I got lucky, I had the chance to pick up a 60" Kuro Pro-141FD just shortly before all their stock was gone. The 141 is a monitor only, it doesn't have speakers or a tuner which isn't an issue since it is hooked to a home threatre system and cable TV. It has some adjustments that the 151 doesn't and it is a few inches thinner. It will be years before anyone produces a TV to match it.
@riffnark You saw bad one. Most experts agree that it will be 5-6 years before any company produces a plasma as good as Pioneer and 10 years before LCD can match it.
@i24kilzz Not from what I have read the Pioneer Elite Kuro is still king. Take a look at Consumer Reports, the leaders in Plasma now are Panasonic and Samsung not Sharp.
@i24kilzz Three points (1) I haven't been paying attention since I am happy with my Kuro and wasn't aware of what other manufactuers were making (2) Until OLED is viable, plasma is the best option for contrast (3) You are rude motherfucker and a troll and I hate trolls.
best money? maybe not.. but the best yes.. the cost of this tv's is insane but did you know the same engineers work with the new generations of pasasonic plasmas? check out the new panasonic plasmas that come out 3 weeks ago.. you get them a lot cheaper than kuro
i hate plasma screens i have a 50 inch tv and u cannot play video games on it because the tv will just burn out its shit i hate it I HATE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your wrong, tv's today have a safety built in them for burn ins. I have a 52 inch pioneer plasma and I sometimes play up to 6 hours of video games in a day(I get bored). Pioneer has a good safety feature for burn ins, plus LCD will never be able to give the quality picture of a pioneer plasma.
@supermanrules4 oh wow,i didnt kno they quit makin tv in general..i just thought they stopped plasmas.
well plasma is better but i dont like the burn in effects,now that the leader of plasmas quit i doubt they'lll really fix it completely,i am picky that way.
The pioneer is the best TV out there Period. But the only thing is the price, if pioneer didn't stop making TV's and put the price down a bit they'd be back at the top. But I guess you gotta pay for the best.
Pioneer is by far the best TV out there you are right. I have a 52 inch pioneer plasma and not a word of a lie when friends come over and a lot of them own LCD's they freak at my picture quality on my pioneer. Only problem is the price. Pionner needs to come back on the market and lower their price.
@TheMonkeyKingX88 its not that they quit making just plasmas they quit the TV business altoguether for now, I'm sure they will be back. The problem with this is that there are WAY TOO MANY misinformed people out there who think that LCD does give better picture quality then Plasma. Most of my friends all wanted LCD over plasma until I showed them the differences and showed actual professional reviews of both, now 4 of them ended up with a plasma, made me happy. but yeah LCD outsells plasma.
maybe because you cant pay $6000 yeah i know is a lot but you get what you pay for.. LED is still OLD CRAPPY LCD.. you don't get it? do your research fan boy and keep it real..
Nothing, and I mean nothing compares to a pioneer kuro, nothing.. Blacks are thee hardest color to reproduce on a plasma, the kuro is unmatched, period...
Ow please shut the fuck up, they don't get a EISA award for no shit you scum, Sharp Elite are now better than your ( if you even have one, probably not ) ugly Pioneer shit
@i24kilzz little potty mouth, Sharp copying its name from Pioneer, with "Elite" doesn't make the Sharp better..... Pioneer only invented plasma.... I own a Pioneer kuro elite 60" pro 141FD....
Lol, Elite was sort of a company only they didn't produce stuff by themself a other company did that, first Pioneer did that, with their own ideas they put in the tv, now Sharp produces them with them ideas in the tv, which is the best choice, Sharp.
@i24kilzz Kuro was the division within Pioneer, not elite.. try to know what you're talking about first...anyone with a half a clue and knows anything about plasma,s, will telll you Pioneer Kuro were the best plasma's on the market, still to this day, Tv's are compared to the Pioneer kuro elite....Pioneer stopped making plasma because they refused to lower their standards and put out a cheap plasma product which the market is flooded with today..end of story. Sharp is a cheaper product!
Nice! I have been to Best Buy lots of times and every time I see this TV and a Blu-Ray movie playing, I am always amazed. But the price is really high! Last time I check it was $4,000!!!
my vizio plasma tv is better NOTHING BEATS KMART - products made in mexico- I MEAN NOTHING!
andrew49848 1 month ago
No LCD has shit on this
karthik11512 2 months ago 2
i thought the xbr8 compared well to it.
themo8370 3 months ago
I hoor Panasonic will integrate the Kuro technic in their plasma soon
mandrake2008 6 months ago
I got lucky, I had the chance to pick up a 60" Kuro Pro-141FD just shortly before all their stock was gone. The 141 is a monitor only, it doesn't have speakers or a tuner which isn't an issue since it is hooked to a home threatre system and cable TV. It has some adjustments that the 151 doesn't and it is a few inches thinner. It will be years before anyone produces a TV to match it.
carbonunit57 9 months ago
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I've seen this TV in action, it's garbage.
Samsung are the best plasma TV's. Very happy with my 50" sammy.
riffnark 1 year ago
@riffnark You saw bad one. Most experts agree that it will be 5-6 years before any company produces a plasma as good as Pioneer and 10 years before LCD can match it.
carbonunit57 9 months ago 4
@carbonunit57
Well i'm sorry to say this to you, but Sharp now produces the best tv's. Sharp Elite
i24kilzz 2 months ago
@i24kilzz Not from what I have read the Pioneer Elite Kuro is still king. Take a look at Consumer Reports, the leaders in Plasma now are Panasonic and Samsung not Sharp.
carbonunit57 2 months ago
@carbonunit57
Tat becuase sharp doenst make any plasma, scum
i24kilzz 2 months ago
@i24kilzz Three points (1) I haven't been paying attention since I am happy with my Kuro and wasn't aware of what other manufactuers were making (2) Until OLED is viable, plasma is the best option for contrast (3) You are rude motherfucker and a troll and I hate trolls.
carbonunit57 2 months ago
This TV is the BEST OF THE BEST!!!
