Senna Prost Crash 1990 Suzuka Reverse Angle

[AstonDBS90]

Ayrton Senna was a true racer, contreversial may be, but a man with passion, glowing every race up until that fateful day on May 1st 1994.

If You see the coverage before the race when Senna took his helmet off, He NEVER did this, but All i know is Senna Died because of a Steering failure because a weld broke when the Williams team made an extension to the steering colloum. RIP SENNA, TRUE RACER

[red2lucas]

I would have done exactly the same thing to that French lapdog Prost. He did it to Senna the year before.

[DHSeaVixen]

I think its worth noting that Prost had seen the death of his friend Villeneuve because he he wanted to beat Pironi so badly. And then, he had Pironi drive up the back of him at a rain drenched Hockenheim and smash his legs. Prost himself admitted that these events changed him 'as a man and a driver'. To be honest, I do not blame him.

I also think that this is a reason that anyone calling Prost a coward for stopping in the rain amongst other things have not much ground to stand on.

[nickie2011]

You can see all the difference btw Senna and Prost right here: Prost crashes at a ridiculous chicane, at 50 mph, Senna crashes at the 1st corner at 230 mph. A matter of style...

[NeLLiKL]

This was his revenge for 1989 Prost's behaviour



[jakubkrcma]

Senna - the definition of what a racer should be like. ABSOLUTE RESPECT

[TheMezsargs]

Senna is the dirtiest driver ever. Schumacher compared to hum is angel.

[MrSaintSoulja]

@TheMezsargs he drove like that to be intimidating, it was the other drivers choice whether they were going to crash, usually they pulled out of it, its incredible that he did it

[fordrule888]

@MrSaintSoulja it's interesting though how he was like that and yet he was very compassionate for driver safety, for instance when he risked his own life to save that of Eric Comas at Spa in '92.

[MrSaintSoulja]

@fordrule888 yea he was an extrememly compassionate person and help out in many causes around the world for charity and other things, he was also one of the most determined people to win in f1 history

[FRAFPDD]

Senna was the faster driver, Prost was the smarter. Thats all that needs to be said.

Dont get why Sennas 88-89 DNF's dont count btw, he DNF'd cause he was hard on his car, Prost had the same car and he made it finish races. Thats why Jenson finished more races in 2010 then Lewis, cause hes smooth and not agressive. Senna was win or DNF, Prost was happy to pick up the points, and still be faster then half the grid.

BOTH legends and anyone dissing the one or the other is an idiot.

[radomer]

@FRAFPDD they are BOTH legends. But we should prefer to see them RACING for position one and not for the points. Thats why we dont like Alonso. The races become boring and.... the drivers are no longer racers if they dont fight for no1

[LouieGee]

@FRAFPDD That's a statement from someone that does not know anything about Senna or racing. Senna was never "hard" on his car, his mechanics and engineers say so. Do you think that the ELECTRICAL FAILURE he suffered in the USA was his fault? You have to be an ignorant to say that. Do you think that his clutch failure (which made him spin) in British GP was his fault? This two retirements only would put Senna ahead of Prost in the final standings...

[FRAFPDD]

@LouieGee Fuck off you Senna fanboy.

[LouieGee]

@FRAFPDD You clearly have some nice arguments. Sorry, now I see how much you understand about F1 racing...

[FRAFPDD]

@LouieGee When i post a nice little big up to both Senna and Prost, my two favourite drivers ever, and you proceed to go on about how Senna was this and that and Sennas shit smelt of roses, a fuck off is all you deserved quite frankly. Im fed up of Senna fanboys that will have a go at you if you dont masturbate over him.

I called Senna a legend and you still moan. Senna wasnt untouchable you know.

[LouieGee]

@FRAFPDD Senna wasn't untouchable, but "he was 'hard' on his car" is a very ignorant statement. What I said is not some ignorant comment made by a fan, it is the opinion from the PROFESSIONALS that worked with both Senna and Prost..

Takeo Kuishi (honda engineer) and Gordon Murray (McLaren engineer) both say that Senna another level. Kuishi said Senna was far away from Prost and Murray said "he was even better at the setups and race strategy, bluffing to Prost on many occasions".

