I don't understand going through the trouble of doing a video/commercial to sell a concept of something that isn't available and doesn't work *yet.* What's the objective of this video? To have people invest?
Make sure you read the entirety of CFR Title 14 FAR Part 103. You will not be able to fly it into the city to get to work. You are also restricted to flying only during the daylight hours. Any restricted flying zone are prohibited to ultralight aircraft.
@armigerlives My hope would be to have a safe and reliable aircraft that people would be comfortable in trying to push the boundaries of the regulations. I wouldn't condone unsafe flight but would think that regulations would change and adapt to more and more people wanting to commute in a personal VTOL aircraft.
@ricosuave607 I wish I had one to sell you. If I did it would hopefully be under $30K. I am performing more research to get more lift so it is safer if one engine fails.
I want a steam lifted airship, which recycles the condensing water to conserve it. Salt water could be burned as fuel by passing radio waves through it (see the Salt Water Fuel vids on youtube as examples). Now once the thing is lifted by the steam til it's hovering, a "lifter" type design (copper mesh in a ring around the midsection, with spikes from the top to provide ions) could move it around (ie ion propulsion). Electricity could be made as byproduct from making the steam.
dude.thats a really good idea! and it seems completely logical and efficiant and totally doable....thats very dangerous. please be aware thier are powers that be, that usu.,uh interfere with ideas like this..im not joking.
@gabydewilde lapd has ordered like 15000 jetpacks to implement poss. this year-they ar here-very expensive...not as practical as this guys idea i think!
Hello agan Mark! Hope you're doing fine. So, can we get some actual pictures of your project, yet. Partly build craft would be fine. Anything other than computer graphics would be nice. By the way are you still interested in my robot project, I'm sure it will work. If you are, I'm ready to give you my account number, so you can easily transfer your funds into my account, so we can invest together. Nothing to much, transfer only U$3 million would be great for the initial investment. Thanks
@TOMMAZ999 Unfortunately I'm not working on it right now so I don't have anything new to show you. I've realized that I need to go back to the drawing board and do some more research to get more lift out of the same amount of power. I have some ideas of what comes next but I am working on other projects right now. I think I'll keep the video up because people seem to like it. Good luck on your project!
Hello Mark! How is the project coming along? When can we get to see some real pictures of your work? Really looking forward to you posting some nice actual pictures! I'm also back to the drawing board in developing a robot for home use. If you are interested, you can also invest with me. I'll give you a\my bank account number, so it will be very convenient for you to tranfer your money into my account. Not talking about any huge sum, just maybe 3 million US for initial investment. Thanks
I always wondered why people haven't built more Hiller flying platforms themselves. You could make one for more like $4,000. Power-wise you only need around 80hp, which could be two 250cc two-stroke motocross bike motors.
Noteworthy to your video, however, commuting in America in an ultralight isn't really possible. The F.A.R. 103 bans flying over populated areas, in controlled airspace, and in bad weather. While lots of the distance from Murietta to Irvine is unpopulated, some is.
@ttcbeppo exactly-the general public is prohibited from anything that might be a threat to existing money markets...like drivng a car..how many industries revolve around the "car" as we know it..good luck trying to make the "car" obsolete..what no tires?...the tire mafia will have you wacked...kinda like that!
I have no doubt that your project will work, I am familiar with this design, as a matter of fact there are currently several technologies that can make flying to work a reality right now, the quad rotor technology for example is one of those, I wish you luck with your design and I hope to purchase one soon
@GOPrEvil Thank you for your kind words. Like I have responded to other posts, I am back to the drawing board to get more lift from the same amount of power. Not sure when I will build a new prototype but the dream is not dead.
Look - um - to all of you getting pissed off about this device: You're right. This guy has no actual knowledge of engineering or ability to even build a remote control test model. Why are you all getting so mad? Don't even bother getting mad. He doesn't even realize that this is a hovercraft and not really much of an aircraft. If you were to get this thing up in the sky it would tip over and you would die or need the parachute to deploy. You need avionics to do real flight... and a real aircraft
nice projekt but you have vorgotten one thing this vtol what you have shown need the ground efect and when you would fly higher you need a lot of more buoyancy
@11MRKARL I am an aerospace engineer and have worked on several aircraft and spacecraft projects. Currently I am back to the drawing board to try and get more lift from the same amount of power so the aircraft is safer. I do not have a schedule at this time.
Your video says you need help to spread the word. What are your basic intentions? To first build one for yourself? You mentioned that this was designed with all off the shelf parts and cost no more than a car. How much exactly would it cost? Do you have the plans available to share?
Where is the gas tank? To make this project possible, the device must carry enough fuel to make your 70-mile communte, and it must have enough power not only to lift that fuel and a hideously fat operator, but to attain a navigable altitude, which as a few people have said, is not possible with this type of device. Good presentation; I don't think anyone is going to give you any money, though.
@MrMichaelpsmith My design was projecting a 45 minute flight time with a cruise speed of 60 mph. Of course once it is built and flying those numbers will vary depending on weather conditions. I created this video for my kickstarter project last year. But I am currently not looking for funding at this time as my design needs revisions to produce more lift. Thank you for your comments.
Why does such nonsense persist? Soft-voice presentations aside, this WON'T work. The Hiller machine and all others like it rely on hovering "in-ground effect." They don't FLY in any sense of the word. How do you propose to get your little 'hovering' device over that mountain range you showed us? By thinking about it? The Army abandoned this project due to too many limitations - weight and limited operating time for instance...and STABILITY issues. Noisy and unreliable. Knightsix
I love the no license required policy. My cousin just got his drivers license taken away for driving under influence..he is somewhat grounded now will no driving license..so he is very interested in purchasing your contraption..since there is no required license and any restrictive government regulations like driving under influence. Also, is insurance required? I hope not...to keep the operating costs down. Excellent idea Mark. When can I buy one?
