OMG i want on this ride yesterday with my friends and i was the only one who was laughin and screamin the whole time. But if you go on this ride make sure you dont eat anything or drink anything( althought I didnt eat or drink anything, i felt i was goin to throw up but i was calm after the ride). This is my fave ride at six flags. And I got another free ticket so Im goin back.
this new layout is par man, they wont let me give the video n e stars man. got another fresh GRIMINAL DISS on my ting in hd 4 ya an its hype sidewinder back in the day still. get at me
I am going to Six Flags tomorrow and I wanna know, is this ride worth it? It looks short. Plus, it's a stand-up ride right? I've never been on one and I don't know what to expect
Just think... What's there to be afraid of? nothign gonna happen! :) Its a roller coaster and their meant to be ridden on! Thats what their for! Thats why your at a theme park!! :D :D
@classtonowhere i used to be terrified of rollercoasters.... but my first date ever was to a theme park and i had to ride em or else be a wimp/buzzkill! so what i'm trying to say is take a girl!
They must've repainted it, I just went to 6 flags yesterday, didn't look this crapy... looked sooo much better. my legs were burning when we went through the loop... SO COOL!!!! {X^D
I remember when i went on this. I haden't eaten all day and was outta energy and almost blacked out on the ride. It was hella fun because it was my first stand up coaster.
this was the first roller coaster I ever rode in my entire life. the second coaster i ever riden was goliath XD. i was scared as shit... this happened a few weeks ago LOL im 14!!!!!!!!! sad for me huh?
of course Superman is better No one cares that they are different rides. That was just my personal opinion and i must say that the ride does look fantastic and if i ever get the chance i will ride it just based on looks the poltergeist was better. Also take into account that i have never rode this ride and have no right to say which is better. Thank you for your time
@6flgslover i just went on it today and surprisingly it wasn't as bumpy as i remembered i wounder what they could have done. because when i rode the scream machine the same thing happen it was amazingly smoother at the bottoms of the hills (they are usually extremely bumpy)
hi everyone! im going to six flags in 2 day so I need to know some really good thrilling rides in six flags georgia! I would really appreciate it if you could reply me back with some rollercoasters!
Thank you!
PS. i am not afraid of rollercoasters and want something fun and thrilling =D
i would recommend batman. there is no floor so ur feet dangle. also Goliath. tht is the big daddy of all coasters at SFOG. also do the ninja. ur neck might hurt when u get off though. finally do acrophobia. tht is some scary shit right there! watch some vids of these rides so u can see wat their like
it was funny when i was there were these people stuck on the lift and the girl in the front seat could move in and out the harness kinda, it was funny.
omg everytime i go to six flags in gergia i always ride this one!!!!!! its fun! the 1st time i got scraed.... 2nd times it was ok, 3rd time I LUVED IT!!!!!!!! IT WAS SOOO FUN! I WAS SINGING ITS PRETTY KOOL
didn't give me a headache, but my head bounced around so much that it broke one of the rubber pieces keeping one of my cartilage piercings on my ear... lol but the ride was amazing!
I got sick though and I was petrified and I could not move and I didn't ride anything anymore this was last year during Fright Fest! and Now I am going again Thursday June 12, 2008 to See All Time Low. and I AM GONNA RIDE THEM ALL
you know, I wonder why do many roller coasters have to have that "sissy bump" right before the first drop when you slow down almost to a stop?
Goliath didn't have that and it killed.
The bicycle seat on the Scorcher suddenly pops up when you are getting off. If you're a guy that's slow getting your harness off, get prepared for some intense pain.
i had a bad incident with this coaster today. in the station, the seat wouldnt go down. and at the top of the big hill my harness came open, thank God for those little buckles. Luckily it snapped back into place
It's awesome! But if you're heavy or have weak leg muscles, you might want to sit for a while after. Also if you're a guy, make sure your buds won't get knocked around by the seat.
Don't you just hate when you the seat locked when your heels are off the ground so your feet are getting pulled the whole time. now I know to crouch a little :)
Didn't hurt my crotch at all, it was designed for the positive G's to go to your legs, and that exactly where they went when I rode it, the seats move up and down as necessary too which helps a lot. It's pretty comfortable to me.
my best friend loves this ride for some reason. this and the mindbender. shes always goin to sixflags. she got sooooooooooooooooo many season passes for this year.
