this is good rock music but it doesn't sound like the band that recorded 'Spreading The Disease' or 'Among The Living'. the majority of fans don't want their fav. bands to change.
I like Bush, but this video and song could explain why camp Anthrax was scratching their heads for years wondering why everyone seemed to have lost interest. Pit this up against "Fistful" or "Spreading" and it doesn't even sound like the same band.
Why is it that when their singer got heavier and more metal sounding (for the record I love belladona) that the music became less creative and more radio friendly. Whether you like this or not, it's not metal. It's radio-punk at best.
@dgarrr2 this is the only commercial song on the CD...please give a listen to the remainder of the CD especially "Tester" - Anthrax's response to grunge!
hmmmm good song but know one could replace the fucking voice of joey belladona, the anthrax i know to love made songs like: caught in a mosh, madhouse, indians and belly of the beast please people dont hate me i still like this version of anthrax
I remember this being the loudest thing you could hear on mainstream UK Radio/TV at the time. Still quite like it, especially the Husker Du type outro.
dime did 6 solos in anthrax riding shotgun, king sized off stomp inside out born again idiot off vol 8 and Cadillac rock box and strap it on off W.C.F.Y.A
What the fuck is this fuckin shit, as an original Anthrax fan i am so fuckin dissapointed and pissed off, first of all they need to fire this front man, because he`s boring and shit !!, replace him with somebody with some real fuckin fire in his belly and balls like the meanest motherfucker of a bull and a fuck you attitude to society and it`s rules, instead of mommy`s little helper, we also need to get back to the fuck you in the brain riffs that made Anthrax.
Sound of White Noise is awesome, but this album is pretty crap IMO. It seems every thrash metal band was trying to become radio friendly at this time and more "alterna rock" or whatever. Lest we forget what Metallica was like at this time. At least Anthrax retained 'some' of their thrash roots here.
actually the album features solos by paul crook dimebag plays the solos on i believe king size and riding shotgun and charlie plays this solo and a few others
@mhagan Actually, most of the solos were played by Paul Crook on this album. Dime played 2 and a half, Charlie played a couple and some harmony leads, and Scott did some various squeals and things. But the main lead guitarist was Paul.
This video is funny. At the time this was released there was this big scare and debate about farm animals with Mad Cow Disese and other conditions in Europe.
that was extreamly gay and way too mainstreem for a meta band. although i am glad to see john bush move on from an unknown band like armored saint to a relativley unkown band like anthrax
I love anthrax with john bush, Sound of white noise is one of my most favourite albums ever but this song fucking sucks......FUCKING SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rax on the albums with him on vocals. Shame he's not in the band now but at least there are 4 fine albums (plus the re recorded best of thing) to listen to. I like some of the older stuff like among the living but Bush owns Belladonna even on the older songs live.
Er no Bush beats the prancing headress wearing Belladonna anytime.I already mentioned "Among the living" cant you read? I have all the cds. ATL is good for sure but Belladonnas vocals are are limited & become tiring after a few songs. John Bush is one of the all time best metal vocalists.
man . this aint even heavy! i loved anthrax belladonna, an loved armored saint, but not to sure i like them merged together! bush got a dope voice though!
ehhh... this is poor! Where's the real Anthrax? And this is not TRASH! Maybe their stylename is still trash on the websites, but real trash are: Kreator, Slayer, Risk, Exodus, Sadus ...
writing the right name "THRASH" is just one thing, but smell the power of real t(h)rash is another, importanter thing... and if you say: this hard music... then you have a problem with the world of metal!
The word "trash" is in europa is popularer als "thrash". Sorry :) but this is true. But of course i known the word wrong! (and my english is shit, sry)
antrhax is a disease that can afflict the lounges, the skin and somewhere else that i don't remember.... the skin-type antrhax is very common in cows... that's why the video.... =D
this is not thrash and if you're a "punk rock drummer" then you don't have the authority to tell me shit... I've been into thrash since 1984 and everyone I know agrees that this is nu-metal garbage. go to the mall, kid
yes man, like I said I was there... it's just that this stuff is nothing to do with speed metal or hardcore punk. this is anthrax trying to be a part of the mainstream like metallica. this is radio music for mtv kids, not metalheads or hardcore punks. if you like this stuff that's fine but for me and everyone else I know it's a huge let down
Kill'em all? no way did you just use a metallica pun against anthrax. these bands have been best friends and comtemperaries since 1981. without anthrax, metallica could have have never done the justice tour and anthrax had to loan them equiptment for a year. No live Seattle 89. Anthrax rocks as hard as Metallica. but anthrax can do punk too.
