I think he knew the last guy lied because at the first fact (the lie), he didn't look at derren. for the other 2 facts, he looked at derren after "thinking"" the facts
Hahaha that was awesome. This guy is pure entertainment, I love it. I also love that he doesn't bullshit people by saying he has "pyschic powers" just to make more money or fame either.
@entehrend The engine is the easiest thing to lie about, and is also the part of the car that is most commonly lied about. Anything else can easily be seen.
what a piloe of crap program, I feel for that shows first episoedes but knew directly after it was just faked just like, blaine and the idiot chris angel
For the last guy, on the first fact, he did not look Derren in the eye after he thought, he continued to avert his eyes from Derren and stared at, probably what would be the engine of the car. For the next two facts, he continued to stare at the engine, but because these were facts he had in his head, he did not need to look at the individual parts to think of them.
the third guy's eyes especially gave him away. eyes moved towards certain side when brain's processing mathematics/number. easy to deduct after that he was thinking about the "engine" which is pretty broad if you think about it. could mean anything from horsepower to mileage.
I somehow understand how he knew its something got to do with numbers
(the guy had the calculating look and he was taking a longer time to confirm 'fact' no. 1 compared to 2 and 3, hence the lie since i imagine the salesmen to know the facts at the back of their head thus changing the truth and thinking what fact to change would take a slightly longer time compared to the facts they already knew at their fingertips. )
but where the heck did the engine part comes from?
Darren has so many sublimital context in his speech and speaks so quickly ... look, as he speaks to you directly at the very begining :) 4 ex. in the episode ,,Paying with paper,, he tells us quickly: ,,Its hard to beleave, but in America Im not the massive and lovable star you know me as here,, ...speaks for itself... check out the very begining of this part, as he speaks to you ;) njoy
Nah even if he guessed it would be more of a 33% correct rather then 25% correct cause of defense mechanisms. Your mind would automatically make 1st statement true
I think the reason for Derren's catch on the last guy was his lack of eye contact. If you'll notice in 2 and 3, he nods his head, as he does in number one, but then looks at him quickly afterwards. He doesn't do that in number one, probably on a subconscious notion that avoiding eye contact will make it more inconspicuous - but that's what gives it away.
@HMachProductions actually, when its serious lies, people make more eye contact, also watch his corners of his mouth, it doesn't move while he thinks of fact 1, for fact 2 and 3 it very quickly semi-smiles.
Well I was actually praising his skill too so there is no argument.
However to address your statement- "THEY consider it cheating them out of something"; someone's arbitrary claim to being cheated is not evidence of it nor is the accused responsible to prove otherwise beyond the mutual trust required in maintaining a business relationship.
second guy: knew the routine, he was thinking of a lie the entire time, and threw it in with a pause... pretty easy
Third Guy: Fact 1 was the lie... right after he said fact 1, he refused to make eye contact... he was probably feeling guilty. After fact 2 and 3, he made eye contact, showing confidence. Derrin jumped in early but he probably picked up on many little things I missed.
Note: all three salesmen were good, they didnt look around searching for a lie, they kept focus.
first guy: fact 3 he blinked the same as when derrin says 'lie' while describing the routine... he heard the word lie, reacted a certain way... and then reacted the same way when he was trying to lie. ALSO!!! "fact number three, pretty much... that its... *raises eyebrows* an eight cylinder" fact 3 was the only time he raises his eyebrows, classic tell. Fact 4 was full of blinks, but eyebrows were steady, blinks probably due to the recent lie, and then being put on the spot for one more truth.
@NZbroncos He has been banned from most casinos. I'm sure he has enough money from his "brand" rather than have to obtain it by cheating people. He actually seems very ethical even though he makes his money by exploiting an unethical profession. lol
@dreadrocksean I don't consider it "cheating people" personally. I think he is amazing, and I study NLP myself, but to people or companies he is getting money from by using these skills THEY consider it cheating them out of something. I agree with you that he just has a heads up, and is better at what he does than what they do, and that gives him the advantage. That's a good thing in my opinion.
i think he "knew" it was fact #1 b/c statistically speaking it should have been.
he goes through three guys and demonstrates the entire procedure each time on each person....by the third time, the third person knows what to expect and therefore A) already has at least one lie on hand and B) has the lie on hand before having the truth on hand about w/e the subject material is.
although im sure some of this guy's stuff is bogus, a la criss asshole, most of it is straight psychology and such
I must say this. Fact #1, Derren is very good judging people on slight body language. Fact #2, I want to kill Derren. I watched 12 hours of him and very very tire. I don't know how to stop watching this. I am soooo tired. :)
I just watched this video for 3 times but I notice something, look at derren brown's finger when he says "number 1", he uses his thumb (subliminally means right) and the "number two" he uses his thumb and his index finger (subliminally means correct or check".
I hope this help to figure how derren manipulates this 3 guys. : )
well the first two guys both said the cars were 8 cylinders. no way either of those cars had 8 cylinders lol. I could have gotten both of those right!
i only got the first one right cause i learned people generally tend to pad lies behind at least 2 facts so it had to be the 3rd or 4th one and i guessed 3rd
the second one i didnt get even though Brown makes it sound so obvious
and the third one i thought was gonna lie on the 4th cause the first lied on the 3rd and the seond lied on the 2nd but i was wrong
Darren was looking for the minor gestures between the 4 answers. The first and 3rd guy had different gestures when they were lying. The 2nd kid just jumped straight to the lie in his 2nd thing cuz he was REALLY thinking about it.. and he couldn't wait to say it... thus he jumped the gun and gave the clue!
