Its a win, win, win set up for the whole industry. I get so tired of the fighting between various fan boys. Apple wins but so does intel and so PCS. Apple is a great platform to use to pioneer expensive technology make it perfect and then create the demand for it by people that it gets adopted and therefore cheaper as it scales. I just do not understand trashing PCs or Apples any more. When you bring in Linux and other Unixes we have have a great competitive environment.
Light peak + Apple co-engineering = great multidirectional, multi-protocol, 10GBPS daisy Chain-able solution so you can, BOOM -- put your laptop down plug it in to the chain and have your raid array, your two large screens and any other data intensive devices you wanted connected up and you are you are ready to roll. Apple helped without the engineering to get the the early cheaper version of light peak in higher end laptops by showing how to do it as a solution. its name THUNDERBOLT.
yes and Apple will be the first to put light peck on there macs they are work closely with intel and have first dibbs!! so USB 3.0 will be rendered obsolete so all your PC fan boys can go fuck yourself because light peck ports will blow the shit out of any USB, esata or even firewire connection on any windows PC when it comes out yay!!
@Djluv5 thunderbolt lol nah sorry but people that lable people a fanboy are just ignorant... wait that you!! wow Light Peak is the future and will be in Apple products, so as you said "Shut the fuck up" fanboy :)
@pkerry12 U r the fucking fanboy.. cunt... what the fuck are u talking about.. I didn't I like this brand or any other.. so shut the fuck up.. u r just a fucking ignorant that don't know shit and a pretender... u r clearly an apple fanboy.. and that's all u know.. u should admire technology as a whole and not for a single brand.. for ur information the thunderbolt is patented under intel that means every computer including pc will have it.. not just apple.. dickhead..
@Djluv5 no your the fanboy mate just like all the pricks that hate apple, so you can shut the fuck up. nah mate using my own words lol makes you more of an ignorant fuck. clearly yout a PC fanboy and thats are you know. I am nether if you have ever seen any of my Videos I am all for Apple and Windows PCs' so thats how I know you are an ignorant fuck because you don't have any fact behind your argument. assumptions are the mother of all fuck ups. :)
@pkerry12 U r making a fool of urself dickhead.. u r the fanboy coz u r defending apple.. they dont need u dickhead.. n for ur information i never said i hated apple.. hahahah u r such a douche..u r talking about facts.. u r the one saying that pc is gone bcoz apple has the thunderbolt.. not me dickhead.. read ur fucking comments.. u just said u r all apple.. so u r a fanboy.. grow up cunt.. U r changing the subject and u r trying to tell me that I have no argument.. pffff served...
@Djluv5 lol I don't think so mate I am not the one getting all upset about it lol but its certainly fun to watch you make yourself look like an idiot hehehe. really? you think if you defend one company your a fan boy? hahahahahahaha wow you are ignorant, Thunderbolt technology will eventually be with PCs but I don't think you realise that thunderbolt ports are already on the new macbook pros, and they are the same shape as what a mini display port is. Served? lol you haven't served shit mate LOL
@pkerry12 Yeah u dont think so.. read ur comments.. u started by saying pc's are doomed bcoz they dont have thunderbolt.. now u r saying they will have it... without knowing u came to see my point of view that is why u got served.. fyi apple does not need u to defend them.. they dont give a shit about u.... u r so pathetic.. grow the fuck up....
I'm sure Light Peak devices will be backwards-compatible with USB/FireWire/eSATA/DVI/ETC ports since it's only the cables that are changing and the plugs are interchangable
in my opinion, cloud computing ***cough***GOOGLE***cough*** is the future. Rather than file transfers via cable, I think that you will be able to host your 'Hard Drive' on a server and access all of your files and information from any device through an internet connection. Would this be more convenient than a cable?? I don't know!
Your still going to have USB for a long time, Lightpeak can only transfer data not energy from my understanding so you'll still need USB to power your plug and play devices. Lightpeak is more for devices that already have a power supply, so computers will have lightpeak ports and usb ports.
@fantasypills Apple PUSHES Intel to develop new tech, the ULV i5 and i7's wouldn't be here if it were for Apple threatening to ditch Intel because they couldn't develop the tech that Apple needed.
It's a good idea but think about this, if you can only have so much data going to the CPU then you can only have so many ports and so what if you want to use a printer, that's a wasted port because each port needs to be able to give a certain amount of bandwidth like if you had all of them pushing displays, then that would be a lot of bandwidth required and something small would really limit it from being utilized.
