Try a woman farrier - I do a lot of horses that "hate the farrier" and were abused in the past and are perfect angels for me. Even if you get a new, nice, guy sometimes the horse just won't trust him. If you get a woman sometimes it's enough of a change that they give it a try just because it's not a man.
oh bless him, hes standing there like 'look, see! my feet are fine!' some farriers can be really brutal. one kicked one of our minis so hard she fell straight over, ive never seen my instructor so angry in my life
aww poor lad he looks terrified, its as if hes reliving it when his hoof is up, hows he now you ever managed to get a farrier near him, bless him, its unbelivable
the horse is most surelly tramatized. he was either hurt by a unexperienced ferrier or beat. the animal is hold ing his hoof up and shaking . i would say the front feet were hurt at one time. a little kindness and a lot of time .like another trip by a ferrier would help the animal. in a couple of days . the horses trust of a person that looks like a ferrier is been broken
awww poor william :( some farriers can be a bit harsh. I had on that Kicked the shit out of my horse and I had to say this was enough and got another farrier that was trusted. that horse is TERRIFIED poor guy :(
awww poor william :( some farriers can be a bit harsh. I had on that Kicked the shit out of my horse and I had to say this was enough and got another farrier that was trusted. that horse is TERRIFIED poor guy :(
It looks like a mix of being scared and an ass at the same time. I've worked with horses that are just plain scared and they are beyond wild compared to him. It looks to me as "I am afraid, but I know if I keep this up I get my way." Stunning animal by the way!
oh my god that is so said and yet so sweet when he lifes his legs up as if he is saying"im good! dont hurt me! Im a good boy!" Oh i hope he is alot better with the farrier now.
Poor William. I have never seen a horse so scared in my life. Hard to imagine what had been done to him to make him so terrified. Very sad. He is so beautiful. I'm sure he's much better off getting his "happy shots" before being shod. :)
He just needs the shit longed out of him before he gets the visit from the farrier. LOL i had horses that did that too. And part of it is because he's tied up. I think if someone was holding him he would be behaving a bit better.
aww man, he's terrified! have you managed to find a farrier that he trusts yet? You could try getting your farrier out to see him without all his gear, just to pick up his feet give him a treat. Then slowly introduce him to the farriers equipment letting him bite, kick, paw etc at it rub them on him. See if you can go without getting shoes on go bare foot he may hate the process of having the shoes put on
That horse looks like he is carved from stone. He is a fabulous looking beast. It's a terrible shame that he is so scared. I hope he settles down and you find a guy that he can trust...
@TheCrazySpot he is a cart horse. he is bred to pull a cart and look incredibly flashy doing it. he could almost be a dressage horse but his hindquarters are taller than desireable and would make it difficult for him.
Probably this horse has been kicked by a farrier, in the stomach, or had a file thrown at him...some farriers can be very bad tempered, maybe the horse was pricked by a nail..he seems genuinely terrified, it is far more than ''naughtiness''..but sedation makes shoeing an expensive business..hope you can find a way round this.
schönes pferd.<33 das pferd ist ziemlich nervös und hat sehr viel angst. vielleicht sollte man ein anderes pferd zu es stellen, dann beruhigt es sich vielleicht wieder, ein pferd, dass die geräusche etc. schon kennt.
Awwe, poor baby. Looks like he's been beat to keep a foot up. =( Poor kiddo. Do you think it may help to have a horse that's completely calm with the farrier stand with him? I'm sure you've helped him along by now, but I'm curious if that'd at least somewhat help. Maybe have him watch a calm horses get worked on?
@87doofer The horse isn't lashing out, he's just restrained and nervous. He should LEARN not to associate humans with stress and the only way he can get through that is building trust and calm experiences through smart handling and patience...
had william got any better? If he hasn't, i would recommend getting chestnut trimmings (the trimmings from the bit of bone showing in between his two front legs) and giving the farrier them and the farrier just simply holding his hand out to let the horse sniff the scent and once he has, he should hopefully relax enough for the farrier to get near him and hopefully touch him :) hope this helps, x
You folks got to stop criticizing. William's owner knows very well what he is doing, and he is treating this horse very well. Someone else did this to William. I recommend you watch all of the videos posted by hackneysaregreat before saying such stupid things. And, Monica, horses are perfectly safe if tied on a short rope. Yes, they need love, care, etc., but they also must be trained to behave.
It's almost like - well, to me it looks like he knows he has to keep his foot up, but is shaking so hard due to the fear! Poor William. How is he doing now?
wow those look like muscle spasms if im not mistaken, even having your farrier out for just a trim and no shoes might work, but having your farrier drop by every time hes in the area to give treats if he can may help get your boy used to seeing him and make an impression that he wont hurt him
Aaaw, poor William :( I'm glad you respect his fear and do not force him into getting his feet done since he's so terrified. You're a good owner, I've seen so many people wrongly force their horses into scary situations. It's a shame whatever happened to him to make him so afraid.
i have to wonder about the person who could just stand there & film that poor animal in such acute distress. no, i don't wonder. it is purely cruel. he could have used at least some soothing words if not the closer presence of a trusted human. while i understand that this behavior was unexpected & so it could have proven dangerous to try to get physically close to him at that point, i don't hear even a breath of a calming word spoken to him. this is cold. heartless. shame on you.
good grief, i have never seen a horse that freaked out by a farrier. i would not feed him any grain or rich hay for 2 days prior to the farrier, plus give him natural tranquillizers such as skullcap herb, valerian herb, niacin iin very lg doses, inositol lg dose, and B1 thiamine in very lg dose or you could use a pharma one, but the natural ones, a whole handful of them, would really relax him nicely, i have done it.