You spend most of the video trying to convince people that being able to fly would be a good thing. Don't you think we already know that? Instead try to convince people that your contraption will work.
@Grafight23 My contraption will fly because it is almost identical to the Hiller flying platform. I have learned, however that my design is not as safe as it should be because if one engine failed it would not have enough power to hover. I am back to the drawing board to figure out a way to generate more lift with the same amount of power.
its great except when you get out of ground effect,they just don't fly well,better idea is a guad rotor,electric,they have flown a proto with small electric motors.A quad rotor is something you can build,the technology, parts,software are the same as the models[RC]you could sit in the center or below,you can use a ballistic chute with it.I envision a chome molly or aluminum cage,single seat,
@mrumsey40 x-plane is a pc based flight simulation program.. but unlike microsoft's counter part it has extremely accurate to life enviromental dynamics and wind. you can make this model in x-plane and test how it would interact with real world conditions. there are many amatuer builders that have gone that route to conquer any aerodynamic issues before going into a full production model. you can determine where you center of gravity and center of lift will be located.
Hey Whats up? I have built and flown my very own Rotorway helicopter, 3 Times!! Check Brad Lenart Rotorway Helicopter on utube,... thats me... Let me know if you want some help! How about a sitting version? That thing might topple over in wind... Forget the Nay- Sayers! ....Look, ANYTHING is possible! How the hell do you think Igor Sikorsky did it.. If he listened to dumb people with closed minds , there would be no such thing as a helicopter!
@yellowrotorway Hi Brad! Love your videos. Just starting to check them out. I've learned much since creating my video. I understand why helis are the most efficient way to get VTOL - its all about rotor diameter!!! I'm not worried about stability on this design - I'm worried about safety if an engine goes out and being able to land safely because I can't autorotate int this thing. I appreciate your words of encouragement. Hopefully I can make it happen in a future design!
The world will be a better place when commuters like you begin demanding mass transit of government and vote for the taxes to build it, instead of wasting even more resources and energy on solutions that only benefit you and do nothing to resolve the larger issue of how to move large numbers of people more efficiently.
@prg4533 I wish that the mass transit from the early days of the 20th century hadn't been destroyed by special interests! I love mass transit when it is available. The problem is that building mass transit now is way too costly and we as a nation cannot afford it. My hope is that aircraft like mine will reduce the current congestion so that we don't have to build more roads OR mass transit...
Being in the aircraft business for many years I have yet to see anything like this work as advertised. Your not the first by any means. I would have to see a prototype to believe it. Now that being said should you be able to show me a workable design I would be willing to devote my shop to building the prototype.
@parkert51 The Martin Jetpack is getting close. It looks like they need more funding to go into production. While trying to raise funding for the design in the video, I realized this design would not have enough power to stay in hover if it lost one of its four engines. Therefore I'm working on a revised design. I very much appreciate your offer to build the prototype, however I feel it would be premature to begin building at this time. You will see a new video once I have a new design.
@mrumsey40 I guess the term close is in need of being defined. After speaking with some people involved I was told that the longest flight the unit can make is 7 minutes. There is no auto rotation and an inherent instability problem. This is why the outdoor flights have been done via remote and a dummy on board. Wind of just a few MPH are extremely dangerous. I develop aircraft for a living and wouldn't consider martin close to anything.
@parkert51 You are probably right about the wind. I still would like to try it and see! Regarding the flight time, did you get information about the Hiller as only flying for 7 minutes?
Having not read any of the other comments (so I don't know if this as already been thrown at you), you have two issues against your design. 1.) What if it's raining and/or windy? 2.) People are idiots. This second issue is a problem which plagues EVEY 'flying car' scenario. Humans can barely drive in two dimensions, when sober. How can anyone expect us to drive well in three?
@Thaumh The ultimate flying car will be a fully enclosed VTOL aircraft that takes you where you want to go. You will not fly it and you will avoid other aircraft by a large centralized flight control computer, i.e. 'SkyNET'. SkyFly is a first step and if the wind is too strong or it is raining you just wouldn't fly. I agree that people are idiots and unfortunately someone will die because of that. My hope is that most people will realize that they need to be REALLY careful in one of these.
@mrumsey40 I have had similar thoughts on this idea for decades! I am sending the rest of my thoughts via a personal message as YouTube only allows 500 character posts.
Not possible to fly any personal vehicle. The FAA will not let you and you can only fly it over areas uninhabited by humans. I have reasearched this idea before. Its a pipe dream. You would have to have the backing of an oil tycoon to even get anywhere. Sorry to burst your bubble but this device and others cannot be used in the air above the city.
Have you seen Bob Lazar's Corvette on Hydrogen?(Hydrite 6 actually)Light weight,can be powered by Solar and or wind power thus creating virtually free hydrogen.When working with hydrite it allows for safe as well as great compression .He gets just under 400 miles per fill up and he has gone from a proto type to begining full production.The price might come down as production rates increase.
ya guy been working on this for over 15years and his dont go either.,even though he keeps asking for money. top it off. you seen how people drive. i would not want them flying above me
Great idea, however it is not viable in southern cal. The most important thing is not too many people want to stand up while they are traveling anywhere for the time you are talking about. Personally, I'd love to have one to use as a recreational vehicle, but I live in Oregon and the rain and snow suck when you have to face it without a cockpit. I have always been fascinated with the device you are talking about ever since I first saw it on some film when I was a kid. Cheers and good luck!
