Say what you will about his methods: the proof is in the music. Beethoven is simply not recorded with this degree of seriousness or quality these days.
Why do you post such a fucking silly comment? The poor man was threatened by the Nazis because he was Jewish. That's why he left Germany in 1933. So if you don't have something intelligent to contribute you should better keep your stupid mouth shut !!!!
fucking most epic conductor ever ... you guys need to stop dissing klemperer and have a listen of his beethoven symphonies (such as the no. 5 he did with the vienna philharmonic in 1968).. they are absolutely profound.
Ha ha, "why don't you take the bows I gave you!!", well that was meant to help the musicians, right? What a great man and musician he was. He had a vivid sense of humour although he was a really unlucky person (bipolar). He also was leftwing.
Who says they didn't, by the way? There have been lots of jewish volunteers in all branches of German army ('Hitlerjunge Salomon'), in the elite branches AND jewish girl Lise Meitner worked for H. on the Nazi BOMB...
Moreover, zionism was/is a racist ideology that inspired Fascism... In Italy jews had no problems...
"There have been lots of jewish volunteers in all branches of German army" - yes, but this was during World War 1, not under Hitler. Meitner left Germany in 1938; she always refused to research on the atom bomb. "In Italy jews had no problems..." You cannot be serious!
2. Meitner remained from 1933-1938 at Kaiser Wilhelm Institut Berlin, i.e. under Hitler, as senior jewish scientists were long gone. The project amounted to nuclear research;
3. Even in late 30's there were jews in Fascist party ánd Italian government. Mussolini gave economical aid to Zionist movement. Zionism influenced upcoming of Italian Fascism in the 20s.
Klemperer was one of the greats! "WHY DON'T YOU TAKE THE BOWINGS I GIVE YOU!!" If conductors could get away with stuff like that now, orchestras would sound so much better than they do now under the new generation of quasi-musician, pop-star-wannabes like Salonen will
when I was listening to this music without knowing about this incident about the bowing, the music seemed to have a special kind of weight and dignity and I wondered why... It is certainly worthwhile to insist on that bowing directions.
LOL one sentence, better than all the shoutings of Toscanini put together.
TsarBovov 4 months ago
WHY DON'T YOU TAKE THE BOWS I GiVE YOU! My new catch phrase
Huddiethegreat 1 year ago
Say what you will about his methods: the proof is in the music. Beethoven is simply not recorded with this degree of seriousness or quality these days.
LeavesinTibet 1 year ago
The old school of conducting: They were so harsh with the musicians...
Scissors8311 2 years ago
What piece are they playing?
Doggy240 3 years ago
It's Beethoven's "Egmont overture"
frankfryderzweite 3 years ago
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Only a goofy idiot conductor would have the violins use that bowing...
winrx 3 years ago
klemperers die zauberflote is the best ever recorded.
DiVeronica 2 years ago 2
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He would have made a fine Gestapo chief...
winrx 3 years ago
Why do you post such a fucking silly comment? The poor man was threatened by the Nazis because he was Jewish. That's why he left Germany in 1933. So if you don't have something intelligent to contribute you should better keep your stupid mouth shut !!!!
frankfryderzweite 3 years ago 9
what does he actually want them to play there? the movements with his hand don't seem to be that clear
darchr90 3 years ago
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prokhorprotasov 3 years ago
BOW:
down, down, dwon, up, up!
prokhorprotasov 3 years ago
but actually they play that, don't they? why is he so angry with them?
darchr90 3 years ago
See Walter Klemperer Mengelberg Koussevitsky prt1 clip. At 4:30 it goes on where this one here stops.
Check how he apes the violinists. "Pam--pam--pa----pam-....---paaaam". O man.
Leibo07 4 years ago
"Oh, I'm an IMMORALISTE, ABSOLJUTELIEE !!!"
Ha ha, pure gold, what a brilliant geezer. I collect everything of 'O.K.'
Merci.
Leibo07 4 years ago
look at 2. violin
kaisergnocchi2 4 years ago
fucking most epic conductor ever ... you guys need to stop dissing klemperer and have a listen of his beethoven symphonies (such as the no. 5 he did with the vienna philharmonic in 1968).. they are absolutely profound.
daspianist 4 years ago
Awful man,control freak ...he even upset the Brilliant Kathleen Ferrier!
opera60 4 years ago
Ha ha, "why don't you take the bows I gave you!!", well that was meant to help the musicians, right? What a great man and musician he was. He had a vivid sense of humour although he was a really unlucky person (bipolar). He also was leftwing.
Please post more Otto!
Leibo07 4 years ago
I love it !
Belathin 4 years ago
He would have made a fine camp commandant...
winrx 4 years ago
... if they accepted Jews in that position.
stringph 4 years ago
Who says they didn't, by the way? There have been lots of jewish volunteers in all branches of German army ('Hitlerjunge Salomon'), in the elite branches AND jewish girl Lise Meitner worked for H. on the Nazi BOMB...
Moreover, zionism was/is a racist ideology that inspired Fascism... In Italy jews had no problems...
Leibo07 4 years ago
"There have been lots of jewish volunteers in all branches of German army" - yes, but this was during World War 1, not under Hitler. Meitner left Germany in 1938; she always refused to research on the atom bomb. "In Italy jews had no problems..." You cannot be serious!
yasgi 3 years ago
1. I don't suffer easily from typos: WW2.
2. Meitner remained from 1933-1938 at Kaiser Wilhelm Institut Berlin, i.e. under Hitler, as senior jewish scientists were long gone. The project amounted to nuclear research;
3. Even in late 30's there were jews in Fascist party ánd Italian government. Mussolini gave economical aid to Zionist movement. Zionism influenced upcoming of Italian Fascism in the 20s.
Leibo07 3 years ago
This is one domain where liberalism is not a good thing. A touch of Facism please! Can I have another?
Entropy56 4 years ago
An interesting bowing, at that.
murraybowles 4 years ago
Does anyone know the name of the piece they are rehearsing?
AAtabey 4 years ago
"Egmont Overture Op. 84" by Ludwig Van Beethoven :)
musico136 4 years ago
Klemperer was one of the greats! "WHY DON'T YOU TAKE THE BOWINGS I GIVE YOU!!" If conductors could get away with stuff like that now, orchestras would sound so much better than they do now under the new generation of quasi-musician, pop-star-wannabes like Salonen will
bus11 4 years ago
No they wouldn't! It is nonsense to suggest that orchestras sound and work better when being conducted by rude and tyranical conductors.
mpearsonmadrid 4 years ago
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GordonUppercut 3 years ago
Leadership and social skills don't affect people and, in turn, their musicianship? Seriously? Have you ever read a book?
matthewR77 2 years ago
salonen is one of the most understated conductors in the top professional world....he recently resigned la phil to do more composing.....
FungoBoy 2 years ago
great conductor
pviola314 2 years ago
that's so funny! haha!
martincello25 4 years ago
when I was listening to this music without knowing about this incident about the bowing, the music seemed to have a special kind of weight and dignity and I wondered why... It is certainly worthwhile to insist on that bowing directions.
yttrium55 5 years ago 3
lmao, its difficutl to take bows like that
misterbg1 5 years ago