How Not To Use a Rebreather

[andygray]

I think it is negligent and foolhardy of the dive shop to let this obviously overweight and unfit diver, dive in the first place. They should lose their shop license.

[CDN7311]

he's the guy I put MY life at risk to save because he's a disgusting fat body that has no right diving and puts his dive master and the other guests at risk.

[abdalabinladen]

@CDN7311 Why did they let him dive in the first place? I see a lot of bouyancy control issues with him. Was he comfortable enough with scuba to safely make atransition to rebreathers?

[hibob841]

Dear Lord! I tagged along on my wife's cert dives last month and all 6 students there were far, far calmer and more efficient in the water than this guy...their first time in the ocean!

He needs to calm his ass down or quit diving.

[DeepStopDiver]

if it was 100% hed have a good chance of toxing at 6 and would no doubt tox at 8 , and "pumeldaridive" it is probably a semi closed circuit breather which discharches gas from the loop rather then a fully closed unit

[pumeldaridive]

i thought rebrethers did not make bubbles?

[diverkev]

@pumeldaridive I think it was a semi closed rebreather.

[MrJimbo008]

I have an idea. He was using his arms instead of kicking. That expends more energy. That could have gone through his O2

[apt95]

@MrJimbo008

depending on the scrubber, rebreathers are good for 10 hours underwater.

even by using his arms, if the rebreather was properly assembled, cleaned, and setup (they have precise settings on them) he should have been fine.

[MrAquafan]

Thought you had to be superfit to scuba dive maybe thats not the case

[CarMoves]

What's with the hands?

This has nothing to do with what shape the guy is in.

He's a bad diver, and whom ever took his money and allowed him to dive the rebreather needs to get some ethics.

This guy barely has open-water skills.

[TheWortytoad]

fat cunt

[eightwillwontcannot]

haha it's a manateeeeeeeeeeee!

[ScubaVideoServices]

@eightwillwontcannot not fair on the manatees, at least they look cute and cuddly underwater!

[thegirl44]

@eightwillwontcannot

That's not a manatee, honey, THAT is the elusive Fatfuckasauraus. Long thought extinct videos like this are starting to surface online.

[meltdownman1]

@thegirl44 LMFAO on that comment...I will have to remember to use that one the next time I go diving!

Made my day,

The Meltdownman

[thegirl44]

@meltdownman1

It's actually my dog's name, poor abused soul that she is, but she likes that it makes strangers laugh in the park when I call her :).

[jazzdam]

And when an unexperienced diver using a rebreather dies his mother cries. Technology can't save anyone from unadeguate training and poor skills. Underwater every problem you may have will magnify and you are not diving only at your own risk but you are potentially putting in danger your buddy. Be SAFE!

[MrAquafan]

See what happens if you fed the local sea life, Plus i thought all you divers were slim and fit, Looks like i was wrong there

[porticoman]

Aside from doing breast stroke and the fact he's a bit of a chubster (not really diving related is it?) he's doing just fine. Must have really needed to get to the toilet since he seems to be motoring.

[runeeln]

swim with your legs. not your arms

[mfldurham]

The guy is using a Drager Dolphin SCr therefore bubbles are normal. Also the bottle he is using looks like a 4 or 5 litre which would run out after 45 minutes to an hour depending on the jets he was using. Sure is is fat and diving really badly but in terms of the rebreather bits, he looks ok. Do your homework pals before you go dissing him.

[ronnin79]

Terrible... Who let him dive, this is insane...

[DrTranofEvil]

It looks like he was overweighted (umm... beyond just his own weight). Guy shouldn't have to try to breast-stroke his way around. Guy REALLY should have started with an open water cert to try to learn some freakin' neutral bouyancy...

[fishman0069]

he needs to go back to dive school. to learn how to use his fins first.....dip shit

[blakeblake321]

Thats abit strange why are there bubbles coming up, mabye breathing through his nose

[porticoman]

The unit he's wearing is Semi Closed, not Fully Closed circuit. His cylinder (typically rich Nitrox) is constantly adding gas into the loop, some of which needs to be vented off to keep a constant loop volume, hence the bubbles. With Closed Circuit only the O2 is replenished, there's no significant loop volume change.

[WolfieTed]

@blakeblake321 If he was exhaling through his nose, it would explain why he used the oxygen so quick...I breath through my nose with open sometimes, helps my air consumption, but with a CCR you have to use the same breath so my instructor says...