first off I feel the need now to say that yes,I am only 20.I am not here to give any sort of training advice though.Every horse is different and it seems that this guy has had a VERY rough life before finding you.There's obviously a trust issue with him if you can trim his feet but no farrier can(hopefully anyone could see that no matter what age they are)I'd just like to say I think you are doing exactly what this horse needs.I'm glad to see this guy didnt simply get put down because hes afraid
poor horse knows what he is suppose to do and tries to do it even before a farrier gets close..how much fear must have been created him in to rise above his fear of shoeing? the people that handled him before you should have been ashamed.
you may consider barefoot...it is amazing how well most horses can do with simple trimmings, a mustang roll to the trim and no shoes
This is maybe a silly question, but was he sored before you rescued him? Is this why he hates the farrier? And also why he lifts his forelegs when anxious? :(
that was my though too when I saw the video of his first meeting with the horse. but I suppose even if the owner never knows he can find some way to help this horse out. Seems like he is doing a great job at that so far.
aw poor guy i had a gelding that was sort of like that i could only get him to stop by letting him lick my hand .that was the only way i could ever get him to calm down for a second in the cross ties
Ik weet nog dat ik op ponykamp was en ik liep met mijn pony door de stallen richting de rijpiste maar aan het einde van de gang stond de hoefsmid. Mijn pony stopt natuurlijk en kijkt bang naar de uitgang de hoefsmid had dit gelukkig door en stapte opzij zodat de pony hem niet meer zag. en ik stap dan door met mijn pony maar eenmaal buiten schiet mijn pony vooruit door gewoon die geur...
Aww poor boy! In situations like that, there's really not much you can do, except hope they figure it out for themselves, and don't hurt themselves in the process. At least he knew enough to not yank his head back and start freaking out about that! That's an absolute nightmare, and soo heartwrenching.
my horse is like this with the farrier too, but if you sing to her she falls asleep!! but you have to do it for the whole time otherwise she has another fit!!
We have a horse at the barn who is so conditioned to the farrier, if she sees him she'll hold her legs up in a progression! it's hilarious. She starts with the front right, holds it up for about a minute, then switches to the left and so on. It's almost as if it's so engrained in her, that she completely loses herself as she goes through these motions. That might be similar to what poor William is going through here, he kind of loses himself in his learned reaction. I can tell you love him :)
My horse arrived with shoes. I have him barefoot trimmed now, which seems to be working well so far. I have found that he does not like someone messing with his feet too much. Just wants a quick trim and that's your lot! He also responds to the farrier trimming him better than the barefoot guy, whom he kicked. I was advised by this person to have my horse sedated so he could do his back feet. I tried the farrier guy, just to check, and he was all trimmed up in 10 minutes. Horses are individuals
Ok I'm reading all these comments about this horse being abused, he was most certainly not. I have seen this reaction multiple times, yes the horse is stressed, lack off handling, and even just being exposed to a new situation, place or person can trigger it. Even with the horse becoming "trained" he can regress in an instant, especially if you don't get his brain to focus on you and your commands, and you allow him to ignore you. By sending the farrier away, you perpetuate the problem, not
Poor fella. He seems demented when the farrier turns up, I'm suprised he doesn't break free and bugger off. Hateful people have done sickening things to that poor fella. He may never be right, but at least he's now loved, which is what he deserved in the first place. Good luck to you William, we're not all bad! x
Im no professional, but how about you, the owner, approach the horse with objects associated with the farrier, things that smell like farrier, and desensitize him to them, before even thinking of asking the actual farrier to approach? One object after the other. Maybe its worth a try, instead of risking the farriers life...
Borrow some of the farrier's stuff while he/she is working on another horse (obviously something not in use atm).
Just an idea from an amateur, hope ive given an idea or two.
This is so terrible to watch. I believe your training and your care have been very well for both of your horses and worked out really well as I can tell from your other videos.
What I find remarkable about his behaviour is this "shoveling" moving and shaking of the forehand. I noticed this also in the very first video of him. I wonder, if he does that very often if he is in distress?
Under different circumstances, the use of his front legs is very much a form of "sign language", meaning totally different things in combination with totally different body and sound language. He really tries to communicate.
In this case, his extreme distress was very evident.
@hackneysaregreat what i see is a horse that wasn't exposed to this sort of thing early in life so now at his older age is frightened to death you start trimming hooves on a horse when they are just a young colt and even start putting a small keg shoe on them and you don't have these types of problems pretty simple actually
Bless his heart! He is terrified! We work with rescued horses and I've seen this many times. Awareness and compassion with lots of patient rehabit. Even then there are still a few we literally have to medicate to tend to their health and hooves. It's hard for the human as well! We love them so much and it breaks our hearts to see them be so stressed out.
Poor boy. Must've broken your heart to see him so afraid. I tell ya, what some people do to these amazing animals is unspeakable. Glad to hear you by yourself can do his feet, though.
oh my goodness lol. if my horses were that scared and were tied they would rear up and freakout and back up until they broke the halter, rope, or wall lol.
i love that you know straight away he was abused in the past. Some poeple would of blamed him and told him off, i feel so sorry for him here he looks terrified!
I just wanted to say that I've been watching your videos of William and he's absolutly stunning!! Poor boy didn't deserve whatever made him so scared of farriers at his past home! ): Good thing he has a good home now (:
i think doing what you did by working with him by yourself is good. it helps your bond between you too and makes for a happier william :) definite abuse case.... this really broke my heart
Have you tried just working with your own clippers on your own and doing his feet yourself when he is calm and relaxed. If you bought a new pair of hand clippers (that way they would only ever have your smell, and his as you use them). You can just work with him in his stall and just clip a bit off at a time. No overwhelming. And it's easy to do. It may not be professional, but it may help and it could help him get past it.