What happened to his hair??? This is really,really bad. This is finished recording and it sounds this bad!!! Woah... And what happened to their 2nd guitarist???
na monnezza di video... peccato
benemeglioraimondo 1 month ago
one of the riffs sounds like feeders - day in day , we all know who came first ........
mikeg6545 1 month ago
how many lead singers did anthrax have im very new to anthrax need some facts
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Ai tempi di John, bella canzone, mi piace un casino!
themetalsky 2 months ago
AWESOME SONG!!! KIND OF GRUNGE STYLE
SYNYSTER264 3 months ago
this is good rock music but it doesn't sound like the band that recorded 'Spreading The Disease' or 'Among The Living'. the majority of fans don't want their fav. bands to change.
tournication 3 months ago
I like Bush, but this video and song could explain why camp Anthrax was scratching their heads for years wondering why everyone seemed to have lost interest. Pit this up against "Fistful" or "Spreading" and it doesn't even sound like the same band.
jaehaus 4 months ago 2
@jaehaus maybe they should have made a video for 'Riding Shotgun' instead
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It seams I can never hate this band :)
nonnv 5 months ago
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nonnv 5 months ago
grungeanthrax?
MrChilenoscio 6 months ago 2
@MrChilenoscio I was just about to write "grunge?" lmao
ItamarZ13 5 months ago
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ItamarZ13 5 months ago
when did Anthrax go Greengay?
theguy782 6 months ago
Why is it that when their singer got heavier and more metal sounding (for the record I love belladona) that the music became less creative and more radio friendly. Whether you like this or not, it's not metal. It's radio-punk at best.
dgarrr2 7 months ago
@dgarrr2 this is the only commercial song on the CD...please give a listen to the remainder of the CD especially "Tester" - Anthrax's response to grunge!
sepulthrax 4 months ago
this song is gay corporate alternative rock. that being said it's still fucking catchy as hell
FerociousAmbrosis 7 months ago 2
first time listening to this guy. not Anthrax. typical 90s shit rock band right here. Joey rules
Johnnyboy414 7 months ago
Oh my God, is this really Anthrax now, when was this released?
zeusofhull 8 months ago
@zeusofhull Its not Anthrax now, it's Anthrax 90's. Now Anthrax's back as belladonna is...
Bouljghard 7 months ago
@zeusofhull
This was the Shit-thrax of the 90's. Thank god they have that new song out now. MILES ahead of Stomp, Vol 8, and WCFYA...
themodernguitarist 7 months ago
@themodernguitarist shit???
ReDeViLWrath 6 months ago
Im a big fan of thrash metal but this sucks ass it sounds like Avange sevenfould.
I miss old Anthrax songs like Among the living!
luc00leh 8 months ago
great song, but Bush doesn't look right with short hair and weird video...
91nickt 9 months ago
what shit get a life never herd so much shit in my life !!!
andystag65 10 months ago
hmmmm good song but know one could replace the fucking voice of joey belladona, the anthrax i know to love made songs like: caught in a mosh, madhouse, indians and belly of the beast please people dont hate me i still like this version of anthrax
diabeticdrummmer123 1 year ago
THIS IS ANTHRAX? WHAT FUCK SHIT VOICE OF THAT BASTARD :@ :@ :@
tlozocarinaoftime 1 year ago 2
@tlozocarinaoftime this ain't Anthrax this sux
skyehoyt1971 11 months ago
@skyehoyt1971 ya know man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tlozocarinaoftime 11 months ago
Bush by far the best singer of Anthrax. To be honest, i can't listen to them without him
smd5150 1 year ago
stomp 442 def a unsung album for them one of my fav's fo' sho'!
roylwchez 1 year ago
Anthrax?
