Superb! Molten salts are so useful. I wish the nuclear industry had learned earlier to use them. Now it seems solar energy smartgrids are the future of energy.
[0:37] "Gemasolar has 15 hours of solar thermal salt storage"
That's a bit misleading. The 500 degree C molten salt tanks are well insulated and lose only 1% of their heat each day, so the stored heat energy can last several weeks.
15 hours is how long the plant can run at full rated output (20MW) from storage, ie til it "drains the battery."
The mirrors can't use trackers. They have to face a particular direction to concentrate the heat. But that also means they're not moving with the sun for maximum heat concentration.
In the end, the efficiency is reduced. I guess that is the opportunity cost.
@21wf: the heliostats have to have a precision of measured in the hundredths of a degree so they have to have two-axis tracking. Each heliostat has two motors (if you pause the video you may notice them) each with a built-in pogrammable logic controller (PLC) that recalculates and readjusts the heliostat’s position every 4 seconds.
@tonyseba I've seen similar heliostats used on top of a skyscraper to focus sun down through the interior. They're amazing. I walked around the building for a couple of hours, then came back to see them in a new position - tracking the sun all the way.
@fsteel2k: I'm assuming you're referring to the 'halos' around the receiver on top of the tower. That's actually the heliostats being tested. You may have noticed that not all the heliostats are focusing on the tower (some are horizontal and some vertical.) Heliostats are constantly being tested and may go in and out of focus with the tower. Those 'halos' are specific coordinates that heliostats point to as part of the tests.
@tonyseba Yes well I was not wondering about their source, but rather what physical effect that gave rise to their phenomenon. I think Rayleigh scattering is a good bet.
@fsteel2k It's simple this effect is produced because in this moment the receptor system are in preheating not in heating and then the heliostats can't take focus on the target for burn risk.
@TheKfauw: they have technology that continuously decides what is stored in the battery and what goes to the grid. If there is cloud cover or during the evening they draw from the battery. Either way the molten salt goes through a heat exchanger to generate steam that runs a turbine that produces electricity. This process (from steam to electricity) is the same day or night.
Amazing // Thank you for sharing this // Looking forward to this bright future
If you are homo sapiens technologicus you gotta love this and share it forward!
Yesterday I heard this c**p again:
"You should know that the solar energy works only during the day... how are we supposed to power our stuff at night? You see classic power plants are our only option at the moment..."
Well, dude, this is not true anymore. Let the world know
Awesome!!! Bring it on and let's rid ourselves of the polluting use of fossil fuels for our energy needs. :-)
Muso57 2 weeks ago
'I can take about an hour on the tower of power'
mrplease66 3 months ago
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RheaLangxMayAyalaq 4 months ago
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this is sickly amazing
WillBirdxSamBrownb 4 months ago
I don't see any cleaning mechanisms on the actual mirrors, how do they keep them clean?
Yo no veo ningún mecanismo de limpieza en los espejos. ¿Cómo los mantienen limpios?
lygonDOTnet 4 months ago
Now We need the Euclid's C-Finder.
Nathankzkg 4 months ago
Superb! Molten salts are so useful. I wish the nuclear industry had learned earlier to use them. Now it seems solar energy smartgrids are the future of energy.
utubesqueeze 4 months ago
WE MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS!!!!!
Abnihilius 5 months ago 7
[0:37] "Gemasolar has 15 hours of solar thermal salt storage"
That's a bit misleading. The 500 degree C molten salt tanks are well insulated and lose only 1% of their heat each day, so the stored heat energy can last several weeks.
15 hours is how long the plant can run at full rated output (20MW) from storage, ie til it "drains the battery."
jondoig 6 months ago
The mirrors can't use trackers. They have to face a particular direction to concentrate the heat. But that also means they're not moving with the sun for maximum heat concentration.
In the end, the efficiency is reduced. I guess that is the opportunity cost.
21wf 8 months ago
@21wf: the heliostats have to have a precision of measured in the hundredths of a degree so they have to have two-axis tracking. Each heliostat has two motors (if you pause the video you may notice them) each with a built-in pogrammable logic controller (PLC) that recalculates and readjusts the heliostat’s position every 4 seconds.
tonyseba 8 months ago 6
@tonyseba I've seen similar heliostats used on top of a skyscraper to focus sun down through the interior. They're amazing. I walked around the building for a couple of hours, then came back to see them in a new position - tracking the sun all the way.
3salamanders 8 months ago
Those optical light effects seem to be stationary and not an effect of the camera lens. Are they some sort of Rayleigh scattering perhaps?
fsteel2k 8 months ago
@fsteel2k: I'm assuming you're referring to the 'halos' around the receiver on top of the tower. That's actually the heliostats being tested. You may have noticed that not all the heliostats are focusing on the tower (some are horizontal and some vertical.) Heliostats are constantly being tested and may go in and out of focus with the tower. Those 'halos' are specific coordinates that heliostats point to as part of the tests.
tonyseba 8 months ago 2
@tonyseba Yes well I was not wondering about their source, but rather what physical effect that gave rise to their phenomenon. I think Rayleigh scattering is a good bet.
fsteel2k 8 months ago
@tonyseba thanks for answering by the way, and excellent job beeing on site so early to report! Many thanks for sharing this with the world!
fsteel2k 8 months ago
@fsteel2k It's simple this effect is produced because in this moment the receptor system are in preheating not in heating and then the heliostats can't take focus on the target for burn risk.
Zendoru 7 months ago
What's the effect of the plant while running on the battery vs broad daylight?
TheKfauw 8 months ago
@TheKfauw: they have technology that continuously decides what is stored in the battery and what goes to the grid. If there is cloud cover or during the evening they draw from the battery. Either way the molten salt goes through a heat exchanger to generate steam that runs a turbine that produces electricity. This process (from steam to electricity) is the same day or night.
tonyseba 8 months ago
this is the future
Hackzoid 8 months ago
Great job to everyone involved in the making of Gemasolar.
Chronox5 8 months ago
this is very promising!
pillowcase1 8 months ago
I'll bet Arizona could sure generate some power with this kind of tech.
bnther36 8 months ago
Simple and effective, I bet the oil - coal - nuclear industries will do all they can afford to lobby against it....
frpd5 8 months ago 4
Amazing // Thank you for sharing this // Looking forward to this bright future
If you are homo sapiens technologicus you gotta love this and share it forward!
Yesterday I heard this c**p again:
"You should know that the solar energy works only during the day... how are we supposed to power our stuff at night? You see classic power plants are our only option at the moment..."
Well, dude, this is not true anymore. Let the world know
jeromefloerke 8 months ago 12
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