You got to undestand slav-macedonians you got nothing to do with greek mac.
You came to the area at 600 ad at the rise of greek byzantine empire...even your alphabet was made by greeks (cyrillus) this is why it is called cyrillic...you may have lived in macedonia under the ottoman empire but that does not make you macedonians
This guy from your ministry admitted that you got nothing to do with greek macedonians
Greece was really the land of the Atamans and where the Parthenon now stands once stood a fortress built by the Atamans. There are photographs to prove that a fortress existed where the Parthenon now stands. The Parthenon was built in the late 1400's. Photographs from the 1800's show a remaining tower of the Ataman fortress that once stood where the Parthenon now stands. Greece's history is completely fake and the Vatican is behind it.
even the king Konstantine I of Greece admitted that when the Greek armies occupied the Macedonian territory and freed from the Turks the majority of the popultaion there were NOT Greeks!
i supposed that you was there, you heard that by your ears?!"
What do you think is more likely? The whole world is lying to you. Or... some political leaders of a young country are using this topic to gain support for there own political aspirations.
Greeks alone in the balkan- they say death to bulgaria they say death to albania and they say death to macedonia, aledgly they are friend with serbia who was also popularized by slavs (croatia, serbia, macedonia, bosnia and herzegnovina...) which means these are the same nations so who is left to stay behind greece?
And yet the Genetic profile of the Greeks has consistently been shown from 1995 to the present to be closest to that of Southern Italians (The descendants of the ancient Greeks) followed by that of Tuscans(Descendants of the Romans) followed by Spaniards and finally Serbs
The slavs were turkish,nazi and communist collaborators who committed crimes against the Greek people and stole their lands. Macedonia is a Greek word. Any non-Greeks using the word Macedonia is a THIEF!!! like the slavs on this video. Read History
Hahahah... I gave you a lot of arguments, what did you give me? Noting, beside claiming that we are Slavs who have occupied the Greek territories without proofs! Get lost fascist!
@PeceFromHeraklea-You have given me your personal opinions and reasons as to why you are stealing something that does not belong to you slavic dog excrement that defies historical evidence and fact. Show me where do the slavs have anything to do with Alexander the Great thief? Soon you will all pay for what you have done to our people nazi collaborators. If you are so brave then tell me where you live here in Greece and making propoganda?
Mauro Orbini, in his book "The Kingdom of the Slavs" (1601), wrote about the presence of the "Slavs" during the period of Alexander III, even as a part of his army. In this book, Orbini published a document, which represents a Charter, that was sent to the "Slavs" by Alexander III as a gesture of gratitude for taking part in Alexander's battles. The Alexander's biographer Quintus Curtius Rufus also wrote that the Veneti (Slavs) were a part of the Macedonian army.
@PeceFromHeraklea-You expect me to believe a SLAV!!! History books show you are lying as usual. You expect me to believe someone like you who calls themselves by a Greek word and yet claim they are not Greek? You are PATHETIC!!!
man you're more stupid than i've expected not only you're shitting whole day on YT you're proving that you are an idiot too so why should "we" bother with an shithole like you who does not belive in our history -.-
and the best prove that you don't read is my videos ;) you just bullshit in the comments forgoting to watch the video and understand the truth, now you can realize why i don't post historical facts anymore....
Enjoy in the video (hoping you will understand it.... well kinda.)
Read History. Dont trust the lies on this site.Macedonia is a Greek word. Only Greeks can use a Greek word. Anyone calling themselves Macedonian and claim they are not Greek is not Macedonian but slavs who came into the area 1000 years after Alexander the Great and the Macedonians. Read History
@petris101 we all know what a piece of shit are you we know very good what "gaygreece" is doing... now shut the fuck up or like you said you like my banana in your mothers ass!
@anger96 hahaha bulgarian shit.. even the ancient macedonian coin says: ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ which means king in greek... alexander said: "I thank Gods, because I was born Greek". i saw that on History Channel, if u dont believe me search it on the intenet. monkeydonia... do u know what the 16 lines in macedonian flag mean??? YOU DONT. they are 14... 12 symbolize the greek gods and 4 the elements of nature: air, land, fire, water and the real macedonian flag is BLUE. go to hell serbian-bulgarian shit.
@hgoumenosefraim ya, that all you have to say? phahahaha, get real... come in the real life then we can talk 'till then go blow your head and jump from a bridge, belive me you'll make the world a better place for living -.-
@hgoumenosefraim i know greece, i know greeks they are shitty bitches who are strong only behind their monitors, i know your whole shitty country... ;) but the problem is that i don't give a FUCK!
@Macedon51-the slavs are not Greek and yet claim they are Macedonian which is a Greek word are hiding the fact they were turkish,nazi and communist collaborators who committed crimes against the Greeks. The Greeks made them pay for their treachery. The slavs stole Greek lands as they came 1000 years after the Ancient macedonians into the area. Read History. They are slavs not Macedonians.