[FRAFPDD]

@LouieGee But he was harder on his car then Prost, as such at least one of his retirements was due to this, just look at Senna onboard at suzuka and then Prost, Senna goes down a whole extra gear at the final chicane to aid engine braking, in the short run that gives him a faster lap, but it wears out the engine long term. Its little things like that.

As for the strategy, youll find Senna nicked Prosts setups from 88-89, and that is a fact.

[LouieGee]

@FRAFPDD What makes you lie like that? Perhaps YOU are the fanboy around here... according to the engineers, Senna was better than Prost when giving feedback to the engineers, as well as in car setups. So NO, what you said is not a "fact", it's a LIE.

And NO, Senna was never "hard" on his car. His engineers say so. I prefer to believe in his ENGINEERS, PROFESSIONALS that worked with him, than in a nobody on the internet. Besides, you said something about Suzuka. Did he retire in Suzuka?

[Shogo5000]

@LouieGee His engineers ? Honda gave better engines to Senna in 88 & 89... confirmed by Nobuhiko Kawamoto, Jo Ramirez & Otmar Szafnauer

[LouieGee]

@Shogo5000 That is a complete and UTTER LIE. Their engines were delivered by Honda on sealed boxes and raffled in front of both drivers and their respective mechanics. And please, show me an interview of Ramirez or Kawamoto saying such absurd.

[lucianoestivill]

@FRAFPDD aGREE 100%. I AM A SENNA FAN, but it seems you always have to suck his balls, otherwise you are a "Prost/Mansell/Piquet/Schuey fan" or you "don't understand about F1". Bullshit. I love the guy, but this action in Suzuka 90 was shameful, as 1989 action could be as well..... If He had been untouchable, He would had won 1989 title no matter what Prost or Balestre would have done. Similarly, He had won 1990 title without this horror... All of us are human beings, incluing Senna...

[TheOriginalGayman]

all the people who are saying that schumi isn't the greatest because of his dirty games, senna was no different. they both play/played dirty, and senna should have been disqualified for this like schumi was in -97.

[khaos5253]

@TheOriginalGayman it was payback from the year before. call it even and move on, they did!

[philateliceun]

@TheOriginalGayman yeah exactly and this was in my opinion a far more reckless and dangerous move. This was after the long straight, look how fast these cars are going. People just hate michael schumacher. Remember last years incident with schumacher and barichello? Look at the 88 portugal GP, senna did almost the exact same thing. People are just stupid, like they call teams cheaters for team orders while 20 years ago it was considered strategy.

[TheOriginalGayman]

@philateliceun yes. just because someone is dead, doesn't make him a god.

[nickie2011]

@TheOriginalGayman he was a God way before dying...

[TheOriginalGayman]

@nickie2011 a god, no. a great driver, yes.

[nickie2011]

@TheOriginalGayman repeat with me: A G-O-D. The man had more things, on and off the track, than most of the people...

[philateliceun]

@TheOriginalGayman And I forgot to mention that the cars in those days were much more dangerous then they were in schumachers time and especially now.

[LouieGee]

@TheOriginalGayman And Prost should've been disqualified for 89, Balestre should also have been.

[hgtpunto]

lame driving, of mr "racing is in my blood"....

Thats not the way to win a champion....

[WatanukiF1]

0:06 - WTF? Is there a Goku/Dragon Ball banner?

[mesenegrel]

Yes, Senna ran into Prost, and it happened because he was afraid of losing the championship much like Prost the year before and Schumi in 94 and 97.

It's not because the guy died racing that he would become the best thing since sliced bread and righteousness incarnate. Look at MJ before and after he died - how opinions change huh?

[Godznrg4u]

All the fools commenting on here about this crash must watch it again! Senna does not run into Prost, he made an inside move, Prost must have seen him and turned into Senna, MY WORD... what are you people watching, The most you could say was that the pass was reckless, but Senna made many bold passes in his career, but I've never seen him intentionaly turn into someone like you know who did more than once.

[bloodysharkattack]

senna madness

[machvelocy]

and the world curses and despise schumacher for squeezing barrichello?

drivers in 80s does much worse than that, no penalty

[dexkeldex]

If Schumacher had been racing in the 80's in the style that he does he would have gotten away with more things just like senna did. Senna was exceptional but he was no angel. If senna was racing now he would have been kicked out of the championship for this. It's not a dig against senna, it's just how attitudes have changed over the years.

