Lufthansa No-flap Take-Off Frankfurt

[HotChilliSquirrel]

This was actually a flap zero takeoff, which means that the slats are deployed and the inboard ailerons droop slightly, but the flaps are fully retracted. This type of takeoff is actually relatively rare and the A300 is one of the only airliners that can carry out this type of departure.

[KillerKlient]

You can see the effect of no flaps by the take-off pitch angle, it is very steep.

[1TyTQ5Fa2y]

omg, but normally thats no problem

[emirates761]

do they still fly the a300

[hassanonline196]

Extremely dangerous takeoff....if your speed calculation is messed up!

[dak1lla90]

@hassanonline196 Normal A300 procedure! Nothing special!

[seatgurus]

Must have been scary from your point of view knowing there was no flaps.... I bet you felt like telling the crew something lol.

[darkeos]

goog video you are alive! xD

[TheMedionakoya]

what is it this name of flight i love this flight but where this going then

[yfz450rquad]

memorys taking off at this airport not to long ago!!

[prussell890]

using 5 degree flaps is common on most flights as it enables the aircraft to takeoff at lower speeds and therefore require less runway, in other words V1 is at 140 knots compared to 160 knots with no flaps. It also allows the aircraft to gain altitude at lower speeds. However this requires slightly more thrust at N1 and therefore more fuel consumption. It all varies on the runway length, size of the aircraft and the rate of climb required by the pilot.

[PakistaniShaheen]

it was probably the low payload. with lower payload the weight is much less than average and you don't want too much lift with lower wight. that's probably why

[ollo1982]

@PakistaniShaheen the payload is only a low percentage of the weight of the plane... what weighs most is the fuel... ofcourse on short distances the payload can be higher... but on medium to long haul,like they did with the A300,there was way more tons of fuel on takeoff than payload on a passenger plane.. A747 going from heathrow to San Fransisco with 400 pax will only be around 33 tons with an average of 80kg per passenger and maybe 20 tons cargo.. fuel onboard would be roughly 130 tons...

[tr1985]

To all who wonder why the captain didn't extend flaps: the A300 is able to perform take-offs with slats only. So there was no danger.

[MrBillLumberg]

also every company has different procedures. I cant see them wanting a no flaps takeoff but i guess maybe its up to the pilots if certain conditions are met?

[yannismenexian]

this is an AIRBUS A 300. The flap which they use for the take off is very close to the fuselage. For that reason you cannot see it from the window

[Chatefucio]

Yes probablly strong head wind and long runway. But still don't understand why do they play like that...?!

[PakistaniShaheen]

yes i also flew an a Pakistan International Airlines Airbus 300-B4 take off with no flaps from UAe to Pakistan once and yes this plane is a classic that shall be missed

[Rompeballs]

Does the flight attendant turned on the popcorn machine during takeoff? It seems that Lufthansa has popcorn machines for flights

[CessnaExpert123]

OMG Did U Here Them Enggineessss :)

[TSBA92]

I was never a fan of the A300 until I flew one of Lufthansa's from Frankfurt to Athens, now I realise it is an amazing aircraft

[JagdwolfHEDDC]

Das kann ja wohl nichtr war sein....Ich glaub die haben die Flaps vergessen und haben die Checkliste nicht benutzt.....LOL

[scherlind]

@JagdwolfHEDDC kann es sein das du einfach keine ahnung hast ? flaps braucht man nicht zwingend wenn die startbahn lang genug ist !

[runway34r]

Probably a light load, a strong headwind, or a combination of the two. Cool, though! Definately not ordinary!

[brocanova]

yeah, is one of the best flying experiences i am lucky to have - rocketing out of frankfurt in the night sky with a half empty a300-600 of lufthansa. the acceleration was breath taking...

[Kalvb123]

I'VE DONE THIS BEFORE IT IS JUST SLATS DOWN BUT NO FLAPS.

[rox852456]

well it doesnt need flaps

[UAEchemist2]

@iRort

Oh yes it is, that is considered a small plane compared to A340, B747,B777 etc

[jastar08]

@UAEchemist2

still, the a300 is a widebody airliner. 120.000lb of thrust make a rocket out of a light loaded a300.

[MrBillLumberg]

@UAEchemist2 yea, compared to those. However its a widebody and not at all considered small.

[UAEchemist2]

Normally the small planes such as the A300 can take off without flaps. It also depends on the weather.