I love that ride PEROID! I love the thrill when you go in the tight turns and it feels as if you're being pulled by a magnet to the floor. I love the roar of it too.
I love this roller coaster, but you should add this: It can be a sitting roller coaster. If you sit on the seat (not straddle it), then it goes down to a sitting position.
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hs14jo 3 months ago
thats my ride man
camya2001 6 months ago
This ride was awesome but the superman was the best
TreMagnific2012 7 months ago
my nuts was hurtin like hell after this ride neva again fuck dat
lvisu 7 months ago
one of the best ones at six flags! loved it!
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killing it wid da up dere. ive got griminal diss up in hd, abeg ya hit me up its mad hype unar
reloadfmradio 1 year ago
it was fun
ajstv1 1 year ago
rofl today when i was slaeep i had a dream i was on this
coolinblue100 1 year ago
OMG i want on this ride yesterday with my friends and i was the only one who was laughin and screamin the whole time. But if you go on this ride make sure you dont eat anything or drink anything( althought I didnt eat or drink anything, i felt i was goin to throw up but i was calm after the ride). This is my fave ride at six flags. And I got another free ticket so Im goin back.
RadioKilla5 1 year ago
The turns on this coaster are sharp. tht caught me off guard
TripleJ500 1 year ago
i felt the safest in this ride for some reason, lol
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this new layout is par man, they wont let me give the video n e stars man. got another fresh GRIMINAL DISS on my ting in hd 4 ya an its hype sidewinder back in the day still. get at me
reloadfmradio 1 year ago
Rode this 4 the 1st time ystrday LOVED IT =D
6flgslover 1 year ago
I love this ride!
corbinsbabe201 1 year ago
I am going to Six Flags tomorrow and I wanna know, is this ride worth it? It looks short. Plus, it's a stand-up ride right? I've never been on one and I don't know what to expect
PearlyWolf 1 year ago
I cnt w8 2 ride this XDDD
6flgslover 1 year ago
im terrified of roller coasters but can someone give me addvice not to throw up cuss dang i dont wanna be a whimp my hol life
classtonowhere 2 years ago
@classtonowhere dnt eat anything when you first ride a roller coaster ^_^
JamieUchiha18 1 year ago
@classtonowhere
Just think... What's there to be afraid of? nothign gonna happen! :) Its a roller coaster and their meant to be ridden on! Thats what their for! Thats why your at a theme park!! :D :D
0Solenklier0 1 year ago
@classtonowhere i used to be terrified of rollercoasters.... but my first date ever was to a theme park and i had to ride em or else be a wimp/buzzkill! so what i'm trying to say is take a girl!
TodaySurreal 1 year ago
They must've repainted it, I just went to 6 flags yesterday, didn't look this crapy... looked sooo much better. my legs were burning when we went through the loop... SO COOL!!!! {X^D
SuperK3nnyXD 2 years ago
this ride looks like shit, how old is it?
FlippOut44 2 years ago
guys, just a little hint, if ur riding this and experience severe burning of the legs, its normal haha, thats why its called scorcher btw :3
christop214 2 years ago
this rides awsome
sixflags1267 2 years ago
this ride looks wicked omg i cant wait
is it fun?????????
welovecookies1021 2 years ago 3
yeah its a pretty fun ride.
rcw0388 2 years ago
I really liked this one, but I didn't get much of a rush, like Superman and all.
scrowe93005 2 years ago
This was my second ever. First in a LONG while, though.
guardianofmen 2 years ago
this was the first roller coaster i EVER RODE. :D
BowerbirdProductions 2 years ago
I love this ride. My favorite stand-up.
lazor222 2 years ago
My seat belt came undone on the last 15seconds of this ride.
I was SO scared.
XxPantspoliceXx 2 years ago
I remember when i went on this. I haden't eaten all day and was outta energy and almost blacked out on the ride. It was hella fun because it was my first stand up coaster.
sumitkid123 2 years ago
i just rode tht ride lol
iAllycat 2 years ago
this was the first roller coaster I ever rode in my entire life. the second coaster i ever riden was goliath XD. i was scared as shit... this happened a few weeks ago LOL im 14!!!!!!!!! sad for me huh?
