Can you imagine the beauty of a galaxy with only red giant star systems?
or a dual core galaxy? one who'se stars teeter on the edge of the draw of the great pull of 2 black holes... or even more..
What of a nebula, larger than our milky way itself. With the sheer number of known galaxies, and knowing we dont know 10%, odds that these exist, swirling about beyond us. is more probable than a god looking down on just us
Religion uses meditation techniques and claims the calmness felt is the result of a supernatural being's presence. If these techniques are used at a young enough age, critical thinking about these experiences can be short-circuited. That's how all but a few people on this planet become religious. And that's how a certain species circling an ordinary star in an ordinary galaxy can get so puffed up about their importance in the universe.
Up st pats Cavan!! My dad went there! And guys.... Believe what you want, life is too short to waste trying to convince others. I like this video, it just plants a seed it will either grow or die!
Outstanding! I was impressed by both views (going from Venice and from a multi-verse spectrum), but I imagine for someone believing in a personal god, the reverse angle has to have more profound implications. That is for those willing enough to follow your thought experiment to its end.
@helicoidaxiom "As long as we remain on our knees, we will never know what it is to truly soar."
You're kidding yourself if you think science will produce life's answers - they're as close to a Grand Unified Theory as Fred Flintstone is of gettting his Flintmobile to the moon! They can't begin to explain gravity or its effects & haven't a clue why a twin light proton sent light years away from the other reacts when its twin is stimulated - but you keep right on putting your faith in it.
@JackMWolfe Ummm...sorry, who are you? Never mind. It's obvious you'd much rather remain cowered in the fetal position than stand up & face reality. Read Stephen Hawking's latest book. They're closer to a Grand Unified Theory than ever. Sorry if that rattles your precious beliefs. Also, the fact that there are still unanswered questions (as there will likely always be) does NOT mean we can sit back & say "God did it." If that's enough for you, so be it. You choose magic, I choose reason.
@helicoidaxiom "They're closer to a Grand Unified Theory than ever.You choose magic, I choose reason."
LOL, there's no "reason" involved in believing evolution. Theres no evidence it's happening now & none that it ever took place in the past - it's strictly faith-centered. Even Darwin repudiates it from the grave, citing the lack of fossil evidence, which he expected to be found (it hasn't), & that if irreducible complexity could be shown (it has), it would also invalidate his theory.
@JackMWolfe "LOL"?? I don't know why you're laughing, because there's nothing at all funny about ignorance. Especially willful ignorance. It is quite clear that you have constructed a viewpoint devoid of empirical data. Judging from your tired rhetoric, it is also clear that You Have Absolutely No Idea What the Fuck You Are Talking About. That said, I haven't the time nor the energy to deal with you. Good luck living in your insular, sophistic world of fantasy & superstition.
@helicoidaxiom "I haven't the time nor the energy to deal with you. Good luck living in your insular, sophistic world of fantasy & superstition."
Translation for onlookers: "I can't face the fact that my own ignorance & baseless beliefs have been exposed so I'll project my shortcomings on someone else & stick my head back where the sun don't shine. The bright light of reality really hurt my sensitive eyes - I must keep that from ever happening again!"
@JackMWolfe Nice try, asshole. You wanna do this? Okay let's do it. Since you are so content in your obstinance (yet so concerned with the perceptions of "onlookers") you feel justified -but fail to see the irony- in accusing me of employing the very same underhanded tactics of which you yourself are guilty. You also don't seem to fully understand the concept of Projection as it pertains to human psychology. Perhaps you should hold the mirror up to yourself, and reevaluate your world view.
It's already been done - you've exposed yourself as an ignoramus that doesn't even know the limitations of science which you've put your trust in, or that Darwin himself recognized the shortcomings of his own theory & now repudiates them from the grave. The best you've produced here was your silence for the last 24 hours. Go back to sleep.
@JackMWolfe Pathetic. People can't refute things after they're dead, dipshit. And the only "shortcomings" Darwin experienced were technological. He was limited by the instruments available at the time. In the past 150 years, scientists have amassed immeasurable amounts of evidence for evolution by natural selection. For all intents & purposes, it is a FACT. Your refusal to acknowledge it means nothing to me. If anyone's asleep, it's YOU, cowboy. I'm done here. Fuck off & die.
@helicoidaxiom "scientists have amassed immeasurable amounts of evidence for evolution by natural selection. For all intents & purposes, it is a FACT."
ANOTHER opportunity for you to supply some proof just passed us by! Did I mention that Darwin acknowledged that there was NO evidence in the fossil record in his day to support his theory & NONE has yet been found? And that he also said irreducible complexity voids his theory which HAS been proven? A DEAD MAN refutes you! Ignorant Idiot. Bye.
@zoidberg Why did most people believe the world was flat for so long instead of what the bible says about it? - ignorance. The fact is that macroevolution can't be supported from a scientific perspective, so YOU can "huff & puff" & try the fallacious appeal to the major universities selling out to unsupportable pseudoscience but that won't change the truth. No one can demonstrate evolution is happening today or that it ever took place in the past - it's strictly a belief founded on blind faith.
@JackMWolfe "a belief found on blind faith?" and i suppose christinsanity wasn't founded on blind faith either. you christ ass kissers are relentless i swear.
@stephen Even secular sources confirm that Christ was a historical figure & the resurrection is one of the most well documented facts in history, even attested to by secular historians. Even HIs enemies who rejected Him as the Messiah cite the empty tomb but just give another explanation for it. So go kiss a transitional fossil - if you can find one. What an idiot.
@JackMWolfe i'm done with you. that rant of lies you just typed shows me exactly why i don't take religion seriously. get in the lions den you fucking useless fundie.
@stephen You're ignorant of history, don't know the bible has always been 100% supported by archaeology & history, blind to its hundreds of previous & currently fulfilled prophecies, you instead believe a preposterous fantasy called "evolution" that can't be seen taking place now & has no evidence it ever took place in the past - & you have the insolent arrogance to confront & insult OTHERS? You were done here before you ever got started - go kiss a monkey you blind idiot. TYPICAL atheist!
@JackMWolfe i'm not an atheist. i am a born again antichristian. while you may believe the super bowl is chicken soup. core is biting your nails. hot tamales are adderall pills. a job is eating totino's pizza. diGiorno's pizza is italian torture. i don't like ants very much but i love spiders. virginity is just frosting. rude is coloring your teeth with a red crayon.
@stephen Don't flatter yourself, you're just a typical run-of-the-mill ignorant atheist & hardly worth the wear on anyone's keyboard, there's no cure for willful blindness. You did make one very good argument - you're the best argument I've seen for reverse evolution.
@LosAngelesFresh1 Operational science proves that gravity exists but NOTHING that's taken place in the past or what we see in the present supports evolution & instead disproves it. If true, we should literally be tripping over the evidence - it's strictly a faith-based belief system & like Darwin, its adherents HOPE to someday find proof for it. After 150 years, all they have are a bunch of hoaxes like Lucy or the Piltdown man - you have more faith than any religious zealot on the planet!
@JackMWolfe As soon as I read 'nothing supports evolution & instead disproves it' ... I stopped reading and just blocked you. Ignorance of science is not an excuse.
@JackMWolfe that's a total lie or at least you are very badly informed. There is very little, arguably no archaeology or history evidence for the bible and jesus. Get your facts straight mr "you're ignorant of history" The true bible scholars don't agree with you.
@JackMWolfe course they can - ask any scientist working on vaccines for instance. That's now and current and very much on the front line when it comes to "seeing" evolution in progress.
