecube if I want to play this :(
damicroquete2 1 year ago
Get The Super Emeralds!
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skinyme 1 year ago
this has been bugging me since i was a kid when your against knuckles why is he wearing yellow socks and when u r playing as knuckles his socks are green ?
coggins87 1 year ago
Most likely due to palette glitches otherwise
ToonLinkBrawler94 1 year ago
Or laziness
ToonLinkBrawler94 1 year ago
What happens when Knuckles gets all the Chaos Emeralds?
0070jamesblonde 1 year ago
he can transform into super knuckles!
MrTiagosuper 1 year ago
Does debug mode/level select work in this game?
DarkLinkSkywalker 1 year ago
Sort of. You can't pause with the start button, only by pausing the emulation with the pause button on the touch screen. So once you activate it and get the ring sound, you've gotta run out of lives to get back to the title screen. Then you can has debug mode.
yamipegasus 1 year ago
Oh shit, the pixels are stretched!
Lumpytoast 2 years ago
Looks decent considering its running this well on a DS, gotta admit its more effort than the shitty sonic 1 port on the GBA.
azurestormgod 2 years ago
The Sonic 1 GBA was a remake. Or a Enhanced Port. But it sucked, except for the soundtrack.
damicroquete2 1 year ago
Im quite bummed about there being no multi player. Oh well as long as there are no major glitches and bugs, This game should be cool.
Jaksin7038 2 years ago 5
YAY! Sonic 3 and Knuckles is in the game!!!
gamefreakDX 2 years ago 6