[SaradominStrikes]

If Schumacher is a cheater for -94, why aint Senna a cheater for this?

[X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X]

@SaradominStrikes

Because Prost crashed Senna out in 1989. Prost became world champion with a crash in 1989 and Senna became world champion with a crash in 1990. That´s fairness =).

[MrMangoFace22]

@SaradominStrikes exactly... If Lewis Hamilton was to do something like this, he would be renowned throughout the world as a cheater, but somehow the 'amazing' Ayrton Senna gets away with it :/

[amisven]

Prost never learned to live with the superior driving of Senna and decided to crash Ayrton the year before. It's simple, how you act, you get handled and that's what Ayrton practiced on Prost.

[saci30]

I don´t see any problem in Senna´s manouver ... He just continue his trajectory ... Prost close his door ... In 89 was scandalous .. RIDISCULOUS ... what Prost did ... The worst was not Prost crash in the Senna´s car.. was Senna fighting to back to the race .. and Prost doing politics .. and pressing Ballestre to give him the WC.... RIDICULOUS ! Shame Ballestre... Ah .. in 89 Prost burn the start...

[EnryVasco]

Hi,

I've a question. I'm looking for the race when Senna and Prost remaind one near to the other one from the start to the and of a lap. Does someone know which race was it? Thank's and sorry for my english.

[maranello55]

Prost turned into Senna at Suzuka chicane 89, now its his turn to turn into him. I call it even.

[mallamoozoo]

Not really fully even- Senna could have won both 89 AND 90 if Prost didnt start this "crash 4 title" spat. True- against the odds in 89- but possible - Senna won Japan 89 and the disqual was BS - sure he DNF'd in Adelaide but maybe would have driven differently with a title at stake.

If Balestre had also not f'ked with the grid here at Suzuka in 1990- Senna would have taken the lead at the start and won the 90 Title without this crash.

Senna was screwed TWICE by Balestre in Japan in 2 years!

[mallamoozoo]

@maranello55 And then he would have been 4 times in a row WC - historically very significant - as some claim Fangio and Schui are better because they did 4and 5 in a row respectively. Balestre STOLE something very important from senna's legacy and Senna never forgot nor forgave it! And rightly so! IBalestre's Hitlerian interference with fair procedure was disgraceful.

[Orvieta]

@maranello55 Senna wasn't even near enough in 89 to get the line into the chicane. Senna won 2 titles by taking his adversaries out, Schumacher got 1 title that way and got DSQ on the 2nd try.

I have never seen Prost taking out another driver to take his championship.

[maranello55]

@Orvieta No doubt Senna was not in the best line to take the chicane in 1989. Which would make it so wrong for Prost to turn into him in defence.

Senna would overshot the chicane and Prost would live another lap if Prost decide not to turn into Senna.

Senna took out Prost in 1990 as a defiance to FIA decision to change his pole position slot on the grid - thus kind of denying him to challenge for the title.

And Prost tried to take Senna out in 1989 chicane remember?

[Orvieta]

@maranello55 You just said without any doubt that Senna was not in the best line for the Chicane in 89, yet you say Prost took him out? Prost didn't even defend his line, as Senna outbraked himself, ofcourse Prost ran into him as he probably didn't even think someone would be there from so far away.

[maranello55]

@Orvieta Schumi tried to copy Senna so hard but all it did was only to make himself look stupid.

[radomer]

@maranello55 NO its not EVEN. Senna won and he was cancelled for no reason and he lost a championship. At the same time POLEMAN Ayrton Senna at this race in 1990 was placed in the dirty side of the grid (which was wrong offcourse)..

[DHSeaVixen]

@maranello55 I disagree. Simply for the reason that the collision in '89 was at a slow speed corner. 1990 was full tilt and on full fuel.

I have no bias towards either driver as technically, I was not born when these events took place

[1984ThoughtPolice]

@maranello55 Really, even? They were going almost flat, over 200 mph in 5th gear. Someone could have gotten badly injured from this.

[nachof248]

@maranello55 nada mas que una maniobra fue a 70 km/h y la otra a mas de 160...

yo no lo llamaria estar a mano

[kileenjj]

makes everthing schumacher did seem insignificant. what a cheat this guy was. he obviously knew he couldn't beat prost fairly. and this is PROST lol.