This video, along with the one titled 'Your God is Too Small', are beautiful, well-produced and very thought provoking indeed! This is the kind of material that I imagine that Carl Sagan would be producing if he were still alive. Well done!
@lParadox "Considering he was in Catholic school until 17, it's probably a safe guess to say that he read the bible"
1st, this ignorant video proves he hasn't. 2nd, the RCC rejected the bible centuries ago for their own traditions & very few Catholics even today have actually read the bible or follow it. This stems from the dark ages when it was actually forbidden to read it - because when people did so (like Martin Luther) it was discovered what an apostate system they had created.
@JackMWolfe (2) The Law, if you'll pay attention, doesn't refer to the 10 commandments; there's also Leviticus in the OT. In total, the OT contains 613 laws, which detail what to wear, what to plant, how land should be managed, which hair you're allowed to cut/shave, when it's legal to sell your daughter into slavery, etc.
re: 2nd point: I'd dare you to find even one instance when the RCC, or even a priest, for that matter, have forbidden their flock to read the Bible. I dare you, Mr. Asspull.
@notinmyname Too bad the great pics are interrupted by your ignorant bible commentary. Where did you get the idea the bible says God created the solar system & then selected earth from amongst the various planets? Or that He gave Abraham the Law ie, the 10 commandments? Before you make comments or pontificate about the bible you should actually try reading it 1st - you'll perhaps make less of a fool out of yourself.
@JackMWolfe (comment 1) The Bible claims God created the entire Universe, including the sun, the Moon, the stars and space itself. Go read Genesis, it's available online in a multitude of translations.
Do you wish to claim that God created only Earth, but NOT the Sun, moon, planets and stars? That the rest of the Universe exists without any interference from Him? I can smack you down using Genesis itself, regardless of which one of the TWO MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE creation myths you'll choose
@Strika 1st, there's only ONE creation account 2nd, the issue was the video's claim that the universe was created 1st then the earth was selected from among the various planets. 3rd, the video said the Law was given to Abraham (rather than Moses) 4th,The Council of Toulouse(1229) set up the Inquisition & one of it's duties was to enforce Canon14 ie "We prohibit that the laity should be permitted to have the books of the Old or New Testament" To "smackdown" you need to know something first!
I like to think if I was the visiting alien, I would try to help the bald ape people of earth. Then again a drunk, angry Zefram Cochrane brandishing a shotgun would keep me away from earth as well. Such a dilemma
Great pictures, too bad they're interrupted by your ignorant bible commentary. Where did you get the idea it says God created the solar system & then selected earth from amongst the various planets? Or that He gave Abraham the Law? It's great that you rejected Catholicism, which strayed from the bible centuries ago, but you've done no better by putting any faith in science - which is no closer to a Grand Unified Theory than Fred Flintstone is of getting his Flintmobile to the moon.
@notinmyname2050 Thank you. It just sounded extremely familiar, although it is not clear to me, where could I have come into a contact with it. After a while of pondering I got an idea, that it might be because of watching a few of videos of this user watch?v=Xjp966UaB5A . Your accents seem to show some similarities to me. What do you think?
@notinmyname2050 What about all the brilliant scientists who were Christians?Besides some of the greatest minds of humanity were Christian theologians who praised reason as the greatest gift from God.
@LosAngelesFresh1 You are saying that Issac Newton, Blaise Pascal, Michael Faraday, James Clerk Maxwell , Asa Gray, Werner Heisenberg, Ronald Fischer were all idiots?
@TheAwesomeMaths If they believed in God, then yes. When it came to their beliefs, they were idiots. There's a thing called 'multiple intelligence'. Someone may be smart at Science, and stupid at common sense, doesn't make him a complete moron. But when it comes to rational thinking, yes, they are all idiots. Sorry?
@TheAwesomeMaths Well I do not know if they did or not because I was not their. If you are telling me they were firm believers in God, then that is all I can really speak on. Other than that it is just hearsay as far as I'm concerned. Everybody likes to misquote Einstein, saying he was a believer, when in actuality he questioned the existence of God more than anyone at his time, and made it very clear that he was an atheist. People also say Hitler was and atheist, which is also false.
@LosAngelesFresh1 I know Eistein was not a Christian, but the men I told you about were Christians. Hitler was not an atheist but he hasn't very pro-Christian considering all the priests who where executed by the Nazi.
Maxwell, for example ,wrote to his father when he was at college saying that he will analyse the validity of Christianity.
@TheAwesomeMaths The 3rd Reich was a Christian based movement lol. You need to study up a little on world war 2, christian fundamentals were used to push Nazi propaganda. Stalin only promoted atheism to help push communism throughout Europe.
@LosAngelesFresh1 You should know that the first ones who opposed Hitler were Catholic and Protestan priests and many of them lost their lives for that. Did you ever hear of Dietrich Bonhoeffer?
@davetileguy are you stupid "??" means legitamitly nothing in english on its own. it indicates that a sentence is a question so i used my birllant powers of deduction to recognise that the most common use of that phrase is to convey confusion so i explained myself more clearly. the visible universe is finite and since light travels faster than matter than their can't be infinite matter let alone galaxies. and you couldn't have heard me because i didn't say anything duh
@PIKLEWEAZL95 Correct ,you said visible,mans knowledge and technology is that of an ant.do you really believe that what we know today is the end of learning?I would say mankind is equal to monkey using straws to get ants out of their home,in 10 -20 years look back on this conversation.I have the gift of not being stuck in the present and marveling at ourselves in the mirror.
wow so it doesn't matter anyway but its ok because you have the gift of assuming that every thing that has been obseved and demenstrated is false you're belieif is unfalsifiable even with evidence against it you believe in you're age old bullshit. i can't argue because you belive im wrong because you can't know for 100% that i'm right you're trying to argue against science than get the fuck off that computer because you can't be sure it wont eat you science is the closest we got to right
@davetileguy visble means light there can't be anything beyond light because it's the fastest thing in the universe so it got father than anything therfore the material universe is limited
@PIKLEWEAZL95 Is their anyone who dosn't know that light moves at 186,000 fps? can space be folded? black holes be traveled? particles we hav'nt discovered? dimensions? we can't know what we don't know thats my only point.and the second we think we know everything we'r finnished.
@davetileguy you're a moron of course we don't know everything but you're saying that we should act on the opposite assumption. i believe what has been scientificaly observed because thats where the evidence points and therefore the most likely possibility you're saying that we should believe in a cack pot god because we cannot be 100% sure that he doesn't exist give me a break
God made everything. Possibly multiple universes. Hundreds of billions of galaxies, each containing hundreds of billions of stars, a massive number of planets and live forms - all of which he commands at a sub-atomic level.
And THEN he thought it might be better if we didn't have foreskins after all.
That sequence starting at 3 minutes should be shown at schools around the world - gives a great representation of how pitifully small we are, and how stupid it would be to think that there isn't life somewhere else in the universe.
It never ceases to amaze me how so many people still believe fervently in silly, outdated religious dogma, no matter how many times the institutions have to change their "interpretation" of their beliefs to keep up with modern scientific knowledge.
I truly feel bad for people like you i just hope that before you pass away that you accept and know god for who he is so you don't burn in hell. and everything you said in that video just made my belief for god and love for him so much greater ,the fact that he singled out a whole universe or as you said universes and chose us that just prove's how great his love for us is and yet you doubt him and question his existence
@futon12 This is just laughable. Why would anyone want to believe in a god who threatens you to an eternity in agony unless you follow his teachings? What right does this god have to expect us to believe in it when too many of his apparent "prophets" on earth are child abusers and enjoyers of the riches of the laypeople's generousity? Why not come down and show himself to us? Why create his chosen human species with susceptibility to a myriad of diseases if he is so perfect?
