Does the car get more repsonsive when you go with a higher displacement? for example is a 2.7l NItto fully built by you less responsive than an RB30 fully built buy you with the same turbo
@IceCold720 absolutly, we have done back to back comparioons between a 2.6 with everything else identicle to a 3.0 and the response and torque difference is MASSIVE. Not 1 single person who has ever had one of my 30s says they would ever go back to a 26,27 or 28, you get the best of all worlds with a 30, better response, alot more more torque, more power and rpm is not a problem if you need to rev high.
@RIPSNZ Sounds awsome! But arent 30 builds alot more expensive? When you compare a RB26 to a 2JZGTE we say both run single turbo. Will the 2JZGTE feel more responsive beacuse it has more displacement?
Hi Guys, Just wanted to find out some more info on this car. specifically in regards to cams and valve springs. Have both been updated? if so how big?
@JoelnJulie A larger turbo will make the same power on less boost? How exactly would this be so? Since you have not proposed any nitrous injection, then exactly where does the extra oxygen come from to make the same power that was had on the higher boost level with the smaller turbo?
@MrRotormaster1 becuase a bigger turbo creates less heat, so the air will charge be more dense, so there is your extra oxygen! In theory a bigger turbo will make the same power on less boost, or more power on the same boost.
@spinnanz The "air charge" would not be more dense at it is the exact same PSI, i.e. same density. I think what you mean is that the air would be denser with oxygen. I did not take this into account because with so many factors and variables left unaccounted for and not considered into the equation, real life results seldom replicate what is predicted through theory.
@MrRotormaster1 and if an air charge is cooler at the same psi, it will be more dense and therefore carry more oxygen. I still maintain a bigger turbo will produce less heat making the same boost as a smaller turbo (although it wont make the same boost as low in the rpm range). So will make more power at the same boost
@spinnanzFor example, due to the fact that turbochargers run on heat, the smaller turbo with less heat dispersion will become hotter under the same conditions than will a larger turbo with more heat dispersion (more volume for heat to spread through). This mean that the smaller turbo is inherently able to make better use of heat that would normally be waisted through the exhaust and heat dispersion on a larger turbo. The smaller turbo, is thus inherently more efficient.
@MrRotormaster1 Id have to disagree with a few of your points, firstly that a turbo runs on heat. To me this is not correct, they run on exhaust gas flow, not the heat from the exhaust gas flow. Secondly that a smaller turbo is more efficient. If this were the case, why not have one small turbo on each cylinder? A turbo of any size has its max efficiency when its flowing a particular volume. So one turbo can be more efficent than another, but only in its window of efficiency
Its only that much because the guy wanted it like that, its not a drag monster its just a normal DD probably gonna hit the drag strip l8er on but who knows
Does the car get more repsonsive when you go with a higher displacement? for example is a 2.7l NItto fully built by you less responsive than an RB30 fully built buy you with the same turbo
IceCold720 3 months ago
@IceCold720 absolutly, we have done back to back comparioons between a 2.6 with everything else identicle to a 3.0 and the response and torque difference is MASSIVE. Not 1 single person who has ever had one of my 30s says they would ever go back to a 26,27 or 28, you get the best of all worlds with a 30, better response, alot more more torque, more power and rpm is not a problem if you need to rev high.
RIPSNZ 3 months ago
@RIPSNZ Sounds awsome! But arent 30 builds alot more expensive? When you compare a RB26 to a 2JZGTE we say both run single turbo. Will the 2JZGTE feel more responsive beacuse it has more displacement?
IceCold720 3 months ago
Hi Guys, Just wanted to find out some more info on this car. specifically in regards to cams and valve springs. Have both been updated? if so how big?
heatl0rd 1 year ago
Rest
In
Peace
Sucka
thats what rips stands for
freekaleek876 1 year ago
damn my ears just came. That's really one sweet sound there. and that power curve... looks like it's pretty responsive too
ofnir123 1 year ago 4
hows about a twincharger setup!
a supercharger for the low revs and a t51r for the big ones!
aronoxideultra 1 year ago
Sweet power curve, very usable. Nice work. =)
s04r3r 1 year ago
what these guys dont no about skylines are not worth knowing.
dont try and tell them how to build a car or what parts they want on it. !
they build cars to customers spec not just out and out power.
if yo uwant to see the powerful cars they build.
look at there drag cars
gormoshot 1 year ago
Doesnt sound like an RB30?
