Whirlwind Tactics Warhammer 40,000

[cwoyce]

Dear Fritz

I have a question regarding moving and pivoting with vehicles. Can you move a vehicle and then pivot on the spot in order to gain the advantage with your shots? (meaning turning a vehicle so that you can get off as many shots as you can?) I have a friend who pivots, moves and pivots again with his tanks, but i don't think this is right... i wanted an expert opinion.

Thanks.

[auramaster1079]

im a nid fan and im studdying how to kill marines

[Buemmo]

@auramaster1079 there are ways you can do that... but it will take a lot of time to get your nids in close combat and tear everything apart and until then.... well lets say i hope you have a lot of cheap cannon fodder

[188Katana188]

"it won't do much, so just ignore it."

haha that's what the tau guy did in the tournament, and my whirlwind killed two 12-man fire warrior squads in the first two turns........

if you get a full hit, the whirlwind actually can do a lot!

[jackboom530]

yea, i focus on infantry guardsmen when i play my friend

[727solja]

that blood angels banner is awesome. did you make that or buy it. if you made it it would be cool if you did tutotial on it or just showed it off in a video.

[TimmyTheNerd]

That green box thing on your board looks pretty cool. How did you make it and where'd you get the stuff for it?

[MegaPeople45]

Screw objectives! Kill everything you can! HAHAHA!

[LALZ1986]

@MegaPeople45 OH YEAH!!! WAAAAAAAGH!!!1

[spacemarineboy]

uuhhh..... im getting motion sickness.

[Buboes1]

lol stop movin the cam around!

[Dac198929]

Nice tactica. Very cool. Interesting you say to ignore Whirlwinds, what about things like defilers with their Battlecannons?

[quilavamaster]

while it does cut swathes through horde armies, only 3 or 4 armies are horde (imperial guard could go either way). for the majority of armies, your really depending on your opponent bothching their armor saves. most palyers play some type of space marine, or at least at my store, and a strenth 5 blast isn't going to do any better that the tank explosions, my advice, if you want a template every turn, invest in a vindicator

[ltkitty4]

I stopped watching after "this really isnt killing much". It shreds through hordes. You don't need strength 10 ap 2 to kill.

[BigAl4123]

I am knew to 40k so i want to know if anything with missiles ignore cover saves and if only a few chapters do which ones?

[Guitarzan6969]

good tips

[reviewSHF]

this guys tactics are crap

[yarrick513]

@reviewSHF what makes you say that?

[Zomakoguy]

@reviewSHF better then your >.<

[vietdude7]

I played a game vs CSM and the whirlwind was not very effective. Curse you power armor! I considered dropping it but then I watched this and played an IG army and this thing was a lifesaver.... took out 5 guys in a squad of 9. :D gave me the win in killpoints

[eldergroan]

that table you're plaing on looks like sh*t. whatever you've glossed it over with looks terrible...

[BloodAngel012]

Who cares about the table, man? Sheesh, we're watching it for the tactics anyway... :P

[warhammer40bil]

kool tips

[LearnMeHowWarhammer]

lol what you do with the whirlwind is the exact thing i do with my manticore

[jimban86]

Tyranids dont bother to hold objectivivs

[godblessolbas]

Sorry Fritz but I strongly disagree with you about the Whirlwind. Against Horde armies, namely orks, you take 3 of them, place them spread out at the back of the map and they can lay down shrivelling fire. The large blast rarely scatters more than a few inches and there's no saves for the orks, which is even better considering you don't have to roll for partial hits any more. I have take out around 20 - 30 orks per turn with this combination.

[TheThunderhammer]

He mentioned they are effective against Horde armies, and that this video demonstrates their effectiveness against more smaller unit armies such as Eldar.

[ForTheEmperorsOwn]

lol. fritz has a point. ive just started fielding my whirlwind and people just want to send their whole army after it and i just always park it in a space with my LR full of long fangs and such. so that way they get sucked down into a protracted engagement. and i can summarily cut them down.

[EagleArk]

yay i got around being poor and not being able to buy models, how i got around it is my dad is a jewler and makes lots on resin jewlry. i asked him and he said he could duplicate my models in resin!

FOR FREEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[shankork]

good idea to use the whirlwind as manipulation against your opponent.

[wazzy3007]

so the whirlwind is pretty much a distraction...

[ZenosOsgorma]

Pathfinders say no more as fritz said in the eldar ranger tactics its a 2+ cover vs all non-templates unless says so.

whirld wind bah a moving serpent with 12 avengers and bladestorm + 5+invi combat save will deal with mostly any normal troop and the tank can take out a arm 12 pretty easy if you give it a brightlance or xtwin cannon and a lower cannon 6 shots at st 6 your bound to get some 6's and it does some good troop wounds. let the transports do there job. enoying,pin and slow them down.