Thank you so much for this video! I'm a religious person, and the notion that there may not be an afterlife, or some divine being watching over us is a little scary. Most people are terrified to admit their existence may be trivial and insignificant. Even though you insinuated we're only little specks on a much grander picture, I found your video inspiring, and it only increased my interest and love for the universe and the science behind it. Once again, thank you :)
Thank you so much for this video - it's an idea I've had with no way of implementing it - I love the eyeopening footage of zooming out to the known universe from our little speck within a speck within a speck . . . . . thanks again
@haroos No, i know it to be true. There is no believe in something that you have to work on to prove. You take and idea of god and take no effort towards proving his existence. You base your life on beliefs, i base my life on what i know to me true, or at the very least the most logical reasonable understanding.
@haroos - you said "at least they should have the modesty to say 'I don't know if god exists'" - I replied that perhaps you should have the modesty to say the same. Clearly there was some sort of misunderstanding.
He's talking about any sort of god that would have inspired a holy book... That would have gave orders to the world, and that will judge people when they die ... If you believe that there is a god that has nothing to do with that it's a hole other story....
?? He's talking about a personnal god ?! And then he goes on to say that that god came to talk to desert people in the middle east ... He is clearly talking about the abrahamic god... I mean, he is really clear about this ...If you believe in a god that never spoke to desert people (abraham moses etc..) and that did not focus on earth and that doesnt correspond to any modern religion ... then he's not talking about you kinda god ... It's not my interpretation, it's what he says ...
What evidence is there that "God" exists rather than 2 gods, or 7 gods, or perhaps an autonomous collective which collaborated in order to create the universe?
@TheRationalizer it's amazing to me that so many people here consider themselves smarter than everyone else and yet they all ask me questions i didn't evendiscuss.
i never showed evidence and also didn't ask for it.
but anyone like that bald scientist who so easily dismiss the existence of god (or lack of) on ground of lack of evidence is an idiot.
how can you discount something as not real because you don't have evidence, when as a scientist that is exactly what you do ?
@haroos I don't believe you understand how science works... scientists tend to discount things where there is absolutely no evidence for its existence. If your parents told you that there was a guy who flies around the world giving everyone presents once a year you would probably believe that too.
There's plenty of evidence - even science itself has proven it's mathematically & statistically impossible for what we see in creation to have occured by chance, even if we did allow the enormous amount of time evolutionists pull out of thin air. People believe in evolution by FAITH - hoping to someday prove it despite the complete lack of evidence of it happening now or that it ever took place in the past. It takes more faith than I could ever muster.
@JackMWolfe This is a pretty good example of someone who talks big but clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. He thinks statistics can be applied to the existence of a universe (it can't) and he also believes there is no evidence for evolution. He also believes in a thing called "evolutionism" in order to make it seem like there's a religion about evolution because it makes him feel better about his own.
@razoras "This is a pretty good example of someone who talks big but clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. He thinks statistics can be applied to the existence of a universe (it can't) & he also believes there's no evidence for evolution."
1st, you had a perfect opportunity to provide some evidence for the BILLIONS of genetic mutations required for evolution to be true but didn't. 2nd, statistics regarding the EXISTENCE of the universe wasn't even being discussed. Go back to sleep
@JackMWolfe Fine, arguments about probability don't apply to "what we see in creation" either. We have no other cases to compare it to in order to make a stats argument
You have a really fundamental misunderstanding of the burden of proof. The evolutionary model explains life as we know it and there are no other competing scientific models. While being able to account for every single mutation for the entire history of time would be awesome and maybe even possible someday, it isn't required.
@razoras "arguments about probability don't apply to "what we see in creation" either"
Yes it does. The mechanism evolution postulates is random mutation combined with natural selection. 1st, mutations are rare & BENEFICIAL mutations are extremely rare. 2nd, in a simple 200-part organism which began as 1 component (& most have millions of parts), elementary statistics show that the probability of 200 successive mutations being successful is 10 to the 60th power (10 with 60 zeros after it).
@JackMWolfe Mutations are pretty common and yeah, they're usually not beneficial but they're also usually not harmful. I'm not really sure where your made up statistics come from but I see the 10 to the 60th power copy-pasted all over the internet so I'm sure you didn't come up with it. That being said, a beneficial mutation probably is extremely uncommon. That isn't a knock against the Theory of Evolution, sorry.
If evolution doesn't happen then why do nylonase bacteria exist?
@razoras "a beneficial mutation probably is extremely uncommon. That isn't a knock against the Theory of Evolution, sorry."
LOL, so beneficial mutations are extremely uncommon but evolution is based on billions of them having occurred, no real evidence can be found that it's taking place now or ever took place in the past (we should literally be tripping over the fossil evidence) - but none of that undermines the theory? And you claim that your belief in it isn't based strictly on faith?
@JackMWolfe What do you mean no evidence? I never said there was no evidence. I don't think you realize quite how many fossil records we've discovered. I'm not really sure you're willing to listen, though. How do you explain nylon eating bacteria, a bacteria that only exists because it experienced a mutation that allowed it to consume nylon, if not as evolution driven by natural selection?
But no, how common or uncommon a beneficial mutation is doesn't seem to undermine evolution, nope.
@razoras "how common or uncommon a beneficial mutation is doesn't seem to undermine evolution"
Evolution is based on the occurence of beneficial genetic mutations, destructive mutations hinder it - that's why the statistical improbability involving just a 200-part organism is so high.
"Fossils are extremely rare, too. Why would we be tripping over fossils?"
Fossils are found everywhere, the issue is they don't support the billions of transitional forms needed to prove evolution
@JackMWolfe i generally agree, but the problem is that people , as seen here, go by the same methods on both sides, disproving others for having no proof while they themselves have no proof.
you might say that there's no way all this happened by one accident after another, and it sounds reasonable, but still, how much do you know about anything ?
my point is, was, about those people in the video who so easily dismiss god's existence (possible), and geniuses or not, they proved to be morons.
@haroos yes, if they dismiss the possibility, than they are dumb, but, i am sure you already know what a shitty argument you are making. deciding there are no fairies is just like deciding there are fairies. <--- see how stupid that sounds with anything besides god?
@haroos yes, but they are not saying that god doesnt exist for sure, they are saying they dont think one does, the other option is that they do think there is one (agnostic means dont know so either position can still be agnostic) but if there is no evidence for it and all evidence is against it (this is for gods that most people would be talking about, such as yahweh, allah or zues etc) then its stupid and dishonest to beleive it
Is it wierd that this is almost like an atheist church video. Great video, preach some REAL TRUTH!! We are just another insignificant speck in the totality of everything that is. Truly humbling.
@MetalxXxMayhem That's true, but then the difference between the size of the universe and us, is almost the same as the difference between us and the smallest subatomic particles :P
We're probably in the middle on the grand scale of things :)
The big picture, is a whole different perspective and can often expose more fact. What if we could not see the big picture? Isn't human suffering enough to expose the ignorance and fear? What a contagious and crippling disease fear is. Stephen Hawking confined to a chair has more freedom to explore than the billions who can move around but never go forward.
1.) there are many different God's to believe in, not just the traditional Judeo Christian God. you can create your own idea of God that makes sense to you, you don't have to listen to others.