NYwilliamreyeswrNY 2 years ago 2
i love that ride it rocks im going tomarrow
skullsk8er1230 2 years ago
we rode this yesterday 7 times!!!!
adwebi12 2 years ago
That ride hurts your "jewels" really bad.
majorgamer2 2 years ago
ride is cool .. but uncomfortable ... I woudl think it would really hurt for a guy ...
MsRavensmist 2 years ago
Lol I agree with you unless you stand up bc the ride kind of gives you an option of sitting or standing
PhunnixXBusiness 2 years ago
I rode this yesterday!
BlueCamouflage96 2 years ago 3
this is the BEST ride. i loveee it!! :D i went on it 3 times. haha. :) its so smooooth. its more fun when you stand.
FigureSkater2497 2 years ago
my friend nicky didn't get on it right and she said she needed gold bond afterwards, lol
I couldn't get through the line, too long :(
pixie453 2 years ago
thats my most favorite ride at sixflags over georgia but it seemed like it was only about 30 seconds
25dk25 2 years ago
tats cuz it is lol but itss ausome
kookoo445 2 years ago
this was crazy fun!!!! the thing that straps u on hurts ur crotch if u don't completely stand though... lol
but i loved this ride, it was so much fun but way toooo short
streetkid2k7 2 years ago
I Hate Upside Down Coasters..
They Just Freak Me Out..
Ive Been On The Longest One.. That Was My First.. It Went Upside Down. I Never Went On Those Again. xD
I Only Like The Roller Coasters That Go Straight And Side To Side Ones. :)
Jenzo04 2 years ago
i love being front on that first hill cause you're just like facing the ground and falling. :D
danig120 2 years ago
that ride was mad intense the first time i went on it lol./
ArmyOfThreProduction 2 years ago
this is nothing compared to the poltergeist at Fiesta Texas
Mrwii93 2 years ago
well poltergeist and GS
are two diffrent rides
poltergeist is LIM launched
and GS is a stand-up
learn abour coaster.....
RollerCoasterMan11 2 years ago
i dont mean to be offensive, but this will be
I dont care
Ill compare the teacup to Superman
of course Superman is better No one cares that they are different rides. That was just my personal opinion and i must say that the ride does look fantastic and if i ever get the chance i will ride it just based on looks the poltergeist was better. Also take into account that i have never rode this ride and have no right to say which is better. Thank you for your time
Mrwii93 2 years ago
wow
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MerylStreep001 2 years ago
lame imo.
TehWoodPcker 2 years ago
this ride hurts my legs sometimes :P
boyboy53 2 years ago
this is my absolute FAVORITE ride @ six flags.
all of the loopty loops nd everythinq
makes it worth the while in standinq in line
Retrochicka09 2 years ago 2
Never again will I ever ride this ride. I never stopped screamin haha. I closed my eyes right when they locked me in (:
CyanideDrop 2 years ago 7
@CyanideDrop this ride wuz awesum even tho i wuz all nervous wen i 1st rode it but iended up loving it anyways just like mindbender and GASM
6flgslover 1 year ago
@6flgslover I think the only other ones I rode were Cyclone and the dahlonaga(sp) mine train hahah. kiddie coasters..
CyanideDrop 1 year ago
@CyanideDrop oh well cyclone is like killer cuz it's WAY 2 bumpy that's y im nvr riding it other wise i wudve by now
6flgslover 1 year ago
@6flgslover Yea, I have some back problems and cyclone made it worse. I'm goin back in August though haha.
CyanideDrop 1 year ago
@6flgslover i just went on it today and surprisingly it wasn't as bumpy as i remembered i wounder what they could have done. because when i rode the scream machine the same thing happen it was amazingly smoother at the bottoms of the hills (they are usually extremely bumpy)
UltraMankiller 1 year ago
man two inversions isnt good enough..
but 8 inversions in 4 times in a row round 9:44pm was pretty satisfying :]
BRANDONluvsIPODS 2 years ago 3
this was the very first rollercoaster i rode that had a loop ever. good times, good times. (:
piinkadoodle 2 years ago 3
I always head straight to the scorcher when I enter the park :D
kkangandy08 2 years ago
i go to achrophobia then the scorcher..
i just pass the cyclone because since like 2006 it was just too much..
it seemed like it got a lot rumblyier since 2006 LoL..
rumblyier is a word..google it
kiddin..
just like snarky..