My mare gets the same way with vets. The smell of them gets her really nervous. I found out that they twitched her and put a chain over her gums to "subdue her" just to get her temperature. Then I met the most wonderful vet who did not use any restraint (unless needed for the safety of the horse and the people) and gave my horse some treats to distract her from anything she was doing.
blondie42685- Really? sedating him? What kind of horse person are you? Oh yea, you're not. Because anyone who actually knows about horses, abused or not and how to correctly train them knows that drugging a horse that is obviously terrified out of his mind of something will not train him to stand still for it the next time. You need to desenstize him and teach him that the ferrier will not hurt him. Not jump at a quick and often dangerous solution of drugs. Thats just ridiculous.
We had a ferrier that hit our quarter horse with a hammer on his shoulder when he would act up. We stupidly gave him a second chance well our quarter horse got so ferious with the ferrier that he broker the cross ties actually ripped them out of the wall and cornered the ferrier kicking at him. Good thing we were there otherwise the guy would have been walking out in a body bag.
Wow, he's really upset and you could tell he was ready for a fight. I hope you can convince him that not all farriers are bad, but it might take a long time.
Oh poor thing! I totally empathize with you and him - I have a mare that was abused badly in the past. There is no way in hell he wasn't tormented by a farrier - he's displaying extreme displacement behavior, especially in the waving of his foot. This is clearly not a case of a merely flighty horse.
It'll take a lot of time and a LOT of patience but you and him can get over this! Good luck!
This was totally unexpected behaviour for what I thought was a very experienced horse, which I wished to document as prove what farrier abuse could mean to a horse.
I ended the session and did put him back in his stable inmediately, without trying to have him shod at all.
@hackneysaregreat Hi, not trying to be a know-it-all but, putting him up was not the best thing to do. It just taught the horse to throw a temper tamtrum and he will get his way and go back to his stall (safe place). The best thing to do is to have your farrier aproach and rub his head and neck and then retreat. Keep having him do this until the horse learns that he wont get hurt. This may take days or weeks but the horse will learn to trust that farrier.Hope I could help.
@itwasallgoodinthe70s seriously ? the horse is terrified !!! he is not having a temper tantrum. do not dole out advice, you clearly have no idea. this is not a simple case of getting a horse used to the farrier, which is plain to see by anyone who knows horses in the slightest.
@meink09 Well lets see. I happen to train horses for a living in Ocala FL. (horse capiton of the world) as it's known. I have trained over 3500 horses and have traveled the world giving clinics for 30+ years. I am close friends of many well known high profile trainers and I was simply giving advice on how to calm a horse. FREE advice that I usually sucessfully charge good money for. Approach and retreat is well known and VERY proven tactic that works for horses but not unintellegett owners.
@CanYouAffordObama just the smell of the farrier has terrified this horse, how is the farrier going to get close enough to touch him ? of course the logical route is to slowly get the horse used to the farrier, but this is very severe case from what i can see. and that advice you gave ? little kids at pony club know that... putting it into practice is a whole different story. i find it very hard to believe that you are as successful a trainer as you say you are.
it is much safer to keep him tied. if you untied a horse in that state of panic he would bolt, quite likely injuring himself on obstacles along the way, and possibly run onto a road. my gelding had a freak-out recently over a tarp, and believe me, if he had been loose he would have killed himself galloping through the fence trying to get away from it.
I love the knowing comments of these 15-19 year old kids, giving training advice based on the minute of film they see here. Obviously they've never dealt with horses who were abused badly (I mean hit, hurt).
@NandiniJT I think you better watch yourself- cause i happen to be 15,not only did i not know how to ride i knew nothing about horses when i bought my boy- i took lessons for 6 months after i had him for a year, before i broke him. its people like you that make me loose all respect for older generations, and my friends barn , who is younger than me, has worked with many rescue ponies, and they are amazing ponies today, yes some young people run their mouthes but others actually have experiences.
take those damn shoes off; let the horse smell the instruments, make friends with him first; put him in a round pen with a lead rope; so he doens't feel trapped; slowly pick up feet just hold them -- probably will nhave to do a little bit at a time like once a week for say a month so he can start trust. HTe owner has to pick his feet up regularly on a daily basis.
What shes saying could help him in the long run. If hes scared of farriers dont tie him up. let them go out in a pasture where hes comfortable. its awful that he was abused but by working with him slowly he might trust them again. i dont mean this to be rude. i just wanted to add a suggestion. good luck. hes a beautiful horse.
Reading horse body language is like the number one thing you should do. If the horse looks destressed comfort him with cookies or talkig to him. Dont think just letting him stand there scared out of his mind is guna help him in the longrun. You need to treat him and show him that when the farrier approaches is a good thing.Let the farrier feed him cookies and talk to him and stuff. It helps
as a farrier that horse needs to be untied and have sympathetic handling his front foot movement can be explained as simply looking for comfort and why would you film his distress rather than help him
Thank you, I physically hold my horses all the time while my horses are being shoed even with my horses that dont even care and would rather fall asleep
oh, he's so adorable. Is he still afraid? maybe take him of the concrete next time, because I have a similar experiance on concrete which nearly killed my horses, again it was completley unexpected.
Poor baby! :(
Nizingur 1 week ago
poor guy is terrified... :(
Heather9196 1 week ago
Try a woman farrier - I do a lot of horses that "hate the farrier" and were abused in the past and are perfect angels for me. Even if you get a new, nice, guy sometimes the horse just won't trust him. If you get a woman sometimes it's enough of a change that they give it a try just because it's not a man.
candypaddle 1 week ago
Do you think he was sored in the past or had to bear "big lick"? I wish you all the best vor William. It makes me sad to see what he has to stand.