[drazil91]

I don't get what happened?

[thedcase]

What is a Rebreather?

[thagonzp]

it scrubs the air you exhale with a chemical that produces more oxygen so you dont need a tank and theres no bubbles

(my dad ,Navy SEAL, uses a drager rebreather)

[thedcase]

Ah ok, thanks for the reply.

[hrnbearva]

An absorbent removes the co2 from the breathing loop. New o2 is added to the breathing loop from a tank.

For a thread dissing this guy, the knowledge displayed in the comments isn't stellar.

[musicalmiller]

why would you use a rebreather in such shallow water? btw is that an inspiration?

[hrnbearva]

A: Because you have to pass through the shallow water to get to the deep water, and some rebreathers aren't safe to use in deep water due to high concentration of o2 in the mixture.

B: No, it's a SCC Drager unit. I'm not a rebreather diver but I believe they sold orifices meant for up to 50% o2 for those units.

[CarMoves]

2 words = Inflate BCD

[ooblick]

I doubt that the guy who rescued him or the tech instructor were lying. I heard him say he used to use aluminum 80s for regular diving but emptied them in 20 minutes. So believe what you like.

[ooblick]

And if you'd read the comments, you might know that he had to be rescued by a divemaster after flooding the rebreather by putting it together wrong, refused to listen to the tech instructor at the resort which would have prevented that, and breathed down the entire rebreather in under 1 hour. AND that they used rebreathers because they sucked down aluminum 80s in 20 minutes. Not weight, but technique is the issue.

[az42dive]

I dove with this guy in Divi last year and got to know him. His poor propulsion techniques shown in this video is obvious, but nothing else you or the other folks said about him is actually true. He is really skilled with the Dolphin, never flooded, isn't making too many bubbles, never sucked it down quickly (that's nearly impossible, even if you're fat), and he's using an Aluminum 63 in the video simply because its the smallest nitrox tank at Cap'n Don's.

I saw him rescue another diver.

[hrnbearva]

How do you "breathed down the entire rebreather in under 1 hour" ? You mean running out of o2? Because there is no information on the co2 scrubber life.

[porticoman]

If you're rubbish at rebreather diving you can cane through gas very fast, for example by breathing out through your nose. You'll need to keep up the loop volume, which means taking supply gas, effectively you can end up diving open circuit. This is how to shorten a rebreather dive and drain the tank.

[az42dive]

This video and its comments are more mean spirited than accurate. Yes this guy is fat, but there is no evidence here of anything close to being dangerous. We are all taught not to use our hands and kick better than this video demonstrates, but purpose for that is to save air. This guy has an infinite amount of air compared to anyone on the boat at Captain Don's (where this was taken) unless they were also using a rebreather.

Rather than making fun of him because he is fat, congratulate him.

[Jerkface55]

hey your weightless under water! why would any one have to lose weight

[apt95]

@Jerkface55

divers need to use weights and floats to make it so they neither sink nor float.

go to a pool and just relax for a moment-you most likely float on the water. all people have some positive buoyancy, meaning that they will rise to the surface if they are not weighted down.

[qsucvatz]

This Wozniak?

[Chuckjagerdiver]

Rebreathers in what. 20 fsw? That's the dumb part. Not being a fatass.

[hrnbearva]

If the ppo2 is high, and you go below 20fsw, then you die. You need to go back to school.

[Chuckjagerdiver]

@hrnbearva <-- Is this guy an idiot?

[hrnbearva]

@Chuckjagerdiver If you have an issue with something I said, call me out on it (then I will school you on it.) And yes, referencing your comment made on my profile, SCR's do go back over 70 years. Rebreathers predate OC scuba, and really the big recent technology is galvanic cells being sampled by microcontrollers.

[andygaras]

i guess theres no room for fat divers

[RicoDiver]

best "bicycle" fin kick I've ever seen.

[kermit30au]

Hay give the guy a break! Yeah he is a large fella and so what. That is realy shame on you lot for being this way. Yeah he cant dive for shit and maybe he had other technical issues other than his gut. Also for people who know nothing about buoyancy that fat dudes are more buoyant so weight would be little issue at that shallow depth regarding his body. But proberly was over weighted. Anyway he gave it a go and good on him. I bet most of you people are just learners! jelous?