My parents are Macedonians, descendants from Pelagonia, as my grandparents. My great grandparents were also Macedonians, descendants from Pelagonia, as their parents and grandparents. And I am Macedonian, born in Heraclea Lyncestis, an ancient Macedonian city that has been built by Philip II of Macedon. My family has been living on a Pelagonian land for centuries behind. So, even if I want I can not be anything but Macedonian because all my ancestors were Macedonians!
@PeceFromHeraklea-So you are Greek? as Macedonia is a Greek word. You are a slav who has nothing to do with Macedonia, Only Greeks can call themselves by a Greek word. Your ancestors invaded and settled in the area 1000 years after the Ancient Macedonians. Your language is slavic not Macedonian. The Ancient Macedonians spoke a Greek dialect. You are not foolong anyone with your propoganda.
You want to say that my ancestors, ordinary people from behind the Carpathians (no remains of their buildings, no data of war with someone previously), simply appeared from nowhere in the 6th century and assimilated half Europe including Macedonia and the ancient Macedonians (great fighters with culture and tradition).
How they inhabited on Byzantine territory, and there is no mention of any fighting between them and the Byzantines? Did Byzantines sat them with crossed arms and said them "Welcome Slavs"?
@PeceFromHeraklea-Its historically a fact you slavs came into the area 1000 years after the Macedonians and that the Greeks rounded you and expelled you a number of times. Western historical records only show the general view. After all these supposedly educated anglo-saxons gave the word Macedonia, despite knowing Greece has a state with the same name and knowing history, to the slavs who are not Greek. That is why they are still barbarians.Greek records are more detailed
@PeceFromHeraklea-We did not invade you. You invaded Greek lands. You raped, murdered and plundered and now you have the nerve to accuse the Greeks of crimes? You slavs committed these crimes. You live in Greece, but claim you are not Greek but Macedonian which is a Greek word-How contradictory and silly reasoning is this?
@PeceFromHeraklea-Who cares what this Pulevski said. He is a slav as his name suggets. He is only making propoganda. A slav will not adopt a Greek word. He is stealing it.Only Greeks can use a Greek name. Vardarska is a slavic word as was the area called before 1948.You are nothing but thiefs
Darius, Persian king, means "worker" (areios); Xerxes, another Persian king, means "warrior" (erxies); Habrocomes, which means soft in Greek (habro); Harmarnithres, which means "chariot" in Greek (harma); Harpagus, which means "plunderer" in Greek (harpage) and so on.
So, if only the Greeks can use Greek words, than why all these Persians use Greek words also???
@PeceFromHeraklea -You are being sneaky again.Every language adopts words. But to name themselves as a national identity using a foreign word is not the same. To express their Greekness the Ancient macedonians adopted a Greek word. You as slavs have adopted a Greek word and yet you are not Greek. Answer me this-Why if you claim you are not Greek do you call yourself by the Greek word Macedonia? Just answer and no more silly excuses.
As Krste Petkov Misirkovs said: "It's normal for the younger countries to be baptized by older, just like the people... The older people give the name to the younger." Macedonia is relatively younger country than Hellas, and everyone knows that the Hellenic culture was the most dominant in the ancient times, so I don't see any reason why Macedonia shouldn't have a Greek name...
@PeceFromHeraklea-Again your reasoning is not honest. NO one will believe you that non-Greeks will adopt a Greek name and especially keep it for centuries. The Greeks would not have named an area with a Greek name unless it was populated by Greeks. It has never happened ever in recorded History.You are making propoganda without evidence to show for it.
PS-We have Greeks living in former Greek colonies in Southern Italy. Turkey, Russia who still claim they are Greeks after centuries.
Do you know from where derived the name of Persia? It derived from the Greek word "Perseus" (even the Persians agree with that) which means "destroyer", "conqueror"...
In about 1600 BC. Perseus the legendary founder of Mycenae and of the Perseid dynasty there, was the first of the mythic heroes of Greek mythology whose exploits in defeating various archaic monsters provided the founding myths of the Twelve Olympians.
@PeceFromHeraklea0-Persian was never Greek. It is not stealing Greek History by adopting a Greek word. Macedonia was Greek and that has nothing to do with you because you are a slav.
@PeceFromHeraklea-Propoganda slav is what you do best. Historically, Macedonia was always Greek and NEVER!!! slavic and it is recorded as such. The ancient ruins and artifacts have Greek lettering on them not slavic.
Persia was never Greek so they are not stealing anything. They adopted a Greek word which makes them honourabel. Macedonia was Greek and you slavs claim it was never Greek so you are stealing. Hitler was right to consider slavs sub-human. Pity he lost
@anger96-Gay is your mother and father slavic DOG!!! excrement. Comments like yours are fit for thiefs like all you slavs are. Only illiterate peasant slavs like you steal. Get it thief?.Pity Hitler lost the war. He saw your real potential as slaves derived from slav-Ha Ha Ha
@anger96-Gay is your mother and father. The Greek soldier has proven himself historically as the best overall. The slavs? Only slavs fight like pussies and weak fighters just like gays and it iss historically proven. Actions speak louder than words
@PeceFromHeraklea-What? no argument based on historical fact anymore.? And the turkish, nazi and communist collaborators are you slavs as you showed it many times with your crimes against humanity against the Greeks.