[somebodystudios]

ZOMG it IS rocket science ITS A WHIRLWIND!!!

[HarbingerGunship]

the vindicator dream. lol

[Chickenwing1313]

You can't really ignore a Basilisk with the fire power it has compared to the whirlwind.

[KittyRokher]

can BT take whirlwinds?

[jawaballs]

Nope, BT cannot take them.

[Zebrezzz]

i have a question Fritz:

when you barrage with the whirlwind, you dont get a cover save right? barrage ignores cover because it comes straight down doesnt it? so the str 5 ap 4 whenbarraged can insta kill most infantry, i dont understand how that makes the whirlwind not a threat

please respond :)

[somebodystudios]

your right about the barrage, but most people will consider it not a threat because roughly 80% of players play marine equivilent armys which means they always get a 3+ save, so you get pretty lucky to kill 1 marine with a whirlwind

[dt3055]

when you use barrage you dont get the balistic skill bonus against scatter which means you will scatter 4 out of 6 shots you have in a 6 turn game firing one shot every turn an average of 7 inches.

[Zebrezzz]

okay thanks, i was just making sure i wasnt getting cheated, because i play tau, and i do not like my fire warriors to instant die to pie plates

[Warpetrie]

hey do you think we could get a better look at those Dark Angels?

[aldi2500]

Fritz, please stop moving your cam around that much. Each time I watch one of your tactica vids, I'm getting sick just by watching^^

[jay6366]

i hate playin other marine players cuase there stratiges are so predictable

[OneTon101]

Fritz if you are going to stick it in a corner, why not a Thunderfire? For 15 points more I get:

Techmarine (detachable if cannon is wrecked), Bolster defenses, flamer, plasma pistol, A2, three types of salvos - one that is St6 (better for MEQ), a "no cover" shot, and another that can force dangerous terrain test on vehicle. I get smaller template shots, but four of them. Have you play tested it? If so, any thoughts?

[wargamerLoki]

Because it looks good on paper..and sucks if you really use it just set it up, and check it out roll it out

[crimsonclone]

yeah but dark angles cant take them sooooo

[IvanGTerrace]

How many should I take?

[The40kEldar]

Omg this is so awsome i thought i was crazy, but this is how i use my griffons.. except they actually kill things somethimes... lol

[fenrisiandog]

the hydra really isnt that good. its only ap 4 so against bikes not really a big deal as they have 3+ saves. even against skimmers only str 7.

[Altier215]

when you said you were waiting for jbalz i was like GET THERE ALREADY J BALLS. lol.

[KunKun85]

thanks a bajillion, I always wondered good ways to use vindicators/devastators/whirlw­inds. Glad I found your videos on them. 5 stars

[fournier1411]

Thanks Fritz.... my friend just gave me a whirlwind and i had no use for it... now i do

Thanks, Keep it up!

[Astelan1]

been watching your videos for a time now, and I didnt know you had a Dark Angels army.

How many armies do you actually have??

[xdeox19]

Hey Fritz....what is your top 10 list of annoying things?

[chipposai]

please make a video ^^^

[AutarchAndrew]

fritz im really having trouble making a wolf list at the mechcon can you help me make a list

[xdeox19]

hey andrew....can you pls tell me when ur list is formulated?

[AutarchAndrew]

xdeox usally when i can but space wolves are a trouble.since i havent played marines in about a year and i cant make a balanced list

[RetributionAngel]

it scatters to much IMO

not worth much.. most the time

good against cheap units in cover (hord with kff)

but still its too unreliable

[doomking94]

yes you can ignore a wirlwind but can you ignore a BOOMFEX

[drummerholt1234]

Nope that why I use 5 lol!

[kingofmenoth]

srry fritz but im calling bs on this vid when i was play at my local game store a whirlwind with one shot killed my entirer tactical squad

[johnkerry7]

sssshhhhh. dont you know you cant say anything that disagrees with the great fritz?

[xdeox19]

hahahahaha!

[RetributionAngel]

thats a 1 time only ^^

[kingofmenoth]

i dont care it still made me cry inside

[Imenhotep]

One not mentioned thing. Pinning. You are able to hit more units with template and cause them LD tests, potentionally stop one unit from moving for one turn etc. Its not about kills, dakka predators are better in that. Its about targeting enemy units which your opponent really not want to shoot at. Scoring units on points, genestealers in swarm, tau warriors in cover, against 3+ save armies ... not effective, target something expansive and hope for miracle

[ryanco4]

thanks,im a necron player and i usually play a dark angels army who has a whirlwind thats good info thank you.

could you make more necron vids please they help alot. thanks

Ryanco4

[Drac40k]

thanks for the video, but I'll keep my 3 dakka-preds.

[warhammerist]

yeh

[MechSpaceWolf]

Great tutorial