I just read that the Belgium Embassy has finally granted Samuel a passport after Laurent and Peter won their latest appeal....I hope this is true! I have been praying for the whole family...It seems as if they will finally have their son home...Thank God!
I wish that you get Samuel back home and get to see your child grow. We will follow your case, sign petitions, demonstrate if needed (i'm in Barcelona) or do whatever you need to help. Good luck and I hope the latest news of 18th is the light at the end of the tunnel. Gregory.
Press release from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Belgium (February 18th 2011)
Following the recent ruling by the Court in Brussels on Samuel Ghilain - who currently resides in Ukraine - Foreign Affairs will comply with the court order to deliver a passport to the child.
it seems the battle for Laurent and Peter to get their son home is finally at it's end!
Laurent & Peter, please get in touch with me. I work in Brussels for Associated Press, the international news agency, in and I would like to talk with you. My e-mail is dmelvin@ap.org. Laurent et Peter, envoyez-moi un mot, s'il vous plait. Je travaille a Bruxelles pour Associated Press, une agence de press internationale, et je voudrais parler avec vous. Vous pouvez me contacter a dmelvin@ap.org.
YES!! UPDATE : On the 15th of february a Belgian judge decided that the child can be brought to Belgium, as Laurent is the biological father .The still have to sign some papers etc... However the attorney of the State can still appeal within 1 month. Although Peter doesn't think that will happen, he said on the news of VRT één (TVdutch part of Belgium) that "you never know" of course. Thanks for everybody who signed the petition and prayers. Gay♥ and greetzz fr Steven of Holebis ♥♂♂,♀♀♥
it's a shame that even today in european countries stuff like these happen. Stupid goverments that put such hardness on couples who want to have children. It's an irony to want to be a parent and some stupid law won't allow you. A STUPID LAW. good luck to the couple, hope you get your son back. and don't worry about anything, if you love him a lot and look after him everything will bejust fine with him. kids just need love. and everyhing is fixable
MOVE to Ukraine, get your kid and if you don't like Ukraine...move elsewhere. I would move the F our of Belgium and quick for putting me & my child through that much grief.
How about they divorce, fly to Ukraine and marry the surrogate (who is the legal mother?), return with her and the baby to Belgium (won't that be legal?), keep the baby and send the surrogate back after a while? Then, they can remarry again.
@panto880 Actually, surrogates aren't legal parents. Even though they are the biological parent, a surrogate mother cannot legally claim the child as their own.
this is awful, they are good people, they should have their kid with them, i realy hope this will all turn out for the better, for the childs sake. Guys, dont ever give up.
It breaks my heart to see these two good men denied fatherhood to their child. There are so many injustices in the world and it's a shame that this kind of thing is happening in Belgium, a Western European nation.
I clearly don't understand this. There was a DNA test involved and one of the guys is his biological father. There why the heck is it that he was denied Belgian citizenship????
No one can separate a father and son, and no one is ever allowed to do so. That's totally uncivilized and inhumane﹗ F that law! Law should protect people but never put a baby at risk of being adopted by someone but his own father! That's farcical and nonsensical. F that gov!
My heart is broken. This couple needs their son! Their son needs them! This is ridiculous. I am furious. Can I adopt Samuel and then take him to his parents? Can someone do this?
So the biological children of Belgians don't get automatic citizenship? GOD BLESS AMERICA!! EUROPE ISN'T SO ENLIGHTENED AFTER ALL! That bureaucrat's face says it all. He doesn't give a damn, just as long as he keeps stamping those papers......
@gigglerforcoolrunnin No you're wrong about American children, if you're born to an American parent, you are an automatic citizen, no matter where you're born!!! Please do some reading! If you're an American, you're ignorant of your own country's law.......that's rather sad!
I'm currently living in Belgium, and have been for a while now - I can tell you, if nothing changes SUPER fast in terms of their government (which it won't), this kid will be in university by the time a decision is handed down.
i cried :'(
XlilyXsillyXcat 1 day ago
This is heartbreaking.
JBbookfreak 4 months ago
So sad. :(
DarkPhoenixRising 8 months ago
That's nice story..
Hope the consul in Brussels will issue visa for me a visit a friend visum.. I am from PHILIPPINES..Pray for me..
KIMODZKO 9 months ago
Support!!!!!!!!
Will be a lovely family!!!!!
AlejGaGa 1 year ago
really congrats.
they must be good fathers.
