Escape from Guillotine (Von Flue Choke): Redux 2010

[FiyaFlux]

Awesome video, watched this and then hours later was using it at training to effect.

[Randori]

It is shown here as ineffective and unlike Von Flue used it. Miesha Tate did it this way against Zoila Frausto and that is why she couldn't finish her with it. When VF does it he doesn't just sprawl. Go watch the video for the difference in technique.

[theguybelowmefarted]

are there any good places that teach 10th planet jiu jitsu in the san gabriel valleys?

[beargrylls3]

Awesome move. Almost got a big wrestler kid in it but forgot to sprawl out before leaning into him to choke him. My base wasn't far enough out and he just flipped me over and finished the choke. Thanks for the video, helped me see what i did wrong.

[YMBrant]

How much do those floor mats cost?

[mamba701]

what is "gi and no gi"?

[Flipstar117]

@mamba701 The gi is the traditional Japanese 'karate suit'

[djb12030]

The only problem with attempting this choke is the fact that when you press and sprawl it gives the man on his back the chance to get back to guard very easily. I have never attempted to finish this choke because I didn't want to give up side control.

[brentonpickett]

**WARNING** This choke works extremely well. I have an upcoming fight and my coach recently taught me this after I saw that you guys posted it. I've used it 3x in class and have actually choked my partners out... They said that as soon as they realized they were getting choked, they were out. You sort of don't feel it coming until it's right at lights out. I suggest tapping as soon as you feel the pressure on your neck.

[jas108]

@brentonpickett definitely...this choke is very dangerous

[thegodfather956]

Arie do you happen to have a belt in BJJ?

[np6796]

Hey Ari, I was rolling last night and tried this technique multiple times. When I locked up the gable grip my opponent kept sweeping me by pulling my head in and rolling me over. Any tips to keep base and finish the choke? Thanks buddy!

[groundnpound702]

@np6796 bring your knees up to his ribs to base if you feel like he's going to power you over his body. And when you feel balanced you can start the 2nd half of the technique by propping up. I'm no instructor but i hope that helps man.

[np6796]

@groundnpound702 Thanks man! I'll give it a try.

[groundnpound702]

@np6796 yeah, don't forget to drive you weight on him at your hips so you're not top heavy and easy to roll over. let me know how it works for you.

[Dvalb]

wow ari youve gotten buff

[Hurtman2000]

Great job guys! Thank you!

[UlfrIronwood]

Powerful

[zakerify]

could you please make a vid on showing how to do an arm-trap rear naked choke?

PS hello from Russia :P love your vids Ari, the best on youtube imo.

[ChicoBussa]

Good move

[TechniquePrevails]

Good to see YOU doing some more videos recently, Ari. Keep up the great work!

[ZenTheNomad]

2 of my favorite things: the Von Flue choke and not getting choked out by a Guillotine.

[ThaBigPicture96]

If you put enough pressure, can this choke prevent the person on bottom from bridging and then slipping the person on top back into half guard?

[Tigerplata]

Haha, Mooky! So weird to see you on here!

[Nookiee89]

if your in sidecontrol your already out of the guillotine just do pressure on his neck

[seronepk]

New editing!! thanks Ari!!!!

[ruteo1]

my friend did that also to me. I tought what is happening with my arm and after that i tapped.

[killaasasnipa]

how does this choke work, does it press on the neck, this looks kind of wierd and different then any other choke ive seen

[sstrunks8000]

@killaasasnipa You are pretty much jamming your shoulder into your opponent's throat.

[GuilleOrochi]

got it... thx!

[thegodfather956]

If you can man can you make a video about guilotine escapes cause i keep getting nailed with them :(

[pballakid]

is this a legal move in tournaments?? (i kno its a stupid question but w/e!)

[bjapan96]

got any on how to escape rear naked choke?

[ishnookie]

I'd like to ask since you were once a referee, have you ever been, or know someone who was punched/kicked by a fighter by accident during a fight or while a referee is stopping a fight?

i see it alot in UFC, fighters got soo dazed that they actually try to take down a referee, hehe hilarious!