I actually have the same interrest and actually the same way of flying, I mean a flying platform, but actually I've got a great idea of lowering the level of noise and vibration....actually flying is every one's childhood dream, and every one has alittle child inside....well done, go on and keep us posted with the updates...goodluck
I, too, have been thinking of some sort of compact VTOL aircraft for fast point-to-point transportation, with a maximum range of 100 miles and a speed of 50-100 mph. However, the fly in the ointment is threefold —
1. Communities may have restrictions on aircraft operations;
2. Noise from operating out of one's yard will bother the neighbors in the extreme; and,
3. Employers may not grant permission to land on their (private) property.
@upajos You are correct in all your 'flies'. My idea to overcome these issues would be to push the envelope with the rules a bit and see how much leeway might exist. Sometimes it is easier to ask forgiveness than to ask permission. Obviously you would need to be as considerate as possible regarding noise and other community restrictions but it will take some experimentation to get flying cars more mainstream...
@sc6chuck9 Thank you for the offer Chuck! I really appreciate your interest in my project. Right now I'm back to the research phase of finding out how to generate more lift with a similar sized aircraft. I'll update you when I'm ready to build a full size prototype. I can't predict when that might be just yet. Thank you again!
@lukeo25 I haven't built any physical prototypes. I did build a computer model that is dimensionally accurate and is a blueprint. Because I am back to the drawing board I do not plan on building the model you see.
Hey to everyone making negative comments, this guy is trying to make something work. So what If he just has a computer generated image, its expensive to make the whole ship, and I think its smart to make a visual prototype first, saves money. As a helicopter pilot I am familiar with high cost of operation. A few concerns with flying over the mountain range in a weight shift control system though. Like your thinking on a ballistic parachute.
why not make the williams X-Jet its faster and operats the same way but it would be hard to get past the copy rights as the army are not letting it go to the publick
also why are you using a computer imag dont you have the craft you have made or dont you realey have it
@triplejayvideos Thank you for your interest! I do not sell this model as I need to modify it so it has enough lift to stay in hover out of ground effect if one engine fails. Still in research and development mode.
Same here, i'd love to be one of the first flying these, i don't care that people think it's stupid because soon enough people will realise that it really could be something.
when you're done with it please please pleeease upload some videoes!
Regarding the williams X-Jet, that is the ultimate design. Unfortunately it is VERY expensive. I'm trying to create something you can purchase for under $30K.
I've thought of that too. The problem with that configuration is safety and what happens when one engine fails. You would have to tie all four props to all of the engines which could get heavy. You would get more performance and safety if you had coaxial counter-rotating blades that are the same diameter as the 4 prop arrangement. Google 'Gen H-4'.
I like the design,but how about a quad rotor,electric,tube frame,pilot sits under 4motors and props, ballistic chute,software,gps have all been proven in RC versions so applying them to a single seat would be pretty easy.The quad rotor is very smooth.Any thoughts ?
I just checked out the Craig Vetter Air scooter contest. Pretty cool! I'm working on some new designs right now that will be safer. Hopefully I'll be able to enter the contest. Thanks for the tip!
@NIGHTEHAWK it dosent matter who approves. what ways laws work in America, if its one person then your taking your own life into your hands. No license, no certifications. and no regulations.
@MrABlinkin You should read up more on Ultralights, they are HIGHLY regulated, and approved. I would also like to say, i get where your coming form with the, "It's one person on board the craft, so your risking your own life." Well, that's no true. Now, yes if your flying over farm land, perfect, your right. But with what you said to use this as, there's many MANY other people your risking, if you have catastrophic failure, what happens when you hit the city bus at terminal velocity?
@NIGHTEHAWK My apologies they cannot be flown except between the hours of sunrise and sunset.
Ultralights may be operated during the twilight periods 30 minutes before official sunrise and 30 minutes after official sunset. The flight is only in uncontrolled airspace cannot be flown over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons.. In the US, no license or training is required by law
@MrABlinkin Correct, I have to say, it was a good idea. The ultralight thing just isn't right. If you still really want to make this, go for it being an LSA (light sport aircraft). You have to have a sport pilots license, but it's no biggy.
I don't have any funding to help but I can recomend that as soon as you have a working prototype, you should tour it around to local "Hackerspaces", air shows, and faires, like Maker Faire. You might also try to post this idea on "Kickstarter". It is a web site specifically design to help great ideas get funded. A hacker space might even help you build a prototype, but be careful. That ducted fan doesn't just suck air, it sucks MONEY.
I was thinking maybe instead of adjusting your weight to control the craft maby a automatic system could be done, perhaps using weights that can move on 4 points?
ect and so you can even sit or have other stuff in your vehicle
I think u r great for advertising ur dreams. I wish u the best. People who don't understand will always be limited to very narrow parameters in life. I am a dreamer too and the world needs us.
For some scenarios where cheap vtol is desired a short take off aircraft such as a "tweaked ultralight" offers many advantges such as faster speeds and more economical fuel burn and cost to operate. There is also no absolute need for multiple engines for safety. The flying platform usually are limited to about 35mph and need about one horsepower for every pound of weight to lift and will burn about 4 gallons of fuel for every hout of flight which equates to about 12 miles per gallon(eeecchh!!.
@blastforyou You are correct that the gas mileage is usually bad for VTOL aircraft. I am looking at some new designs to help get more thrust per hp and hopefully better gas mileage too. Thank you for your input!
Hi m8, Im working on the same project, not exactly the same but similar to the hiller, currently i have 1 engine with 2 sets of blades but i'm lacking power so i'm intending using 2 engines like the hiller did. I'm only wanting 10 foot max off the ground and i'm building just for the sake of building but i wish you all the success in the world with your project. my duct is finnished and so is my frame but still a lot to do!
Thank you for your comments. Just to let you know I canceled funding for this current design because of thrust limitations as well. I have some new ideas that I will test using scale models to see if they are viable. Good luck on your project!