BRANDONluvsIPODS 2 years ago 7
@BRANDONluvsIPODS I have acrophobia but I'm not afraid to ride a roller coaster for some reason.
sticktarded 9 months ago
hi everyone! im going to six flags in 2 day so I need to know some really good thrilling rides in six flags georgia! I would really appreciate it if you could reply me back with some rollercoasters!
Thank you!
PS. i am not afraid of rollercoasters and want something fun and thrilling =D
DaVballPlayer 2 years ago
i would recommend batman. there is no floor so ur feet dangle. also Goliath. tht is the big daddy of all coasters at SFOG. also do the ninja. ur neck might hurt when u get off though. finally do acrophobia. tht is some scary shit right there! watch some vids of these rides so u can see wat their like
gothkid459 2 years ago
hat does POV mean anyway
rocketvaughn 2 years ago
It means pissed off virgin. Yeah. Thats what it means. ;)
quitbullshittingme 2 years ago
pov=peeing on Virgins
Familyguy098 2 years ago
how would u make a good POV of a coaster?
diabolocrzy 2 years ago
I rode this a few times, but every time it made me sick. Not sure why, it's the only one to do that.
mmthomas328 3 years ago
i wanted to ride it but my friend didnt so we couldnt cuz we had to ride with some one*i was with my church*
NickandVanessa4ever 3 years ago
it doesn't go upside down very much only twice. but i bet its still fun
woklipa13 3 years ago
I ♥ Roller Coasters!
bandnerd564 3 years ago 2
this was my first standup coaster and it was so fun. I love standup coasters now
chriscoulon 3 years ago
it got a new paint job
dookiesauce6661 3 years ago
this ride is soooo fun!
firepheonix396 3 years ago
it was funny when i was there were these people stuck on the lift and the girl in the front seat could move in and out the harness kinda, it was funny.
calvinj15 3 years ago
this thing gave me a rash between my crotch for the next 3 days.
GeorgeTangoThwiese 3 years ago 2
i rode it was fun
hakujin777 3 years ago
This ride broke down while I was on it. It was still fun though!
1ShawtyT 3 years ago
i still cant belive u stand up on the coaster!!! but its real fun
fartymcfartpants2 3 years ago
Its looks so tiny compared to that Beast Goliath
G4C123 3 years ago
you get more air time on the back of this then you do on galioth
Pieisgood2me 3 years ago
that ride is sooooo fun
sfskid 3 years ago
Such a short ride.
Hollywood1127 3 years ago
my favorite ride in the whole park next to the ninja but the ninja hurts your head
baseballer3510 3 years ago
dat ride is s♥ fun the best part ab♥ut it is that y♥ur standing up!!!!!
fartymcfartpants2 3 years ago
lol so wait.. you are standing up during the ride! how does that work??!! lol
mzchrisbrown1108 3 years ago
u stand up but theres something between your legs and a over your head harness thingy =)
datgurlmissie94 2 years ago
lol when the seats locked i started freaking out. i was like "noooo lemme off!"
but naw...i loved it. =D
Antixyoux105 3 years ago
omg everytime i go to six flags in gergia i always ride this one!!!!!! its fun! the 1st time i got scraed.... 2nd times it was ok, 3rd time I LUVED IT!!!!!!!! IT WAS SOOO FUN! I WAS SINGING ITS PRETTY KOOL
wwegirl1fan 3 years ago
yeha i rode it twice its acually fun and short and gives u a lil headache
lildudiez 3 years ago
didn't give me a headache, but my head bounced around so much that it broke one of the rubber pieces keeping one of my cartilage piercings on my ear... lol but the ride was amazing!
eddiesgirl22 3 years ago
that ride was awsome
narutard923 3 years ago 3
This was my first ride!!!!!!