[IKingsofleon]

do you guys have an escape from the arm triangle choke??

[mitsubishidiamante]

any vidoes of how to scape an armbar or triangle choke?

[Submissions101]

@mitsubishidiamante PLEASE search our data base on our site.

[jas108]

@Submissions101 hey can u guys show a vid on how to finish the arm in guillotine?when i roll i always get my partner in it but can never seem to finish it.i just end up gassing my arms out and he eventually pops his head out.

[groundnpound702]

@jas108 im no instructor so take this with a grain of salt but the guillotine is usually dont incorrectly by beginner students that like to muscle and wrestle their way into submissions. If you are on the bottom i suggest letting go and get back into guard. If you have your opponent in guard already make sure you have your forearm slicing into his neck and depending on which grip you use make sure your bicep is closing his other carotid artery. At the same time squeeze his body down wit ur legs

[TheRealTingAling]

@mitsubishidiamante i'm probably wrong but what i remember you clasp your hands together behind the back of their heads and pull up so they can't get leverage or something.

[Wrestlefan1]

@mitsubishidiamante the triangle is fairly easy to escape... or at least negate... what the triangle does it cuts off your carotid arteries which stops blood flow to your brain... (this is done when the arm thats in goes across the neck and the opposite leg wraps around the head)... so create some space and you should be fine... for the time being... this could be done by getting the hand thats on the outside of the triangle inside... that creates some space between his leg and your arteries...

[bretlynn]

Hi Ari please tell me how do armbar? LOL

[guccipurse]

@mitsubishidiamante armbar- spin clockwise. triangle- put your legs over the person. and pull back.

[magicdude814]

@mitsubishidiamante type in on youtube arm bar shoulder roll escape

[Submissions101]

@nizepart0519 what Matt Hughes did was not what we would call an "anaconda" choke. It WAS a head and arm choke but the set up of the arms was much different than an Anaconda. Look up his interview with Ariel Helwani and you will see.

[Fupper16]

Why would the guy just lay there on his back why not bridge or get half guard or just let go of the head?!

[Submissions101]

@Fupper16 Many people do let go of the head (that is the RIGHT thing to do), but some do not and just hold on or get caught holding on too long.

[ph33ric]

looks like u may b able to get rolld.

[Submissions101]

@ph33ric nope. See video of Von Flue vs Karalexsis

[gratesaga]

i learned this from the man himself. jason got me into submisson grappling. he runs a class in fresno at fka. i must say he locks this up so fast sometimes u don't have a chance to let go of the guillotine.

[Submissions101]

@gratesaga Jason is a great guy! We have an interview with him on Submissions 101.

[drukenhard]

I think I saw someone bust this in UFC 117......can't remember who....maybe Clay Guida?

[iamkris4ever]

i learned this in class a couple weeks ago :)

[Reyrocksall]

Thanks. This will come in handy in my next fight.

[Quiston]

is this only possible from a failed Guillotine?

i e do you need his arm over your head to make this possible?

[drpurple18]

@Quiston No, I don't think it's necessary as long as you still get your right arm under his left arm (or vice versa) as you see him do in the video. I'm not 100% sure though.

[Quiston]

@drpurple18 will try it next time i roll, i think the arm might be necessary though might be like a modified arm triangle

if you know what i mean

[goemon9378]

what's different about this redo compared to the first von flue video?

[Submissions101]

@goemon9378 better quality, explanation and angles (closer to see hand placement) as noted in the description.

[Quiston]

i find the Guillotine difficult to finish, i gas my arms out far to quickly any tips?, although i absolutly never try to get it from side control bottom. i instantly go into sweep/hip escape back to half/full guard...

this choke that you show in your video is brilliant so simple and yet extremely effective

[Submissions101]

@Quiston There are always tricks and tips to make the guillotine more effective, Marcelo Garcia is the master at it. Pedro Sauer also has some great tips on making it better.