MrChilenoscio 1 year ago
Awesome song ruined by a HORRIBLE video.
drlarrymitchell 1 year ago 5
What can be said about Anthrax that hasn't been said already .. Hmm They Rock!!
overkill017 1 year ago
LOL john looks like Brandon DiCamillo
feedback47 1 year ago
It s a great video...only that..I dont understand the idea of the cow there lol...well, but ANTHRAX IS AN AWESOME BAND!! :D
Ammeba01 1 year ago
@Ammeba01 Atnthax is a cow disease
Danpungr 1 year ago
I remember this being the loudest thing you could hear on mainstream UK Radio/TV at the time. Still quite like it, especially the Husker Du type outro.
TheDrDig 1 year ago
@TheDrDig That makes sense. They actually covered Husker Du's song "Celebrated Summer". I just uploaded it a few days ago.
residualbill 1 year ago
i can't stop listening to this song
deathxmagnetic88 1 year ago
ROCKERS!!! PERIOD
mikeharley39 1 year ago
The lowest point of the band. Fortunately they come back with good albums in the last years.
ter50 1 year ago 2
dime did 6 solos in anthrax riding shotgun, king sized off stomp inside out born again idiot off vol 8 and Cadillac rock box and strap it on off W.C.F.Y.A
seintallica 1 year ago
john bush kicks bella donna´s ass for sure
ratbatblue555 1 year ago
okay the new anthrax sucks and to prove it is the fact that the musid videos with joey were awesome and now there music videos are about cows.......
xDYERSxEVEx 1 year ago
Anthrax is dead.
AntiEmoMegamoshForce 1 year ago
What the fuck is this fuckin shit, as an original Anthrax fan i am so fuckin dissapointed and pissed off, first of all they need to fire this front man, because he`s boring and shit !!, replace him with somebody with some real fuckin fire in his belly and balls like the meanest motherfucker of a bull and a fuck you attitude to society and it`s rules, instead of mommy`s little helper, we also need to get back to the fuck you in the brain riffs that made Anthrax.
thrillseeker70 1 year ago
is that john bush?
blueiris1402 1 year ago
Yes it is.
vio2112 1 year ago
Very bad german, but nice beginning :D
willes101 2 years ago
well - the german is ok ;-)
zwecklos23 2 years ago
It's weird, and not at all 'classic' Anthrax,
but I don't reckon it deserves the shit it gets, I reckon it fucking rocks, in its own right! :D
ibanezmancons 2 years ago
Sound of White Noise is awesome, but this album is pretty crap IMO. It seems every thrash metal band was trying to become radio friendly at this time and more "alterna rock" or whatever. Lest we forget what Metallica was like at this time. At least Anthrax retained 'some' of their thrash roots here.
vio2112 1 year ago
;)yeeeeaaa...
super!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
aniagniech 2 years ago
what the fuck is this????
DanteWhite 2 years ago
I assume you can't read, so I won't even answer.
Andabraud 2 years ago
what the fuck is you?
9egomurder 1 year ago
Bush is so so so amazing
LooKerHood 2 years ago
This reminds me of Bad Religion. Even John Bush looks like Greg Graffin. Not sure if this is good or bad though.
snupcho 2 years ago
Depends, Bad Religion is a pretty decent band.
ed2point0 2 years ago
grate song
supertoxicman 2 years ago
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this is like the worst song of Anthrax i hate John bush
EazyslashD 2 years ago
ah the bright and bubbly nineties!
manboy666marc 2 years ago
i am from a place nearby düsseldorf :-D
kackworschharry 2 years ago
I live on the same planet where dusseldorf is.
FenceShitter 2 years ago 2
the first sentence is: "somewhere on a quiet train station..." :-D not "somewhere on a quiet farm" :-D :-D
IRGENDWO AUF EINEM RUHIGEN BAHNHOF!
kackworschharry 2 years ago
i love this one. Its just a simple cool song. The video is fucking fucking weird though
AdammTheDude 2 years ago
Sounds and looks like a pop/punk band to me
daniz123 2 years ago
Makes my ears happy...
GWAILIN 2 years ago
...this sounds nothing like Anthrax
MrPie455 2 years ago
the solo is of scott?
jackwilsontube 2 years ago
yes
manudchief 2 years ago
nope. charlie B. whole album is his solos
mhagan 2 years ago
actually the album features solos by paul crook dimebag plays the solos on i believe king size and riding shotgun and charlie plays this solo and a few others
paulio4259 2 years ago
@mhagan Apart from the intro solo from Riding Shotgun which was Dimebag Darrell.