Dear Kind Sir. I estimate the initial retail price to be between $30,000 and $40,000. My goal is to bring that down below $20,000 once sales volume picks up.
So in Cali instead of having drive by shootings they can have fly by shootings!
NMdesertracer 4 days ago
so why dont you show it flying instead of the one from the 50's
alexcala1 2 weeks ago
I don't understand going through the trouble of doing a video/commercial to sell a concept of something that isn't available and doesn't work *yet.* What's the objective of this video? To have people invest?
ScottsUtubeWorld 2 weeks ago
@ScottsUtubeWorld test
mrumsey40 2 weeks ago
@ScottsUtubeWorld I'm sorry. I have an answer for you but it won't post.
mrumsey40 2 weeks ago
Make sure you read the entirety of CFR Title 14 FAR Part 103. You will not be able to fly it into the city to get to work. You are also restricted to flying only during the daylight hours. Any restricted flying zone are prohibited to ultralight aircraft.
armigerlives 3 weeks ago
@armigerlives My hope would be to have a safe and reliable aircraft that people would be comfortable in trying to push the boundaries of the regulations. I wouldn't condone unsafe flight but would think that regulations would change and adapt to more and more people wanting to commute in a personal VTOL aircraft.
mrumsey40 2 weeks ago
hi thank you for responding.but i already saw one that fly.go to personal platform ufo to see it.
ricosuave607 3 weeks ago
i want one.how much?
ricosuave607 3 weeks ago
@ricosuave607 I wish I had one to sell you. If I did it would hopefully be under $30K. I am performing more research to get more lift so it is safer if one engine fails.
mrumsey40 3 weeks ago
Make a remote control model, you might get some investors interested in your project.
cubaniton74 3 weeks ago
I want a steam lifted airship, which recycles the condensing water to conserve it. Salt water could be burned as fuel by passing radio waves through it (see the Salt Water Fuel vids on youtube as examples). Now once the thing is lifted by the steam til it's hovering, a "lifter" type design (copper mesh in a ring around the midsection, with spikes from the top to provide ions) could move it around (ie ion propulsion). Electricity could be made as byproduct from making the steam.
Grimblix 3 weeks ago
YES!
NoMoreNooblets 4 weeks ago
Move closer to work. Problem solved.
saxmanchiro 1 month ago
Wouldnt it be cheaper to get yourself a paramotor?
HotElectonePlayer 1 month ago
I believe!
ricefarmer 1 month ago
So, you gave up?
OK55OK55OK 1 month ago
@OK55OK55OK Back to the drawing board and am working on another project so this one is on hold.
mrumsey40 1 month ago
The reason this design is not everywhere today is because its unstable, noisy and has high fuel usuage.
There are several one person VTOL aircraft on the market for 20-60K.
1BustedMyth 1 month ago
dude.thats a really good idea! and it seems completely logical and efficiant and totally doable....thats very dangerous. please be aware thier are powers that be, that usu.,uh interfere with ideas like this..im not joking.
whisperinwindcried67 1 month ago
it's to big, what we need is rocket backpacks.
gabydewilde 1 month ago
@gabydewilde lapd has ordered like 15000 jetpacks to implement poss. this year-they ar here-very expensive...not as practical as this guys idea i think!
whisperinwindcried67 1 month ago
Hello agan Mark! Hope you're doing fine. So, can we get some actual pictures of your project, yet. Partly build craft would be fine. Anything other than computer graphics would be nice. By the way are you still interested in my robot project, I'm sure it will work. If you are, I'm ready to give you my account number, so you can easily transfer your funds into my account, so we can invest together. Nothing to much, transfer only U$3 million would be great for the initial investment. Thanks
TOMMAZ999 1 month ago
@TOMMAZ999 Unfortunately I'm not working on it right now so I don't have anything new to show you. I've realized that I need to go back to the drawing board and do some more research to get more lift out of the same amount of power. I have some ideas of what comes next but I am working on other projects right now. I think I'll keep the video up because people seem to like it. Good luck on your project!
mrumsey40 1 month ago
Skip to 1:28 if you already know what flying is.
nowheretosit 1 month ago
Theres one issue I see with this aircraft. The point of no return in regards in tilt. You lean too much and theres no coming back.
killersushi99 1 month ago
stone knifes and bear skins
philopolymath 1 month ago
Hello Mark! How is the project coming along? When can we get to see some real pictures of your work? Really looking forward to you posting some nice actual pictures! I'm also back to the drawing board in developing a robot for home use. If you are interested, you can also invest with me. I'll give you a\my bank account number, so it will be very convenient for you to tranfer your money into my account. Not talking about any huge sum, just maybe 3 million US for initial investment. Thanks
TOMMAZ999 1 month ago
I always wondered why people haven't built more Hiller flying platforms themselves. You could make one for more like $4,000. Power-wise you only need around 80hp, which could be two 250cc two-stroke motocross bike motors.
Noteworthy to your video, however, commuting in America in an ultralight isn't really possible. The F.A.R. 103 bans flying over populated areas, in controlled airspace, and in bad weather. While lots of the distance from Murietta to Irvine is unpopulated, some is.
ttcbeppo 1 month ago
@ttcbeppo exactly-the general public is prohibited from anything that might be a threat to existing money markets...like drivng a car..how many industries revolve around the "car" as we know it..good luck trying to make the "car" obsolete..what no tires?...the tire mafia will have you wacked...kinda like that!
whisperinwindcried67 1 month ago
I have no doubt that your project will work, I am familiar with this design, as a matter of fact there are currently several technologies that can make flying to work a reality right now, the quad rotor technology for example is one of those, I wish you luck with your design and I hope to purchase one soon
GOPrEvil 1 month ago
@GOPrEvil Thank you for your kind words. Like I have responded to other posts, I am back to the drawing board to get more lift from the same amount of power. Not sure when I will build a new prototype but the dream is not dead.