2.)we do not know if there is not the scale of life in the universe. assuming that our planet is the only one that contains life is simply ridiculous
@chelseadee3 Thanks for the feedback. There are indeed many gods, too many to deal with in a single video . That's why I kept this specifically to the idea of a "personal" God as espoused by theists.
1) I can't, not honestly. Whether or not something "makes sense" is too subjective and reliant on the fallible human perceptions. Evidence trumps common sense.
2) Agreed but I'm confused, did you think I was suggesting otherwise? Hard to tell context in text exchanges.
Can you imagine the beauty of a galaxy with only red giant star systems?
or a dual core galaxy? one who'se stars teeter on the edge of the draw of the great pull of 2 black holes... or even more..
What of a nebula, larger than our milky way itself. With the sheer number of known galaxies, and knowing we dont know 10%, odds that these exist, swirling about beyond us. is more probable than a god looking down on just us
AtlasSniperman 6 days ago
Nice video
Animeabe 2 weeks ago
The word you used at 4:22 is lacteus?
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Where does the clip at 6:01 come from?
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VetinariClone 4 months ago
Religion uses meditation techniques and claims the calmness felt is the result of a supernatural being's presence. If these techniques are used at a young enough age, critical thinking about these experiences can be short-circuited. That's how all but a few people on this planet become religious. And that's how a certain species circling an ordinary star in an ordinary galaxy can get so puffed up about their importance in the universe.
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Up st pats Cavan!! My dad went there! And guys.... Believe what you want, life is too short to waste trying to convince others. I like this video, it just plants a seed it will either grow or die!
05404134 5 months ago
Really enjoying watching your videos.
GreatG0dOm 7 months ago
very good vid A++++++++
elitechalenger 7 months ago
idiots, and they are happy, fools till the end. God doesnt have to make anyone believe in Him,
fromsuncity1 7 months ago
Outstanding! I was impressed by both views (going from Venice and from a multi-verse spectrum), but I imagine for someone believing in a personal god, the reverse angle has to have more profound implications. That is for those willing enough to follow your thought experiment to its end.
Call me subscribed!
Susky97 7 months ago
"As long as we remain on our knees, we will never know what it is to truly soar." Great quote! Sums things up rather nicely...
helicoidaxiom 8 months ago
@helicoidaxiom "As long as we remain on our knees, we will never know what it is to truly soar."
You're kidding yourself if you think science will produce life's answers - they're as close to a Grand Unified Theory as Fred Flintstone is of gettting his Flintmobile to the moon! They can't begin to explain gravity or its effects & haven't a clue why a twin light proton sent light years away from the other reacts when its twin is stimulated - but you keep right on putting your faith in it.
JackMWolfe 7 months ago
@JackMWolfe Ummm...sorry, who are you? Never mind. It's obvious you'd much rather remain cowered in the fetal position than stand up & face reality. Read Stephen Hawking's latest book. They're closer to a Grand Unified Theory than ever. Sorry if that rattles your precious beliefs. Also, the fact that there are still unanswered questions (as there will likely always be) does NOT mean we can sit back & say "God did it." If that's enough for you, so be it. You choose magic, I choose reason.
helicoidaxiom 7 months ago
@helicoidaxiom "They're closer to a Grand Unified Theory than ever.You choose magic, I choose reason."
LOL, there's no "reason" involved in believing evolution. Theres no evidence it's happening now & none that it ever took place in the past - it's strictly faith-centered. Even Darwin repudiates it from the grave, citing the lack of fossil evidence, which he expected to be found (it hasn't), & that if irreducible complexity could be shown (it has), it would also invalidate his theory.
JackMWolfe 7 months ago
@JackMWolfe "LOL"?? I don't know why you're laughing, because there's nothing at all funny about ignorance. Especially willful ignorance. It is quite clear that you have constructed a viewpoint devoid of empirical data. Judging from your tired rhetoric, it is also clear that You Have Absolutely No Idea What the Fuck You Are Talking About. That said, I haven't the time nor the energy to deal with you. Good luck living in your insular, sophistic world of fantasy & superstition.
helicoidaxiom 7 months ago
@helicoidaxiom "I haven't the time nor the energy to deal with you. Good luck living in your insular, sophistic world of fantasy & superstition."
Translation for onlookers: "I can't face the fact that my own ignorance & baseless beliefs have been exposed so I'll project my shortcomings on someone else & stick my head back where the sun don't shine. The bright light of reality really hurt my sensitive eyes - I must keep that from ever happening again!"
JackMWolfe 7 months ago
@JackMWolfe Nice try, asshole. You wanna do this? Okay let's do it. Since you are so content in your obstinance (yet so concerned with the perceptions of "onlookers") you feel justified -but fail to see the irony- in accusing me of employing the very same underhanded tactics of which you yourself are guilty. You also don't seem to fully understand the concept of Projection as it pertains to human psychology. Perhaps you should hold the mirror up to yourself, and reevaluate your world view.
helicoidaxiom 7 months ago
@helicoidaxiom "You wanna do this?"
It's already been done - you've exposed yourself as an ignoramus that doesn't even know the limitations of science which you've put your trust in, or that Darwin himself recognized the shortcomings of his own theory & now repudiates them from the grave. The best you've produced here was your silence for the last 24 hours. Go back to sleep.
JackMWolfe 7 months ago
@JackMWolfe Pathetic. People can't refute things after they're dead, dipshit. And the only "shortcomings" Darwin experienced were technological. He was limited by the instruments available at the time. In the past 150 years, scientists have amassed immeasurable amounts of evidence for evolution by natural selection. For all intents & purposes, it is a FACT. Your refusal to acknowledge it means nothing to me. If anyone's asleep, it's YOU, cowboy. I'm done here. Fuck off & die.
helicoidaxiom 7 months ago 10
@helicoidaxiom "scientists have amassed immeasurable amounts of evidence for evolution by natural selection. For all intents & purposes, it is a FACT."
ANOTHER opportunity for you to supply some proof just passed us by! Did I mention that Darwin acknowledged that there was NO evidence in the fossil record in his day to support his theory & NONE has yet been found? And that he also said irreducible complexity voids his theory which HAS been proven? A DEAD MAN refutes you! Ignorant Idiot. Bye.
JackMWolfe 7 months ago
@JackMWolfe
Why is it that every major university in the world teaches evolution?
Is that as a result of ignorance and baseless beliefs too?
You can huff and you can puff but I assure you the theory of evolution will remain standing, or more accurately thriving.
zoidberg1201 7 months ago
@zoidberg Why did most people believe the world was flat for so long instead of what the bible says about it? - ignorance. The fact is that macroevolution can't be supported from a scientific perspective, so YOU can "huff & puff" & try the fallacious appeal to the major universities selling out to unsupportable pseudoscience but that won't change the truth. No one can demonstrate evolution is happening today or that it ever took place in the past - it's strictly a belief founded on blind faith.
JackMWolfe 7 months ago
@JackMWolfe "a belief found on blind faith?" and i suppose christinsanity wasn't founded on blind faith either. you christ ass kissers are relentless i swear.
chiaromontestephen 6 months ago
@stephen Even secular sources confirm that Christ was a historical figure & the resurrection is one of the most well documented facts in history, even attested to by secular historians. Even HIs enemies who rejected Him as the Messiah cite the empty tomb but just give another explanation for it. So go kiss a transitional fossil - if you can find one. What an idiot.