[TheBuggy96]

this is the longest runway in Frankfurt

[Haniel93]

@TheBuggy96 Frankfurt has got three runways. all are exactly 4km long. So what you said is wrong

[chirimanar]

I guess flaps were up but slats were delpoyed. May they were light and had a long runway, great video

[MrTunisair]

Die arme A300 die wird warscheinlich schon wo ziemlich einsam und trarauig wo stehen oder die Karosserie von unserem Auto sein!!! So ein schönes kultiges Flugzeug sollte nich asugeflottet werden :-(

COOLES VIDEO!!!

Gruß MrTunisair

[Ben123planes]

there has got to be at lest 1 degree of flaps otherwise there will be an alarm and possibly a stall, making a crash, this happened on a Northwest flight in '87 when the pilots forgot to to the taxi checklist - which involves the flaps, it took off, stalled and then crashed into a highway, killing all but one

[zapayo]

@Ben123planes in fact you can take off with no flaps, the accidents happen when you calculate your V speeds thinking that you have flaps and you don't, but if you have enough runway and you calculate your V speeds correctly there's no problem on taking off with no flaps, but you will always use slats :). Sory about my english!

[Ben123planes]

@zapayo thanks for that, they also forgot to put the computer in takeoff mode so that may have caused it too

[twoaxis]

if you have an a300 and 4kilometers of tarmac, wherefore do you need flaps/slats?

a300, we miss you -.-

[afgrocks123]

@twoaxis my dad is an a300-600 captain, it  is just different from the new side stick airbusses, just awesome!

[twoaxis]

if you have an a300 and 4kilometers of tarmac, wherefore do you need flaps/slats?

a300, we miss you -.-

[twoaxis]

if you have an a300 and 4kilometers of tarmac, wherefor do you need flaps/slats?

a300, we miss you -.-

[Italiaboy022]

die flaps sind glaub ich um 5 grad rausgefahren

[francis2383]

runway 18 departure on your lweft is runway 7L and 7R

[AirbusA330Fan8]

without flaps a bit crazy but a very nice take off

[francis2383]

yes also a daring take off but usually since runway is long no need

[ipts5i]

Nice climb rate that's for sure. But I'm sure that the slats on the front of the wing were extended. I've seen a few examples of that myself. It makes everyone goggle 'cos we're so used to seeing flaps always extended for takeoff.

[LTU932]

@ipts5i Yes. A300s don't take off in a clean configuration, they have at least the slats extended. In flight, if you're sitting behind the wing, you can notice that when the centre ailerons are drooped. BTW, where was the takeoff? Startbahn West?

[ipts5i]

Yes, this is R18 or Startbahn West.

[DarkDeseas]

@LTU932 RW18

[JoeMackenzie6197]

Quite a steep climb. Not too bad though.

[Azbatros2]

And in English. Flaps are usefull if you are take off ground roll limited, but unfortunately a aircraft has a better climb performance after take off. That means if you are obstacle limited a lower flap setting may be better.

Of course you have to take other limitations like take off run required and available, max tire speed and max break energie into count.

[Azbatros2]

That make so sense, sorry. The climb performance of an aircraft is in CLEAN config better. So please add this to the first sentence.

[Azbatros2]

Die Flaps sind dann nützlich, wenn man Take Off Run limitedt ist, weil der Groundroll verkürzt wird. Allerdings hat ein Flugzeug die beste climb performance wenn es clean ist.

Deswegen, kann es durchaus Sinn machen, dass man clean startet.

Natürlich sind da noch andere Limitierungen wie Take Off run required one engine out, max tire speed, und max break energie.

Legal ist es aber

[GPWSProductions]

da merkt man dass du keine ahnung hast

[Syriaacex]

haha wie hat der das hin bekommen ohner klapen der is gut mann aber schönes video

[radoslavtrvaj]

@Syriaacex wenn du genug speed hast brauchst du die klappen nicht

[desi518001]

Nice video, thx for sharing

[Bdude129]

Don't know bout the rest of ya's... but I learned somethin' new.

[DAIRX]

very nice takeoff I just adore the A300-600 with that lovely sound and the short takeoff-run they used to performe.

what about landing in BEY? Did you film, will you share?

[Fighter3694]

That´s Runway west

???

I´m sure

[DAIRX]

YEs, that RWY18W

[Chrisi1506]

No Flaps Take off its normal on a A306, but never without Slats ;-) But nice Video

[undercoverBLN]

I think Flaps are not necessary when the plane isnt very full

[hash2all]

is that legal?

[LTF85199]

This video has a unique Nostalgic feel!

[tlin741332]

no-flap take off?

[CaptainDimassi]

excellent video man bitzakaro hayda ana inta kinna ni7daro!!!