GoreBastard 1 year ago
@GoreBastard well, that is true. as well as he did inside out on vol. 8 and a couple of songs on we've come for you all!!
mhagan 1 year ago
@GoreBastard Hello Glen.
gazmetal 1 year ago
@mhagan Actually, most of the solos were played by Paul Crook on this album. Dime played 2 and a half, Charlie played a couple and some harmony leads, and Scott did some various squeals and things. But the main lead guitarist was Paul.
njcowboy78 1 year ago
It think it might be Paul Crook.
ibanezmancons 2 years ago
@ibanezmancons It's Charlie. He played the solo on this and Bare. I think of a couple other songs on this album too.
LOST687 2 years ago
@jackwilsontube Charlie Benante IS Anthrax!
cycobern 3 months ago
John Bush the best.
qwerte08 2 years ago 5
Bush is the man
rms5366 2 years ago 32
What a voice
husqvarnawrk 2 years ago 25
Even though it doesn't have that Anthrax sound to it, I really like this!
Jackoroth 2 years ago 4
IMO when Anthrax got John Bush they went for a more grungy, muddy sound. Kind of a let down comparred to the EXELLENT thrash metal years.
acefukkinfrehley 2 years ago 5
Not really liking this either, but stuff like What doesn't die and Only are excellent tracks that Anthrax made with Bush.
ToxicTrace06 2 years ago
Er, maybe they were just moving with the times. Can't stay in the 1980's for ever.
richj683 2 years ago
Great song from the world's most underrated band.
ECOOL76 2 years ago 5
it is a great song but the world's most underrated band is Anvil
beanday2 2 years ago
I want to see the movie but Anvil is hokey
ECOOL76 2 years ago
that's right man, Anvil are far more underrated than Anthrax!
tournication 2 years ago
me enamore inmediata mente de esta cancion cuando la escuche
jackwilsontube 2 years ago
the song rulez
BagsVoorhees80 2 years ago
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this song sucks they never should of shot a video for it. I like songs like What shouldnt die and Potters Feild
havok334 2 years ago
This video is funny. At the time this was released there was this big scare and debate about farm animals with Mad Cow Disese and other conditions in Europe.
ArgHamster 2 years ago
omg...isn't this anthrax the trash metal ?
SpeedMetalSymphony92 2 years ago 3
parece nu metal pero ta weno
y es anthrax no?
jackwilsontube 2 years ago
that was a band of thrash time ago. they change of genre but still sound pretty good, don´t you think? i mean, not this song, but...
numberone1990 2 years ago 3
wat they look like fags
mightywarriorx 3 years ago
Cows Are Fucking Br00tal!Awesome music Video!!!
FuckenOzzy 3 years ago
Which language does he speak in the beginning?
hamidmushtaq 3 years ago
German.
DiamondOz 3 years ago 4
the accent is lol
Skaldicgoth 2 years ago
is that john bush
killthenoob28 3 years ago
yea
DrShreddington 2 years ago
that was extreamly gay and way too mainstreem for a meta band. although i am glad to see john bush move on from an unknown band like armored saint to a relativley unkown band like anthrax
generalparsons 3 years ago
where'd the thrash go?
cartoonmarc 3 years ago 2
is crap in banda
insanealix 3 years ago
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Gay video... In fact... gay everything, fuckit :(
ERIK000000000 3 years ago
No NO NO.
Fuck your parents for wasting semen.
kefalonitis666 3 years ago
i agree, anthrax kicks ass, no matter what album- it's always amazing.
IxLOVExANTHRAX 3 years ago 5
Me gusta como canta Jonh Bush
y tambien me gusta mucho la cancion.
pero prefiero el anthrax mas clasico, mas rebelde, mas "metalero" con Joey belladonna
ademas creo que joey belladona es "EL HOMBRE"
para anthrax.
sin embargo no podemos restarle importancia a bush que tiene una voz increible!
y la cancion tambien :)
5 estrellas!