I got sick though and I was petrified and I could not move and I didn't ride anything anymore this was last year during Fright Fest! and Now I am going again Thursday June 12, 2008 to See All Time Low. and I AM GONNA RIDE THEM ALL
ultimaweapon2008 3 years ago 2
ohh it was my first ride when i went too. i was sooo scared. then i rode mindbender which is supposed to be scarier and wasnt that scared :D.
i was huddled up with my eyes closed during like all of ga scorcher though. haha it was intense.
manasa4494 3 years ago
this is my favorite ride..it was my first ride ever..i love it
LadyVols23 3 years ago 2
that ride gives me bad memories
YThurgood 3 years ago 2
im going this summer cant wait 4 superman and batman and goliath
emmy500 3 years ago 2
is htis scary? doesnt look scary AT ALL
emmy500 3 years ago
its actually over before you know it, but it is worth it to ride it!
RTCMAHL 3 years ago
i love this rideee . but bat man be my fav.
oh and i rode this when i was 11 . oh yeahh
rockstar55519 3 years ago
Oh, I remember that one :D I spent an exchange year in the States and my host-aunt took me to Six Flags Georgia, it was awesome!!
Katzeklo 3 years ago
you know, I wonder why do many roller coasters have to have that "sissy bump" right before the first drop when you slow down almost to a stop?
Goliath didn't have that and it killed.
The bicycle seat on the Scorcher suddenly pops up when you are getting off. If you're a guy that's slow getting your harness off, get prepared for some intense pain.
FrankMazeppa 3 years ago
i went on that 5 times a couple days ago :)
cjrun87 3 years ago
I remember before Goliath was built, this ride looked so huge. But now Goliath towers over this one.
drpepper242 3 years ago
i had a bad incident with this coaster today. in the station, the seat wouldnt go down. and at the top of the big hill my harness came open, thank God for those little buckles. Luckily it snapped back into place
nautiqueaddiction102 3 years ago
is this scary at all if you have never ridden on it...????be honest reply asap
cranbrook1951 3 years ago
the first drop is killer but its SO fun and really short
flyprincessc 3 years ago
It's awesome! But if you're heavy or have weak leg muscles, you might want to sit for a while after. Also if you're a guy, make sure your buds won't get knocked around by the seat.
drpepper242 3 years ago
It just made it round the loop
Deanaby 3 years ago
i love this ride i did it 13 times in a row lol
Mapledude2 3 years ago
it's one my favorites, but i love batman..i rode it 6 times in a row without puking(:
izzythecutie 3 years ago
that was ausome
rangerkid643 3 years ago
Don't you just hate when you the seat locked when your heels are off the ground so your feet are getting pulled the whole time. now I know to crouch a little :)
blackfalcon55 3 years ago
this is a standup? ive had that happen to me too but on Riddler's Revenge at sfmm.
exhilerator 3 years ago
We were leaving the park and we saw this ride so we were like lets go on it.. so we did =]
softballgirl18701 3 years ago
One of the best rides at Six Flags!
moonbaby8768 3 years ago
Fun but short, Scary But Short, Standing Up But Short. One thing to say SHORT !!! Long line not worth the wait. SHORT line worth the wait. [:
MalloryHaydenMaddie 3 years ago
fun!!!!!!!!!!!
FashionablyLate101 3 years ago 2
haha dude this is only fun if you stand up :D
cuz you have an option to stand up or not
Jef8394 3 years ago
It's pretty short...
sinnis10 4 years ago
lol i love this ride. totally not scary. i rode it about 6 times in a row and got front 2 times =]
jelly3485 4 years ago 3
I got sick after riding this one, lol.
Purpletenn 4 years ago 2
Hmmm..Not real big and fast, and only 2 inversion...Ive probley riden bigger
Theguyof93 4 years ago
this is the one you stand up on right???
saltlife1994 4 years ago 2
yes
prestonfreake 4 years ago 2
fun. but i always put my seat too low on accident so im always sittng. =/
thompson0920 4 years ago 2
I rode this i can't even believe it. i was soooooooo scareddd and it wasnt even dat bad,. LOL
its coo tho i would ride it like 10 ttimes if i could
B5sLadyCarnellmyBaby 4 years ago
i rode it this past weekend on the 13th of october it was not scary i was in the front also
randle449 4 years ago
I can't believe I went on this thing!
