Female genital mutilation tradition or torture?

[ilovewretch32]

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[ilovewretch32]

i dont give a shit if its tradition or not its completely barbaric there is no need to cut a body part off anyone because i beilieve everything on the human body has been put there for a reason this is how god created us and people should stop trying to play god and take nature into there own hands if a girl wasnt mean to have a clitoris cut off and their flaps sewn togeather then all women would be born like that.

[TheSteelNightmare]

Sick, Backwards, retarded, barbaric, inferior.... pointless. nuff said

[Chadolution]

Whether forced upon boys or girls, circumcision is torture and mutilation of children.  It MUST come to a quick end. More and more parents are making the right choice to keep their sons and daughters intact, as they learn the truth. In 2009, most American parents, 68.5%, kept their sons intact.

[audreyeatworld]

Guys shut up! Why are 50 of you trying to make someone look stupid by trying to prove what they believe is wrong? I know female genial mutilation is plain barbaric and needs to be stopped, but what is arguing on Youtube gonna do anything about it?

[hoodmilk]

I'm sick of people acting as if a child doesn't have certain rights simply because they can't speak for themselves. Not being permentantly disfigured should be a right we all have.

Unfortunatly the human race is too stupid to realized having sex, and not using birth control doesn't make you an expert on anatomy, and does not give you the right to amputate perfectly healthy parts of a child's body.

[hoodmilk]

"Circumcision is but one of the many things that occur, why focus on it when you can focus on all the other crimes? "

I hear this point made all the time to defend a variety of stupid traditions.

Who says I can't have more than one opinion, or support/condemn multiple actions. WOULD YOU RECOMMEND I SIMPLY STOP CARING BECAUSE THERE IS MORE THAN ONE PROBLEM IN THE WORLD?? THIS IS AN ATROCITY AND I WON'T IGNORE IT JUST BECAUSE OTHER ATROCITY EXISTS.

[thecursedland]

@hoodmilk I was merely saying that there are other atrocities that occur besides child circumcision. Did you know that there are children taken from parents and used as sexual toys, or used in ritual sacrifice as the ones who perpetrate this madness have incestuous orgies after slaying the young child?

[hoodmilk]

@thecursedland I know and I'm against those too. People say to pick your battles, and this is one of them.

Obviously someone who would sacrifice their child isn't worried about their wellbeing and i'm not going to change their mind.

My goal is to inform people, and maybe change their minds about what is and what isn't apropriate behavior twards a person.

[hoodmilk]

I've had sex with circumscribed, and uncircumcised men. Uncut men are always more sensitive, patent, and their penis is much smother to the touch.

Where as cut men usually have a noticeable scar around their penis, and from my experience prefer rough sex for the obvious reason they have less feeling.

[hoodmilk]

It's funny you say "Unless you have been circumsised and know how it feels don't talk such crap."

Then you say "I'm GLAD I was circumsised as a child"

You Have NO idea what sex is like with a foreskin. So you're a hypocrite if you don't shut up.

You tell me not to speak for men, but you speak for women by saying we prefer cut men.

We prefer what is normal. Most of the world doesn't do it, and their women would disagree.

I live in the US where most men are circumscribed, but It's BARBARIC!

[ojideagu]

And you have no idea what sex feels like WITHOUT a foreskin you idiot!

Most male pornstars in America are circumcised by the way. If all their "nerve endings" were removed I doubt they would be able to perform, you fool.

[ojideagu]

You're a woman, so don't even DARE try and tell men what their penis is "supposed" to feel like!

You haven't got a fucking clue circumcised or not, you are a WOMAN so stick to shit you have a clue about.

[hoodmilk]

@ojideagu

I NEVER said that. You made no rebuttal to my statements, and misquoted me. You're done here.

[sguardian870]

Im not against or for this practice but if the people or the women who do it fell they are not losing anything and then decide that their lives are ok and yes i can see the lady above but there are many in these cultures women also who feel it is ok, why do outsider thing its alright for them to come in and interfer.

[Immortalbus]

Whats wrong with male circumcision? Nothing happened to me, I think I would be much happier the way I am no then with some weird ass thing (weirder i should say).

[ojideagu]

Exactly, I'm GLAD I was circumsised as a child. I don't agree with women that's very different.

I cannot stand these patronising morons trying to tell US cut men that there is a loss of feeling LOL they are so ignorant, and no doubt women who haven't got a clue how it feels to be a man. Trust us there is NO scientific proof there is any difference in feeling.

[1sugarseal]

I can't believe these people are willing to do something like this that will negatively effect the girl's menstrual period, release of urine, sex, and birth in the name of preventing sexual pleasure.