IDK if I'm making sense or not, what do you guys think of my thought?
Not exactly trustworthy is he, with a stolen Dell from his local Library on display to top up his street cred. He's even got one ear bigger than the other the scheming northerner.
Not exactly trustworthy is he, with a stolen Dell from his local Library on display to top up his street cred. He's even got one ear bigger than the other the scheming northerner.
prob one of the reasons why intel keeps delaying native USB 3.0 support. Even intels next socket 1155 due out Q1 2011 won't natively support USB 3.0 support.
Excited about it but is it going to be another Rambus? I like to eventually have one port for everything, just one port on the computer and a cable branching off into other devices and being able to add/remove branches into the cable (like we do now with USB Hubs).
oh great, all my usb hardware will be uselss, monitors useless, external hard drives useless. I predict they will start with one connector only, one with a variety of plugs so we can use it for different things while our usb devices are faded out.
i think this is going to take a very very long time to catch on. Does everyone really want one standardized port? Things are gonna get confusing if every cable looks the same for different purposes.
It'll be most impressive when it becomes the standard by the end of 2010 or start of 2011. You'll be able to transfer a full length Blu Ray movie over light peak in about 30 seconds.
You have no understanding how hard it takes to push a technology to be standard, normally if a technology is released before it gains any market share other then early adopters is normally in a year, it becomes widely accepts in about 3 years, and standard by year 5.
i dont see how this will work, evryone will need a new tv, new computer, new monitor, new external hard drives, new ps3 , new xbox, new wii, new blu ray player new audio system - surround sound.
i think they will slowly build it up, like he said in the video they might supply adapters for usb cables/devices and while the major companies that provide the usb cables for the products manufacture the light peak cable then it will eventually be they main input IO in all of the products you listed above. it will take a few years for all of this to happen but its good news for us.
apple rocks... i read somewhere that they invented this technology n tied up with intel for implementing is in future apple computers. infact intel is working on a Mac pro with it right now.
its good but with the way usb has flooded the market i can see them both just competing. although i guess intel did create the usb and could destroy it by simply not making usb 4.0
USB in every respect but market penetration is poor. It's slow, uses CPU cycles and just has far too much overhead. Even 3.0 is a resource hog. If you remember when 2.0 came out it slowed down PC's because of the CPU use but we don't notice it these days because CPU's are just so much faster. We'll see this again with 3.0. FireWire is a far superior tech but didn't take off because of licencing more than anything. Apple could have killed it if they made it cheaper to licence.
The MMS is largely attributed to AT&T, you saw the fiasco even when the phone could physically handle it, so there's a large concensus that the original didn't have it because AT&T couldn't handle it, which impacted the rest of the world because they didn't want the flasgship carreir to have less than others around the world. Also Apple started using USB before anybody else on their consumer machines. Before then it was workstations that had it in the PC space.
Sorry you had to have a bad answer from LACK78, to give you an answer here it is. Lightpeak will become an option, it would never replace anything.
Just as DVI replaced VGA, VGA still exists. Just as HDMI replaces DVI, DVI still exists on most motherboards.
Why? Simple, these are inexpensive to add, and people use them. It'll take nearly 5-7 years for light peak to become the standard when it comes out. The first version of light peak is copper not optical.
possibly but i doubt it. LightPeak was originally designed to be fiber based but was sort of ditched for copper because copper carries power. with that being said, things like thumb drives could be used with lightpeak. the 2 most amazing thing about lightpeak is that it rids us of "much" of the need for a south bridge. the other is that it pcie based which probably isn't going anywhere in the next 10-15+ years.
Thanks Dave, sounds like it could be really good. Like you said tho the transformation could be the problem, look what happened with all this freeview TV stuff.
Look forward to this new system in a way, scared about it in other ways.
look out the worlds shittiest pc behind you
blissinthemix 5 months ago
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lef7667 9 months ago
Its a win, win, win set up for the whole industry. I get so tired of the fighting between various fan boys. Apple wins but so does intel and so PCS. Apple is a great platform to use to pioneer expensive technology make it perfect and then create the demand for it by people that it gets adopted and therefore cheaper as it scales. I just do not understand trashing PCs or Apples any more. When you bring in Linux and other Unixes we have have a great competitive environment.