It writes that they were about 3 million, maybe more, and that they passed the river Danube with straws. So how is it possible? How could three million of people to lived in swamps behind the Carpathians? And the rivers at that time were much larger than now, so how they succeed to pass the river Danube with straws? Who was their king?
@Macedon51 FYROM people are not Macedonian - they were used first by Bulgaria and then by the Communists to try to control the Greek North Aegean
FYROM A COMMUNIST DREAM: Communist leader Dimitrov' Secret Diary, "we talk about Macedonian Nation which consists of Bulgarians, Serbs and Greeks? Is it possible for Macedonia to exist as an independent state or in the frame of the confederation of Southern Slavs, regardless of the ETHNOGRAPHICAL CONCOCTION that it is?"
@Macedon51 Hahahahahahahahah funny monkeydonian...If you want to call your country makedonia you might as well surrender it to Greece cause this is where the real Makedonia belongs to
After the Balkan war 1913 when Greece took over 51% of Macedonian territory with the peace treaty of Bucharest, the name Macedonian and the Macedonian language were prohibited and the Macedonians were referred to as Bulgarians, Slavophone Greeks or simply "endopes" (natives). At the same time, all the Macedonians were forced to
change their names and surnames, the latter having to end in -is, -os or -poulos.
Do you really think this is possible, god dam you are a moron, "change their names and surnames" pfftt, you are slavs your languague is slavic and so is your culture
the African countries like: Benin, Ivory Coast, Burkina Faso, Gabon, Equatorial Guinea, Congo, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Madagascar, Mali, Niger, Rwanda, Senegal, Togo and Chad speak French language and have French names, religion, customs etc.
Can we say they are French people?
The same is for us, Macedonians, the Slavs destroyed our real language, names, customs, renamed the cities names, rivers etc.
We are not ethnically Greek, but Macedonians. The ancient Macedonians were a distinct nation separate from their neighbors. My family has been living on ancient Macedonian land more than 1500 years, so I have a full right to consider myself as Macedonian!
@PeceFromHeraklea. Macedeonia is a Greek word. If you are not Greek then why use a Greek word THIEF!!! Only Greeks have the right to call themselves by a Greek word. You are a slav and thief and therefore deserve a slavic name
@PeceFromHeraklea-The Ancient Macedonian artifacts, ruins and temples are written in Greek.Would they use Greek words while at the same time claim they were not Greek? Its stupid just like your reasoning. The word Macedonia is Greek. The language you speak is slavic not Greek. Therefore you cannot call yourself Macedonian. Only Greeks can
@PeceFromHeraklea >> Krste Misirkov, 1903, "our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"
Krste Misirkov - expressed the ethnicity of the Slavs living in "Macedonia" including his own ethnicity, calling them pure Bulgarians.
FYROM language - West Bulgarian Slavic
FYROM PRESIDENT KIRO GLIGOROV: "WE ARE SLAVS - THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN US AND ALEXANDER THE GREAT .. WE CAME HERE IN THE 6TH CENTURY AFTER CHRIST"
So? I am waiting... Find me some Greek from 19th century who considered himself as Macedonian, because I can easy find a true Macedonian from that time confirming his Macedonian identity:
"I am not Bulgarian, nor Greek, nor Serb, but I am a pure Macedonian as were Philip and Alexander of Macedon and Aristotle Philosopher."
@PeceFromHeraklea So,if i say that i do not consider myself greek but german means that im german?
And for your information Alexander,Phillip and Aristotle were Makedonians and Greeks...Just like Socratis and Pericles were Athenians and greeks...Cause Athens and Makedonia were nothing more than greek city states...And if you check wikipedia(independant source) you will find that for example aristotle was a GREEK philoshopher...It does not say SLAV
Just like I expected before... Typical Greek reaction, running away from the truth with speaking about something else... I knew you will never find a Greek from 19th century who considered himself as Macedonian. By the way, what was Georgi Pulevski? An alien from Mars?
Hahaha... Poor Greek excuse! If he was Bulgarian, than why he didn't say that he is a pure Bulgarian? Why he said: "I am a pure Macedonian as were Phillip and Alexander? Maybe he was under drunk or maybe under drogs? xD
"We, the Macedonians, are not Serbs nor Bulgarians, but simply Macedonians. The Macedonian people exist independent of the Bulgarian and Serb people. We sympathise with both, Bulgarians and Serbs; whoever will help us achieve our freedom, to them we will be thankful, but let the Bulgarians and Serbs not forget, that Macedonia is only for the Macedonians."
YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG, ON 1912-3 GREECE TOOK FROM OTTOMAN TURKS 98% OF MACEDONIAN TERRITORY,AS WELL ON 1924 MOST OF THE BULGARIAN POPULATION LEFT FROM MACEDONIA TO BULGARIA,ACCORDING TO POLITIS-KALVOV PROTOCOL.