[hoodmilk]

When I was in the womb my mother's water broke early so she went to the ER, and they tried to rip me out of her. She was only 6 months along. I would have surely died. She walked out, and so I'm alive today. Doctors are great but they don't know what's best all the time. Goto doctors when your ill not when you are going through a natural process that women have been handling on their own for thousands of years.

[hoodmilk]

Doctors in hospitals talk tied emotional mothers into circumcision. They often harass them after after giving birth until they agree, because they use the foreskins in other medical procedures. Have your babies at HOME. If at all possible. Hospitals are where you go when you are sick. Keep your bundles of joy away from these knife happy jerk as long as possible.

[ojideagu]

You are so ignorant it is scary. There is NO loss of feeling in men who are circumsised, trust me, and many women prefere how it looks.

[hoodmilk]

@ojideagu Oh projection? Fail. You're wrong. How does removing thousands of nerve endings not take away feeling you fucking idiot?!

[hoodmilk]

Why is no one outraged over the foreskins being carelessly cut off of new born boys. Without their consent, and without good reason. Stop militating your children! How can you be against female circumcision and not male circumcision? It's ignorant, and hypocritical.

[jobedied]

Being circumcised is trama but our whole penis was not cut off these female children are having there clitoris cut out . That is some sick mean male macho control freak crap. Being circumcised has never been a problem for my self and most men.

[seyxlondon]

Because you don't know how much better sex is with the foreskin. Just remember circumcision was design to take the plesure away. And oit does so by reducing the sexual pleasure by around 80%. Meaning man circumcised as a baby never have a 100% sexual experience as nature intended.

[hoodmilk]

Hey you're 100% right, and don't forget male circumcision also makes sex painful for women while taking pleasure away from the man. i think female circumcision is slightly more crazy, but they're equally wrong, and unnecessary.

[AmyRoseXOXOXO]

Slightly more crazy? Get real. Male circumcision does not cause death. Your statements are so ridiculous. You can't begin to compare the two.

[hoodmilk]

LOL. Ummm I never said what you claim i said. Since you brought it up though, circumcision does kill some babies. Probably less than one percent. That doesn't change the FACT that children do die from an unneeded, and irrational practice. What sense does it make to circumcise a boy or girl? Give me one good reason to torture a baby, and not even get anything good out of it.

Thankfully less people are circumscribing I noticed.

[ojideagu]

It doesn't take any pleasure away from Men, Unless you have been circumsised and know how it feels don't talk such crap.

[ojideagu]

Err were the hell did you get 80% from? There is no scientific proof there is any difference.

I'm circumsised and that is complete bullshit!

[seyxlondon]

You are not thinking, if you were circumcised as a child, how do you know that there isn't any difference in pleasure????

But if you remove 20000 specialize nerve cells, of-course there will be difference in sensitivity

it is just common sense.

There is no argument against facts.

[ojideagu]

Yes the foreskin has nerve cells because it is skin, just as the skin on my penis has nerve cells or my arm, but that skin is nothing to do with the SEXUAL feeling. The penis skin feels PAIN if I pinch the skin but it is NOT sexual.

I still have some foreskin around the head, and all it just feels like normal skin, there is no sexual pleasure from it because it is just SKIN you idiot.

If you don't have a Penis then don't DARE tell me you know how the skin feels around the penis.

[ojideagu]

You need a science lesson. Foreskin is just skin, If I pinch my remaining foreskin around the head of the penis it feels pain, heat, touch, everything else but it it is not sexual in ANY way.

The head and shaft of the penis is sexual internally, not the skin surface on the outside of the penis you moron.

[seyxlondon]

Actually this is where you show how ignorant you are about the foreskin, and you are the one who needs a science lesson. Just so you know foreskin is not just skin it is an organ and produces sebum (oil) that keep the glans moist, and not to mention that the foreskin is MORE sensitive then the glans itself I KNOW BECAUSE i HAVE BOTH. Plus it protects the gland to keep it sensitive, circumcision makes the head of the penis exposed to the environment and it becomes callous.

[ojideagu]

90% of Sexual pleasure is in the BRAIN.

Most impotency is caused by MENTAL problems. It doesn't matter how senstitive their penis is it won't get hard.

Men become errect from MENTAL ideas and visual stimulation more then physical touch of the penis, which is just part of it.

That why men don't feel sexual when they urinate or it rubs in their trousers. Because they are not mentally in a sexual mood.

It is mostly the Brain not nerve cells in the penis.