HeavyLap 3 years ago
I love this song! Cos' i sang it some years ago alive and lyrics means a lot of things here in basque country. John Bush rules!
paraisotaku 3 years ago 3
this is great
TimeDevil747 3 years ago 2
Nahhhh i dont like it.
HolySmoke14 3 years ago
music is very good,but video is shit
adyfitness 3 years ago
I didnt like this song when it was released.. but now... sounds fine.. not a great Anthrax but a good sound.
cafeina77 3 years ago
I love anthrax with john bush, Sound of white noise is one of my most favourite albums ever but this song fucking sucks......FUCKING SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sulfid6392 3 years ago
Totally agree!
jucabe 3 years ago
Good song & vid. John Bush rules and so do Anth
rax on the albums with him on vocals. Shame he's not in the band now but at least there are 4 fine albums (plus the re recorded best of thing) to listen to. I like some of the older stuff like among the living but Bush owns Belladonna even on the older songs live.
TrephineArtist 3 years ago 2
C'on we all nov Belladonna kicks Bush's ass anytime, haven't you hear Among the Living?
THat line-up is classic for a reason
mateowirth911 3 years ago
Er no Bush beats the prancing headress wearing Belladonna anytime.I already mentioned "Among the living" cant you read? I have all the cds. ATL is good for sure but Belladonnas vocals are are limited & become tiring after a few songs. John Bush is one of the all time best metal vocalists.
TrephineArtist 3 years ago
this dosent sound like metal?
hiyabuddy69 3 years ago
This video fucking rocks! Cows are so fucking metal!
Metallusman7 3 years ago 3
lol, you rock because that's so true. When I think 'metal' I totally picture cows. Thanks for saying it first \m/
goudaqueen 3 years ago
love john Bush!!!! john FOREVER
antonioappio 3 years ago
This vocal sux as hell. Belladona rox 100x harder and better
kittens85 3 years ago
man . this aint even heavy! i loved anthrax belladonna, an loved armored saint, but not to sure i like them merged together! bush got a dope voice though!
hungjudas77 3 years ago
hahaha john bush balding
adw315 3 years ago
Metal = COOL.
Emo = shit.
Metal music rules. lnl, ,lnl
ororkabebe 3 years ago 9
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Awesome!
Check this out new band:
Mixedbreed-Stupid ass kids
FdViv 3 years ago
Anthrax is only real without bella donna.
ratbatblue555 3 years ago 2
ARE YOU AN FUCKING IDIOT
jeanettebajs 3 years ago
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fuck you, bastard.
ratbatblue555 3 years ago
cows are the coolest animal ever...
deraickripper 3 years ago 3
I like turtles
tommygu444 3 years ago 6
this it`s not thrash for sure, it`s more like hard rock or grunge i think
fnm89 3 years ago
i agree!!!! it's not i saw in 80s
koszkuc 3 years ago
ehhh... this is poor! Where's the real Anthrax? And this is not TRASH! Maybe their stylename is still trash on the websites, but real trash are: Kreator, Slayer, Risk, Exodus, Sadus ...
HUNRainmaker 3 years ago
hjehjehjehje
how can you know WThell is thrash if you CAN spell THRASH rigth...
you are thrash... anthrax is thrash :)
deraickripper 3 years ago
writing the right name "THRASH" is just one thing, but smell the power of real t(h)rash is another, importanter thing... and if you say: this hard music... then you have a problem with the world of metal!
The word "trash" is in europa is popularer als "thrash". Sorry :) but this is true. But of course i known the word wrong! (and my english is shit, sry)
HUNRainmaker 3 years ago
These guys are Anthrax?
kornino 3 years ago
antrhax is a disease that can afflict the lounges, the skin and somewhere else that i don't remember.... the skin-type antrhax is very common in cows... that's why the video.... =D
chaosraizen 3 years ago
One of the best songs they've ever done.
One of the WORST videos I have ever seen!
drlarrymitchell 3 years ago
fueled is much better ^^
sepuku76 3 years ago
who the hell came up with the concept of the band playing on a cow?
adw315 3 years ago
great song indeed i've always loved all eras of this band the've had alot of variety which i love
seintallica 3 years ago
WTF!!! haha i forgot anthrax has had a few different singers, cought me off guard lmao
btw GO SALUBRIUS!!!!