[WolfieTed]

@kermit30au Learning is one thing, but some guys are made for diving, some aren't. he looks uncomfortable underwater and he's on a rebreather???? The guy is probably a hazard to himself and others. We had 3 Korean guys go down locally to 120 meters on rebreathers. One lost it and inflated his BCD and died at the surface, his friend is dead below the neck because he decided deco was a myth and the last guy had to be fed tanks for 16 hours to deco. People like that shouldn't be certified...

[MPG350]

Instructor? geez watching that guy I would have thought that was his first dive

[BornAndBredBritish94]

i thought rebreathers shouldnt have any bubbles

[havntthslightst]

Was wondering the same thing.

[laxdude1119]

Semi-Closed Rebreathers exhale spent air in addition to recycling it.

[th3boy75]

actually rebreathers do give off bubble, but the bubbles are so small they are no noticable on the surface.

[cam2724]

That is the dumbest thing I have heard in a while. ar eyou serious or just being sarcastic?

[th3boy75]

im serious, thats what they said on the navy seals training specials on the Military channel and all the declassified military manuals i have read.

[merpette]

Well of course they do, they're venting CO2. That's how it's possible to keep breathing the air - they filter the CO2 out and keep the breathable gas in.

[ButtsontheBarbie]

@th3boy75 - what a load of old cobblers you talk, "bubbles so small they aint noticable on the surface" - a fuckwit statement. Bubbles expand - get bigger - on ascent so they aint no way any bubble can't be seen at surface.

[sailorboy331]

lol i know. that guy is a fucking idiot

[paronfisk]

the video should be named: how not to dive...

[Divehardline]

Haha! How embarressing!

[morten325]

how deep can you go with a Rebreather?

[zaboka99]

Could it have been a buoyancy issue? i.e.maybe he was overweighted and was compensating by swimming vigorously?

[paronfisk]

Seriously, he cant dive. There is no way he can carry that much weights that the BCD cant lift him...

[CarMoves]

What's with the arms? Good buoyancy control!

[toto0069]

he is an instructor actually, thats the scary part.

the only rebreather diver i know that uses an aluminium 80 for his breathing gas.

[tuttt99]

oxygen or diluent?

[Heavydde]

what happend...i dont get it

[jm338]

if he is using his hands im geussing he is a beginer, why does he have to complicate things by using a rebreather

[tuttt99]

That dude in the rebreather is scary....

[Mutrino]

Oh my god, you GOT to be kidding......

[lowridersvt]

why the hands man people need to learn how to dive

[fuzmiester]

I recognise that as Captain Dons Bonaire, nice place!

[tuttt99]

I stayed next door at Buddy Dive in 2005

[overmool]

that fat whale was damn funny.

[patdisabled]

Not fair to Homer Simpson to use his voice

he's not that fat or stupid

[freddyguitarrist]

He people, Dragger Dolphin is a SCCR Nitrox Rebreather, is not a CCR or a commando 100% O2 unit for shallow missions.

[Madskindivin]

i hate to tell you guys this but that rebreather is a 100% o2 rig. no nitrogen.

[ooblick]

If it was a 100% o2 rig he would have died at 60 feet, which was where the first part of the video was shot. It was not 100%

[90dakota90]

@ooblick LOL! 100% O2 can you say funky chicken??

[ButtsontheBarbie]

@Madskindivin you know jack-shit about diving or rebreathers so you may as well admit it right now. Go on, say it, say, "actually I know sweet fuck-all about diving and I'm just shooting off my mouth".

[CarMoves]

@Madskindivin -- learn a little bit more about diving, and you'll see just how stupid your post was.

[CarMoves]

@Madskindivin -- it's good you removed your comment -- you don't have a clue.

That is NOT a 100% o2 rebreather as used by armed forces and scientists -- those can only be used to 20ft.

Get to that book learn'n

[Madskindivin]

@CarMoves you are one of those guys.. you get your PADI open water cert, you do a few dives, and now you get on youtube and act like a complete douche bag. Don't know why you are such a hater, but relax. There are plenty of you on youtube already. so quit harassing me, I'm tied of your dumbass comments popping up in my email.

[CarMoves]

@Madskindivin -- sounds like your're describing yourself, fucktard.

Unless you know what you're talking about, shut the fuck up -- are YOU the guy in the video?

Stay lame, and stay shallow.