You can find out if the guy is lying if his one gesture or movement is different from all the others. You can also determine that he is telling the truth if he overreacts like the second guy on fact #4. People who overdo it try to make other people THINK they are lying, when they are actually telling the truth.
While I don't believe everything in his shows, I appreciate him because he gets me thinking. Sure it's easy for me to say "This is all faked crap" but I dont. I admire Derren Brown as a person might admire an author of a fictional book. You like their ideas, and the concepts put forward, and the way they present those concepts.
The last guy was also obvious. When he says the first fact he does not look at Derren (because he is hiding), after saying the second fact he looks at Derren, after saying the third fact he also looks at Derren, he would probably also look at Derren after saying the last fact.
@Law19157 no this guy is far better and cooler then david blaine....Imagine david blaine in a coffin with Derren Brown standing over it Victorious.....thats the comparison
its very easy to explain the last guy. out of the 3 'facts' he thought of, only when he thought the first one did he NOT make eye contact with derren after saying 'OK'. as for guessing whether it was something to do with the engine, well the previous 2 guys were both lying about the engine too, specifically the cylinders, just like Derren suggested this guy was even though it was about capacity.
Still like Derren but this one aint that fascinating.
Lie detection is something you can train, however for an average civilian they can only spot lying 50% of the time, even the ones who claim they are very good at lie detection.
thats right, everthing he guess, because the person in front of you shows reactions for a certain seconds of time, just watch "lie to me" and then you can lean it by yourself ;) trust me, it is very easy to see when someone didn't tell you the truth ;)
why is youtube so....SHIT???? It cannot even play the video without stopping to buffer ever 4 seconds. Shame on youtube...the twats! I have to download it to enable undisturbed viewing.
ooh, wow, i learned something else from him ^_^ you can see in a persons eyes when he switches from the right and left side of brrain, thats why he knew he was thinking numbers :D
I don't know anything about NLP or suggestability, but I do know body language - because I have an interest in poker. Notice how Derren gets each of them to answer yes (truthful) to questions before they even get to the 4 facts. This is like a "control" response, similar to how people operate a lie detector. I think he then uses this "control" response, and factors in eye movement, top lip, breathing, tone, speed and general body language, to weed out which 1 of the 4 facts is a porky.
I too haven't studied NLPin detail, but knowing that DB has studied it, I can see how his attention to facial detail comes out in his art - for example his portraits of Clint Eastwood, Orson Wells and other celebrities. He emphasizes and exagerates the unique details in people's faces.
@Tehui1974 Pick up "Instant Rapport" by Michael Brooks.Its the most unique work written for the general population on NLP. Read it thoroughly, then test the material on people in your world. the results may prove interesting. good luck, friend.
@Tehui1974 i dont think thats the case since he only asks one question to the three of them at once making it hard to notice all body signs of each of them.
also the first question made them focus on the arrogance not the truth
u act differently when telling the truth and when someone said something pretty rude
this is something that i feel most people could do if they took the time to actually look at people while they were being spoken to. sadly most people don't do this
you cant hypnotise someone if they dont want to be hypnotised. Its not how it works. You cant just walk up to someone and mind control them. Hypnotism is suggestion. Everyone is suggestible but not always to the same thing. Thats why sometimes these things dont work
like that. but the most interesting thing are these "salesmen". They look like some figures out of "The Soranos". "He buddy, wot? Ya dont like my car? I ll break ya leg if ya dont buy it."
Well Derren had luck that the cameraman was with him AND that it was daylight...."WOT? Ya say to me that I am lying...buddy, nobody tells Eddie he is lying..."
derren brown does rock, he is one of the greatest of all times in his field and the best of it, he doesn;t pretend to have any psychic powers like that Uri Geller charlatan(the one with the bending spoons from the 70s). He always says what he does are tricks...
man this guy rocks!!! I really wanna learn something about subthreshold not sure if its how its called in english if anyone knows what i mean and where to find something about it please respond
thats true, but not at all used in this clip. What you are referencing only occurs when you are visualizing an image, not thinking words (unless you visualize the word typed. Also, that NLP has to do with recalling a memory or constructing an image youve never seen, very different from this, which is just body language
People should read some of his stuff or listen to his audiobooks, maybe even learn some basic NLP techniques before saying this guy is anything but a genius. Elegant, sophistocated, intelligent, man! Those who'd like to say anything less should go on his show and DISAPPEAR NOW! Derren, you da man!
hey, if you have time, can you explain to me exactly what this man is doing? is it some kind of science, art, or what? i really wanna know, its amazing!
@superduperpooper7 Look up NLP, or Neuro linguistic programming. You can also look up "eye catalepsy" to learn more about body language, and how to read people. I have been practicing NLP as a sales technique for years. It's also helpful as a training tool at customer service seminars for sales employees.
@superduperpooper7 nlpteacher,com its a very new site with some help full stuff, its will be offering free info on nlp from basic to advanced, when its finished.
Im not saying all of his videos are real but is lie detection really that far fetched? Police hire professional lie detectors and there are plenty of times where you yourself caught on to someone's lie. This man has just practiced doing that. And how about we refrain from using offensive words like retard. Thank you very much.
yes lie detection among professionals is very well figured out, but the way derren sets up the situation makes it a lot easyer to spot a lie.
in this video he has 3 truths to compare with one lie. He can compare the faceial gestures with the other statements, and he can use what is common knowledge about liing. Professionals have to figure out small liing parts within huge stories. Even derren has years of practise and even he'd have to study a person for hours to find a usual lie.