Still very nice though.
tanoAE86 2 years ago
its optomised for max power at low rev's 3500 according to the speed hunter article.
thehype2142 2 years ago
what sort of cams is this running?
R34NRG 2 years ago
seems to have so little power for some much displacement as so much boost.
InitialDoriDori 2 years ago
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JoelnJulie 2 years ago
Fit a larger turbo and it will make the same power on less boost but response/spool will suffer.
Its all a compromise.
+ its running pump gas and its not a US dyno. :P
JoelnJulie 2 years ago 6
hahaha true that, still loving the setup!
InitialDoriDori 2 years ago
@JoelnJulie A larger turbo will make the same power on less boost? How exactly would this be so? Since you have not proposed any nitrous injection, then exactly where does the extra oxygen come from to make the same power that was had on the higher boost level with the smaller turbo?
MrRotormaster1 1 year ago
@MrRotormaster1 becuase a bigger turbo creates less heat, so the air will charge be more dense, so there is your extra oxygen! In theory a bigger turbo will make the same power on less boost, or more power on the same boost.
spinnanz 1 year ago
@spinnanz The "air charge" would not be more dense at it is the exact same PSI, i.e. same density. I think what you mean is that the air would be denser with oxygen. I did not take this into account because with so many factors and variables left unaccounted for and not considered into the equation, real life results seldom replicate what is predicted through theory.
MrRotormaster1 1 year ago
@MrRotormaster1 and if an air charge is cooler at the same psi, it will be more dense and therefore carry more oxygen. I still maintain a bigger turbo will produce less heat making the same boost as a smaller turbo (although it wont make the same boost as low in the rpm range). So will make more power at the same boost
spinnanz 1 year ago
@spinnanzFor example, due to the fact that turbochargers run on heat, the smaller turbo with less heat dispersion will become hotter under the same conditions than will a larger turbo with more heat dispersion (more volume for heat to spread through). This mean that the smaller turbo is inherently able to make better use of heat that would normally be waisted through the exhaust and heat dispersion on a larger turbo. The smaller turbo, is thus inherently more efficient.
MrRotormaster1 1 year ago
@MrRotormaster1 Id have to disagree with a few of your points, firstly that a turbo runs on heat. To me this is not correct, they run on exhaust gas flow, not the heat from the exhaust gas flow. Secondly that a smaller turbo is more efficient. If this were the case, why not have one small turbo on each cylinder? A turbo of any size has its max efficiency when its flowing a particular volume. So one turbo can be more efficent than another, but only in its window of efficiency
spinnanz 1 year ago
Its only that much because the guy wanted it like that, its not a drag monster its just a normal DD probably gonna hit the drag strip l8er on but who knows
Importdrifter 2 years ago
very nice car!! :)
ekturbo2 3 years ago
nice seeing you guys on NZPC last night, why not invest in a dynapak hub? worth the money:)
JJchingy 3 years ago
what turbo u running?
dezaa0 4 years ago
to4z
RIPSNZ 4 years ago
why not spl t51r??
marek0086 3 years ago
because we did not want 1000hp, we wanted an extreemly responsive 750 or so.
On the road this car is amazing, the TO4z is hard to beat for a road car with a stock box.
RIPSNZ 3 years ago
@RIPSNZ extremely responsive 750? sounds like a more powerful version of the mines r34 lol
Kuriousgorge87 11 months ago
@RIPSNZ How do you think this car would run presently with a PTE6765?
teddysevo8you 4 months ago
@teddysevo8you I don't know, we having done any testing with any of those turbo's sorry.
RIPSNZ 4 months ago
Did the car just hadoken? I wouldn't put it past her. I still can't decide which car is sexier.
getoffmyinternet 4 years ago
nice flame thro at the end
sprtn1o69 4 years ago