JackMWolfe 6 months ago
@JackMWolfe i'm done with you. that rant of lies you just typed shows me exactly why i don't take religion seriously. get in the lions den you fucking useless fundie.
chiaromontestephen 6 months ago
@stephen You're ignorant of history, don't know the bible has always been 100% supported by archaeology & history, blind to its hundreds of previous & currently fulfilled prophecies, you instead believe a preposterous fantasy called "evolution" that can't be seen taking place now & has no evidence it ever took place in the past - & you have the insolent arrogance to confront & insult OTHERS? You were done here before you ever got started - go kiss a monkey you blind idiot. TYPICAL atheist!
JackMWolfe 6 months ago
@JackMWolfe i'm not an atheist. i am a born again antichristian. while you may believe the super bowl is chicken soup. core is biting your nails. hot tamales are adderall pills. a job is eating totino's pizza. diGiorno's pizza is italian torture. i don't like ants very much but i love spiders. virginity is just frosting. rude is coloring your teeth with a red crayon.
chiaromontestephen 6 months ago
@stephen Don't flatter yourself, you're just a typical run-of-the-mill ignorant atheist & hardly worth the wear on anyone's keyboard, there's no cure for willful blindness. You did make one very good argument - you're the best argument I've seen for reverse evolution.
JackMWolfe 6 months ago
@JackMWolfe dude jack is a pretzel. homework is goldfish. crack your neck, back and feet.
chiaromontestephen 6 months ago
@JackMWolfe Wait, you really DON'T believe in evolution???? I don't believe in gravity either :P
LosAngelesFresh1 4 weeks ago
@LosAngelesFresh1 Operational science proves that gravity exists but NOTHING that's taken place in the past or what we see in the present supports evolution & instead disproves it. If true, we should literally be tripping over the evidence - it's strictly a faith-based belief system & like Darwin, its adherents HOPE to someday find proof for it. After 150 years, all they have are a bunch of hoaxes like Lucy or the Piltdown man - you have more faith than any religious zealot on the planet!
JackMWolfe 3 weeks ago
@JackMWolfe As soon as I read 'nothing supports evolution & instead disproves it' ... I stopped reading and just blocked you. Ignorance of science is not an excuse.
LosAngelesFresh1 3 weeks ago
@JackMWolfe that's a total lie or at least you are very badly informed. There is very little, arguably no archaeology or history evidence for the bible and jesus. Get your facts straight mr "you're ignorant of history" The true bible scholars don't agree with you.
Realityprogramming 2 months ago
@JackMWolfe more lies - boring!
Realityprogramming 2 months ago
@JackMWolfe course they can - ask any scientist working on vaccines for instance. That's now and current and very much on the front line when it comes to "seeing" evolution in progress.
Realityprogramming 2 months ago
I really liked the format :)
MandolinGuy530 8 months ago
This is a heroic video. Thanks.
calmreason 8 months ago
notinmyname2050 for president of the United States of America!
ndrthrdr1 8 months ago
This video, along with the one titled 'Your God is Too Small', are beautiful, well-produced and very thought provoking indeed! This is the kind of material that I imagine that Carl Sagan would be producing if he were still alive. Well done!
huntonpeck 8 months ago
@lParadox "Considering he was in Catholic school until 17, it's probably a safe guess to say that he read the bible"
1st, this ignorant video proves he hasn't. 2nd, the RCC rejected the bible centuries ago for their own traditions & very few Catholics even today have actually read the bible or follow it. This stems from the dark ages when it was actually forbidden to read it - because when people did so (like Martin Luther) it was discovered what an apostate system they had created.
JackMWolfe 8 months ago
@JackMWolfe (2) The Law, if you'll pay attention, doesn't refer to the 10 commandments; there's also Leviticus in the OT. In total, the OT contains 613 laws, which detail what to wear, what to plant, how land should be managed, which hair you're allowed to cut/shave, when it's legal to sell your daughter into slavery, etc.
re: 2nd point: I'd dare you to find even one instance when the RCC, or even a priest, for that matter, have forbidden their flock to read the Bible. I dare you, Mr. Asspull.
StrikaAmaru 8 months ago
@notinmyname Too bad the great pics are interrupted by your ignorant bible commentary. Where did you get the idea the bible says God created the solar system & then selected earth from amongst the various planets? Or that He gave Abraham the Law ie, the 10 commandments? Before you make comments or pontificate about the bible you should actually try reading it 1st - you'll perhaps make less of a fool out of yourself.
JackMWolfe 8 months ago
@JackMWolfe (comment 1) The Bible claims God created the entire Universe, including the sun, the Moon, the stars and space itself. Go read Genesis, it's available online in a multitude of translations.
Do you wish to claim that God created only Earth, but NOT the Sun, moon, planets and stars? That the rest of the Universe exists without any interference from Him? I can smack you down using Genesis itself, regardless of which one of the TWO MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE creation myths you'll choose
StrikaAmaru 8 months ago
@Strika 1st, there's only ONE creation account 2nd, the issue was the video's claim that the universe was created 1st then the earth was selected from among the various planets. 3rd, the video said the Law was given to Abraham (rather than Moses) 4th,The Council of Toulouse(1229) set up the Inquisition & one of it's duties was to enforce Canon14 ie "We prohibit that the laity should be permitted to have the books of the Old or New Testament" To "smackdown" you need to know something first!
JackMWolfe 8 months ago
Very Carl Sagan-esque
AdmiralPeacock 8 months ago
@notinmyname2050 An appropriate use of Bowie I approve greatly!
MoMember88 8 months ago
Nice use of Bowie. Excellent video.
Textra1 8 months ago
Wow. Thank you for this.
(I never usually comment on youtube, btw.)
KayNosae 8 months ago
I like to think if I was the visiting alien, I would try to help the bald ape people of earth. Then again a drunk, angry Zefram Cochrane brandishing a shotgun would keep me away from earth as well. Such a dilemma
DerekYM33 8 months ago
@wspol624 You are right sir!! my bad!!
davetileguy 8 months ago
great
anothernullifidian 9 months ago
You're awesome. A+. Also, sexy accent.
nivekeryas 9 months ago
Great pictures, too bad they're interrupted by your ignorant bible commentary. Where did you get the idea it says God created the solar system & then selected earth from amongst the various planets? Or that He gave Abraham the Law? It's great that you rejected Catholicism, which strayed from the bible centuries ago, but you've done no better by putting any faith in science - which is no closer to a Grand Unified Theory than Fred Flintstone is of getting his Flintmobile to the moon.
JackMWolfe 9 months ago
I really like this video.
DomPusey 9 months ago
May I ask what kind of accent is that?
nintram 9 months ago
@nintram Irish
notinmyname2050 9 months ago 5
@notinmyname2050 Thank you. It just sounded extremely familiar, although it is not clear to me, where could I have come into a contact with it. After a while of pondering I got an idea, that it might be because of watching a few of videos of this user watch?v=Xjp966UaB5A . Your accents seem to show some similarities to me. What do you think?
nintram 9 months ago
@notinmyname2050 But the language is called Common Sense.
Foileedify 7 months ago
@notinmyname2050 I don't want sound like I'm bromancing you but have a lovely narrative voice.
Nastuf 6 months ago
@notinmyname2050 What about all the brilliant scientists who were Christians?Besides some of the greatest minds of humanity were Christian theologians who praised reason as the greatest gift from God.
TheAwesomeMaths 1 month ago in playlist Most Popular
@TheAwesomeMaths 'brilliant scientists who were christians' now there's an oxymoron if I've ever heard one!
LosAngelesFresh1 4 weeks ago in playlist More videos from notinmyname2050
@LosAngelesFresh1 You are saying that Issac Newton, Blaise Pascal, Michael Faraday, James Clerk Maxwell , Asa Gray, Werner Heisenberg, Ronald Fischer were all idiots?