JeffdetH 3 years ago
i prefer the old singer (joey)...
this isn't anthrax anymore...
ikkeweer0 3 years ago
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holy shit, this alterna-grunge is anthrax??? what is it about success, or the desire for it, that turns cool people into corporate dick suckers?
infrajerk 3 years ago
Are you stupid... this is still thrash, dumbass...
punkrockdrummer 3 years ago
this is not thrash and if you're a "punk rock drummer" then you don't have the authority to tell me shit... I've been into thrash since 1984 and everyone I know agrees that this is nu-metal garbage. go to the mall, kid
infrajerk 3 years ago
you do realize that thrash evolved out of a combination of speed metal and hardcore punk right?
punkrockdrummer 3 years ago
yes man, like I said I was there... it's just that this stuff is nothing to do with speed metal or hardcore punk. this is anthrax trying to be a part of the mainstream like metallica. this is radio music for mtv kids, not metalheads or hardcore punks. if you like this stuff that's fine but for me and everyone else I know it's a huge let down
infrajerk 3 years ago
i'm not saying that's it's anywhere near as good as a lot of their other albums... but it's still thrash, maybe a wimpyer version but still thrash
punkrockdrummer 3 years ago
scott ian is a goob-wad!!!!!
lifer420 3 years ago
Awesome song, awesome video, funny...
That's ANTHRAX
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is this supposed to be metal? it seems to me more like grunge.. metal dont need funny bands like them..
kill'em all...
smgakos 3 years ago
Kill'em all? no way did you just use a metallica pun against anthrax. these bands have been best friends and comtemperaries since 1981. without anthrax, metallica could have have never done the justice tour and anthrax had to loan them equiptment for a year. No live Seattle 89. Anthrax rocks as hard as Metallica. but anthrax can do punk too.
salubrius 3 years ago 6
Only Scott Ian looks like he should :D
Rotzflocke 3 years ago
why does Frankie look the most metal?
Bush looks like a Grunge dude, but he can still kick Kurt CO-BOOM'S ASS!!
skidrow75 3 years ago 8
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WTF Anthrax plays nu metal? Wheres the TRASH??
BanksAlan 3 years ago
funny you spell nu-metal right and thrash wrong. especially since this is NOT nu. it's hard rock. and it sounds GREAT!
mhagan 3 years ago
NICE COW DUDE!!1
PartyNiga 3 years ago
amazing song!!!!!!!
madguydrummer666 3 years ago
compare this song to ...Belly of the beast for example. And you will see that this song is realy ...nothing.
I realy realy miss Dan in Anthrax. Hes solos were great.
Desecration92 3 years ago
they went way downhill after danny spitz left the band he was apparently one of their key songwriters
napalmdeatho1 3 years ago
yeah but he became a Christian freak--so fuck him!!
THIS SONG FUCKING ROCKS!!
skidrow75 3 years ago
According to an interview on the metal-rules site, Spitz's work is on this album.
JosephKuby 3 years ago
Charlie is the "Key Writer" He writes all the music, and Scott writes the lyrics. Fact.
nervedamagedave 3 years ago
that doesnt make much sense tho
napalmdeatho1 3 years ago
stupid video, amazing song!
gothkragor 3 years ago
gothkragor moshed the correct.
spriggan10 3 years ago
Uh...I clicked on this vid to listen to Anthrax, not Bush...
saneasylum679 3 years ago
good song good album too, its just not really anthrax without the mosh parts though
pinchcrab 3 years ago
cows got anthrax. I wonder if Topps got their beef from this dude
tacoemall666 4 years ago
they dont even have hair
dickies04 4 years ago
This is bad....they should have never kicked out Joey...
Thrashkid97 4 years ago 2
Wtf, why does that guy talk german at the very beginning???
"Irgendwo, auf einem ruhigen Bauernhof in der Nähe von Düsseldorf. Eine ahnungslose Kuh leidet unter einer seltsamen Krankheit"
wtf???
Raouliboy 4 years ago
What happened to his hair??? This is really,really bad. This is finished recording and it sounds this bad!!! Woah... And what happened to their 2nd guitarist???
TheSwiech 4 years ago
He found Jesus (and watchmaking).
ArgHamster 3 years ago