mrumsey40 1 month ago
Look - um - to all of you getting pissed off about this device: You're right. This guy has no actual knowledge of engineering or ability to even build a remote control test model. Why are you all getting so mad? Don't even bother getting mad. He doesn't even realize that this is a hovercraft and not really much of an aircraft. If you were to get this thing up in the sky it would tip over and you would die or need the parachute to deploy. You need avionics to do real flight... and a real aircraft
Sviolinist 1 month ago
the government will never allow sale of this to the public
PlebScrubber 1 month ago
@PlebScrubber............. unfortunately i agree, even if they let you buy it they will never let you fly it
GOPrEvil 1 month ago
YOu make it I will But IT :D
USAFDCONE 1 month ago
nice projekt but you have vorgotten one thing this vtol what you have shown need the ground efect and when you would fly higher you need a lot of more buoyancy
Malle743 1 month ago
I am curious about your invention. What is your field of work? Engineer? Physicist? How soon can you make this perfect?
11MRKARL 2 months ago
@11MRKARL I am an aerospace engineer and have worked on several aircraft and spacecraft projects. Currently I am back to the drawing board to try and get more lift from the same amount of power so the aircraft is safer. I do not have a schedule at this time.
mrumsey40 1 month ago
Your video says you need help to spread the word. What are your basic intentions? To first build one for yourself? You mentioned that this was designed with all off the shelf parts and cost no more than a car. How much exactly would it cost? Do you have the plans available to share?
whateva400 2 months ago
yes but can you text and fly
beernchickens 2 months ago
Where is the gas tank? To make this project possible, the device must carry enough fuel to make your 70-mile communte, and it must have enough power not only to lift that fuel and a hideously fat operator, but to attain a navigable altitude, which as a few people have said, is not possible with this type of device. Good presentation; I don't think anyone is going to give you any money, though.
MrMichaelpsmith 2 months ago
@MrMichaelpsmith My design was projecting a 45 minute flight time with a cruise speed of 60 mph. Of course once it is built and flying those numbers will vary depending on weather conditions. I created this video for my kickstarter project last year. But I am currently not looking for funding at this time as my design needs revisions to produce more lift. Thank you for your comments.
mrumsey40 1 month ago
Why does such nonsense persist? Soft-voice presentations aside, this WON'T work. The Hiller machine and all others like it rely on hovering "in-ground effect." They don't FLY in any sense of the word. How do you propose to get your little 'hovering' device over that mountain range you showed us? By thinking about it? The Army abandoned this project due to too many limitations - weight and limited operating time for instance...and STABILITY issues. Noisy and unreliable. Knightsix
60knightsix 2 months ago
biggest obstacle is that 90% of the general public is afraid to fly, how about autoration ???is it going to be posible
stealhty1 2 months ago
@stealhty1 Unfortunately this type of aircraft will not autorotate. That is why if one engine fails that it still needs to be able to land safely.
mrumsey40 2 months ago
@mrumsey40 Ballistic parachute.
Sviolinist 1 month ago
I love the no license required policy. My cousin just got his drivers license taken away for driving under influence..he is somewhat grounded now will no driving license..so he is very interested in purchasing your contraption..since there is no required license and any restrictive government regulations like driving under influence. Also, is insurance required? I hope not...to keep the operating costs down. Excellent idea Mark. When can I buy one?
TOMMAZ999 2 months ago
@TOMMAZ999 Thank you for your positive feedback and support.
mrumsey40 2 months ago
Hey Mark! What's "up" (no, really up, not up in the flight sim like my six years old). Great video with real classic gripping lines.
TOMMAZ999 2 months ago
You spend most of the video trying to convince people that being able to fly would be a good thing. Don't you think we already know that? Instead try to convince people that your contraption will work.
Grafight23 2 months ago
@Grafight23 My contraption will fly because it is almost identical to the Hiller flying platform. I have learned, however that my design is not as safe as it should be because if one engine failed it would not have enough power to hover. I am back to the drawing board to figure out a way to generate more lift with the same amount of power.
mrumsey40 2 months ago
Nasa already tried to do this but it failed. Anyway, what's your knowlogies about the air dynamics?? your formation?
bruperina 2 months ago
@bruperina I have a degree in aerospace engineering and a student of aviation history.
mrumsey40 2 months ago
Come up with a better camouflage,
and nobody will worry about you flying over them.
JackSchwarzenegger 2 months ago
yer your safe but waght it ya hover over some buy's head he's head will be gone
btw the only way this thing work's coz of a buffer between the flat ground or water and the thing, but wight if you have to go over a tree or bush?
Oops849 2 months ago
its great except when you get out of ground effect,they just don't fly well,better idea is a guad rotor,electric,they have flown a proto with small electric motors.A quad rotor is something you can build,the technology, parts,software are the same as the models[RC]you could sit in the center or below,you can use a ballistic chute with it.I envision a chome molly or aluminum cage,single seat,
inagod 2 months ago
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Grimdopple 2 months ago
xplane would be a good platform for testing this craft..
darrenbennett44 2 months ago
@darrenbennett44 I'm not sure I understand your comment. Please expand :-)
mrumsey40 2 months ago
@mrumsey40 x-plane is a pc based flight simulation program.. but unlike microsoft's counter part it has extremely accurate to life enviromental dynamics and wind. you can make this model in x-plane and test how it would interact with real world conditions. there are many amatuer builders that have gone that route to conquer any aerodynamic issues before going into a full production model. you can determine where you center of gravity and center of lift will be located.
phantom0482 2 months ago
@mrumsey40 phantom0482 has just said it all... a great pc flight sim and design tools that are very accurate. great for a project like this.
you dont need to be Boeing to have a great design, just look at Burt Rutan...