FrauZazoo 1 week ago
oh bless him, hes standing there like 'look, see! my feet are fine!' some farriers can be really brutal. one kicked one of our minis so hard she fell straight over, ive never seen my instructor so angry in my life
emilywren1993 2 weeks ago
aww poor guy beautiful and i luv how he shakes his legs once at a time its cute and funny and i feel really bad for him:(
101jumpergirl101 2 weeks ago
I've never seen a horse so terrified! He is like shaking!!!!!
smashingpumification 2 weeks ago
aww poor lad he looks terrified, its as if hes reliving it when his hoof is up, hows he now you ever managed to get a farrier near him, bless him, its unbelivable
understood448 2 weeks ago
the horse is most surelly tramatized. he was either hurt by a unexperienced ferrier or beat. the animal is hold ing his hoof up and shaking . i would say the front feet were hurt at one time. a little kindness and a lot of time .like another trip by a ferrier would help the animal. in a couple of days . the horses trust of a person that looks like a ferrier is been broken
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awww poor william :( some farriers can be a bit harsh. I had on that Kicked the shit out of my horse and I had to say this was enough and got another farrier that was trusted. that horse is TERRIFIED poor guy :(
xxkasforeverxx 2 weeks ago
awww poor william :( some farriers can be a bit harsh. I had on that Kicked the shit out of my horse and I had to say this was enough and got another farrier that was trusted. that horse is TERRIFIED poor guy :(
xxkasforeverxx 2 weeks ago
that is Anxiety attack at its worst. Poor guy.
shipwreckedfarms 3 weeks ago
It looks like a mix of being scared and an ass at the same time. I've worked with horses that are just plain scared and they are beyond wild compared to him. It looks to me as "I am afraid, but I know if I keep this up I get my way." Stunning animal by the way!
jmaritz328 1 month ago
oh my god that is so said and yet so sweet when he lifes his legs up as if he is saying"im good! dont hurt me! Im a good boy!" Oh i hope he is alot better with the farrier now.
DefyingxXxGravity 1 month ago 2
Poor William. I have never seen a horse so scared in my life. Hard to imagine what had been done to him to make him so terrified. Very sad. He is so beautiful. I'm sure he's much better off getting his "happy shots" before being shod. :)
whitewolfe001 1 month ago
aaaw bless him :( How's he doing now a days?
abbimcgx 1 month ago
Him waving his feet like that reminds me of someone withdrawing and shaking a burnt hand. I hate to think a farrier burned that wonderful creature.
I have watched other vids and saw where he did better but not great with later farrier visits. How is he doing with that now?
yzetta 1 month ago
He just needs the shit longed out of him before he gets the visit from the farrier. LOL i had horses that did that too. And part of it is because he's tied up. I think if someone was holding him he would be behaving a bit better.
KCC62BRx 1 month ago
Wow a beautiful horse & a shame to see him so upset :( please excuse my ignorance but what was he doing with his leg?
moonbar33 1 month ago
sniff sniff sooooo sad!!!
feathersinerhar52 1 month ago
awwww i feel so sad for the horse, i know that he has to get it dine cause thoughs hoofs are bad but he looks soooo scared:(
maxi2odie 1 month ago
aww man, he's terrified! have you managed to find a farrier that he trusts yet? You could try getting your farrier out to see him without all his gear, just to pick up his feet give him a treat. Then slowly introduce him to the farriers equipment letting him bite, kick, paw etc at it rub them on him. See if you can go without getting shoes on go bare foot he may hate the process of having the shoes put on
tindallster 1 month ago
aww he like " just take my leg and get it done and over with!"
rockandroll345 1 month ago
That horse looks like he is carved from stone. He is a fabulous looking beast. It's a terrible shame that he is so scared. I hope he settles down and you find a guy that he can trust...
jbwbadmf 1 month ago
Is he a dressage horse?
Just wondering lol.
He is very VERY pretty.
TheCrazySpot 2 months ago
@TheCrazySpot he is a cart horse. he is bred to pull a cart and look incredibly flashy doing it. he could almost be a dressage horse but his hindquarters are taller than desireable and would make it difficult for him.
SombraWolf24 1 month ago
when the people doesn´t know anything about horses....poor little horse
reconparafrog 2 months ago
wow I've never seen a horse do that in my life. That's horrible he's really that scared. :'(
bacardi5277 2 months ago
What a stunning horse. Shame he's so nervous, though. Did he eventually come around about farriers, so that he could get proper care for his hooves?
UberMan5000 2 months ago
Probably this horse has been kicked by a farrier, in the stomach, or had a file thrown at him...some farriers can be very bad tempered, maybe the horse was pricked by a nail..he seems genuinely terrified, it is far more than ''naughtiness''..but sedation makes shoeing an expensive business..hope you can find a way round this.
Oakleaf700 2 months ago
schönes pferd.<33 das pferd ist ziemlich nervös und hat sehr viel angst. vielleicht sollte man ein anderes pferd zu es stellen, dann beruhigt es sich vielleicht wieder, ein pferd, dass die geräusche etc. schon kennt.
Marina32284 2 months ago
Awwe, poor baby. Looks like he's been beat to keep a foot up. =( Poor kiddo. Do you think it may help to have a horse that's completely calm with the farrier stand with him? I'm sure you've helped him along by now, but I'm curious if that'd at least somewhat help. Maybe have him watch a calm horses get worked on?
C00kieM0nster07 2 months ago
@87doofer The horse isn't lashing out, he's just restrained and nervous. He should LEARN not to associate humans with stress and the only way he can get through that is building trust and calm experiences through smart handling and patience...
maneakararehe 2 months ago
some horses just don't like to be shod.
ex1le444 2 months ago
ce cheval est terrifié sa se voit nettement a sa façon d'agir et au son de sa respiration qui est tres prononcé
TheMarielea 2 months ago
I love this horse! I want him!
idetermined 2 months ago
awhh bless him! Could you not perhaps try sedation?
TheWatchitt 2 months ago
awww poor Will! he looks terrified! :( dead pretty though <3
xhorseandjumploverx 2 months ago 9
just goes to show that horses do remember EVERY bad thing that's happened to them. poor lad, stunning though!
kaboomItsJess 2 months ago
maybe you should be holding him rather than have him tied against a wall.. constant walking, rather than "pinning" him near a "predator"
maneakararehe 2 months ago
@maneakararehe That could end very, very badly. Anybody near that horse would make it believe the person is preparing to do something nasty to it.