Yes, but the European researches, even the king Konstantine I of Greece admitted that when the Greek armies occupied the Macedonian territory and freed from the Turks the majority of the popultaion there were NOT Greeks!
even the king Konstantine I of Greece admitted that when the Greek armies occupied the Macedonian territory and freed from the Turks the majority of the popultaion there were NOT Greeks!
even the king Konstantine I of Greece admitted that when the Greek armies occupied the Macedonian territory and freed from the Turks the majority of the popultaion there were NOT Greeks!
i supposed that you was there, you heard that by your ears?!"
You got to undestand slav-macedonians you got nothing to do with greek mac.
You came to the area at 600 ad at the rise of greek byzantine empire...even your alphabet was made by greeks (cyrillus) this is why it is called cyrillic...you may have lived in macedonia under the ottoman empire but that does not make you macedonians
This guy from your ministry admitted that you got nothing to do with greek macedonians
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Greece was really the land of the Atamans and where the Parthenon now stands once stood a fortress built by the Atamans. There are photographs to prove that a fortress existed where the Parthenon now stands. The Parthenon was built in the late 1400's. Photographs from the 1800's show a remaining tower of the Ataman fortress that once stood where the Parthenon now stands. Greece's history is completely fake and the Vatican is behind it.
SilenceDoGood25 3 months ago
YOU STOLE HISTORY FROM GREECE MONKEYS!!!!!!
hgoumenosefraim 5 months ago
you dont know greeks friend of nazi bulgarian shit !!!!
hgoumenosefraim 5 months ago
anger96 @ you little BULGARIAN WHORE, so you think that you can do your cheap propaganda by deleting comments and blocking people....you are so NAIVE
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"@PeceFromHeraklea
European researches? named them
even the king Konstantine I of Greece admitted that when the Greek armies occupied the Macedonian territory and freed from the Turks the majority of the popultaion there were NOT Greeks!
i supposed that you was there, you heard that by your ears?!"
lolskiification1 1 year ago
u are idiot
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What do you think is more likely? The whole world is lying to you. Or... some political leaders of a young country are using this topic to gain support for there own political aspirations.
trisnna9801 1 year ago
Greeks alone in the balkan- they say death to bulgaria they say death to albania and they say death to macedonia, aledgly they are friend with serbia who was also popularized by slavs (croatia, serbia, macedonia, bosnia and herzegnovina...) which means these are the same nations so who is left to stay behind greece?
mkd12345678 1 year ago
what it means in your small country the name Alexander or the name of his father Philip???
kaisar14 1 year ago
Присмял се хърбел на щърбел. Една фалшива държава казва на друга фалшива държавава, че е фалшива. Смях!
spooky1000 1 year ago
MACEDONIA IS GREEK / HELLENIC
BACK OFF SLAVS
THIS VIDEO IS MOST PROPAGANDA EVER
DEATH TO BULGARIA
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
And yet the Genetic profile of the Greeks has consistently been shown from 1995 to the present to be closest to that of Southern Italians (The descendants of the ancient Greeks) followed by that of Tuscans(Descendants of the Romans) followed by Spaniards and finally Serbs
HaggisMacfee 1 year ago
The slavs were turkish,nazi and communist collaborators who committed crimes against the Greek people and stole their lands. Macedonia is a Greek word. Any non-Greeks using the word Macedonia is a THIEF!!! like the slavs on this video. Read History
5hitter 1 year ago
@5hitter
Hahahah... I gave you a lot of arguments, what did you give me? Noting, beside claiming that we are Slavs who have occupied the Greek territories without proofs! Get lost fascist!
PeceFromHeraklea 1 year ago
@PeceFromHeraklea-You have given me your personal opinions and reasons as to why you are stealing something that does not belong to you slavic dog excrement that defies historical evidence and fact. Show me where do the slavs have anything to do with Alexander the Great thief? Soon you will all pay for what you have done to our people nazi collaborators. If you are so brave then tell me where you live here in Greece and making propoganda?
5hitter 1 year ago
@5hitter
Mauro Orbini, in his book "The Kingdom of the Slavs" (1601), wrote about the presence of the "Slavs" during the period of Alexander III, even as a part of his army. In this book, Orbini published a document, which represents a Charter, that was sent to the "Slavs" by Alexander III as a gesture of gratitude for taking part in Alexander's battles. The Alexander's biographer Quintus Curtius Rufus also wrote that the Veneti (Slavs) were a part of the Macedonian army.
PeceFromHeraklea 1 year ago
@PeceFromHeraklea Amfipolis Pella Olynthos Dion = hellenik cities
Perseas Makednos Aleksandros Aristotelis filippos Perdikas Parmenias, Ifestion , Ptolemaios, Kleopatra = Hellenik names
Do you know where was the Slavs before 800 B.C ? On the trees somewhere in Russia .Kiro Gligorof said that you are not Makedonians
grammenitsas 1 year ago
@grammenitsas
I am not Slav! Remember that!!!