I have been watching many of his videos trying to pick up on his techniques and with this video i tried applying them myself. I too was able to predict these "lies". For the 1st he said pretty much about a specific detail(engine size) which doesnt fit. For the 2nd he jumped the gun. for the third if you watch carefully the only fact he doesnt look at derren in the eye for is the first. And it was about the engine because the 2 previous guys did too.
Why the hostility? It's not necessary, especially given that it is in fact real, interrogators, detectives, and other types of criminal investigators and even company consultants use these techniques all the time. If you knew or understood ANYTHING about people's psychological patterns at all, you'd be able to tell VERY easily that this is real.
Don't be so quick to be so hostile against something you don't understand and obviously know absolutely nothing about.
Someone probably already explained it, but it's not the eye contact that gave the third guy away - he looks with his eyes for prompting to proceed the next fact. On the first one he didn't give positive signs (he didn't nod), whereas 2 and 3 he did - big give away. Derren knows he was thinking about the engine and numbers because that was the last thing the 2nd guy who was tested ended with and hence the first thing in the next guy's mind.
I think with the last guy, Derren knew the lie by the look of the man's eyes. On the first response, the man kept looking forward. With the second and third response, the man looked at Derren after he was asked to say the answer in his mind. So the fact that the man didn't look at Derren on the first response gave it away as a lie. I'm just guessing ;]
i some how knew the last guy was gonna lie at one because the other 2 guys lied at 2 and 3, and darren was suspicious about 4 on the first guy, so the last guy didn't want to choose the same number. That's why darren told him to speak it in his head.... only a random theory :D
i just thought of that before i read the comments, i think its a natural thing, you hear 3-2 you instinctivly pick 1 to correspond with the counting down to zero.
Derren always says people are predictable. I guess he knew it was going to be the first lie with the last guy because with the first guy it was the 3rd, then with the second guy the second lie... I don't know, I think there's a pattern and Derren knows it.
Actually, the solution is quite simple. He asks them to list 4 facts and lie about 1, not to make it harder for him, but to make it easier for him. He looks for subtle changes in the way the person answers or behaves when he answers, which indicate a lie. When the person is telling the truth on 3/4 of them, he gets an idea of how the person acts when telling the truth. Then he looks for the 1 time the person's behavior was different.
Well I didn't think it was hard... its one of the most basic ways of determining deception. If you read up anywhere online on how to spot a lie, most of them will tell you to watch for base-line pattern changes (maybe not those exact words).
I think we all try to do that in our dealings with people, at some time or other. But to be spot on each and every time. as brown is, would be impossible for a normal person, who was only using the principles you describe. I suspect he has something else up his sleeve.
It only seems impossible because most people don't really tune themselves in and pay as much attention as he does. Short of having this clip "set up", there is no other feasible method that could be used to determine who they were lying on.
Plus, it makes perfect sense when you consider what he tells them to do (3 truths and a lie).
On the first or 2nd guy, he even tells him about the subtle differences the guy made when he mentioned the lie.
I know how he did these!! This is so wickedly brilliant!! He knew it was the 2nd comment on the 2nd guy because he changed his EACs, for the 1st and 3rd comment he drew the comment from the right (our right, derren's right) and then drew the 2nd comment from the left. The lie is the aberration. BRILLIANT!!!!!! I'm improving in deceit detection which is very good!
lol. Thanks for the acknowledgement and reverification! I bet someone could have figured this out without even knowing about EACs and just careful, meticulous, sherlock holmes-like scrutiny of their visages and reactions.
I agree in my interpersonal communications class Chap. 6 is Non-Verbal Communication, there are many tips and such about how to tell people are lying and all sorts of unconsicous movements, altough that last one i doubt someone could get.
12 facts 1. Your reading my comment 2. Now your saying/thinking thats a stupid fact. 4. You didnt notice that i skipped 3. 5. Your checking it now. 6. Your smiling. 7. Your still reading my comment. 8. You know all you have read is true. 10. You didn't notice that i skipped 9. 11. Your checking it now. 12. You didn't notice there are only 10 facts Copy and paste to 1 video, tomorrow will be your best day ever! no matter what!
1st guy
- liar confidence smile and raised brows gave him away
2nd guy
- liar faces the liar attitude of can't wait to tell the lie and be safe
3rd guy
- as mentioned by many, not looking into derren eyes when lying
abcguk 2 months ago
I think he knew the last guy lied because at the first fact (the lie), he didn't look at derren. for the other 2 facts, he looked at derren after "thinking"" the facts
TheUglyDuckling123 3 months ago
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Not as good as the stuff in the Mindreading Exposed ebook
yeeeeahdroppingteam 3 months ago
Derren can't tell when chuck Norris tell lies
2auhsoj2 3 months ago
@2auhsoj2 Chuck Norris can't tell when Chuck Norris lies but he knows when Derren lies
TheAprilraine1 3 months ago
notice that false facts was: 3 then 2 and then 1. pure logistic?
koniu96 3 months ago
DAMN LOW TALKERS
TimTehPilot 4 months ago
fascinating
TheFamousBrett 4 months ago
Hahaha that was awesome. This guy is pure entertainment, I love it. I also love that he doesn't bullshit people by saying he has "pyschic powers" just to make more money or fame either.