87doofer 2 months ago
aww he looks terrifeid yet beautiful x.
djb1997horsemad 2 months ago
he's dancing :D
XxHeelsDownxX 2 months ago
aww pour baby
secretlove2100 2 months ago
had william got any better? If he hasn't, i would recommend getting chestnut trimmings (the trimmings from the bit of bone showing in between his two front legs) and giving the farrier them and the farrier just simply holding his hand out to let the horse sniff the scent and once he has, he should hopefully relax enough for the farrier to get near him and hopefully touch him :) hope this helps, x
loretolassy18 2 months ago
poor WIlliam, Hopefully he learns his new owners and farrier are just trying to do good
laureah21 2 months ago
is this horse scared or somthing
jsschipp4 2 months ago
You folks got to stop criticizing. William's owner knows very well what he is doing, and he is treating this horse very well. Someone else did this to William. I recommend you watch all of the videos posted by hackneysaregreat before saying such stupid things. And, Monica, horses are perfectly safe if tied on a short rope. Yes, they need love, care, etc., but they also must be trained to behave.
TheWirdbird 2 months ago
what the he'll you can't just leave a horse on a short rope they need love and care and lots of exercise the poor thing is scared to death
monicaloveshorses1 2 months ago
obviously you haven't taken the time to prepare him for this.
lesleybrookes 2 months ago
this is so very hard to watch, he is terrfied, what the hell did he go through with the other ferriers.
LeslieWest224 2 months ago
It's almost like - well, to me it looks like he knows he has to keep his foot up, but is shaking so hard due to the fear! Poor William. How is he doing now?
NebetSeta 2 months ago 23
awwwwww! poor fella! hope he got through it in the end! <3 :')
Noxamfox 2 months ago
Another reason I don't like to shoe on concrete, and that tie so low wasn't helping either. But what a handsome rascal. Hope he is all better now.
ThePonycobbler 3 months ago
is this in holland
TheKhatanahlya 3 months ago
wow those look like muscle spasms if im not mistaken, even having your farrier out for just a trim and no shoes might work, but having your farrier drop by every time hes in the area to give treats if he can may help get your boy used to seeing him and make an impression that he wont hurt him
com8897 3 months ago
poor guy ): has a farrier EVER hurt or scared him at all? i hope he isn't so afraid anymore
animalLuverify 3 months ago
poor William so sad :(
Lemony1980 3 months ago
Poor boy. I hate to think what they must have done to him to make him this scared.
ZombieRant 3 months ago
Doesn't it just make you so mad that someone did this to this horse? He doesn't want to be afraid...he had no choice. Sad.
peppiluv1 3 months ago
:-)
ericgoujon 3 months ago
Aaaw, poor William :( I'm glad you respect his fear and do not force him into getting his feet done since he's so terrified. You're a good owner, I've seen so many people wrongly force their horses into scary situations. It's a shame whatever happened to him to make him so afraid.
shiiuza 4 months ago
i have to wonder about the person who could just stand there & film that poor animal in such acute distress. no, i don't wonder. it is purely cruel. he could have used at least some soothing words if not the closer presence of a trusted human. while i understand that this behavior was unexpected & so it could have proven dangerous to try to get physically close to him at that point, i don't hear even a breath of a calming word spoken to him. this is cold. heartless. shame on you.
agnescopperfield 4 months ago
Beautiful horse!
Nickelbot1 4 months ago
awk hes so gorgeous, what breed is he, he looks like hes tryna be a dj :P xx
mizzrandom22x 4 months ago
Aww bless =[ The horse i share is scared of the farrier aswell. Do you know what happened to him to make him like that?
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Dooooodle 4 months ago
good grief, i have never seen a horse that freaked out by a farrier. i would not feed him any grain or rich hay for 2 days prior to the farrier, plus give him natural tranquillizers such as skullcap herb, valerian herb, niacin iin very lg doses, inositol lg dose, and B1 thiamine in very lg dose or you could use a pharma one, but the natural ones, a whole handful of them, would really relax him nicely, i have done it.
bayyliner 5 months ago
Has he ever recovered from this, I wonder.
LadyJennivieve 5 months ago
first off I feel the need now to say that yes,I am only 20.I am not here to give any sort of training advice though.Every horse is different and it seems that this guy has had a VERY rough life before finding you.There's obviously a trust issue with him if you can trim his feet but no farrier can(hopefully anyone could see that no matter what age they are)I'd just like to say I think you are doing exactly what this horse needs.I'm glad to see this guy didnt simply get put down because hes afraid
RideLifeAway 5 months ago
What is his breed? and why is he scared of the farrier?
Kaliegrl67 5 months ago
poor horse knows what he is suppose to do and tries to do it even before a farrier gets close..how much fear must have been created him in to rise above his fear of shoeing? the people that handled him before you should have been ashamed.
you may consider barefoot...it is amazing how well most horses can do with simple trimmings, a mustang roll to the trim and no shoes
captbarbosa74 5 months ago
This is maybe a silly question, but was he sored before you rescued him? Is this why he hates the farrier? And also why he lifts his forelegs when anxious? :(
traineeangel 5 months ago
@traineeangel
that was my though too when I saw the video of his first meeting with the horse. but I suppose even if the owner never knows he can find some way to help this horse out. Seems like he is doing a great job at that so far.
RideLifeAway 5 months ago
When my friends horse first had his farrier come, he was terrified.
So me and my other friends made a giant hey net for him and wa-la! he didn't even know he was there ;]
BunnyzAreHot 5 months ago
Wtf's he doing with his hoof?