PeceFromHeraklea 1 year ago
@PeceFromHeraklea τῶν δὲ περὶ τὸν Ἑλληνικὸν τόπον ὁ μὲν Ἀχελῷος ἐκ Πίν-
δου, καὶ ὁ Ἴναχος ἐντεῦθεν, ὁ δὲ Στρυμὼν καὶ Νέσσος καὶ
ὁ Ἕβρος ἅπαντες τρεῖς ὄντες ἐκ τοῦ Σκόμβρου· πολλὰ δὲ
ῥεύματα καὶ ἐκ τῆς Ῥοδόπης ἐστίν. ὁμοίως δὲ καὶ τοὺς.......
Αριστοτέλη; Μετεωρολογικά
Here Aristoteles describes in Meteorologika the Land of Hellas spread from Evros Nestos and Strimonas to South In Sterea Ellada
grammenitsas 1 year ago
@PeceFromHeraklea-You expect me to believe a SLAV!!! History books show you are lying as usual. You expect me to believe someone like you who calls themselves by a Greek word and yet claim they are not Greek? You are PATHETIC!!!
5hitter 1 year ago
man you're more stupid than i've expected not only you're shitting whole day on YT you're proving that you are an idiot too so why should "we" bother with an shithole like you who does not belive in our history -.-
anger96 1 year ago
@anger96-More stupid than non-Greek slavs calling themselves by a Greek word and yet claim they are not Greek?
5hitter 1 year ago
and the best prove that you don't read is my videos ;) you just bullshit in the comments forgoting to watch the video and understand the truth, now you can realize why i don't post historical facts anymore....
Enjoy in the video (hoping you will understand it.... well kinda.)
anger96 1 year ago
Read History. Dont trust the lies on this site.Macedonia is a Greek word. Only Greeks can use a Greek word. Anyone calling themselves Macedonian and claim they are not Greek is not Macedonian but slavs who came into the area 1000 years after Alexander the Great and the Macedonians. Read History
5hitter 1 year ago
Hahaha you stole our history dambasss!
moneristov 1 year ago
we all know what fyrom is,a country that keeps all the scum from the other slavic nations,you have no culture,no history,and you want to steal ours.
ΝΤΡΟΠΗ ΣΑΣ ΑΧΡΗΣΤΟΙ.
petris101 1 year ago 4
@petris101 we all know what a piece of shit are you we know very good what "gaygreece" is doing... now shut the fuck up or like you said you like my banana in your mothers ass!
anger96 1 year ago
@anger96 hahaha bulgarian shit.. even the ancient macedonian coin says: ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ which means king in greek... alexander said: "I thank Gods, because I was born Greek". i saw that on History Channel, if u dont believe me search it on the intenet. monkeydonia... do u know what the 16 lines in macedonian flag mean??? YOU DONT. they are 14... 12 symbolize the greek gods and 4 the elements of nature: air, land, fire, water and the real macedonian flag is BLUE. go to hell serbian-bulgarian shit.
GiannicTheGod 7 months ago 2
@anger96 YOU ARE A FAKE COUNTRY MONKEYDONIA YOU ARE BULGARIAN SHIT!!!!
hgoumenosefraim 6 months ago
@hgoumenosefraim ya, that all you have to say? phahahaha, get real... come in the real life then we can talk 'till then go blow your head and jump from a bridge, belive me you'll make the world a better place for living -.-
anger96 6 months ago
@anger96 FUCK YOU MAN YOU DONT KNOW GREECE AND SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!
hgoumenosefraim 6 months ago
@hgoumenosefraim i know greece, i know greeks they are shitty bitches who are strong only behind their monitors, i know your whole shitty country... ;) but the problem is that i don't give a FUCK!
anger96 5 months ago
@anger96 if IF FYROMONKEYDONIA GET LOST FROM THE MAP THE WORLD WILL BE BETTER !!!!
hgoumenosefraim 5 months ago
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hgoumenosefraim 6 months ago
BRAVO!!!! The truth always finds a way!
Elena88eli 1 year ago
UR ALL BULGAIRNS U DUMB FUCKS eat sum COCK N SHUT THE FUK UP WIT UR PROPAGANDA
HektikHellenik 2 years ago
my propaganda? loL wtf? and that was your "prove"? hahahha comeon get a life bitch
anger96 2 years ago
Thanks for exposing the truth about this 19h century creation "Greece" which stole 50% of Macedona and onduced a genocide agains the Macedonians.
MACEDONIA TO THE MACEDONANS!
historyofmacedonia . org
Macedon51 2 years ago
@Macedon51-the slavs are not Greek and yet claim they are Macedonian which is a Greek word are hiding the fact they were turkish,nazi and communist collaborators who committed crimes against the Greeks. The Greeks made them pay for their treachery. The slavs stole Greek lands as they came 1000 years after the Ancient macedonians into the area. Read History. They are slavs not Macedonians.