[Quiston]

@Submissions101 thanks for getting back to me, yeah i remember watching a video of eddie bravo talking about marcelo garcia and he was saying that his squeeze was sick!

i will search out Pedro Sauer, thanks again

[ChrisL1100]

what about us mma guys can you mabye do a quick video on escaping guilitine in guard...? :D

[Submissions101]

@ChrisL1100 Please search our data base...they are already there ;-)

[Gray118]

Can't remember the last Submissions101 video with you in. It's good to see you back! Great video.

[irbb07]

i guess it would work but not as well if your partner is grabing u around the neck like in a gi a teen choke??

[leonidas74]

Hey Arie; Is there a gi version of the vonflu choke? Thanks

[Submissions101]

@leonidas74 This move isn't dependent on the gi and can be used with both gi and nogi.

[CravingGod]

I've done this many times. Most people dont expect it.  Great move.

[fatguyonthc]

When you have someone clinched up against the cage and you drop down to try for a takedown, a lot of people are quick to try to grab a guillotine. This is a great time to set them up for a Von Flue, since the cage allows you to control their hips and prevent them from pulling guard. You just have to make sure you are low enough on their hips or it can backfire and go pretty badly for you.

[XxPinoyBroxX]

iLove SUBMISSIONS101 VIDEOS I TRY SOME VERY AFFECTIVE SUBMISSIONS IN MY BJJ CLASS. THANKS ALOT

[allprosupplements]

Love these videos.

[ADdadirector]

Matt Hughes did something similar in ufc 117

[locatedmma]

@ADdadirector no?

[fatguyonthc]

@ADdadirector Hughes did an anaconda, just without locking it the usual way.

[aceofclubs546]

@ADdadirector Actually what Matt Hughes did wad not even closely related to this choke. Matt Hughes preformed a sort of modified-anaconda choke.

[LeedansParis]

Please, please, please. Arie, you're too smart to keep saying it wrong so please;

it's pronounced GI A TEEN choke.

Et ne me dis pas que c'est la meme chose.

[Submissions101]

@LeedansParis You can say it both ways my friend...look it up on dictionary dot come. I realize the French use the way you suggested...that's cool too ;-)

[LeedansParis]

@Submissions101

No Arie, you can't.

You can say you're putting sheets on the bed or that you're putting shits on the bed.

You can SAY either one but there's a big, big difference between the two.

[Submissions101]

@LeedansParis I can't believe I am having this discussion ;-) Ok, please explain why the dictionary has both pronunciations of this word in it? Merriam Webster has both. Some words are said differently around the world as they have been adapted in those countries. As is the case with words like tomato, schedule, or kilometer. If we can SAY both, then both are correct. A sheet and shit are different thank goodness.

[LeedansParis]

@Submissions101

I gave the sheet example because the French never say it right (ie; dog sheet).

It's a difficulty with pronunciation though.

You can say Royce instead of Hoyce if you want or Gill Lomy for Guillaume or Gee Off for Geoff but those are all mispronunciations. Guillotine is a French name and I gave you the correct pronunciation.

[LeedansParis]

@Submissions101

If you want to use American dictionaries as your guide to French names, I can't stop you, but it's bad form.

I only brought it up only because I have HUGE respect for your jiu jitsu and I wanted to keep you and all of those that follow you looking sharp.

PEAS AOÛT

[drpurple18]

@Submissions101 Well it is a french word so technically he's right, but it can still be said both ways. I've even heard fight commentators say it the way you do.

[FightDiary]

Its not a choke its a pain tap right?

[Submissions101]

@FightDiary nope...it is a strangle and will cause your partner to pass out if done tight. It isn't a pain move

[FightDiary]

@Submissions101 ok cool

[fatguyonthc]

@FightDiary Pay close attention to the trapped shoulder. There is a twist at the end of the move that makes the choke feel alot like an arm triangle. The trapped shoulder gets lifted up into the neck.

[KKangg]

I AM GOING TO USE THIS!!!!!!!!

[VenomMma]

Jason Von Flue is a Badass!! I hope he gets back on Track

[robocop1993]

favorite technique in bjj