TheManLord 1 year ago
Congratulations to them! They finally got their son back! :)
lordart9 1 year ago
@roelvanacker Why is the prosecutor appealing in the first place?
ultraconservative 1 year ago
I just read that the Belgium Embassy has finally granted Samuel a passport after Laurent and Peter won their latest appeal....I hope this is true! I have been praying for the whole family...It seems as if they will finally have their son home...Thank God!
goodgirlkay 1 year ago
I wish that you get Samuel back home and get to see your child grow. We will follow your case, sign petitions, demonstrate if needed (i'm in Barcelona) or do whatever you need to help. Good luck and I hope the latest news of 18th is the light at the end of the tunnel. Gregory.
gregouss 1 year ago
*** GREAT NEWS TODAY! ***
Press release from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Belgium (February 18th 2011)
Following the recent ruling by the Court in Brussels on Samuel Ghilain - who currently resides in Ukraine - Foreign Affairs will comply with the court order to deliver a passport to the child.
it seems the battle for Laurent and Peter to get their son home is finally at it's end!
-roel
roelvanacker 1 year ago
@roelvanacker Hi Roel, such great news !!!
I hope it's not another false positive message. Do buy De Standaard of yesterday + today. (!!!)
With reactions on this + "anonymous spermdonation and surrogacy" by a gay Flemish professor, + a lady for childrights today). Twice 1 whole page.
I'd like 2 ask to upload (I can't) if possible the news of a couple of days ago (the part bout Samuel
of course). It's still at deredactie dt be
Gay♥ + greetzz van Steven van het kanaal Holebis ♥♂♂,♀♀♥
Holebis 1 year ago
@Holebis the clip from VRT news is posted in reply to this video (GOOD news for Samuel, see below)
-roel
roelvanacker 1 year ago
Laurent & Peter, please get in touch with me. I work in Brussels for Associated Press, the international news agency, in and I would like to talk with you. My e-mail is dmelvin@ap.org. Laurent et Peter, envoyez-moi un mot, s'il vous plait. Je travaille a Bruxelles pour Associated Press, une agence de press internationale, et je voudrais parler avec vous. Vous pouvez me contacter a dmelvin@ap.org.
mdspenser 1 year ago
Don't ever give up on your son - good luck!!
tynkkynen1 1 year ago
YES!! UPDATE : On the 15th of february a Belgian judge decided that the child can be brought to Belgium, as Laurent is the biological father .The still have to sign some papers etc... However the attorney of the State can still appeal within 1 month. Although Peter doesn't think that will happen, he said on the news of VRT één (TVdutch part of Belgium) that "you never know" of course. Thanks for everybody who signed the petition and prayers. Gay♥ and greetzz fr Steven of Holebis ♥♂♂,♀♀♥
Holebis 1 year ago
THEY HAVE SAMUEL IM SOOO HAPPY I SAW THEM ON THE NEWS !
and i searched about them and i found this i cried and i crieed
taraTastic100 1 year ago
SHAME, shame, shame on you Belgian government!!! I thought our country was gay friendly? What happened?
thermo81 1 year ago
it's a shame that even today in european countries stuff like these happen. Stupid goverments that put such hardness on couples who want to have children. It's an irony to want to be a parent and some stupid law won't allow you. A STUPID LAW. good luck to the couple, hope you get your son back. and don't worry about anything, if you love him a lot and look after him everything will bejust fine with him. kids just need love. and everyhing is fixable
lesgaybitrans 1 year ago
Pffff heartbreaking, Good luck guys !! you really deserve your son... don't give up !!!
EricAlphen 1 year ago
Sent to my friends !
Gay ♥ from GayGroupstube
GAYGROUPSTUBE 1 year ago
Ongelofelijk !
Een belgische biologische vader (dna-test) geeft het kind geen recht op een
belgische identiteitsaart ? Dit vind ik bevreemdend. Wet inzake surrogaatschap of niet, hij is de biologische vader.
Ik vraag me af of indien ze in België was bevallen, dat Laurent het kind gewoon had kunnen aangeven als zijn kind ?
Misschien moet onze organisatie zich burgerlijke partij stellen en moet er klacht ingediend worden wegens discriminatie.
vgl. QUEERTY dt com
Holebis ♥♂♂,♀♀♥
GAYGROUPSTUBE 1 year ago
Good luck Peter and Laurent!! I hope this is resolved very soon for Samuel's sake.
jm0008 1 year ago
The child belongs with his dad and his husband---not in some orphanage.
MIJVI 1 year ago
This is heartbreaking.
kittylynch 1 year ago
Come to Argentine. Here they will be recognized as sons due our laws.
matibenav 1 year ago
I'm just sad to hear this...I hope it will work out very soon...