ZachRose88 4 months ago
.... git mah gyun!
dannyboyinxs 4 months ago
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morehn 4 months ago
with the last guy you could see that the guy didn't actually look back at Derren when he thought of fact number 1.
sinistergazII 4 months ago 5
@sinistergazII yeah, but it would be impossible to know it was about the engine. Which is why I think it was set up
entehrend 4 months ago
@entehrend The engine is the easiest thing to lie about, and is also the part of the car that is most commonly lied about. Anything else can easily be seen.
R0b07m4n 3 months ago
what a piloe of crap program, I feel for that shows first episoedes but knew directly after it was just faked just like, blaine and the idiot chris angel
leviterande 5 months ago
For the last guy, on the first fact, he did not look Derren in the eye after he thought, he continued to avert his eyes from Derren and stared at, probably what would be the engine of the car. For the next two facts, he continued to stare at the engine, but because these were facts he had in his head, he did not need to look at the individual parts to think of them.
death4hiro 5 months ago
Derren Brown is the real life Cal Lightman
throktor1 5 months ago 2
they have been mindfucked :P
dominus800 5 months ago
that guy doing all the talking has an annoying accent
graverobber35 5 months ago
I call hacks
sdmitch16 5 months ago
Ha ha the first guy told the lies to well, so derren brown wasn't able to figure it out until after when he checked both against his reactions.
Dunam 5 months ago
the third guy's eyes especially gave him away. eyes moved towards certain side when brain's processing mathematics/number. easy to deduct after that he was thinking about the "engine" which is pretty broad if you think about it. could mean anything from horsepower to mileage.
cloverforluck 5 months ago
Imagine if this guy was your dad
Derren: What time did you get home
You: 11
Derren: ಠ_ಠ
You: 1am...
jeenyus720 6 months ago 124
@jeenyus720
dude that was a good post. one of the best i've seen lol. seen that unicode though but well done.
TeslaDRay 4 months ago
wtf?
myterah 6 months ago
If the cameras weren't there Diego would of pulled out the bat.
RToor34 7 months ago 31
Them: "Sweet ride, is it a v8?"
Me: "Pretty much ^_^"
haha wtf
TROLLERSDELIGHT 8 months ago
I somehow understand how he knew its something got to do with numbers
(the guy had the calculating look and he was taking a longer time to confirm 'fact' no. 1 compared to 2 and 3, hence the lie since i imagine the salesmen to know the facts at the back of their head thus changing the truth and thinking what fact to change would take a slightly longer time compared to the facts they already knew at their fingertips. )
but where the heck did the engine part comes from?
XtremeDrake 8 months ago
how did he know it had to do w/ numbers and the engine?
1oneinamillion 8 months ago
Or the 1st guy already said its an 8 cylinder! WTF???
M802k 9 months ago
@M802k All three cars were different.
Zelmar2194237 9 months ago
part he gave to hem.... part the gave to him...
he uses his suggestion to get his will
but also reads the body language
impressive work !
ikkenienwel 9 months ago
Edu Manzano
kevinranillo 9 months ago
In Soviet Russia we trick Derren Brown
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jasveenpuri 10 months ago
Darren has so many sublimital context in his speech and speaks so quickly ... look, as he speaks to you directly at the very begining :) 4 ex. in the episode ,,Paying with paper,, he tells us quickly: ,,Its hard to beleave, but in America Im not the massive and lovable star you know me as here,, ...speaks for itself... check out the very begining of this part, as he speaks to you ;) njoy
Petrhrabal 10 months ago
Nah even if he guessed it would be more of a 33% correct rather then 25% correct cause of defense mechanisms. Your mind would automatically make 1st statement true
xxxcurrymuncherxxx 10 months ago
I think the reason for Derren's catch on the last guy was his lack of eye contact. If you'll notice in 2 and 3, he nods his head, as he does in number one, but then looks at him quickly afterwards. He doesn't do that in number one, probably on a subconscious notion that avoiding eye contact will make it more inconspicuous - but that's what gives it away.
HMachProductions 10 months ago
@HMachProductions actually, when its serious lies, people make more eye contact, also watch his corners of his mouth, it doesn't move while he thinks of fact 1, for fact 2 and 3 it very quickly semi-smiles.
NorthCountryOFFICIAL 3 months ago
Did I think I heard him say I want you to think (engine) each thing in your head. Anyone else? I heard phonological dissonance.
crodrigo 11 months ago
Its simple to determine, no matter if someone says a lie out loud or in their head, their pupils dilate as a reaction to it.
MrAxxcess 11 months ago
Well I was actually praising his skill too so there is no argument.
However to address your statement- "THEY consider it cheating them out of something"; someone's arbitrary claim to being cheated is not evidence of it nor is the accused responsible to prove otherwise beyond the mutual trust required in maintaining a business relationship.
dreadrocksean 1 year ago
It's pretty much an 8 cylinder l0l0l. It either is or it isn't not pretty much haha
Grunzaa 1 year ago 3
This one is real for sure
TheFrameHunters 1 year ago
who needs patrick jane when your've got darren brown
JesseOHK 1 year ago
It's pretty much an 8 cylinder ... lol?!?!?!