TheAwesomeMaths 4 weeks ago
@TheAwesomeMaths If they believed in God, then yes. When it came to their beliefs, they were idiots. There's a thing called 'multiple intelligence'. Someone may be smart at Science, and stupid at common sense, doesn't make him a complete moron. But when it comes to rational thinking, yes, they are all idiots. Sorry?
LosAngelesFresh1 4 weeks ago
@LosAngelesFresh1 Do you think they did not question their beliefs?
TheAwesomeMaths 4 weeks ago
@TheAwesomeMaths Well I do not know if they did or not because I was not their. If you are telling me they were firm believers in God, then that is all I can really speak on. Other than that it is just hearsay as far as I'm concerned. Everybody likes to misquote Einstein, saying he was a believer, when in actuality he questioned the existence of God more than anyone at his time, and made it very clear that he was an atheist. People also say Hitler was and atheist, which is also false.
LosAngelesFresh1 4 weeks ago
@LosAngelesFresh1 I know Eistein was not a Christian, but the men I told you about were Christians. Hitler was not an atheist but he hasn't very pro-Christian considering all the priests who where executed by the Nazi.
Maxwell, for example ,wrote to his father when he was at college saying that he will analyse the validity of Christianity.
TheAwesomeMaths 4 weeks ago
@TheAwesomeMaths The 3rd Reich was a Christian based movement lol. You need to study up a little on world war 2, christian fundamentals were used to push Nazi propaganda. Stalin only promoted atheism to help push communism throughout Europe.
LosAngelesFresh1 4 weeks ago
@LosAngelesFresh1 You should know that the first ones who opposed Hitler were Catholic and Protestan priests and many of them lost their lives for that. Did you ever hear of Dietrich Bonhoeffer?
TheAwesomeMaths 4 weeks ago
@nintram Correct; we also would have accepted "Damned sexy."
judycadana 5 months ago in playlist More videos from notinmyname2050
love how scientists laugh before they say no...
managarm1349 9 months ago 29
Excellent stuff. Subbed.
Come join us at ratskep(dot)org. You'll like it there.
hackenbollox 9 months ago
Excellent work. Thanks.
GreatBigBore 9 months ago
how is science beyond belief?
Steve2323ZX 10 months ago
permanent favorite man
shiningpaths 10 months ago
So our Island of spaceship earth in infinate galaxies isn't a miracle? whatever
davetileguy 10 months ago
@davetileguy jesus christ i thought this was 2011 but that can't be if some one still thinks that there are infinite galaxies
PIKLEWEAZL95 10 months ago
@PIKLEWEAZL95 ??
davetileguy 10 months ago
@davetileguy you think that there are infinite galaxies i was just describing how absurd that notion is
PIKLEWEAZL95 10 months ago
@PIKLEWEAZL95 I believe I heard you,and apperently english is'nt your first language because I asked you how many there are?
davetileguy 10 months ago
@davetileguy are you stupid "??" means legitamitly nothing in english on its own. it indicates that a sentence is a question so i used my birllant powers of deduction to recognise that the most common use of that phrase is to convey confusion so i explained myself more clearly. the visible universe is finite and since light travels faster than matter than their can't be infinite matter let alone galaxies. and you couldn't have heard me because i didn't say anything duh
PIKLEWEAZL95 10 months ago
@PIKLEWEAZL95 Correct ,you said visible,mans knowledge and technology is that of an ant.do you really believe that what we know today is the end of learning?I would say mankind is equal to monkey using straws to get ants out of their home,in 10 -20 years look back on this conversation.I have the gift of not being stuck in the present and marveling at ourselves in the mirror.
davetileguy 10 months ago
wow so it doesn't matter anyway but its ok because you have the gift of assuming that every thing that has been obseved and demenstrated is false you're belieif is unfalsifiable even with evidence against it you believe in you're age old bullshit. i can't argue because you belive im wrong because you can't know for 100% that i'm right you're trying to argue against science than get the fuck off that computer because you can't be sure it wont eat you science is the closest we got to right
PIKLEWEAZL95 10 months ago
@davetileguy visble means light there can't be anything beyond light because it's the fastest thing in the universe so it got father than anything therfore the material universe is limited
PIKLEWEAZL95 10 months ago
@PIKLEWEAZL95 Is their anyone who dosn't know that light moves at 186,000 fps? can space be folded? black holes be traveled? particles we hav'nt discovered? dimensions? we can't know what we don't know thats my only point.and the second we think we know everything we'r finnished.
davetileguy 10 months ago
@davetileguy you're a moron of course we don't know everything but you're saying that we should act on the opposite assumption. i believe what has been scientificaly observed because thats where the evidence points and therefore the most likely possibility you're saying that we should believe in a cack pot god because we cannot be 100% sure that he doesn't exist give me a break
PIKLEWEAZL95 10 months ago
@PIKLEWEAZL95 golly your so persausive! and I 'm so dumb, you must be right! I give up now go back to fucking your mother.
davetileguy 10 months ago
@PIKLEWEAZL95 I'll bite how many are there ,exactly, what you don't know? neither does anyone else. thank you !
davetileguy 10 months ago
@davetileguy i see you posted another comment then you can disregard the obviously immaterial remarks
PIKLEWEAZL95 10 months ago
God made everything. Possibly multiple universes. Hundreds of billions of galaxies, each containing hundreds of billions of stars, a massive number of planets and live forms - all of which he commands at a sub-atomic level.
And THEN he thought it might be better if we didn't have foreskins after all.
TheRationalizer 10 months ago
Excellent video. Well done
NaomiChambers 10 months ago
@haroos give me one piece of evidence JUST ONE that go exists?
read your comments again, you said: "no evidence for it" ... oh please. i believe in'
there is no evidence, its all fantasy
monsterdemon25 10 months ago
bloody fucking excellent
Nhurm 10 months ago
That sequence starting at 3 minutes should be shown at schools around the world - gives a great representation of how pitifully small we are, and how stupid it would be to think that there isn't life somewhere else in the universe.
It never ceases to amaze me how so many people still believe fervently in silly, outdated religious dogma, no matter how many times the institutions have to change their "interpretation" of their beliefs to keep up with modern scientific knowledge.
Love live Galileo
Markachy 10 months ago
I truly feel bad for people like you i just hope that before you pass away that you accept and know god for who he is so you don't burn in hell. and everything you said in that video just made my belief for god and love for him so much greater ,the fact that he singled out a whole universe or as you said universes and chose us that just prove's how great his love for us is and yet you doubt him and question his existence
futon12 10 months ago
@futon12 This is just laughable. Why would anyone want to believe in a god who threatens you to an eternity in agony unless you follow his teachings? What right does this god have to expect us to believe in it when too many of his apparent "prophets" on earth are child abusers and enjoyers of the riches of the laypeople's generousity? Why not come down and show himself to us? Why create his chosen human species with susceptibility to a myriad of diseases if he is so perfect?