Revan46 1 year ago
MOVE to Ukraine, get your kid and if you don't like Ukraine...move elsewhere. I would move the F our of Belgium and quick for putting me & my child through that much grief.
LacedwCruelty 1 year ago
@LacedwCruelty Are you high?! Move to the Ukraine as a gay couple? Yes, I'm sure that would greatly improve their quality of life. D'oh!
DirkVanuitDelft 1 year ago
How about they divorce, fly to Ukraine and marry the surrogate (who is the legal mother?), return with her and the baby to Belgium (won't that be legal?), keep the baby and send the surrogate back after a while? Then, they can remarry again.
panto880 1 year ago
@panto880 Actually, surrogates aren't legal parents. Even though they are the biological parent, a surrogate mother cannot legally claim the child as their own.
CptnMoosingle 1 year ago
@CptnMoosingle
the mother is not claiming the child. she gave him up right after the birth
the mother is not the issue
gigglerforcoolrunnin 1 year ago
@panto880 The woman has gone on to do another surrogacy. It seems that she's a professional surrogate........
goodgirlkay 1 year ago
Dan ganas de llorar
YOPENDEJITO 1 year ago
what a sad story. i hope everything turns out for the best very soon.
mrlovespread2006 1 year ago
OMG this breaks my heart as a parent, as a human being. I feel for you guys and I hope that you can bring your son home soon! Hugs
migonza67 1 year ago
This break my heart.. I hope and pray that Samuel will be able to come home to his loving fathers soon.
Emdiea 1 year ago
I hope you get through all that successful. I wish you the best!!!!
KlofischOriginal 1 year ago
i'm sure everything will be ok and one day Sam will be with you guys.
duclaw1987 1 year ago
I hope so much there will be a solution at the end
SIRC0L0RS 1 year ago
This is wierd. Belgium allowed same sex marriage but not the surrogate? It's just heart breaking to see what happened.
sykr23 1 year ago
this is awful, they are good people, they should have their kid with them, i realy hope this will all turn out for the better, for the childs sake. Guys, dont ever give up.
jeangunst1966 1 year ago
It breaks my heart to see these two good men denied fatherhood to their child. There are so many injustices in the world and it's a shame that this kind of thing is happening in Belgium, a Western European nation.
I clearly don't understand this. There was a DNA test involved and one of the guys is his biological father. There why the heck is it that he was denied Belgian citizenship????
treetri88 1 year ago
No one can separate a father and son, and no one is ever allowed to do so. That's totally uncivilized and inhumane﹗ F that law! Law should protect people but never put a baby at risk of being adopted by someone but his own father! That's farcical and nonsensical. F that gov!
kenkenka 1 year ago
i dont even kno what to say. im speechless. and i just........smh
jukaufman 1 year ago
My heart is broken. This couple needs their son! Their son needs them! This is ridiculous. I am furious. Can I adopt Samuel and then take him to his parents? Can someone do this?
takeapxr 1 year ago
best of luck to you guys, this is a truly horrifying situation. That child belongs with his biological father, not in an orphanage...!
koreanricequeen 1 year ago
So the biological children of Belgians don't get automatic citizenship? GOD BLESS AMERICA!! EUROPE ISN'T SO ENLIGHTENED AFTER ALL! That bureaucrat's face says it all. He doesn't give a damn, just as long as he keeps stamping those papers......
goodgirlkay 1 year ago
@goodgirlkay
if they weren't born in Belgium they don't and neither are american kids if they were born not on american soil.
gigglerforcoolrunnin 1 year ago
@gigglerforcoolrunnin No you're wrong about American children, if you're born to an American parent, you are an automatic citizen, no matter where you're born!!! Please do some reading! If you're an American, you're ignorant of your own country's law.......that's rather sad!
goodgirlkay 1 year ago
this video made me cry
beboka8 1 year ago
this has actually made me cry, it breaks my heart
sobeit42 1 year ago
I'm currently living in Belgium, and have been for a while now - I can tell you, if nothing changes SUPER fast in terms of their government (which it won't), this kid will be in university by the time a decision is handed down.
rosselliot 1 year ago
this breaks my heart :(
mancetube 1 year ago
This is so sad. I hope this kid grows up and brings hell upon them.
VoteYou 1 year ago
Niet de Belgen, gewoon dat er geen wet voor is. Dan is het gewoon onmogelijk blijkbaar.
monstertruckess 1 year ago
verschikkelijk,.. zijn die belgen nu echt gek geworden.. dit kan niet waar zijn!
peterdz 1 year ago