5hitter 1 year ago
@5hitter
My parents are Macedonians, descendants from Pelagonia, as my grandparents. My great grandparents were also Macedonians, descendants from Pelagonia, as their parents and grandparents. And I am Macedonian, born in Heraclea Lyncestis, an ancient Macedonian city that has been built by Philip II of Macedon. My family has been living on a Pelagonian land for centuries behind. So, even if I want I can not be anything but Macedonian because all my ancestors were Macedonians!
PeceFromHeraklea 1 year ago
@PeceFromHeraklea-So you are Greek? as Macedonia is a Greek word. You are a slav who has nothing to do with Macedonia, Only Greeks can call themselves by a Greek word. Your ancestors invaded and settled in the area 1000 years after the Ancient Macedonians. Your language is slavic not Macedonian. The Ancient Macedonians spoke a Greek dialect. You are not foolong anyone with your propoganda.
5hitter 1 year ago
@5hitter
Greek or not, I am Macedonian!
You want to say that my ancestors, ordinary people from behind the Carpathians (no remains of their buildings, no data of war with someone previously), simply appeared from nowhere in the 6th century and assimilated half Europe including Macedonia and the ancient Macedonians (great fighters with culture and tradition).
PeceFromHeraklea 1 year ago
@PeceFromHeraklea-You will never be Macedonian. Only Greeks can use a Greek word
5hitter 1 year ago
@5hitter
How they inhabited on Byzantine territory, and there is no mention of any fighting between them and the Byzantines? Did Byzantines sat them with crossed arms and said them "Welcome Slavs"?
PeceFromHeraklea 1 year ago
@PeceFromHeraklea-Its historically a fact you slavs came into the area 1000 years after the Macedonians and that the Greeks rounded you and expelled you a number of times. Western historical records only show the general view. After all these supposedly educated anglo-saxons gave the word Macedonia, despite knowing Greece has a state with the same name and knowing history, to the slavs who are not Greek. That is why they are still barbarians.Greek records are more detailed
5hitter 1 year ago
@PeceFromHeraklea-We did not invade you. You invaded Greek lands. You raped, murdered and plundered and now you have the nerve to accuse the Greeks of crimes? You slavs committed these crimes. You live in Greece, but claim you are not Greek but Macedonian which is a Greek word-How contradictory and silly reasoning is this?
5hitter 1 year ago
@5hitter
We did not invade nobody! The Slavs invaded us... They destroyed our real ancient Macedonian language, customs, names etc.
PeceFromHeraklea 1 year ago
@PeceFromHeraklea-If you are not slav and not Greek then what are you? because if you are not Greek you cannot use the Greek word Macedonia
5hitter 1 year ago
@5hitter
I am what Georgi Pulevski was;
"I am not Bulgarian, nor Greek, nor Serb, but I am a pure Macedonian as were Philip and Alexander of Macedon and Aristotle Philosopher."
- Georgi Pulevski (1838-1895)
PeceFromHeraklea 1 year ago
@PeceFromHeraklea-Who cares what this Pulevski said. He is a slav as his name suggets. He is only making propoganda. A slav will not adopt a Greek word. He is stealing it.Only Greeks can use a Greek name. Vardarska is a slavic word as was the area called before 1948.You are nothing but thiefs
5hitter 1 year ago
@5hitter
Darius, Persian king, means "worker" (areios); Xerxes, another Persian king, means "warrior" (erxies); Habrocomes, which means soft in Greek (habro); Harmarnithres, which means "chariot" in Greek (harma); Harpagus, which means "plunderer" in Greek (harpage) and so on.
So, if only the Greeks can use Greek words, than why all these Persians use Greek words also???
PeceFromHeraklea 1 year ago
@PeceFromHeraklea -You are being sneaky again.Every language adopts words. But to name themselves as a national identity using a foreign word is not the same. To express their Greekness the Ancient macedonians adopted a Greek word. You as slavs have adopted a Greek word and yet you are not Greek. Answer me this-Why if you claim you are not Greek do you call yourself by the Greek word Macedonia? Just answer and no more silly excuses.
5hitter 1 year ago
@5hitter
As Krste Petkov Misirkovs said: "It's normal for the younger countries to be baptized by older, just like the people... The older people give the name to the younger." Macedonia is relatively younger country than Hellas, and everyone knows that the Hellenic culture was the most dominant in the ancient times, so I don't see any reason why Macedonia shouldn't have a Greek name...
PeceFromHeraklea 1 year ago
@PeceFromHeraklea-Again your reasoning is not honest. NO one will believe you that non-Greeks will adopt a Greek name and especially keep it for centuries. The Greeks would not have named an area with a Greek name unless it was populated by Greeks. It has never happened ever in recorded History.You are making propoganda without evidence to show for it.
PS-We have Greeks living in former Greek colonies in Southern Italy. Turkey, Russia who still claim they are Greeks after centuries.
5hitter 1 year ago
@5hitter
Do you know from where derived the name of Persia? It derived from the Greek word "Perseus" (even the Persians agree with that) which means "destroyer", "conqueror"...