JimShadyUK 4 years ago
love this ride
tennisgirl013 4 years ago
six flags over georgia rules
2112x1 4 years ago
yourmom2291 is right...
how'd you hold the cam? that was a fast ride
w3ird056 4 years ago
THIS RIDE RULES ive like been in the front row on this ride for like 50 times NICE!!!
xboxmaniac96 4 years ago 3
Didn't hurt my crotch at all, it was designed for the positive G's to go to your legs, and that exactly where they went when I rode it, the seats move up and down as necessary too which helps a lot. It's pretty comfortable to me.
a1q2s3 4 years ago
My first upside down ride....
cherrieschic 4 years ago 3
this one is awesome as well, no lines yesterday!
kellybelly4124 4 years ago
i like this ride, but seriously, they should call it the crotch scorcher!! i mean dang. maybe cuz i was wearing jeans..
thatguyoncheese 4 years ago
same here my crotch was killing me. another ride like that is the mantis @ cedar point.
sosf814 4 years ago
yea i no rite..also anothr ride that dus that is vortex at paramounts carowinds
runescapon 4 years ago
this is my 2nd favorite besides goliath at SFOG i like it cause youre standing up and its a good lengh of riding
theoneandonly99 4 years ago
i love the sound of this coaster. it's fun, but not as good as batman, superman, or goliath
yourmom2291 4 years ago
i hate the seats...
clahdeeuh 4 years ago
EEP. I'm glad I didn't ride it when I was half-convinced.
Foamzyyyy 4 years ago
I love this ride it's my favorite (Over Goliath!!!). It's just SO awesome!
kee949 4 years ago
this ride kicks ass!
mhaskins73 4 years ago
SFOG BABY! I`M GLAD I LIVE THERE. YEEEAHHH BOYYY! fun fu fun
brunettebrat2015 4 years ago
SIX FLAGS OVER GEORGIA!!! i love that ride
tuxedoDUCKYS 4 years ago
i hate the G forces on this ride but its still awsome
googlemanic 4 years ago
oo i luv this ride! it was my first looping coaster!
A7xIsFrigginAwesome 4 years ago
me too. but i had to wait like 2 hours.
timmehboii 4 years ago
I LOVE THAT RIDE!!!!!!!! One of my favorite
titasow 4 years ago
love this ride. It's the first ride my friends and i ride when we enter the park (Since it's right near the entrance)
Viktriah88 4 years ago
awesome ride! it was the first thing i rode when i went a couple of weeks ago!
kfolsom17 4 years ago
my best friend loves this ride for some reason. this and the mindbender. shes always goin to sixflags. she got sooooooooooooooooo many season passes for this year.
PrincessKayla190 4 years ago
ive always been scareed of this ride and the ninja at sfog,. : (
chrisbrownwifey1301 4 years ago
the ninja isnt bad at all as long as you no that it halts at the very end!
sccrducki 4 years ago
this is the best ride EVER!
acac1225 4 years ago
haha kewl!
who taped this?
bridget829 4 years ago
me.
pooberry 3 years ago
i call it the crotch scorcher
darkmortality 4 years ago
I love that ride PEROID! I love the thrill when you go in the tight turns and it feels as if you're being pulled by a magnet to the floor. I love the roar of it too.
indiansfootball 4 years ago
love that ride.
thompson0920 4 years ago
I love this roller coaster, but you should add this: It can be a sitting roller coaster. If you sit on the seat (not straddle it), then it goes down to a sitting position.
cheesemonkey421 4 years ago
Psh. MY FAVORITE RIDE AT SFOG.
Luckily I live 20 minutes away.
Yess.
XchelsatthediscoX 4 years ago
i love that ride but if you are short it hurts your nuts
dave3219 5 years ago
yepp.
thompson0920 4 years ago
Only if you're a guy. >_>; Luckily I'm not short. Haha. 6'0" even. XD
SidesweptToTheLeft 4 years ago
LOL!!!!! I've never ridden this ride, but I'm going to this year (2007).
Jonat1414 4 years ago
this ride is so awesome!! greatest ride at six flags in my opinion
mzac523 5 years ago
dude me and freind delano and justin went on that like 6 times in a row on easter :)
araider08 5 years ago