It either is or isn't, and even a monkey know that a compact car like that is an 8 cylinder, they're all 4 cylinder cars.
crazyaces222 1 year ago
second guy: knew the routine, he was thinking of a lie the entire time, and threw it in with a pause... pretty easy
Third Guy: Fact 1 was the lie... right after he said fact 1, he refused to make eye contact... he was probably feeling guilty. After fact 2 and 3, he made eye contact, showing confidence. Derrin jumped in early but he probably picked up on many little things I missed.
Note: all three salesmen were good, they didnt look around searching for a lie, they kept focus.
oaney 1 year ago
@oaney i agree
jangonauta 1 year ago
first guy: fact 3 he blinked the same as when derrin says 'lie' while describing the routine... he heard the word lie, reacted a certain way... and then reacted the same way when he was trying to lie. ALSO!!! "fact number three, pretty much... that its... *raises eyebrows* an eight cylinder" fact 3 was the only time he raises his eyebrows, classic tell. Fact 4 was full of blinks, but eyebrows were steady, blinks probably due to the recent lie, and then being put on the spot for one more truth.
oaney 1 year ago
didn't they all lie about the engines? Just a strange thought.....
yeshevishman 1 year ago
He could make fortune playing professional poker
NZbroncos 1 year ago
@NZbroncos actually, he is banned from Gambling, WORLDWIDE!! lols
airforcedentist 1 year ago
@NZbroncos He has been banned from most casinos. I'm sure he has enough money from his "brand" rather than have to obtain it by cheating people. He actually seems very ethical even though he makes his money by exploiting an unethical profession. lol
njdtm1971 1 year ago
@njdtm1971 How is he 'cheating people' if reading faces and body language is part of the game?
That's like saying I should be banned from football because I throw the ball too accurately.
dreadrocksean 1 year ago
@dreadrocksean I don't consider it "cheating people" personally. I think he is amazing, and I study NLP myself, but to people or companies he is getting money from by using these skills THEY consider it cheating them out of something. I agree with you that he just has a heads up, and is better at what he does than what they do, and that gives him the advantage. That's a good thing in my opinion.
njdtm1971 1 year ago
I GUESS ITS INFOWARSoCOM RELATED
mrg00ddude 1 year ago
i think he "knew" it was fact #1 b/c statistically speaking it should have been.
he goes through three guys and demonstrates the entire procedure each time on each person....by the third time, the third person knows what to expect and therefore A) already has at least one lie on hand and B) has the lie on hand before having the truth on hand about w/e the subject material is.
although im sure some of this guy's stuff is bogus, a la criss asshole, most of it is straight psychology and such
edt5481 1 year ago
He knew it was fact number one, cause he didn't look at derren........ =[
Crazee108 1 year ago
I must say this. Fact #1, Derren is very good judging people on slight body language. Fact #2, I want to kill Derren. I watched 12 hours of him and very very tire. I don't know how to stop watching this. I am soooo tired. :)
kw0s 1 year ago 3
lol people are bad liers lol but we do move a lot
only2nocrew 1 year ago
I just watched this video for 3 times but I notice something, look at derren brown's finger when he says "number 1", he uses his thumb (subliminally means right) and the "number two" he uses his thumb and his index finger (subliminally means correct or check".
I hope this help to figure how derren manipulates this 3 guys. : )
wagmalikot10 1 year ago
well the first two guys both said the cars were 8 cylinders. no way either of those cars had 8 cylinders lol. I could have gotten both of those right!
rileytimothy 1 year ago
i only got the first one right cause i learned people generally tend to pad lies behind at least 2 facts so it had to be the 3rd or 4th one and i guessed 3rd
the second one i didnt get even though Brown makes it sound so obvious
and the third one i thought was gonna lie on the 4th cause the first lied on the 3rd and the seond lied on the 2nd but i was wrong
kenshind007 1 year ago
that guy can make me buy a bag of shit :D
daswada9 1 year ago 4
Darren was looking for the minor gestures between the 4 answers. The first and 3rd guy had different gestures when they were lying. The 2nd kid just jumped straight to the lie in his 2nd thing cuz he was REALLY thinking about it.. and he couldn't wait to say it... thus he jumped the gun and gave the clue!
jibikao 1 year ago
Mmm.. the 3rd car salesman with goatee is cute!! :)
jibikao 1 year ago
You can find out if the guy is lying if his one gesture or movement is different from all the others. You can also determine that he is telling the truth if he overreacts like the second guy on fact #4. People who overdo it try to make other people THINK they are lying, when they are actually telling the truth.
gbmack2000 1 year ago
While I don't believe everything in his shows, I appreciate him because he gets me thinking. Sure it's easy for me to say "This is all faked crap" but I dont. I admire Derren Brown as a person might admire an author of a fictional book. You like their ideas, and the concepts put forward, and the way they present those concepts.
scarlotty123 1 year ago
Everything he does can be easily faked...
KaLNFoRc3R 1 year ago
@KaLNFoRc3R watch some of his live stage shows then, such as Something Wicked This Way Comes, then explain how he easily fakes all of it.
deummm 1 year ago
The last guy was also obvious. When he says the first fact he does not look at Derren (because he is hiding), after saying the second fact he looks at Derren, after saying the third fact he also looks at Derren, he would probably also look at Derren after saying the last fact.
bmwforlife46 1 year ago
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@bmwforlife46 are you really that stupid?
jostein89 1 year ago
Micheal, The big guy, He looks like the Beast from beauty and the Beast. :D
joeregal 1 year ago
If anyone wants to discuss these techniques feel free to contact me on my channel and post any comments or questions you might have.
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LightningAndRain 1 year ago
@LightningAndRain could you tell me more about exactly what is going on?