Markachy 10 months ago
@futon12
Your stone age beliefs arent wanted here. Enjoy wasting the only life you will ever have, we will enjoy living them to their fullest.
dalonelybaptist 10 months ago
David Bowie is the one true Saviour! Nice video!
pballabe1 10 months ago
Thank you so much for this video! I'm a religious person, and the notion that there may not be an afterlife, or some divine being watching over us is a little scary. Most people are terrified to admit their existence may be trivial and insignificant. Even though you insinuated we're only little specks on a much grander picture, I found your video inspiring, and it only increased my interest and love for the universe and the science behind it. Once again, thank you :)
0always0falling0 10 months ago
Thank you so much for this video - it's an idea I've had with no way of implementing it - I love the eyeopening footage of zooming out to the known universe from our little speck within a speck within a speck . . . . . thanks again
rictusgate 10 months ago
@haroos are you not ashamed parading around this ignorance?
monsterdemon25 11 months ago
@monsterdemon25 ignorance ?
of what ?
haroos 10 months ago
"he selects one" ... bullshit !
dude, i like your video, and i understand your reasoning, but it is invalid, and you as a scientist should know i'm right.
why ?
because like that bald idiot said "there's no evidence", when you say "mathematicians hypotesize", it's exactly the same "in reverse".
your arguement doesn't stick, because it's not air tight, it's based on assumptions.
and here's the big secret, these assumptions are by themselves a "belief system", meaning you BELIEVE it.
you BELIEVE.
haroos 11 months ago
@haroos No, i know it to be true. There is no believe in something that you have to work on to prove. You take and idea of god and take no effort towards proving his existence. You base your life on beliefs, i base my life on what i know to me true, or at the very least the most logical reasonable understanding.
DeceptiveSoul 10 months ago
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"no evidence for it" ... oh please.
i believe in god, and i am secular, not religious.
what a stupid stupid man he was.
scientists don't know so many things, and they so easily decide that god doesn't exist.
at least they should have the modesty to say "i don't know if god exists".
haroos 11 months ago
@haroos He didn't say God doesn't exist, he said he didn't believe in him. Theres a very big difference.
notinmyname2050 11 months ago 26
@notinmyname2050 splitting hairs.
davetileguy 10 months ago
@haroos - perhaps you should have the modesty to say the same.
moorchilde 10 months ago
@moorchilde where was i "immodest" ?
i said "i believe", i didn't say he should believe what i want him to.
but his pov is childish.
"no, absolutly not, not at all, no evidence of it".
a genius he may be that bald scientist, but an idiot none the less.
haroos 10 months ago
@haroos - you said "at least they should have the modesty to say 'I don't know if god exists'" - I replied that perhaps you should have the modesty to say the same. Clearly there was some sort of misunderstanding.
moorchilde 10 months ago
@haroos What evidence do you have may i ask ? i've been searching vigorously for this evidence for god that you say is obviously there.
DeceptiveSoul 10 months ago
@DeceptiveSoul did i say anything like it ?
read again, and again and again.
and if you still think so, please point this out to me.
haroos 10 months ago
@haroos
He's talking about any sort of god that would have inspired a holy book... That would have gave orders to the world, and that will judge people when they die ... If you believe that there is a god that has nothing to do with that it's a hole other story....
659851 10 months ago
@659851 wtf r u on about ?
your entire first line is made up, where does he talk about this ?
lol , you are interperting this and then ask me about your own interpertation ???
watch again.
haroos 10 months ago
@haroos
?? He's talking about a personnal god ?! And then he goes on to say that that god came to talk to desert people in the middle east ... He is clearly talking about the abrahamic god... I mean, he is really clear about this ...If you believe in a god that never spoke to desert people (abraham moses etc..) and that did not focus on earth and that doesnt correspond to any modern religion ... then he's not talking about you kinda god ... It's not my interpretation, it's what he says ...
659851 10 months ago
@659851 well, my whole point, the original was directed at the questions that were first asked.
i watched about 70% the video.
can you tell me where to find what you're talking about ?
this "personal god" and so forth ?
haroos 10 months ago
@haroos
you sound like an idiot. You realize this dont you?
NaomiChambers 10 months ago
@NaomiChambers great come back, full of details and reasonins.
i hope you have an abortion all your life, no need for kids with zero intelligence.
haroos 10 months ago
@NaomiChambers zero debate, zero arguement and you call me an idiot ?
you're a zero personality.
a zero.
i hope you never have children, less trouble for them from you, and for the world from them.\
zero.
haroos 10 months ago
@haroos
you have no brains.
your mother should have used birth control
unless... your stupidity comes from your dads side?
NaomiChambers 10 months ago
@NaomiChambers it comes from me, and me alone, much like your inability to debate or reason WITHOUT need for derogatory remarks.
i truly hope you will grow as a person, but likely you have already been left behind.
good luck.
haroos 10 months ago
@haroos
I am not debating you
I am simply stating a fact
you are an idiot. A fact is a fact. There is nothing to debate here.
NaomiChambers 10 months ago
@NaomiChambers but that's what you started with.
meaning you set your mind to it regardless of debate.
you are a weak minded person.
very weak.
haroos 10 months ago
@haroos
I have no intention on debating a moron.
NaomiChambers 10 months ago
@NaomiChambers just go, have fun.
provocation is for assholes like you.
haroos 10 months ago
@haroos
It sure is. Dumb dumbs like you make me laugh.
And I would like to thank you for that
NaomiChambers 10 months ago
@NaomiChambers ok, this will go on forever.
you're a cheerleader at heart, brainless.
have a nice day, if you will respond i might read, but won't continue this no-debate with your brainless non-persona.
haroos 10 months ago
@haroos
bla bla bla
Deep down, you know you are an idiot. You are embarrassed that I pointed out the obvious
NaomiChambers 10 months ago
@NaomiChambers @haroos
Girls, girls, you're both pretty.
Seriously, this is more of a slap fight than a religious debate.
MrZ0MFG 10 months ago
@haroos
What evidence is there that "God" exists rather than 2 gods, or 7 gods, or perhaps an autonomous collective which collaborated in order to create the universe?
TheRationalizer 10 months ago
@TheRationalizer it's amazing to me that so many people here consider themselves smarter than everyone else and yet they all ask me questions i didn't evendiscuss.
i never showed evidence and also didn't ask for it.
but anyone like that bald scientist who so easily dismiss the existence of god (or lack of) on ground of lack of evidence is an idiot.
how can you discount something as not real because you don't have evidence, when as a scientist that is exactly what you do ?
haroos 10 months ago
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@haroos
I think you don't know the difference between
"There is no god, there is no evidence for it"
and
"I do not believe in god because there is no evidence for it" - which is what he actually said.
TheRationalizer 10 months ago
@haroos I don't believe you understand how science works... scientists tend to discount things where there is absolutely no evidence for its existence. If your parents told you that there was a guy who flies around the world giving everyone presents once a year you would probably believe that too.
mrtristan14 10 months ago
@mrtristan14 dude, you are the 4th or 5th guy here who misunderstand me.
i'm not talking about faith as a religion.
as far as i'm concerned go pick a turtle and call it god.
what i'm talking about is that people decide that there is no god, they say it as a fact.
and imo, it's arrogance to assume that they so much about the universe to simply decide it.
as for your remarks, do YOU know what science is ?
phisicists still have don't know why there is GRAVITY !! so wtf are you on about ?
haroos 10 months ago
@haroos if you disagree that there is no evidence, then please, provide some.
wearestarstuffsagan 8 months ago
@wearestarstuffsagan that's exactly my point, for the 100 time !!
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE.
to either side.
deciding there is no god is exactly like deciding there is a god.
there is no evidence.
and a scientist who so easily dismissesthe possible existence of god, is in my opinion a moron.
god's existence (yes or no) is a matter of belief, nothing more.
haroos 8 months ago
@haroos "THERE IS NO EVIDENCE."