Darren.
darrenbennett44 2 months ago
Hey Whats up? I have built and flown my very own Rotorway helicopter, 3 Times!! Check Brad Lenart Rotorway Helicopter on utube,... thats me... Let me know if you want some help! How about a sitting version? That thing might topple over in wind... Forget the Nay- Sayers! ....Look, ANYTHING is possible! How the hell do you think Igor Sikorsky did it.. If he listened to dumb people with closed minds , there would be no such thing as a helicopter!
yellowrotorway 2 months ago
@yellowrotorway Hi Brad! Love your videos. Just starting to check them out. I've learned much since creating my video. I understand why helis are the most efficient way to get VTOL - its all about rotor diameter!!! I'm not worried about stability on this design - I'm worried about safety if an engine goes out and being able to land safely because I can't autorotate int this thing. I appreciate your words of encouragement. Hopefully I can make it happen in a future design!
mrumsey40 2 months ago
The world will be a better place when commuters like you begin demanding mass transit of government and vote for the taxes to build it, instead of wasting even more resources and energy on solutions that only benefit you and do nothing to resolve the larger issue of how to move large numbers of people more efficiently.
prg4533 2 months ago
@prg4533 I wish that the mass transit from the early days of the 20th century hadn't been destroyed by special interests! I love mass transit when it is available. The problem is that building mass transit now is way too costly and we as a nation cannot afford it. My hope is that aircraft like mine will reduce the current congestion so that we don't have to build more roads OR mass transit...
mrumsey40 2 months ago
Being in the aircraft business for many years I have yet to see anything like this work as advertised. Your not the first by any means. I would have to see a prototype to believe it. Now that being said should you be able to show me a workable design I would be willing to devote my shop to building the prototype.
parkert51 3 months ago
@parkert51 The Martin Jetpack is getting close. It looks like they need more funding to go into production. While trying to raise funding for the design in the video, I realized this design would not have enough power to stay in hover if it lost one of its four engines. Therefore I'm working on a revised design. I very much appreciate your offer to build the prototype, however I feel it would be premature to begin building at this time. You will see a new video once I have a new design.
mrumsey40 3 months ago
@mrumsey40 I guess the term close is in need of being defined. After speaking with some people involved I was told that the longest flight the unit can make is 7 minutes. There is no auto rotation and an inherent instability problem. This is why the outdoor flights have been done via remote and a dummy on board. Wind of just a few MPH are extremely dangerous. I develop aircraft for a living and wouldn't consider martin close to anything.
parkert51 2 months ago
@parkert51 You are probably right about the wind. I still would like to try it and see! Regarding the flight time, did you get information about the Hiller as only flying for 7 minutes?
mrumsey40 2 months ago
And maybe next time, you will show one that actually flies. Ha-ha.
quemo2011 3 months ago
So, this is wishful thinking. Obviously you have not built or flown the device.
johnhi00 3 months ago
But what happens when SkyNET becomes sentient in a few ears?!?!?
JK! LOL
I hope it works out for you, man. We're one step closer to George Jetson's world.
Thaumh 3 months ago
Having not read any of the other comments (so I don't know if this as already been thrown at you), you have two issues against your design. 1.) What if it's raining and/or windy? 2.) People are idiots. This second issue is a problem which plagues EVEY 'flying car' scenario. Humans can barely drive in two dimensions, when sober. How can anyone expect us to drive well in three?
Thaumh 3 months ago
@Thaumh The ultimate flying car will be a fully enclosed VTOL aircraft that takes you where you want to go. You will not fly it and you will avoid other aircraft by a large centralized flight control computer, i.e. 'SkyNET'. SkyFly is a first step and if the wind is too strong or it is raining you just wouldn't fly. I agree that people are idiots and unfortunately someone will die because of that. My hope is that most people will realize that they need to be REALLY careful in one of these.
mrumsey40 3 months ago
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manipunation 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@mrumsey40 I have had similar thoughts on this idea for decades! I am sending the rest of my thoughts via a personal message as YouTube only allows 500 character posts.
manipunation 2 months ago
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manipunation 2 months ago
I too would prefer the WASP over this design. The problem is that the WASP will cost 10 times as much money.
mrumsey40 3 months ago
Not possible to fly any personal vehicle. The FAA will not let you and you can only fly it over areas uninhabited by humans. I have reasearched this idea before. Its a pipe dream. You would have to have the backing of an oil tycoon to even get anywhere. Sorry to burst your bubble but this device and others cannot be used in the air above the city.
Nice idea.
Hiv0ltage 3 months ago
There's nothing revolutionize about this... it's already been built and it's called the WASP and it's 100 times better than this
zero00tolerance 3 months ago
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zero00tolerance 3 months ago
THis is great! I am working on a levitation platform of my own based on vortex mechanics! :)
delphinny 3 months ago
Have you seen Bob Lazar's Corvette on Hydrogen?(Hydrite 6 actually)Light weight,can be powered by Solar and or wind power thus creating virtually free hydrogen.When working with hydrite it allows for safe as well as great compression .He gets just under 400 miles per fill up and he has gone from a proto type to begining full production.The price might come down as production rates increase.
GEORGE3573 3 months ago
@GEORGE3573 Sounds cool! I'll check it out!
mrumsey40 3 months ago
Cool
broccolihart1 3 months ago
That's AWESOME, I want 1
BUT, can you get it with AM FM MP3 player ? ;)
WulfBand 3 months ago
if all power lines were below ground this would work. Um...electrical lines do kill.
StoneBrookDeveloping 3 months ago
GET REAL.