MeandmagiC 1 year ago
is he like david blaine?
Law19157 1 year ago
@Law19157 no this guy is far better and cooler then david blaine....Imagine david blaine in a coffin with Derren Brown standing over it Victorious.....thats the comparison
damagickid 1 year ago
@Law19157 david blaine does magic tricks.
Derren Brown does mind tricks/hypnotism.
One is making people look where you want them to look through "smoke and mirrors".
The other is being mindfucked using psychological knowledge.
Rweeblington 1 year ago
@Rweeblington mindfucked such a bad term hes basiclly using a very natural thing in evry human being and gets paid a bunch i would imagine could you?
haris000000 1 year ago
the first guy was an easyish read i thought... picking up on ideas of what he was thinking... now thats something interest
Sunny066 1 year ago
I'd love a bologna & cheese sandwich right now.
crankylifter 1 year ago
@crankylifter I'll have a meatball sub, please. Extra cheese. Thanks dude.
lethe56 1 year ago
1st one he stared straight ahead and gulped. in poker, someone staring at you is often bluffing, and gulping is a sign of fear.
evilsandwich2 1 year ago
cold reading and body language reading
morbidblade 1 year ago
its very easy to explain the last guy. out of the 3 'facts' he thought of, only when he thought the first one did he NOT make eye contact with derren after saying 'OK'. as for guessing whether it was something to do with the engine, well the previous 2 guys were both lying about the engine too, specifically the cylinders, just like Derren suggested this guy was even though it was about capacity.
Still like Derren but this one aint that fascinating.
massifgivswanathan 1 year ago
Darren Brown should go buy a car. When a car dealer tries to scam him, he'll see it and go, "That's a lie."
NarutoKyuubi635 1 year ago
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LightningAndRain 1 year ago
@LightningAndRain Yeah, I'm confused, how on earth does he do that? explain please.
sfgox10 1 year ago
@sfgox10 Body language :)
LightningAndRain 1 year ago
i got 2 out of 3 right :D
Jade7272 1 year ago
Lie detection is something you can train, however for an average civilian they can only spot lying 50% of the time, even the ones who claim they are very good at lie detection.
Rweeblington 1 year ago
just watch "lie to me" ;) then you know the truth ;) it could be quite easy to learn when someone didn't tell you the truth ;)
WaNNaPLaYiTLouD 1 year ago
thats right, everthing he guess, because the person in front of you shows reactions for a certain seconds of time, just watch "lie to me" and then you can lean it by yourself ;) trust me, it is very easy to see when someone didn't tell you the truth ;)
WaNNaPLaYiTLouD 1 year ago
It's called a 'read' and you can tell when someone is lying.
VOLKSN8R 1 year ago
FAIL
satanicaa 1 year ago
Maybe its not the reason but the last guy didn't nod on the lie but did on the two last one?
floggingmolly265 1 year ago
why is youtube so....SHIT???? It cannot even play the video without stopping to buffer ever 4 seconds. Shame on youtube...the twats! I have to download it to enable undisturbed viewing.
paulinaj91 1 year ago
#1 he didnt lookat him in the eye and didnt nod his head, but but did in 2 and 3
dabestplayer 1 year ago
ooh, wow, i learned something else from him ^_^ you can see in a persons eyes when he switches from the right and left side of brrain, thats why he knew he was thinking numbers :D
superlilbutterfly 1 year ago
who didint know it wasnt 3.
speakerbox123 2 years ago
that last guy lied on #1 because he wouldn't look at him after saying it in his head, but after #'s 2 and 3 his eyes looked at Darren.
wwert987 2 years ago 3
I don't know anything about NLP or suggestability, but I do know body language - because I have an interest in poker. Notice how Derren gets each of them to answer yes (truthful) to questions before they even get to the 4 facts. This is like a "control" response, similar to how people operate a lie detector. I think he then uses this "control" response, and factors in eye movement, top lip, breathing, tone, speed and general body language, to weed out which 1 of the 4 facts is a porky.
Tehui1974 2 years ago 25
I too haven't studied NLPin detail, but knowing that DB has studied it, I can see how his attention to facial detail comes out in his art - for example his portraits of Clint Eastwood, Orson Wells and other celebrities. He emphasizes and exagerates the unique details in people's faces.
putkettleonfilms 2 years ago
@Tehui1974 Pick up "Instant Rapport" by Michael Brooks.Its the most unique work written for the general population on NLP. Read it thoroughly, then test the material on people in your world. the results may prove interesting. good luck, friend.
scottybroker 5 months ago
@Tehui1974 i dont think thats the case since he only asks one question to the three of them at once making it hard to notice all body signs of each of them.
also the first question made them focus on the arrogance not the truth
u act differently when telling the truth and when someone said something pretty rude
mynameispaddymac 5 months ago
this is something that i feel most people could do if they took the time to actually look at people while they were being spoken to. sadly most people don't do this
youngobes 2 years ago
@youngobes it takes a lot of experience to know what to look for
USA3333 1 year ago
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MMurchie 2 years ago
haha i wish i had a lil skillz like derren, i'd hypnotise a dealer to giv me a car for 1 pound or dollar xD
madzane94 2 years ago
you cant hypnotise someone if they dont want to be hypnotised. Its not how it works. You cant just walk up to someone and mind control them. Hypnotism is suggestion. Everyone is suggestible but not always to the same thing. Thats why sometimes these things dont work
adamquin07 2 years ago
like that. but the most interesting thing are these "salesmen". They look like some figures out of "The Soranos". "He buddy, wot? Ya dont like my car? I ll break ya leg if ya dont buy it."