[billyposter]

@kileenjj You abviously dont know the history behind this incident. Go read up or change your diaper

[kileenjj]

I know exactly what this was about. And there are 0 excuses for this sort of behaviour. Again this was far more dangerous than anything Schumacher did. This was Senna acting like a petulant child.

[xpandia]

@kileenjj there is nothing dangerous in f1...everything is part of the game...they don't get millions to move cars around

[spectre1209]

Senna had bartered with officials before the race to move pole to the left of the track, where there is more grip and where it now generally is today. Upset by being told it was to be done only to find himself on the inside, Senna told himself he was not going to let Prost in first, even if he had to take them both out.

[Bernardatious]

where did you find this account of what happened?

[spectre1209]

Either in a book or magazine, don't remember.

[spectre1209]

I think it is actually on Wiki as well.

[Visor988]

History repeats itself:)

Senna very wanted to overtake Prost, but the place wasn't really good.

[Rozinete1]

Indauja 12, yr comment is ridiculous.

Watch Monaco 84 (with a toleman), Europe 93, Japan 88... Who else won without brakes? Or without some gears?

Who r u to say something like that?

For your knowledge, schummy, even Prost recognizes him as the best.

Doesn't matter what fellings y have..

[fordrule888]

@Rozinete1 and brazil 1990

[superpatagonia]

@Rozinete1 , Prost never recognize Senna as the best.... He only said Senna as the best in qualify, in a free lap.

[MrRodzilla]

after looking at this, schumacher is probably thinking why was he dq'd from the 1997 standings

[saci30]

@MrRodzilla

Sorry there is no comparison .. Are two different things .. Schumacher in 94 and 97 changed his car trajectory .. Senna in 90 didn´t freak.... just this...

Senna forever !

[xpandia]

for all the guys that do not know it or do not get it....

1...Suzuka was Honda's and Senna's circuit so i do not see how he could loose this race

2 ..even if they've had finished Prost first, Senna second.... Senna would still be champion

...but he didn't want it to end this way

he wanted to take the only thing that humans have against injustice...Revenge

[ShenkieJ]

@MrRodzilla After looking at this, Schumacher is probably thinking why he never gotten DQ'd from the 1994 standing. WHAT UP!

[sookster54]

@MrRodzilla you don't know why Schumacher was dq'd from 97 standings? He tried to intentionally ram Jacques Villeneuve off the track in the final race to keep the title.

And this wasn't intentional, the starting grid was setup wrong towards the corner. Also Prost went WIDE in that chicane in '89, he HAD it coming because he knew Senna was pushing it.

[blingadude]

@sookster54 Senna knew exactly what he was doing. It's a case of; "I will turn in and you had better not be in my way".

[Tonio31]

That's a big fuck you if I ever seen one. Although Prost had that coming for the year before. Also, you can see Prost, once again, cutting off Senna. So it's Prost's own fault.

[thebones]

Prost didn't cut off Senna, Senna didn't brake, it thus gives that impression.

[indauja12]

motherfucker senna. he died deservedly for such pathetic tricks.

[gs117]

Prost did the same thing to Senna the year before at the same track, idiot!!! Senna was also not given the pole position agreed to before the race! Learn the facts before making judgements, fool!

[indauja12]

i know the facts better than you think. senna is a disgrace for the sport. fuck him and his fans.

[sikknote666]

Although he does remind me a little of Alonso in this sanitized and purile F1 era..... (Alonso is a far better driver though)

[sikknote666]

Senna was always on his 'own' racetrack and unfortunately the inevitable happened. There have been many others before that pushed the cheating/justified boundaries and survived and there have been many others since that haven't. When Senna died in 1994 F1 was so huge it was inevitable he would become an icon. It's a shame that others didn't receive such recognition as there were far greater talents that were lost in years gone by.

[sunaru5]

Wel done Ayrton,  you did your own justice, though i have great respect for Prost.

We miss you so much.

[jamesmayistheman]

great video! Five stars

[RothmansRenaultF1]

See! Senna held his line. Prost closed the door, and he lost the title! That is all the footage you need.

[shoemichael]

no, senna crashed on purpose. senna was a wreckless and dangerous person

[ozlnd]

Bloody mongeral act.