JessayJxox 6 months ago
aw poor guy i had a gelding that was sort of like that i could only get him to stop by letting him lick my hand .that was the only way i could ever get him to calm down for a second in the cross ties
saddlebredhorsegirl 6 months ago
0:30 it's almost as if he's saying: Hey you over there! See this hoof? You're not touching it!
Bless him though.
bearbearbethany 6 months ago
Ik weet nog dat ik op ponykamp was en ik liep met mijn pony door de stallen richting de rijpiste maar aan het einde van de gang stond de hoefsmid. Mijn pony stopt natuurlijk en kijkt bang naar de uitgang de hoefsmid had dit gelukkig door en stapte opzij zodat de pony hem niet meer zag. en ik stap dan door met mijn pony maar eenmaal buiten schiet mijn pony vooruit door gewoon die geur...
Nacieee 6 months ago
Aww poor boy! In situations like that, there's really not much you can do, except hope they figure it out for themselves, and don't hurt themselves in the process. At least he knew enough to not yank his head back and start freaking out about that! That's an absolute nightmare, and soo heartwrenching.
Very handsome boy, though!
Spriteremix88 6 months ago
he's gorgeous!
my horse is like this with the farrier too, but if you sing to her she falls asleep!! but you have to do it for the whole time otherwise she has another fit!!
TheMrsloganlerman 7 months ago
the 4 people who didnt like this video are just mad because their horses wont try to shake hands like this one
vbrewer92 7 months ago
i'd drug that mother fucker!!!!!!!!!!!!
nyngan1000 7 months ago
Aweh poor horse! is he stressed or something? does he usually do that shaking wiht his front leg? :/
JumpingSneak3 8 months ago
that poor thing he is totally terrified i would beat the ferrier who beat my horse i dont play that crap no body hits my horse and gets away with it
cowgirlbubbleskc 8 months ago
u should of calmed him down insted of videoing him
dubstarrotts 10 months ago
you should have been talking to him poor baby he was shaking
RAPPIEMYBABY 10 months ago
We have a horse at the barn who is so conditioned to the farrier, if she sees him she'll hold her legs up in a progression! it's hilarious. She starts with the front right, holds it up for about a minute, then switches to the left and so on. It's almost as if it's so engrained in her, that she completely loses herself as she goes through these motions. That might be similar to what poor William is going through here, he kind of loses himself in his learned reaction. I can tell you love him :)
MysweetAnnabelle53 10 months ago
My horse arrived with shoes. I have him barefoot trimmed now, which seems to be working well so far. I have found that he does not like someone messing with his feet too much. Just wants a quick trim and that's your lot! He also responds to the farrier trimming him better than the barefoot guy, whom he kicked. I was advised by this person to have my horse sedated so he could do his back feet. I tried the farrier guy, just to check, and he was all trimmed up in 10 minutes. Horses are individuals
gwyn1971 10 months ago
@megloveshorses No. He's saying the horse in Sluddy87's story was being tortured. The comment above.
ExtremeMules 11 months ago
did he get better or are you doing is shoes yourself? he is beautiful btw
Adara011 11 months ago
Oh, this breaks my heart! I can't imagine what he's been through to be so terrified. :( So glad he's found a wonderful home with you!
Hounded87 11 months ago
It`s sad to see such a beautiful horse be so fearful. I hope he`s doing well now!
inmypantsify 11 months ago
That's a big boy, it would be quite hard to shoe this fellow
pcc483 1 year ago
I've never heard a horse make that sound
xShadowxPhoenix 1 year ago
This horse was never broken at the youth. Today not much can be done.
I believe he is not broken in under the saddle as well
wlodzio47 1 year ago
Ok I'm reading all these comments about this horse being abused, he was most certainly not. I have seen this reaction multiple times, yes the horse is stressed, lack off handling, and even just being exposed to a new situation, place or person can trigger it. Even with the horse becoming "trained" he can regress in an instant, especially if you don't get his brain to focus on you and your commands, and you allow him to ignore you. By sending the farrier away, you perpetuate the problem, not
CrystalArabians 1 year ago
Poor fella. He seems demented when the farrier turns up, I'm suprised he doesn't break free and bugger off. Hateful people have done sickening things to that poor fella. He may never be right, but at least he's now loved, which is what he deserved in the first place. Good luck to you William, we're not all bad! x
kaeso100 1 year ago
Beautiful horse by the way
RandomPresence 1 year ago
Im no professional, but how about you, the owner, approach the horse with objects associated with the farrier, things that smell like farrier, and desensitize him to them, before even thinking of asking the actual farrier to approach? One object after the other. Maybe its worth a try, instead of risking the farriers life...
Borrow some of the farrier's stuff while he/she is working on another horse (obviously something not in use atm).
Just an idea from an amateur, hope ive given an idea or two.
RandomPresence 1 year ago
@RandomPresence sorry, posted before knowing you'd fixed the problem
RandomPresence 1 year ago
This is so terrible to watch. I believe your training and your care have been very well for both of your horses and worked out really well as I can tell from your other videos.
What I find remarkable about his behaviour is this "shoveling" moving and shaking of the forehand. I noticed this also in the very first video of him. I wonder, if he does that very often if he is in distress?
Brocanna 1 year ago 21
@Brocanna
Under different circumstances, the use of his front legs is very much a form of "sign language", meaning totally different things in combination with totally different body and sound language. He really tries to communicate.
In this case, his extreme distress was very evident.
hackneysaregreat 1 year ago
@hackneysaregreat what i see is a horse that wasn't exposed to this sort of thing early in life so now at his older age is frightened to death you start trimming hooves on a horse when they are just a young colt and even start putting a small keg shoe on them and you don't have these types of problems pretty simple actually
APBTisBeast 5 months ago
Bless his heart! He is terrified! We work with rescued horses and I've seen this many times. Awareness and compassion with lots of patient rehabit. Even then there are still a few we literally have to medicate to tend to their health and hooves. It's hard for the human as well! We love them so much and it breaks our hearts to see them be so stressed out.
drwill1313 1 year ago
that is a huge horse!
metalistR1 1 year ago
that is a huge horse!
metalistR1 1 year ago
Poor boy. Must've broken your heart to see him so afraid. I tell ya, what some people do to these amazing animals is unspeakable. Glad to hear you by yourself can do his feet, though.