In about 1600 BC. Perseus the legendary founder of Mycenae and of the Perseid dynasty there, was the first of the mythic heroes of Greek mythology whose exploits in defeating various archaic monsters provided the founding myths of the Twelve Olympians.
So, were the Persians Greeks also?
PeceFromHeraklea 1 year ago
@PeceFromHeraklea0-Persian was never Greek. It is not stealing Greek History by adopting a Greek word. Macedonia was Greek and that has nothing to do with you because you are a slav.
5hitter 1 year ago
@5hitter
Just like Persia, Macedonia is not Greek because of adopting a Greek word!
PeceFromHeraklea 1 year ago
@PeceFromHeraklea-Propoganda slav is what you do best. Historically, Macedonia was always Greek and NEVER!!! slavic and it is recorded as such. The ancient ruins and artifacts have Greek lettering on them not slavic.
Persia was never Greek so they are not stealing anything. They adopted a Greek word which makes them honourabel. Macedonia was Greek and you slavs claim it was never Greek so you are stealing. Hitler was right to consider slavs sub-human. Pity he lost
5hitter 1 year ago
@5hitter ghahgahhahah what an jack ass listen gay if you don't anything else to say but NAZI then go fuck yourself in your empty brain....
Got that? i don't need to give you a fucking fact because you wouldn't read it or understand either so what's the use? go fuck yourself somewhere else
anger96 1 year ago
@anger96-Gay is your mother and father slavic DOG!!! excrement. Comments like yours are fit for thiefs like all you slavs are. Only illiterate peasant slavs like you steal. Get it thief?.Pity Hitler lost the war. He saw your real potential as slaves derived from slav-Ha Ha Ha
5hitter 1 year ago
@anger96-Gay is your mother and father. The Greek soldier has proven himself historically as the best overall. The slavs? Only slavs fight like pussies and weak fighters just like gays and it iss historically proven. Actions speak louder than words
5hitter 1 year ago
@5hitter
You just showed your real NAZI face... What a fascist!
PeceFromHeraklea 1 year ago
@PeceFromHeraklea-What? no argument based on historical fact anymore.? And the turkish, nazi and communist collaborators are you slavs as you showed it many times with your crimes against humanity against the Greeks.
5hitter 1 year ago
@Macedon51
@5hitter
It writes that they were about 3 million, maybe more, and that they passed the river Danube with straws. So how is it possible? How could three million of people to lived in swamps behind the Carpathians? And the rivers at that time were much larger than now, so how they succeed to pass the river Danube with straws? Who was their king?
PeceFromHeraklea 1 year ago
@Macedon51 FYROM people are not Macedonian - they were used first by Bulgaria and then by the Communists to try to control the Greek North Aegean
FYROM A COMMUNIST DREAM: Communist leader Dimitrov' Secret Diary, "we talk about Macedonian Nation which consists of Bulgarians, Serbs and Greeks? Is it possible for Macedonia to exist as an independent state or in the frame of the confederation of Southern Slavs, regardless of the ETHNOGRAPHICAL CONCOCTION that it is?"
SMYRNAfreedom 1 year ago
@Macedon51 Hahahahahahahahah funny monkeydonian...If you want to call your country makedonia you might as well surrender it to Greece cause this is where the real Makedonia belongs to
BestRemixesOnlyVol2 1 year ago
Only the Greeks are Macedonians.
Macedonia=Greece.
technologicalsky 2 years ago
Greece is not fake..The video is FACE.
Macedonia=Greece.
technologicalsky 2 years ago
After the Balkan war 1913 when Greece took over 51% of Macedonian territory with the peace treaty of Bucharest, the name Macedonian and the Macedonian language were prohibited and the Macedonians were referred to as Bulgarians, Slavophone Greeks or simply "endopes" (natives). At the same time, all the Macedonians were forced to
change their names and surnames, the latter having to end in -is, -os or -poulos.
PeceFromHeraklea 2 years ago
@PeceFromHeraklea
Do you really think this is possible, god dam you are a moron, "change their names and surnames" pfftt, you are slavs your languague is slavic and so is your culture
portugalreis 2 years ago
@portugalreis
the African countries like: Benin, Ivory Coast, Burkina Faso, Gabon, Equatorial Guinea, Congo, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Madagascar, Mali, Niger, Rwanda, Senegal, Togo and Chad speak French language and have French names, religion, customs etc.
Can we say they are French people?
The same is for us, Macedonians, the Slavs destroyed our real language, names, customs, renamed the cities names, rivers etc.
PeceFromHeraklea 2 years ago
@PeceFromHeraklea
Even if ethnically you are Greek your culture is not, the greek in grece how ever are, wait then shouldn't you all learn greek and change your names?
portugalreis 2 years ago
@portugalreis
We are not ethnically Greek, but Macedonians. The ancient Macedonians were a distinct nation separate from their neighbors. My family has been living on ancient Macedonian land more than 1500 years, so I have a full right to consider myself as Macedonian!