There's plenty of evidence - even science itself has proven it's mathematically & statistically impossible for what we see in creation to have occured by chance, even if we did allow the enormous amount of time evolutionists pull out of thin air. People believe in evolution by FAITH - hoping to someday prove it despite the complete lack of evidence of it happening now or that it ever took place in the past. It takes more faith than I could ever muster.
JackMWolfe 8 months ago
@JackMWolfe This is a pretty good example of someone who talks big but clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. He thinks statistics can be applied to the existence of a universe (it can't) and he also believes there is no evidence for evolution. He also believes in a thing called "evolutionism" in order to make it seem like there's a religion about evolution because it makes him feel better about his own.
razoras 8 months ago
@razoras "This is a pretty good example of someone who talks big but clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. He thinks statistics can be applied to the existence of a universe (it can't) & he also believes there's no evidence for evolution."
1st, you had a perfect opportunity to provide some evidence for the BILLIONS of genetic mutations required for evolution to be true but didn't. 2nd, statistics regarding the EXISTENCE of the universe wasn't even being discussed. Go back to sleep
JackMWolfe 8 months ago
@JackMWolfe Fine, arguments about probability don't apply to "what we see in creation" either. We have no other cases to compare it to in order to make a stats argument
You have a really fundamental misunderstanding of the burden of proof. The evolutionary model explains life as we know it and there are no other competing scientific models. While being able to account for every single mutation for the entire history of time would be awesome and maybe even possible someday, it isn't required.
razoras 8 months ago
@razoras "arguments about probability don't apply to "what we see in creation" either"
Yes it does. The mechanism evolution postulates is random mutation combined with natural selection. 1st, mutations are rare & BENEFICIAL mutations are extremely rare. 2nd, in a simple 200-part organism which began as 1 component (& most have millions of parts), elementary statistics show that the probability of 200 successive mutations being successful is 10 to the 60th power (10 with 60 zeros after it).
JackMWolfe 8 months ago
@JackMWolfe Mutations are pretty common and yeah, they're usually not beneficial but they're also usually not harmful. I'm not really sure where your made up statistics come from but I see the 10 to the 60th power copy-pasted all over the internet so I'm sure you didn't come up with it. That being said, a beneficial mutation probably is extremely uncommon. That isn't a knock against the Theory of Evolution, sorry.
If evolution doesn't happen then why do nylonase bacteria exist?
razoras 8 months ago
@razoras And by "pretty common" I mean we all have mutations that our parents don't have. You are a mutant and so were your parents.
razoras 8 months ago
@razoras "a beneficial mutation probably is extremely uncommon. That isn't a knock against the Theory of Evolution, sorry."
LOL, so beneficial mutations are extremely uncommon but evolution is based on billions of them having occurred, no real evidence can be found that it's taking place now or ever took place in the past (we should literally be tripping over the fossil evidence) - but none of that undermines the theory? And you claim that your belief in it isn't based strictly on faith?
JackMWolfe 8 months ago
@JackMWolfe What do you mean no evidence? I never said there was no evidence. I don't think you realize quite how many fossil records we've discovered. I'm not really sure you're willing to listen, though. How do you explain nylon eating bacteria, a bacteria that only exists because it experienced a mutation that allowed it to consume nylon, if not as evolution driven by natural selection?
But no, how common or uncommon a beneficial mutation is doesn't seem to undermine evolution, nope.
razoras 8 months ago
@JackMWolfe Fossils are extremely rare, too. Why would we be tripping over fossils?
razoras 8 months ago
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@razoras "how common or uncommon a beneficial mutation is doesn't seem to undermine evolution"
Evolution is based on the occurence of beneficial genetic mutations, destructive mutations hinder it - that's why the statistical improbability involving just a 200-part organism is so high.
"Fossils are extremely rare, too. Why would we be tripping over fossils?"
Fossils are found everywhere, the issue is they don't support the billions of transitional forms needed to prove evolution
JackMWolfe 8 months ago
@JackMWolfe i generally agree, but the problem is that people , as seen here, go by the same methods on both sides, disproving others for having no proof while they themselves have no proof.
you might say that there's no way all this happened by one accident after another, and it sounds reasonable, but still, how much do you know about anything ?
my point is, was, about those people in the video who so easily dismiss god's existence (possible), and geniuses or not, they proved to be morons.
haroos 8 months ago
@haroos yes, if they dismiss the possibility, than they are dumb, but, i am sure you already know what a shitty argument you are making. deciding there are no fairies is just like deciding there are fairies. <--- see how stupid that sounds with anything besides god?
wearestarstuffsagan 8 months ago
@wearestarstuffsagan it's how they dismiss it.
to me it's stupid, especially from scientists, who are supposed to stop and consider that maybe they don't know enough to decide.
haroos 8 months ago
@haroos yes, but they are not saying that god doesnt exist for sure, they are saying they dont think one does, the other option is that they do think there is one (agnostic means dont know so either position can still be agnostic) but if there is no evidence for it and all evidence is against it (this is for gods that most people would be talking about, such as yahweh, allah or zues etc) then its stupid and dishonest to beleive it
wearestarstuffsagan 8 months ago
@wearestarstuffsagan that's the point, they say exactly that god doesn't exist, decisivly.
the bald moron said "no, absolutly not, no evidence of it".
haroos 8 months ago
@haroos no, he didnt, he was asked if he thinks there is a god, he didnt say "there is no god" why cant you get that through your thick skull
wearestarstuffsagan 8 months ago
Excellent video, it reminds me of my own personal journey towards atheism. When I found science it freed me from the shackles of Catholicism.
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Corneilius5188 11 months ago
outstanding!
Perfect song to end with too :]
Ainulindale21 11 months ago
Beautifully done!
mcrd2001 11 months ago
Is it wierd that this is almost like an atheist church video. Great video, preach some REAL TRUTH!! We are just another insignificant speck in the totality of everything that is. Truly humbling.
MetalxXxMayhem 11 months ago
@MetalxXxMayhem That's true, but then the difference between the size of the universe and us, is almost the same as the difference between us and the smallest subatomic particles :P
We're probably in the middle on the grand scale of things :)
emikochan13 11 months ago
The big picture, is a whole different perspective and can often expose more fact. What if we could not see the big picture? Isn't human suffering enough to expose the ignorance and fear? What a contagious and crippling disease fear is. Stephen Hawking confined to a chair has more freedom to explore than the billions who can move around but never go forward.
PrintedTruth 11 months ago 7
@PrintedTruth A Hamlet said, and Hawking later remarked upon in his follow up to A Brief History of Time;
"I could be bounded in a nutshell, and count myself a king of infinite space..."
notinmyname2050 11 months ago 3
**we do not know the scale of life in the universe
chelseadee3 11 months ago
@chelseadee3 im pretty sure he agrees that we may not be the only planet with life, but that doesnt change the meaning of the video
holyfishhhy 11 months ago
i like the video, and i agree
however, there are several fallacies in the video
1.) there are many different God's to believe in, not just the traditional Judeo Christian God. you can create your own idea of God that makes sense to you, you don't have to listen to others.
2.)we do not know if there is not the scale of life in the universe. assuming that our planet is the only one that contains life is simply ridiculous
chelseadee3 11 months ago
@chelseadee3 Thanks for the feedback. There are indeed many gods, too many to deal with in a single video . That's why I kept this specifically to the idea of a "personal" God as espoused by theists.
1) I can't, not honestly. Whether or not something "makes sense" is too subjective and reliant on the fallible human perceptions. Evidence trumps common sense.
2) Agreed but I'm confused, did you think I was suggesting otherwise? Hard to tell context in text exchanges.
notinmyname2050 11 months ago