[WolfieTed]

@CarMoves I'm not arguing at all with you. It is true that pure oxygen is toxic below about 6 meters, but my friend who is a tec diver had a student who used a pony bottle with pure O2 for deco. His regs were both black and the instructor told him 100 times to get a yellow reg or something so he could distinguish between them, he refused. They got to about 80ft and he gave the out of air signal, needless to say my friend thought it was all over...the diver had used the pony bottle, but survived?

[CarMoves]

@WolfieTed -- I highly doubt the story, as you describe it, is true -- even a 50% mix @ 1.6 has an MOD of ~72ft.

But if it were true, it'd be like a skydiver's chute not opening, and them surviving the plunge -- there's not a lot to be learned or follow from it.

[WolfieTed]

@CarMoves It wasn't open to debate, it was fact. The guy who told me is no lier, he does not make up stories. The truth is if you believe what you are taugh by PADI and ORCA you are playing it safe youre entire life. Some rules can't be broken, others are just in place to play it safe for the general population. If I told you about a 120 meter dive on air with 4 tanks (1 nitrox and one pure oxygen to speed up deco) I'm sure your book would tell you oxygen toxicity would kill me at 90 right?

[CarMoves]

I guess if your friend said it, it must be fact.

Many deep dives were done on air, they just aren't done now -- do you still drive a car without an airbag?

"Oxygen Poisoning" doesn't mean death, it can be as simple as numb lips.

Your logic is flawed "If these people did it, the rules are wrong". Rules "lower risk" -- ignoring them doesn't "guarantee" a bad outcome, just increases the risk that it will occur.

BTW, my friend told me, guys with bikes in their profile photo are gay.

[WolfieTed]

@CarMoves Ahhh but my friend is the most respected PADI dive instructor out there. I couldn't care less what you think anyway mate. PS people with bikes on their profile can be gay, but homophobic attacks normally indicate that you have deep seated homosexual tendancies and the shame you feel for yuour own feelings makes you attack others in the same fashion. I'll say "yes I am gay" just to kill your insult dead, now go and make some bubbles at your safe 18 meters open water boy.

[CarMoves]

@WolfieTed -- gay = lame, if you said you "smoked a fag", I wouldn't think you shot a gay.

Ironically, most of my gay friends are from London -- you may know them, if you ride the DLR.

Learn to dive from your buddy, and buy a real bike -- BMW

Say hey to yer boytoy

[WolfieTed]

@CarMoves Hahaha gay attaks are just so childish, and attacking my bike because your too pussy to ride a real one is beyond even your shoe sized IQ. I don't live in the UK so the DLR is out the window. You loss of control shows everyone reading that you are nothing more than a child. Maybe you have a learning disorder, but I don't intend to poke fun at you. I only pity you. You can have the last word and show everyonr what a mature adult you are becoming. Good luck making something of your life.

[CarMoves]

@WolfieTed -- You have a profound grasp of spelling and comprehending sarcasm (and judgement buying the banana bike)

Gay is okay -- don't fight it.

Wannabe diver.

Wannabe rider.

[apt95]

@CarMoves

except for the Russian IDA-71, which works on pure O2 down to 40 feet.

guess rebreathers DO work on pure O2 down below 20 feet.

[CarMoves]

@apt95 -- the apparatus used is irrelevant to MOD using O2.

Depths deeper that 20ft, used to be the norm, but not anymore. And some countries still have 40ft in their tables, but only for 10min-15min.

2.2 -- go for it.

[althursby]

who taught this guy? cmon own up? now hang your head in shame, maybe read up your manuals again

[FallenForever]

thats just terrible

I teach over at sports challet for diving lesson.

if someone ever did that to me I would make sure they never get there license again

Cheers mates !

[FallenForever]

I didnt know he wasnt with the other group

my bad !

kill him then >.<

[ooblick]

One of the other problems with this guy was that the chief technical diver at the resort tried to help him and he told the instructor to get lost, he knew what he was doing....

[FallenForever]

if you guys are dive masters like you claim to be

you would know that by going in the water you are claiming the people as your dependants, meaning you are in charge of them.

[ooblick]

Divemasters and instructors are responsible for THEIR students only. They are not responsible for everyone who happens to be diving in the same place at the same time.

[beejwrobel]

fuck thats a little bit funny.

hey- i will say that yes the guy is fucking huge and he needs to do something but you cant say things like he needs to stay out of the water, thats discrimination.

I would however, after seeing this video not allow him to dive with me ever (im a DM in training) and i garauntee he would be sitting out the next dive.