YourMadTourGuide 11 months ago
@YourMadTourGuide Agree
Djluv5 11 months ago
Light peak + Apple co-engineering = great multidirectional, multi-protocol, 10GBPS daisy Chain-able solution so you can, BOOM -- put your laptop down plug it in to the chain and have your raid array, your two large screens and any other data intensive devices you wanted connected up and you are you are ready to roll. Apple helped without the engineering to get the the early cheaper version of light peak in higher end laptops by showing how to do it as a solution. its name THUNDERBOLT.
YourMadTourGuide 11 months ago
yes and Apple will be the first to put light peck on there macs they are work closely with intel and have first dibbs!! so USB 3.0 will be rendered obsolete so all your PC fan boys can go fuck yourself because light peck ports will blow the shit out of any USB, esata or even firewire connection on any windows PC when it comes out yay!!
pkerry12 1 year ago
@pkerry12 stop being an apple fanboy... for ur interest firewire is apple... and thunderbolt is intel.. so shut the fuck up...
Djluv5 11 months ago
@Djluv5 thunderbolt lol nah sorry but people that lable people a fanboy are just ignorant... wait that you!! wow Light Peak is the future and will be in Apple products, so as you said "Shut the fuck up" fanboy :)
pkerry12 11 months ago
@pkerry12 U r the fucking fanboy.. cunt... what the fuck are u talking about.. I didn't I like this brand or any other.. so shut the fuck up.. u r just a fucking ignorant that don't know shit and a pretender... u r clearly an apple fanboy.. and that's all u know.. u should admire technology as a whole and not for a single brand.. for ur information the thunderbolt is patented under intel that means every computer including pc will have it.. not just apple.. dickhead..
Djluv5 11 months ago
@Djluv5 no your the fanboy mate just like all the pricks that hate apple, so you can shut the fuck up. nah mate using my own words lol makes you more of an ignorant fuck. clearly yout a PC fanboy and thats are you know. I am nether if you have ever seen any of my Videos I am all for Apple and Windows PCs' so thats how I know you are an ignorant fuck because you don't have any fact behind your argument. assumptions are the mother of all fuck ups. :)
pkerry12 11 months ago
@pkerry12 U r making a fool of urself dickhead.. u r the fanboy coz u r defending apple.. they dont need u dickhead.. n for ur information i never said i hated apple.. hahahah u r such a douche..u r talking about facts.. u r the one saying that pc is gone bcoz apple has the thunderbolt.. not me dickhead.. read ur fucking comments.. u just said u r all apple.. so u r a fanboy.. grow up cunt.. U r changing the subject and u r trying to tell me that I have no argument.. pffff served...
Djluv5 11 months ago
@Djluv5 lol I don't think so mate I am not the one getting all upset about it lol but its certainly fun to watch you make yourself look like an idiot hehehe. really? you think if you defend one company your a fan boy? hahahahahahaha wow you are ignorant, Thunderbolt technology will eventually be with PCs but I don't think you realise that thunderbolt ports are already on the new macbook pros, and they are the same shape as what a mini display port is. Served? lol you haven't served shit mate LOL
pkerry12 11 months ago
@pkerry12 Yeah u dont think so.. read ur comments.. u started by saying pc's are doomed bcoz they dont have thunderbolt.. now u r saying they will have it... without knowing u came to see my point of view that is why u got served.. fyi apple does not need u to defend them.. they dont give a shit about u.... u r so pathetic.. grow the fuck up....
Djluv5 11 months ago
Dell Optiplex in the background?
scopes20 1 year ago
I'm sure Light Peak devices will be backwards-compatible with USB/FireWire/eSATA/DVI/ETC ports since it's only the cables that are changing and the plugs are interchangable
drrobertoboogie97 1 year ago
in my opinion, cloud computing ***cough***GOOGLE***cough*** is the future. Rather than file transfers via cable, I think that you will be able to host your 'Hard Drive' on a server and access all of your files and information from any device through an internet connection. Would this be more convenient than a cable?? I don't know!
hendrie91 1 year ago
@hendrie91 Cloud computing still relies on the use of cables. I know the point your trying to make though.
spurrell 1 year ago
Your still going to have USB for a long time, Lightpeak can only transfer data not energy from my understanding so you'll still need USB to power your plug and play devices. Lightpeak is more for devices that already have a power supply, so computers will have lightpeak ports and usb ports.
ASpatha 1 year ago
@ASpatha
Lightpeak has copper wire for carrying power to devices.