Well Derren had luck that the cameraman was with him AND that it was daylight...."WOT? Ya say to me that I am lying...buddy, nobody tells Eddie he is lying..."
SadimoViseVrbaTrebat 2 years ago 18
LOL!
soulmman 2 years ago
derren brown does rock, he is one of the greatest of all times in his field and the best of it, he doesn;t pretend to have any psychic powers like that Uri Geller charlatan(the one with the bending spoons from the 70s). He always says what he does are tricks...
tommytalks77 2 years ago
man this guy rocks!!! I really wanna learn something about subthreshold not sure if its how its called in english if anyone knows what i mean and where to find something about it please respond
vyhulmidyck 2 years ago
interesting information
MockEmpire 2 years ago
Oh come on, 8 cylinder? that one? why doesn't he just say it has wings?
ian09rush 2 years ago 3
many cars have wings. well, they have one wing.
lygophile 2 years ago
the last dude didnt look at derren when he thought about the answer but in fact 2 and fact 3 he looked up at derren
haribolollies 2 years ago 2
yep, this is the only one i figured out
Melpheos1er 2 years ago
LMAO!
salesman 3 at 2:20 has exactly the smiley face XD
GHAHAH
perfectdonk 2 years ago
its basic nlp
and when ppl have to remember something they look to one corner of their eye and when they are constructin something (ex. making up a number)
they look to another corner of their eye
soccer004life 2 years ago
thats true, but not at all used in this clip. What you are referencing only occurs when you are visualizing an image, not thinking words (unless you visualize the word typed. Also, that NLP has to do with recalling a memory or constructing an image youve never seen, very different from this, which is just body language
alexshort14 2 years ago
that last guy looks so sweet. like a gentle giant
theflyingmadcap 2 years ago 54
@theflyingmadcap That's how he gets ya
Jensoncorpuz 9 months ago
People should read some of his stuff or listen to his audiobooks, maybe even learn some basic NLP techniques before saying this guy is anything but a genius. Elegant, sophistocated, intelligent, man! Those who'd like to say anything less should go on his show and DISAPPEAR NOW! Derren, you da man!
bj2point0 2 years ago 76
hey, if you have time, can you explain to me exactly what this man is doing? is it some kind of science, art, or what? i really wanna know, its amazing!
iwantram3n 2 years ago
@bj2point0 That's right!!! Like those lazyasses know something else than to post sceptic comments :)
LightningAndRain 1 year ago
@bj2point0 I don't want to listen to that command... -_-... :D
termanogue 1 year ago
@bj2point0 i have trick of the mind but do you know where i could find the audio books at? (ugg this was posted 10mo ago lol)
1pokerknight 1 year ago
@bj2point0 well could u help me learn nlp?
superduperpooper7 1 year ago
@superduperpooper7 Look up NLP, or Neuro linguistic programming. You can also look up "eye catalepsy" to learn more about body language, and how to read people. I have been practicing NLP as a sales technique for years. It's also helpful as a training tool at customer service seminars for sales employees.
njdtm1971 1 year ago
@superduperpooper7 nlpteacher,com its a very new site with some help full stuff, its will be offering free info on nlp from basic to advanced, when its finished.
papercut272 1 year ago
its not fake its common sense...
skaterboy32395 2 years ago
Im not saying all of his videos are real but is lie detection really that far fetched? Police hire professional lie detectors and there are plenty of times where you yourself caught on to someone's lie. This man has just practiced doing that. And how about we refrain from using offensive words like retard. Thank you very much.
LogicOverFaith 2 years ago
yes lie detection among professionals is very well figured out, but the way derren sets up the situation makes it a lot easyer to spot a lie.
in this video he has 3 truths to compare with one lie. He can compare the faceial gestures with the other statements, and he can use what is common knowledge about liing. Professionals have to figure out small liing parts within huge stories. Even derren has years of practise and even he'd have to study a person for hours to find a usual lie.
BalthazzarCH 2 years ago
Derren Brown is truly impressive.
I have been watching many of his videos trying to pick up on his techniques and with this video i tried applying them myself. I too was able to predict these "lies". For the 1st he said pretty much about a specific detail(engine size) which doesnt fit. For the 2nd he jumped the gun. for the third if you watch carefully the only fact he doesnt look at derren in the eye for is the first. And it was about the engine because the 2 previous guys did too.
LogicOverFaith 2 years ago
A lie is a creative process, takes more time to think. I think he just notices how much times it takes to think
Azureim 2 years ago
no man, he goes WAY beyond that... not just looking at howmuch time he takes to say ok... lol
buakaew88 2 years ago
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retard, it's all fake, its sooo obvious.
rickardny 2 years ago
Why the hostility? It's not necessary, especially given that it is in fact real, interrogators, detectives, and other types of criminal investigators and even company consultants use these techniques all the time. If you knew or understood ANYTHING about people's psychological patterns at all, you'd be able to tell VERY easily that this is real.
Don't be so quick to be so hostile against something you don't understand and obviously know absolutely nothing about.
donphonica 2 years ago 2
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It's indeed...fake.
rickardny 2 years ago
POKER
BigChiefWiggles 2 years ago
Someone probably already explained it, but it's not the eye contact that gave the third guy away - he looks with his eyes for prompting to proceed the next fact. On the first one he didn't give positive signs (he didn't nod), whereas 2 and 3 he did - big give away. Derren knows he was thinking about the engine and numbers because that was the last thing the 2nd guy who was tested ended with and hence the first thing in the next guy's mind.