PeceFromHeraklea 2 years ago
@PeceFromHeraklea. Macedeonia is a Greek word. If you are not Greek then why use a Greek word THIEF!!! Only Greeks have the right to call themselves by a Greek word. You are a slav and thief and therefore deserve a slavic name
5hitter 1 year ago
@PeceFromHeraklea-The Ancient Macedonian artifacts, ruins and temples are written in Greek.Would they use Greek words while at the same time claim they were not Greek? Its stupid just like your reasoning. The word Macedonia is Greek. The language you speak is slavic not Greek. Therefore you cannot call yourself Macedonian. Only Greeks can
5hitter 1 year ago
@PeceFromHeraklea >> Krste Misirkov, 1903, "our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"
Krste Misirkov - expressed the ethnicity of the Slavs living in "Macedonia" including his own ethnicity, calling them pure Bulgarians.
FYROM language - West Bulgarian Slavic
FYROM PRESIDENT KIRO GLIGOROV: "WE ARE SLAVS - THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN US AND ALEXANDER THE GREAT .. WE CAME HERE IN THE 6TH CENTURY AFTER CHRIST"
SMYRNAfreedom 1 year ago
@PeceFromHeraklea Dude...We are there since 4000 years ago...You came on this territory 1400 years ago...Fucking learn some history re
BestRemixesOnlyVol2 1 year ago
@BestRemixesOnlyVol2
Really? If it's true you would easy find some Greek from 19th century who considered himself as Macedonian, don't you? :)
PeceFromHeraklea 1 year ago
@PeceFromHeraklea Yes,exactly
BestRemixesOnlyVol2 1 year ago
@BestRemixesOnlyVol2
So? I am waiting... Find me some Greek from 19th century who considered himself as Macedonian, because I can easy find a true Macedonian from that time confirming his Macedonian identity:
"I am not Bulgarian, nor Greek, nor Serb, but I am a pure Macedonian as were Philip and Alexander of Macedon and Aristotle Philosopher."
- Georgi Pulevski (1838-1895)
PeceFromHeraklea 1 year ago
@PeceFromHeraklea So,if i say that i do not consider myself greek but german means that im german?
And for your information Alexander,Phillip and Aristotle were Makedonians and Greeks...Just like Socratis and Pericles were Athenians and greeks...Cause Athens and Makedonia were nothing more than greek city states...And if you check wikipedia(independant source) you will find that for example aristotle was a GREEK philoshopher...It does not say SLAV
BestRemixesOnlyVol2 1 year ago
@BestRemixesOnlyVol2
Just like I expected before... Typical Greek reaction, running away from the truth with speaking about something else... I knew you will never find a Greek from 19th century who considered himself as Macedonian. By the way, what was Georgi Pulevski? An alien from Mars?
PeceFromHeraklea 1 year ago
@PeceFromHeraklea From what truth?and Georgi Pulevski was another bulgarian who wanted to be Makedon...face it
BestRemixesOnlyVol2 1 year ago
@BestRemixesOnlyVol2
Hahaha... Poor Greek excuse! If he was Bulgarian, than why he didn't say that he is a pure Bulgarian? Why he said: "I am a pure Macedonian as were Phillip and Alexander? Maybe he was under drunk or maybe under drogs? xD
PeceFromHeraklea 1 year ago
@BestRemixesOnlyVol2
What about Boris Sarafov?
"We, the Macedonians, are not Serbs nor Bulgarians, but simply Macedonians. The Macedonian people exist independent of the Bulgarian and Serb people. We sympathise with both, Bulgarians and Serbs; whoever will help us achieve our freedom, to them we will be thankful, but let the Bulgarians and Serbs not forget, that Macedonia is only for the Macedonians."
- Boris Sarafov (1872-1907)
PeceFromHeraklea 1 year ago
@PeceFromHeraklea
YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG, ON 1912-3 GREECE TOOK FROM OTTOMAN TURKS 98% OF MACEDONIAN TERRITORY,AS WELL ON 1924 MOST OF THE BULGARIAN POPULATION LEFT FROM MACEDONIA TO BULGARIA,ACCORDING TO POLITIS-KALVOV PROTOCOL.
lolskiification1 1 year ago
@lolskiification1
Yes, but the European researches, even the king Konstantine I of Greece admitted that when the Greek armies occupied the Macedonian territory and freed from the Turks the majority of the popultaion there were NOT Greeks!
PeceFromHeraklea 1 year ago
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@PeceFromHeraklea
European researches? named them
even the king Konstantine I of Greece admitted that when the Greek armies occupied the Macedonian territory and freed from the Turks the majority of the popultaion there were NOT Greeks!
i supposed that you were there!
lolskiification1 1 year ago
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@PeceFromHeraklea
European researches? named them
even the king Konstantine I of Greece admitted that when the Greek armies occupied the Macedonian territory and freed from the Turks the majority of the popultaion there were NOT Greeks!
i supposed that you was there, you heard that by your ears?!"
lolskiification1 1 year ago