JamesCizuz 1 year ago
apple didnt develop this... all intel mate
fantasypills 1 year ago 7
@fantasypills No its not apple did help as well for compatibility... thats why they are the first one to have it on their laptop....
Djluv5 11 months ago
@fantasypills Apple PUSHES Intel to develop new tech, the ULV i5 and i7's wouldn't be here if it were for Apple threatening to ditch Intel because they couldn't develop the tech that Apple needed.
FeeLtheHertZ 5 months ago
is it faster than 3.0? 3.0 is like 4.9gb/s
quadsnipable 1 year ago
@quadsnipable It's 2 times faster than USB 3.0
drrobertoboogie97 1 year ago
It's a good idea but think about this, if you can only have so much data going to the CPU then you can only have so many ports and so what if you want to use a printer, that's a wasted port because each port needs to be able to give a certain amount of bandwidth like if you had all of them pushing displays, then that would be a lot of bandwidth required and something small would really limit it from being utilized.
IDK if I'm making sense or not, what do you guys think of my thought?
700up700up 1 year ago
@700up700up I don't think it works the same as bandwidth
spurrell 1 year ago
The speed of light peak will begin at 10Gb/s with the potential to reach 100Gb/s
richardnja 1 year ago
how fast is estata
iphone3gs78 1 year ago
@iphone3gs78 3 GBit/sec
drrobertoboogie97 1 year ago
the devices will start to appear on the market at some point in 2011.
naryanr 1 year ago
Not exactly trustworthy is he, with a stolen Dell from his local Library on display to top up his street cred. He's even got one ear bigger than the other the scheming northerner.
hundyC 1 year ago
Not exactly trustworthy is he, with a stolen Dell from his local Library on display to top up his street cred. He's even got one ear bigger than the other the scheming northerner.
hundyC 1 year ago
prob one of the reasons why intel keeps delaying native USB 3.0 support. Even intels next socket 1155 due out Q1 2011 won't natively support USB 3.0 support.
SteelCity1981 2 years ago
Excited about it but is it going to be another Rambus? I like to eventually have one port for everything, just one port on the computer and a cable branching off into other devices and being able to add/remove branches into the cable (like we do now with USB Hubs).
thelegendarypaki 2 years ago
they have already invented wirless power so stuff light peek
tigermankieran666 2 years ago
@tigermankieran666 wireless technology uses electromagnetic waves to transfer data, light peak uses light, wireless cant transfer data that fast.
ro1bu 1 year ago
@ro1bu True, but people would rather the convenience of no wires what so ever.
tigermankieran666 1 year ago
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Fuck light peak make bluetooth faster and go completely wireless!
ibpointless2 2 years ago
It would be cool if they ran 2 copper wires with it. If they used 48V like POE they could provide power and data at long distances.
Also I want a plug that latches in place with less chance of it breaking than rj45 heads.
jeffsadowski 2 years ago
I'm sure they will have USB/Firewire/DVI to Light Peak bridges.
Navstar100 2 years ago 6
oh great, all my usb hardware will be uselss, monitors useless, external hard drives useless. I predict they will start with one connector only, one with a variety of plugs so we can use it for different things while our usb devices are faded out.
nice dell in the background
johnmonk66 2 years ago
i think this is going to take a very very long time to catch on. Does everyone really want one standardized port? Things are gonna get confusing if every cable looks the same for different purposes.
iStu91 2 years ago
I saw Intel's video on this, it was utterlly impressive and I couldn't help but notice that they ran the test on a Hackintosh ^^
Nnemicvids 2 years ago
buying lightpeak->X dongles is going to be funnn
thebsdguy 2 years ago
ur AWESOME
skunky1112 2 years ago
WOW are you sure this wil be released 2011?
It sounds awesome!
FreshDumbledore4ever 2 years ago
It'll be most impressive when it becomes the standard by the end of 2010 or start of 2011. You'll be able to transfer a full length Blu Ray movie over light peak in about 30 seconds.
LACK78 2 years ago 2
i heard apple are pushing this over USB 3.0, lol and here i was getting excited by usb 3.0.lol
DRBUK 2 years ago
plus i dont plan on getting a new mac for a good 3 years, so if its out in 3/4 years i cant wait !
DRBUK 2 years ago
whooa o.O
FaisalSalman20 2 years ago
@LACK78
You have no understanding how hard it takes to push a technology to be standard, normally if a technology is released before it gains any market share other then early adopters is normally in a year, it becomes widely accepts in about 3 years, and standard by year 5.