EpicBrav 2 years ago 5
true, the 3rd guy avoided eye contact on the first question which indicates guilt.
Derren should play the poker champions!!!
RobertWeekes 2 years ago
He used to gamble alot, but he doesn't anymore because it's not fair, and he got banned from some casinos.
chrislarson15 2 years ago
I think with the last guy, Derren knew the lie by the look of the man's eyes. On the first response, the man kept looking forward. With the second and third response, the man looked at Derren after he was asked to say the answer in his mind. So the fact that the man didn't look at Derren on the first response gave it away as a lie. I'm just guessing ;]
Paomnnehal 2 years ago
i thought that too
but how could he have known it was about the engine?
Obie013 2 years ago
Because the engine was the last thing the second guy talked about, meaning it would be planted in the last guy's mind.
theconmanshow 2 years ago
i some how knew the last guy was gonna lie at one because the other 2 guys lied at 2 and 3, and darren was suspicious about 4 on the first guy, so the last guy didn't want to choose the same number. That's why darren told him to speak it in his head.... only a random theory :D
LaotianPride14 2 years ago
i just thought of that before i read the comments, i think its a natural thing, you hear 3-2 you instinctivly pick 1 to correspond with the counting down to zero.
KMFDM420 2 years ago
everyone knows hyundais dont come in v-8's!! lol
lakerfreak03 2 years ago
>>>True enough. But the Hyundai dealership is across the street.
Derren is doing this experiment at some GM dealership.
joncoppola28 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAH.
YoungNasteyman 2 years ago
Derren always says people are predictable. I guess he knew it was going to be the first lie with the last guy because with the first guy it was the 3rd, then with the second guy the second lie... I don't know, I think there's a pattern and Derren knows it.
RhapsodyOfHammerfall 2 years ago
Actually, the solution is quite simple. He asks them to list 4 facts and lie about 1, not to make it harder for him, but to make it easier for him. He looks for subtle changes in the way the person answers or behaves when he answers, which indicate a lie. When the person is telling the truth on 3/4 of them, he gets an idea of how the person acts when telling the truth. Then he looks for the 1 time the person's behavior was different.
No patterns, just simple observation.
makaveli187420 2 years ago
"simple"? LMAO!!
virus007911 2 years ago
Well I didn't think it was hard... its one of the most basic ways of determining deception. If you read up anywhere online on how to spot a lie, most of them will tell you to watch for base-line pattern changes (maybe not those exact words).
makaveli187420 2 years ago 2
I think we all try to do that in our dealings with people, at some time or other. But to be spot on each and every time. as brown is, would be impossible for a normal person, who was only using the principles you describe. I suspect he has something else up his sleeve.
virus007911 2 years ago
It only seems impossible because most people don't really tune themselves in and pay as much attention as he does. Short of having this clip "set up", there is no other feasible method that could be used to determine who they were lying on.
Plus, it makes perfect sense when you consider what he tells them to do (3 truths and a lie).
On the first or 2nd guy, he even tells him about the subtle differences the guy made when he mentioned the lie.
makaveli187420 2 years ago
I may dissect how this deceit detection was accomplished (EXTREMELY well btw) and post scrutiny vid maybe.
johntkucz 2 years ago
I know how he did these!! This is so wickedly brilliant!! He knew it was the 2nd comment on the 2nd guy because he changed his EACs, for the 1st and 3rd comment he drew the comment from the right (our right, derren's right) and then drew the 2nd comment from the left. The lie is the aberration. BRILLIANT!!!!!! I'm improving in deceit detection which is very good!
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RhapsodyOfHammerfall 2 years ago
Nice job--I'm jealous. I've got to learn more about this stuff.
ivanmikhailov 2 years ago
lol. Thanks for the acknowledgement and reverification! I bet someone could have figured this out without even knowing about EACs and just careful, meticulous, sherlock holmes-like scrutiny of their visages and reactions.
johntkucz 2 years ago
I agree in my interpersonal communications class Chap. 6 is Non-Verbal Communication, there are many tips and such about how to tell people are lying and all sorts of unconsicous movements, altough that last one i doubt someone could get.
DEATHMAJOR 2 years ago
btw. EAC = Eye Accessing Cue. But i'm not into nlp anymore.
johntkucz 2 years ago
the last guy i knew it was the first one cause he didnt look derren straight in the eyes but with the other thoughts he did.
lapreciouz 2 years ago
WOW ur a genius!
wankstaz1 2 years ago
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stewartcopeland16 2 years ago
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get a life you facking moron
jiflix 2 years ago
fuck you you asshole. mother fucker nobody told you to read it so fuck off.
stewartcopeland16 2 years ago
how about chainlink your balls from a tree and then beat you like a pinata until all the adipose tissue oozes from the turnip you call a brain.
jiflix 2 years ago
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derren brown cant hypnotize or trick me
Wely155 2 years ago
not too hard to see through these non-creative meatheads. but derren brown is awesome anyway though!
sweetsntreats 2 years ago
Tricky Bastards!!
manano06 2 years ago 4
wow! i got them all right, right alway too!
marthasoria66 2 years ago
hahah awesome. do some and upload it.
crablord 2 years ago 2