[bramfin]

I hope your attitude improves before you complete your DM. Role model?

Watching this video probably made us all laugh but what this guy needs is someone to positively pick him up on his finning and arm technique not make him sit out the next dive.

[beejwrobel]

he needs to get back in the pool and learn things like that. yes as a DM i would encourage improvement in those areas and of course speak positively, howeever, from a safety standpoint, someone with such bad technique as that is likely to not be proficient at other things such as watching there depth. If he was to be making another dive that day i would suggest he sat out as it might pose a safety risk to other customers.

[chuck6]

i am a Dive Master and I wouldn't let him make a second dive! i typically have 5 divers under my charge and if I have to spend all of my time with one individual who can't keep up the others suffer

[spetz1337]

yeh, he is huge and fat and nitrogen do not mix well. I wish they set a diving ban for enormous fat people. Non fit people panic alot quicker than fit people. If we (the diving community) wish to make diving safer this is the first step. Fat people can train and get fit like everybody else.

[spetz1337]

The downside (and the reason this is not going to work) are the fat, mostly american and british, divers already holding a diving certification. If not PADI can make money on them, PADI have a big problem.

I am blessed to be a CMAS instructor and I can set some real requirement for the students.

on the other hand PADI instruktors can get at nice job out of it. I do it on my spare time ;)

[Tokritho]

thats pure and utte bullshit. "Non fit people panic alot quicker than fit people."... is it meant as a joke? yes, the fatties don't get rid of their nitrogen as fast as a person in good health with lots of stamina, but fat people panicking faster then skinny ones?! thats simply rudiculus.

[stevensj123]

agreed!

[stevensj123]

agreed

[kuyhd]

lol.

[Aintitlovely]

Asshole!

[Dan420forU]

get some control of bouyancy, arms (lol) and get below the surge.

[mrescuba]

why is it every other diver is his size!!

[paulric75]

what the.... that fat f**k doesn't belong underwater!

[javadooley]

Is that a halcyon rebeather, nice and small

[Smudgegs]

Nope, not a Halcyon, It's a Drager Dolphin Semi Closed rebreather.

[samscuba]

he did that on purpose.... right???

[paerabol]

hahaha wow...this guy is an instructor???

[asusmobo123]

Given that rebreathers are such a small minority of diving and that not too many folks are divers anyway, this video needs more clarification.

[AceLockCo]

How did that guy get certified? Who swims with their arms?

[r0ck3tsm0k3]

He probably shot himself after this video was made, good work.

[uxbdiver]

Outrageous, rebreathers are not for fat halfwits.

[toto0069]

he is an instructor actually, thats the scary part.

the only rebreather diver that uses an aluminium 80

[Wethorse]

This video is also famous on a popular divingforum in Holland!

Grtz,

Wethorse

[scubadooby]

is the guy dead yet?

[kaylajanedangermouse]

his form was aweful... im an instructor and i wouldnt have let him pass OW

[cr4sh0v3rr1d3]

Dumb...

[actor212]

What a boring video. Such long shots, no action, and generally bad shooting. Really. Amazing that you spend so much time snarking on his technique instead of working on your own...and that you don't even know that's a semi-closed rebreather is frightening, in light of your commentary.

[ooblick]

We are well aware it is semi-closed, however, the amount of bubbles provided far exceeded the norm for a semi closed system. An addendum to this video was that one of these divers actually flooded his rebreather at the HIlma Hooker and subsequently couldn't reach his bail out bottle and was saved by a divemaster.

[NAUIDiver]

When I first started diving I tried using my hands a lot too. With all that gear on your arms become useless as a means of propulsion. However, it is a good technique for attracting barracudas and sharks.

[psaiyogi]

good catch!

www.psai.de

[jaystephenson]

They should stop using their hands and kick more.

[p2mpk1n]

Do you think?

[tmarquis01]

You got the exact point, the fact the guy is big is not a problem, but the way he dive is not realy good, and if he needs his hands that much it is because he cannoy catch uo . He mjust use a lot of energy wow. I would be cream by any of my instructor if i would act like thta. My question is more ..Who the hell certified him!

[boogold]

These guys look like they have no idea what they're doing. Why would they be using stuff like rebreathers? And why does that one leak air so much?

[paulwlee]

That is a semi-closed-circuit rebreather, which emits bubbles now and then, only less than open circuit.

[TheKestra]

Do people actually swim that way when diving?