JamesCizuz 1 year ago
Sounds kewl. Can't wait. :D
fallenembers08 2 years ago
awesome!
LUXURY713 2 years ago
i dont see how this will work, evryone will need a new tv, new computer, new monitor, new external hard drives, new ps3 , new xbox, new wii, new blu ray player new audio system - surround sound.
moonchavs123 2 years ago
i think they will slowly build it up, like he said in the video they might supply adapters for usb cables/devices and while the major companies that provide the usb cables for the products manufacture the light peak cable then it will eventually be they main input IO in all of the products you listed above. it will take a few years for all of this to happen but its good news for us.
w35t51d369 2 years ago
No problems... if possible new man too....
urumqilik 2 years ago
apple rocks... i read somewhere that they invented this technology n tied up with intel for implementing is in future apple computers. infact intel is working on a Mac pro with it right now.
mastibusiness 2 years ago
its good but with the way usb has flooded the market i can see them both just competing. although i guess intel did create the usb and could destroy it by simply not making usb 4.0
hord 2 years ago
USB in every respect but market penetration is poor. It's slow, uses CPU cycles and just has far too much overhead. Even 3.0 is a resource hog. If you remember when 2.0 came out it slowed down PC's because of the CPU use but we don't notice it these days because CPU's are just so much faster. We'll see this again with 3.0. FireWire is a far superior tech but didn't take off because of licencing more than anything. Apple could have killed it if they made it cheaper to licence.
TalesOfWar 2 years ago
how do you find out all this information?
TheLyricalrapper 2 years ago
Sounds very cool. Man, always something new.
Never heard of this till your video. Thanks for getting the word out to me.
chessdude67 2 years ago
Dave your awesome , I imagine this is McDefo the next big thing in technology.
Also I imagine having 1 cable for everything will make prices lower maybe :S I dunno maybe not
Hello from Cork aswell :D
EoinTheInsomniac 2 years ago
Cool. But I wish I could just add it on instead of buying a new computer. Oh well it's an excuse to build one.
perple2701 2 years ago
Apple has proven slow on everything so a USB replacement maybe 20 years from now. Nano with camera?? 2years for MMS? Duh duh?
mikerlx 2 years ago
The MMS is largely attributed to AT&T, you saw the fiasco even when the phone could physically handle it, so there's a large concensus that the original didn't have it because AT&T couldn't handle it, which impacted the rest of the world because they didn't want the flasgship carreir to have less than others around the world. Also Apple started using USB before anybody else on their consumer machines. Before then it was workstations that had it in the PC space.
TalesOfWar 2 years ago
even replace hdmi! omg but that will leave us with old out of date usbs and hdmi's and stuff
jordyGFC 2 years ago
As early as late 2010 I hear! Looks AMAZING.
It's also bio directional (so 10gigs each way!) amazing for networking!
MilesWS1234 2 years ago
it sounds rely good but r they ditching usb 3 ?
JackintoshG4 2 years ago 2
Good question. Time will tell.
LACK78 2 years ago 2
@JackintoshG4
Yes, USB 3.0 was just a placeholder ;)
FXerGerFra 1 year ago
@JackintoshG4
Sorry you had to have a bad answer from LACK78, to give you an answer here it is. Lightpeak will become an option, it would never replace anything.
Just as DVI replaced VGA, VGA still exists. Just as HDMI replaces DVI, DVI still exists on most motherboards.
Why? Simple, these are inexpensive to add, and people use them. It'll take nearly 5-7 years for light peak to become the standard when it comes out. The first version of light peak is copper not optical.
JamesCizuz 1 year ago
@JackintoshG4
possibly but i doubt it. LightPeak was originally designed to be fiber based but was sort of ditched for copper because copper carries power. with that being said, things like thumb drives could be used with lightpeak. the 2 most amazing thing about lightpeak is that it rids us of "much" of the need for a south bridge. the other is that it pcie based which probably isn't going anywhere in the next 10-15+ years.
hks85 9 months ago
hmm thatts interesting :)
callOfjuliet 2 years ago
I honestly can not wait!
DARKtutorials 2 years ago
Thanks Dave, sounds like it could be really good. Like you said tho the transformation could be the problem, look what happened with all this freeview TV stuff.
Look forward to this new system in a way, scared about it in other ways.
barnesnet 2 years ago