[AlexanderSigal]

geez, that woman is stupid, but i feel sorry for her.

[mikkitiny]

you were circumcised in seven days after the birth? you would just jerk a bit by your legs, that's it. no doubts, circumcision has no original meaning as hygiene for genitals nowadays but it acquired big religious meaning. circumcision or so for girls is just barbaric. no even hygienic advantages can be found in the procedure. just barbaric invention.

[thoughtplacebo]

Why beat around the bush? Say what they are doing! They are cutting off the girls' clitoris. I'm not a female, but I know that that area is extremely sensitive and filled with nerves. I was circumcised as a baby, but I don't recall a thing, because I was a baby when that happened. These girls appear to be undergoing this procedure while they are young children in adolescence. It's disgusting any way you look at it.

[hoodmilk]

So because you were a baby when they took a knife to your flesh it's somehow okay. Aren't you mad no one gave you a choice? That now you can NEVER know what a foreskin is like? If you grew up and didn't want your foreskin you can have it removed, but you can never get it back, and never experience sex the way nature or god intended (depending on your beliefs).

[thoughtplacebo]

You are right hoodmilk. It shouldn't be happening period. It is a wicked practice.

[hoodmilk]

Little baby boys, and girls are perfect and should not have vital sexual organs amputated with or without proper hygiene, whether or not they are too young to remember.

[seyxlondon]

Hi thanks for your reply, and by the way the hygiene crap is so stupid and silly, it just makes me realise how ignorant people are about dicks, it takes less than a half of a second to retract the skin a mean a guy easily retracts the skin about a thousand times when he masturbates in five minutes. So how could that be a problem to wash it. LOL the reasons are so wrong and dumb.

[hoodmilk]

So true. even my fiance believes circumcision because he was circumcised. it's okay, not one is cutting my baby so it doesn't matter what he thinks. LOL. he's like "that's nasty" I'm like "how would you know?"

[thecursedland]

@hoodmilk that's rather biased of you. No one is cutting skin off my baby. So you mean to tell me, your fiancee has no choice in the matter? wow. Talk about the rights of men when it comes to children.

[hoodmilk]

@thecursedland ....... The only person who has a right to make a permanent decision about my child's body is him/her.

"wow. Talk about the rights of men when it comes to children."

WHAT. Circumcision infringes on the rights of millions. You do not have the right to infringe on someone else rights just because they can't speak for themselves. Babies have the right not to be mutilated for no good reason.

[thecursedland]

@hoodmilk Your post said no one is going to make a decision about your child except you. What about the person who impregnates you? Do they not have a say in the matter? That was my argument. There are MANY things that happen to our children that we haphazardly go along with. Especially in America. Circumcision is but one of the many things that occur, why focus on it when you can focus on all the other crimes?

[hoodmilk]

@thecursedland

LOL The fact you have to resort to misquoting me to try to discredit me is very revealing. I said "no one is cutting my baby" When he is older he can make his own decision about whether he does or doesn't want a foreskin.

I NOR ANY OTHER PERSON CAN MAKE THAT CHOICE FOR SOMEONE ELSE.

Not me or my husband.

The only time it is ever appropriate to cause what would normally be considered harm in when it is to help in a greater way.........

[thecursedland]

@hoodmilk discredit you? Now who's misquoting. I was simply pointing out your comment. Please review your comment and get back to me. Of course, I am not a supporter of mutilating infants. I'm merely commenting on your comment. I centered you out since you have many posts here. I guess you could say I was following your commentary. If you noticed, I hadn't said a thing about circumcision. Again, I was talking about choice.

[hoodmilk]

@thecursedland" Now who's misquoting. I was simply pointing out your comment. Please review your comment and get back to me." In the very same comment you're replying to I found the comment you were referring to and corrected you. Or did you even bother to read it? I never said than and you can't tell me where I did. It was a misinterpretation that I've already corrected but you're to dull to see it.

[thecursedland]

@hoodmilk I didn't spam your comment by the way, I guess someone else came in and thought it cool to spam you. I have no idea why people do that shit.

[hoodmilk]

cont....

Like when surgeon has to cut someone open in order to remove an infected appendix.

The problem here is you have people caring out an unnecessary and harmful procedure on perfectly healthy babies. On rare occasions the foreskin doesn't function properly and i has to be removed, but healthy foreskins serve many purpose, and now we know the lasting harmful effects of infant genital mutilation.

It would be simply barbaric and cruel to keep doing it under false pretenses.

[endofscene]

@thoughtplacebo Are you saying that it would be okay to cut the clitoris off of a baby girl?