EdgyEquestrian 1 year ago 5
@EdgyEquestrian
It was a total surprise, as I expected him to be a quiet and experienced horse with a farrier.
He proved to be very experienced in extremely abusive treatment by farriers.
hackneysaregreat 1 year ago
@hackneysaregreat why is your horse so fearful of farriers? what happened to him?
and have you succeeded in making that fear disappear ever since?
litia 1 year ago
oh my goodness lol. if my horses were that scared and were tied they would rear up and freakout and back up until they broke the halter, rope, or wall lol.
horseluvor4 1 year ago
Poor fellow! He's trembling. He needs time and gentle retraining to regain his trust in that area.
theKrystalcharm 1 year ago
i love that you know straight away he was abused in the past. Some poeple would of blamed him and told him off, i feel so sorry for him here he looks terrified!
chachahorse 1 year ago
I just wanted to say that I've been watching your videos of William and he's absolutly stunning!! Poor boy didn't deserve whatever made him so scared of farriers at his past home! ): Good thing he has a good home now (:
phunkyyall 1 year ago
poor babe :-(
BiSe84 1 year ago
i think doing what you did by working with him by yourself is good. it helps your bond between you too and makes for a happier william :) definite abuse case.... this really broke my heart
slingshot181 1 year ago
aww poor horse
countrygirl999999 1 year ago
poor baby, poor baby
DasTuppen 1 year ago
Goodness. He really does hate that farrier. I wonder what made him react this way, something in his ealier life I'm guessing.
MamaMare225 1 year ago
Dat arme dier.... zo sneu om die angst te zien. Waar heb je William vandaan?
Maanlingxx 1 year ago
Have you tried just working with your own clippers on your own and doing his feet yourself when he is calm and relaxed. If you bought a new pair of hand clippers (that way they would only ever have your smell, and his as you use them). You can just work with him in his stall and just clip a bit off at a time. No overwhelming. And it's easy to do. It may not be professional, but it may help and it could help him get past it.
617Tora 1 year ago
@617Tora
This was in april 2008.
I have done the trimming myself ever since in the way you describe it.
I have assisted many times in farrierwork before that.
Still any farrier coming close to him, is met with full agression.
hackneysaregreat 1 year ago 3
@617Tora And you'd save money, too
emmettsgirl981 1 year ago
Poor William. Glad you decided to cancel for the day.
pegasus75068 1 year ago
tying that horse up on concrete when its jumpy like that is so stupid.
ChiCokesies 1 year ago
awww the poor baby! does he act any better noww?
xXLindsayLovelyXx 1 year ago
Poor William.
userunavailable3095 1 year ago
i feel really bad for the horse
it makes me wander what has happened with him with his previous owners or what his past ferriors has done to him
i hope everything is doing better with him
Stormy770 1 year ago
My mare gets the same way with vets. The smell of them gets her really nervous. I found out that they twitched her and put a chain over her gums to "subdue her" just to get her temperature. Then I met the most wonderful vet who did not use any restraint (unless needed for the safety of the horse and the people) and gave my horse some treats to distract her from anything she was doing.
Has he gotten over his fear yet?
fancigal 1 year ago
Its a shame he has this problem -- he's a beautiful guy, i wish you the best of luck helping him work through this fear
Lonaart 1 year ago
that vid made no sense to me
horselover7882 1 year ago
blondie42685- Really? sedating him? What kind of horse person are you? Oh yea, you're not. Because anyone who actually knows about horses, abused or not and how to correctly train them knows that drugging a horse that is obviously terrified out of his mind of something will not train him to stand still for it the next time. You need to desenstize him and teach him that the ferrier will not hurt him. Not jump at a quick and often dangerous solution of drugs. Thats just ridiculous.
Andyurgay 1 year ago
It's blondie for a reason Andyurgay.
charmed6057 1 year ago
this is true -_-
Andyurgay 1 year ago
poor horse he is scared out of his mind
narutosbiggestfan3 1 year ago
poor thing! how old?
DarkHorseDancer 1 year ago
We had a ferrier that hit our quarter horse with a hammer on his shoulder when he would act up. We stupidly gave him a second chance well our quarter horse got so ferious with the ferrier that he broker the cross ties actually ripped them out of the wall and cornered the ferrier kicking at him. Good thing we were there otherwise the guy would have been walking out in a body bag.
Sluddy87 1 year ago
@Sluddy87
For me a horse has a right to defend itself when tortured like that.
And yes, I agree your farrier was very lucky.
hackneysaregreat 1 year ago 8
@hackneysaregreat how is the horse tortured? :s
BornToLead1000 4 months ago
Behavior like this really makes you wonder what the hell happened to him when the last farrier was around...
Kolibri2005 1 year ago 4
I wish William could have told me.
hackneysaregreat 1 year ago 2
Judging by his reactions, it would probably be a very sad story :-( He is lucky he has such a nice home with you :-)
Kolibri2005 1 year ago
Is he a stallion?
Susukeyup5555555 1 year ago
Awh what a shame, beautiful man so frightened, awh :( x
chazow 1 year ago
I wish you luck working with such a nervous horse. Not an easy situation to deal with. Have you tried sedating him before the farrier gets there?
blondie42685 1 year ago
Wow, he's really upset and you could tell he was ready for a fight. I hope you can convince him that not all farriers are bad, but it might take a long time.