G. FRONZI
9493760 3 months ago
ya guy been working on this for over 15years and his dont go either.,even though he keeps asking for money. top it off. you seen how people drive. i would not want them flying above me
brjema1 3 months ago
Great idea, however it is not viable in southern cal. The most important thing is not too many people want to stand up while they are traveling anywhere for the time you are talking about. Personally, I'd love to have one to use as a recreational vehicle, but I live in Oregon and the rain and snow suck when you have to face it without a cockpit. I have always been fascinated with the device you are talking about ever since I first saw it on some film when I was a kid. Cheers and good luck!
badmoonryzn 3 months ago
I actually have the same interrest and actually the same way of flying, I mean a flying platform, but actually I've got a great idea of lowering the level of noise and vibration....actually flying is every one's childhood dream, and every one has alittle child inside....well done, go on and keep us posted with the updates...goodluck
iscnd 3 months ago
if you know how to breath, you know how to fly.
Ru55ianGrim 3 months ago
The noise complaints would keep this thing grounded :|
TheDerpable 3 months ago 2
nice idea...hell I'd buy one. Good luck with this ;)
rickkmurray 4 months ago
I, too, have been thinking of some sort of compact VTOL aircraft for fast point-to-point transportation, with a maximum range of 100 miles and a speed of 50-100 mph. However, the fly in the ointment is threefold —
1. Communities may have restrictions on aircraft operations;
2. Noise from operating out of one's yard will bother the neighbors in the extreme; and,
3. Employers may not grant permission to land on their (private) property.
These problems may be insurmountable.
upajos 4 months ago
@upajos You are correct in all your 'flies'. My idea to overcome these issues would be to push the envelope with the rules a bit and see how much leeway might exist. Sometimes it is easier to ask forgiveness than to ask permission. Obviously you would need to be as considerate as possible regarding noise and other community restrictions but it will take some experimentation to get flying cars more mainstream...
mrumsey40 3 months ago
I own a machine shop here in South Carolina and my work is very slow these days. I'd love to talk to you about building them here.
Chuck
sc6chuck9 4 months ago
@sc6chuck9 Thank you for the offer Chuck! I really appreciate your interest in my project. Right now I'm back to the research phase of finding out how to generate more lift with a similar sized aircraft. I'll update you when I'm ready to build a full size prototype. I can't predict when that might be just yet. Thank you again!
mrumsey40 4 months ago
Why did you cancel the project? Maybe enlist the help of some RC experts and make scale RC version first to test your ideas.
MikeysRC 4 months ago
What prototypes have you built?
lukeo25 4 months ago
@lukeo25 I haven't built any physical prototypes. I did build a computer model that is dimensionally accurate and is a blueprint. Because I am back to the drawing board I do not plan on building the model you see.
mrumsey40 4 months ago
Well the first airline was formed 100 years before the wrights. I hope you get it working.. have you ever had it out of ground effect?
buzzy1147 4 months ago
Hey to everyone making negative comments, this guy is trying to make something work. So what If he just has a computer generated image, its expensive to make the whole ship, and I think its smart to make a visual prototype first, saves money. As a helicopter pilot I am familiar with high cost of operation. A few concerns with flying over the mountain range in a weight shift control system though. Like your thinking on a ballistic parachute.
innovative and cool man.
drumaboy 4 months ago
It is just a picture made by computer.
san42c02y 4 months ago
why not make the williams X-Jet its faster and operats the same way but it would be hard to get past the copy rights as the army are not letting it go to the publick
also why are you using a computer imag dont you have the craft you have made or dont you realey have it
rabone1963 4 months ago
Will the craft fly into the ground or flip in windy environments?
davepamn 4 months ago
Show it working or shut the fuck up!
Itsmeeman1 4 months ago
Show the real aircraft...not just a computer static simulation.
Could show some vertical lift?? How high does it fly and for how long and what fuel and speed and distance....so many questions.
A lot more than the facts for sure :-)
XRayCam 4 months ago
how much will it cost?
desirap 4 months ago
@desirap The idea was to have a retail price below $30,000.
mrumsey40 4 months ago
@desirap The idea was to have a retail price below $30,000.
mrumsey40 4 months ago
do you actually sell these because i actually want one
triplejayvideos 4 months ago
@triplejayvideos Thank you for your interest! I do not sell this model as I need to modify it so it has enough lift to stay in hover out of ground effect if one engine fails. Still in research and development mode.
mrumsey40 4 months ago
@mrumsey40
Same here, i'd love to be one of the first flying these, i don't care that people think it's stupid because soon enough people will realise that it really could be something.
when you're done with it please please pleeease upload some videoes!
yoimosan 4 months ago
Wind should not affect it too much. With a top speed of 65 mph you should be able to fly most of the time.
mrumsey40 5 months ago
Regarding the williams X-Jet, that is the ultimate design. Unfortunately it is VERY expensive. I'm trying to create something you can purchase for under $30K.
mrumsey40 5 months ago
I've thought of that too. The problem with that configuration is safety and what happens when one engine fails. You would have to tie all four props to all of the engines which could get heavy. You would get more performance and safety if you had coaxial counter-rotating blades that are the same diameter as the 4 prop arrangement. Google 'Gen H-4'.
mrumsey40 5 months ago
I like the design,but how about a quad rotor,electric,tube frame,pilot sits under 4motors and props, ballistic chute,software,gps have all been proven in RC versions so applying them to a single seat would be pretty easy.The quad rotor is very smooth.Any thoughts ?
inagod 5 months ago
bud you are wasting your time this is old technology look on you tube for the williams X-Jet
sorrey to be a killjoy but the williams X-Jet was made in 1975 and you will see your one is no where near it
rabone1963 5 months ago
@rabone1963 Don't be a muppet the $250,000 for a Williams X jet isn't falling out of your pocket today or any day
fizzguts 4 months ago
how does that fly in a good wind, how would it be affected by rotor
brandon79f150 5 months ago
I had the same dream but I woke up.
brotherkantutta 6 months ago 10
i typed and seach nothing shows up!!!
crazyryan 6 months ago
can it mow the grass?
crazyryan 6 months ago 5
I just checked out the Craig Vetter Air scooter contest. Pretty cool! I'm working on some new designs right now that will be safer. Hopefully I'll be able to enter the contest. Thanks for the tip!
mrumsey40 6 months ago
Have you seen the Craig Vetter Air scooter contest? Might be worth giving him a shot.
sageofjax 6 months ago
Stupid idea.
FiEctro 6 months ago
@nighthawk: it is FAA not FFA!
Jbray1023 7 months ago
I have to say, the FFA would probably never approve of this. it's a death trap.
NIGHTEHAWK 7 months ago
@NIGHTEHAWK it dosent matter who approves. what ways laws work in America, if its one person then your taking your own life into your hands. No license, no certifications. and no regulations.
MrABlinkin 7 months ago
@MrABlinkin You should read up more on Ultralights, they are HIGHLY regulated, and approved. I would also like to say, i get where your coming form with the, "It's one person on board the craft, so your risking your own life." Well, that's no true. Now, yes if your flying over farm land, perfect, your right. But with what you said to use this as, there's many MANY other people your risking, if you have catastrophic failure, what happens when you hit the city bus at terminal velocity?
NIGHTEHAWK 7 months ago
@NIGHTEHAWK My apologies they cannot be flown except between the hours of sunrise and sunset.
Ultralights may be operated during the twilight periods 30 minutes before official sunrise and 30 minutes after official sunset. The flight is only in uncontrolled airspace cannot be flown over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons.. In the US, no license or training is required by law
MrABlinkin 7 months ago
@MrABlinkin Correct, I have to say, it was a good idea. The ultralight thing just isn't right. If you still really want to make this, go for it being an LSA (light sport aircraft). You have to have a sport pilots license, but it's no biggy.
NIGHTEHAWK 6 months ago
@NIGHTEHAWK I don't think the Future Farmers of America care one way or the other.
upajos 4 months ago
@upajos -.- damnit i need to get out of that class... my bad.
NIGHTEHAWK 4 months ago
yeah i want to fly to! but its to expensive for most ways. i wish there was like a really compact and cheap way to fly. that wood b cool.
nikbajew 8 months ago
THAT'S GONNA CUT UP SOMEONE IF YA LAND ON EM ON AN "ACCIDENT" :-)
Acecombatgamertwo 8 months ago
Please advise what strain of dope you're smoking. It's got to be way better than the Kootenay stuff.
schlusselmensch 8 months ago
I don't have any funding to help but I can recomend that as soon as you have a working prototype, you should tour it around to local "Hackerspaces", air shows, and faires, like Maker Faire. You might also try to post this idea on "Kickstarter". It is a web site specifically design to help great ideas get funded. A hacker space might even help you build a prototype, but be careful. That ducted fan doesn't just suck air, it sucks MONEY.
Shakespeare1612 8 months ago
I was thinking maybe instead of adjusting your weight to control the craft maby a automatic system could be done, perhaps using weights that can move on 4 points?
ect and so you can even sit or have other stuff in your vehicle
MultiIPwnage 9 months ago
I support you 100% VTOL is the way! and you sir are the man that has the ideas!
Is there a site for this, blog? anything I just want to be up to date with your campaign!
MultiIPwnage 9 months ago
woah interesting
MultiIPwnage 9 months ago
the worlds greatest inventions were once considered impossibilities.. This has the potential to be one without question
7CavLucius 10 months ago
I think u r great for advertising ur dreams. I wish u the best. People who don't understand will always be limited to very narrow parameters in life. I am a dreamer too and the world needs us.
evanxlteks 10 months ago
you just saw it was fake. they just took the original consept fotoshoped it and put a lousy cliche story around it.
dreams will always stay dreams.
TheMrSpam 10 months ago
i'm just gonna let you know... you couldnt fly that over mountains.
gowill2 11 months ago
This sounds like a Ponzi scheme to me.
stormking14 1 year ago
Why did you leave out the ducted fan? The duct is what gave the Hiller platform relatively low power requirement and efficiency.
rammstefani 1 year ago
For some scenarios where cheap vtol is desired a short take off aircraft such as a "tweaked ultralight" offers many advantges such as faster speeds and more economical fuel burn and cost to operate. There is also no absolute need for multiple engines for safety. The flying platform usually are limited to about 35mph and need about one horsepower for every pound of weight to lift and will burn about 4 gallons of fuel for every hout of flight which equates to about 12 miles per gallon(eeecchh!!.
blastforyou 1 year ago
@blastforyou You are correct that the gas mileage is usually bad for VTOL aircraft. I am looking at some new designs to help get more thrust per hp and hopefully better gas mileage too. Thank you for your input!
mrumsey40 1 year ago
Hi m8, Im working on the same project, not exactly the same but similar to the hiller, currently i have 1 engine with 2 sets of blades but i'm lacking power so i'm intending using 2 engines like the hiller did. I'm only wanting 10 foot max off the ground and i'm building just for the sake of building but i wish you all the success in the world with your project. my duct is finnished and so is my frame but still a lot to do!
dianemr 1 year ago
Thank you for your comments. Just to let you know I canceled funding for this current design because of thrust limitations as well. I have some new ideas that I will test using scale models to see if they are viable. Good luck on your project!
mrumsey40 1 year ago
Dear Kind Sir. I estimate the initial retail price to be between $30,000 and $40,000. My goal is to bring that down below $20,000 once sales volume picks up.
mrumsey40 1 year ago
@mrumsey40 Sorry. I really like it. That's why I get passionate about it. My dream is to fly cheap too. I wish you the best of luck. God bless.
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