Mdequifever 2 years ago
Oh poor thing! I totally empathize with you and him - I have a mare that was abused badly in the past. There is no way in hell he wasn't tormented by a farrier - he's displaying extreme displacement behavior, especially in the waving of his foot. This is clearly not a case of a merely flighty horse.
It'll take a lot of time and a LOT of patience but you and him can get over this! Good luck!
WeeMiniMoose 2 years ago
I just want to go over and hug him...it makes me kind of sad to see him act like that. He's so beautiful.
FriesianFeathers 2 years ago
the only comment i have isssss why are you keeping him tied while he freaks out? thats dangerous..
myblueeyedtiger 2 years ago
This was totally unexpected behaviour for what I thought was a very experienced horse, which I wished to document as prove what farrier abuse could mean to a horse.
I ended the session and did put him back in his stable inmediately, without trying to have him shod at all.
hackneysaregreat 2 years ago
@hackneysaregreat Hi, not trying to be a know-it-all but, putting him up was not the best thing to do. It just taught the horse to throw a temper tamtrum and he will get his way and go back to his stall (safe place). The best thing to do is to have your farrier aproach and rub his head and neck and then retreat. Keep having him do this until the horse learns that he wont get hurt. This may take days or weeks but the horse will learn to trust that farrier.Hope I could help.
itwasallgoodinthe70s 1 year ago
@itwasallgoodinthe70s seriously ? the horse is terrified !!! he is not having a temper tantrum. do not dole out advice, you clearly have no idea. this is not a simple case of getting a horse used to the farrier, which is plain to see by anyone who knows horses in the slightest.
meink09 1 year ago
@meink09 Well lets see. I happen to train horses for a living in Ocala FL. (horse capiton of the world) as it's known. I have trained over 3500 horses and have traveled the world giving clinics for 30+ years. I am close friends of many well known high profile trainers and I was simply giving advice on how to calm a horse. FREE advice that I usually sucessfully charge good money for. Approach and retreat is well known and VERY proven tactic that works for horses but not unintellegett owners.
CanYouAffordObama 1 year ago
@CanYouAffordObama just the smell of the farrier has terrified this horse, how is the farrier going to get close enough to touch him ? of course the logical route is to slowly get the horse used to the farrier, but this is very severe case from what i can see. and that advice you gave ? little kids at pony club know that... putting it into practice is a whole different story. i find it very hard to believe that you are as successful a trainer as you say you are.
meink09 1 year ago
it is much safer to keep him tied. if you untied a horse in that state of panic he would bolt, quite likely injuring himself on obstacles along the way, and possibly run onto a road. my gelding had a freak-out recently over a tarp, and believe me, if he had been loose he would have killed himself galloping through the fence trying to get away from it.
zhivana 2 years ago
I love the knowing comments of these 15-19 year old kids, giving training advice based on the minute of film they see here. Obviously they've never dealt with horses who were abused badly (I mean hit, hurt).
Riders shouldn't dole out advice to horsepeople.
NandiniJT 2 years ago 20
As you say, they are interesting comments...
hackneysaregreat 2 years ago
@NandiniJT I think you better watch yourself- cause i happen to be 15,not only did i not know how to ride i knew nothing about horses when i bought my boy- i took lessons for 6 months after i had him for a year, before i broke him. its people like you that make me loose all respect for older generations, and my friends barn , who is younger than me, has worked with many rescue ponies, and they are amazing ponies today, yes some young people run their mouthes but others actually have experiences.
CaseyHorses 5 months ago
take those damn shoes off; let the horse smell the instruments, make friends with him first; put him in a round pen with a lead rope; so he doens't feel trapped; slowly pick up feet just hold them -- probably will nhave to do a little bit at a time like once a week for say a month so he can start trust. HTe owner has to pick his feet up regularly on a daily basis.
fifthavenuegirl 2 years ago
You should have read the comments and info to my video, before commenting like this.
hackneysaregreat 2 years ago
What shes saying could help him in the long run. If hes scared of farriers dont tie him up. let them go out in a pasture where hes comfortable. its awful that he was abused but by working with him slowly he might trust them again. i dont mean this to be rude. i just wanted to add a suggestion. good luck. hes a beautiful horse.
ThePaintedFilly 2 years ago
so.... how did you finally resolve the issue of getting his feet done, poor thing? (Horses really do tell us their whole history don't they!)
twomblypublishing 2 years ago
That's just so sad
Alishondra 2 years ago
Reading horse body language is like the number one thing you should do. If the horse looks destressed comfort him with cookies or talkig to him. Dont think just letting him stand there scared out of his mind is guna help him in the longrun. You need to treat him and show him that when the farrier approaches is a good thing.Let the farrier feed him cookies and talk to him and stuff. It helps
MsComanche1 2 years ago
Cookies ? (Rolls eyes)
nags2bitches 2 years ago
as a farrier that horse needs to be untied and have sympathetic handling his front foot movement can be explained as simply looking for comfort and why would you film his distress rather than help him
GrrFunguschops 2 years ago
Thank you, I physically hold my horses all the time while my horses are being shoed even with my horses that dont even care and would rather fall asleep
MsComanche1 2 years ago
oh, he's so adorable. Is he still afraid? maybe take him of the concrete next time, because I have a similar experiance on concrete which nearly killed my horses, again it was completley unexpected.
jaaaymeeee 2 years ago
My pony went like this, and he is normally a docile, calm pony too.
But I was riding him and he was terrified of a mattress -.- Abusive mattress!
Does anyone know why he was shaking like that with his forelegs?
Sniffysmyboy 2 years ago
Hackenys Talk to you alot through there legs.Ex) How they feel.
spiritgirl2796 2 years ago
Its a vice called pawing. I used to have a saddlebred that would do that out of stress whenever he was brought somewhere new.
SoftVelvet 2 years ago
My riding instructer has an Arabian that faints when the farrier comes.
cammarkgross 2 years ago