OtomoTenzi 1 year ago
it would be nice to compare the screen to a normal tv, like by the side of each other to see the difference :)
mcmanus1806 1 year ago
@southparkboy119
Watch out for the Sony GDM and other CRT monitors. They produce better picture quality than the Elite Kuro ;)
DoNultima 1 year ago
I have a KURO PRO-101FD.... I love it so much. If it ever dies, I'll probably end up with a Runco display or projector.
It's really a shame that Pioneer got out of the display market.... They were special.
otakujhp 1 year ago
Yup thats my TV and im proud !!!! Woo-hoo !!! The best of the best... just like me !!!
sideshowbob223 1 year ago
just picked 1 up from my local panasonic store, dealer had 3 new in the box 60's in his stock room, lucky for me.....
jessiev10 1 year ago
Pamela Anderson and her assets would look so good on this lol.
zark212 1 year ago
@migeru. Well, the new panasonic plasmas are not anywhere the kuro models. Nothing will touch this tv for probably another 2-5 years maybe longer
SaviorXZ 1 year ago
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after so many years they cant beat this tv,
xdeiri 1 year ago
my step dad's Pioneer plasma was $7000
MrBibi86 1 year ago
the best tv ever existed, life-like colours
image playing PS3 HDMI 1080p o_O not XBOX BECAUSE they are shit
xMaJiiCz 1 year ago
@xMaJiiCz your an immature idiot....!!!
harshlens 1 year ago
@harshlens fancy a bum??
xMaJiiCz 1 year ago
@xMaJiiCz Sigh. You're another PS3 fanboy, aren't you?
Hawkds21 1 year ago
@Hawkds21 do you fancy a bum upside down
xMaJiiCz 1 year ago
@xMaJiiCz Ergh! No!
Hawkds21 1 year ago
@Hawkds21 why not, i got a big sausage.
xMaJiiCz 1 year ago
@xMaJiiCz No. Just... no.
Hawkds21 1 year ago
oled vs newer plasmas? hows that fare ?
321thedarkknight 1 year ago
Sony XBR8 55 inch
IronManu77 1 year ago
best money? maybe not.. but the best yes.. the cost of this tv's is insane but did you know the same engineers work with the new generations of pasasonic plasmas? check out the new panasonic plasmas that come out 3 weeks ago.. you get them a lot cheaper than kuro
migeru29 2 years ago
yea okay you have fun with your shitty plasma and its burn in
AWarlordsView 2 years ago
lol you are an ignorant by saying that.. every informed person know that the new plasmas do not burn in. that is thing of the past
migeru29 2 years ago
no its not do some research
AWarlordsView 2 years ago
Well said southparkboy.
supermanrules4 2 years ago
i hate plasma screens i have a 50 inch tv and u cannot play video games on it because the tv will just burn out its shit i hate it I HATE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ahutight 2 years ago
Your wrong, tv's today have a safety built in them for burn ins. I have a 52 inch pioneer plasma and I sometimes play up to 6 hours of video games in a day(I get bored). Pioneer has a good safety feature for burn ins, plus LCD will never be able to give the quality picture of a pioneer plasma.
supermanrules4 2 years ago 2
so ur saying u can play video games on a plasma lcd
ahutight 2 years ago
@supermanrules4 oh wow,i didnt kno they quit makin tv in general..i just thought they stopped plasmas.
well plasma is better but i dont like the burn in effects,now that the leader of plasmas quit i doubt they'lll really fix it completely,i am picky that way.
TheMonkeyKingX88 1 year ago
The pioneer is the best TV out there Period. But the only thing is the price, if pioneer didn't stop making TV's and put the price down a bit they'd be back at the top. But I guess you gotta pay for the best.
Overall EXCELLENT TV
brnjac007 2 years ago
Pioneer is by far the best TV out there you are right. I have a 52 inch pioneer plasma and not a word of a lie when friends come over and a lot of them own LCD's they freak at my picture quality on my pioneer. Only problem is the price. Pionner needs to come back on the market and lower their price.
supermanrules4 2 years ago
@supermanrules4
i luv pioneer...but u do kno that they annoced that were no longer makin plasmas bc LCD sell better
..shame
TheMonkeyKingX88 1 year ago
@TheMonkeyKingX88 its not that they quit making just plasmas they quit the TV business altoguether for now, I'm sure they will be back. The problem with this is that there are WAY TOO MANY misinformed people out there who think that LCD does give better picture quality then Plasma. Most of my friends all wanted LCD over plasma until I showed them the differences and showed actual professional reviews of both, now 4 of them ended up with a plasma, made me happy. but yeah LCD outsells plasma.
supermanrules4 1 year ago
in love :P
lumicron22 2 years ago
next generation of LED LCD's are going to top this just watch you plasma boys are going down.
AWarlordsView 2 years ago
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH. Really? It's a new backlighting.
Punkdoggy800 2 years ago
how many of lcd fanboys claim about...the pioneer kuro is unmatched..
riphoff 2 years ago
maybe because you cant pay $6000 yeah i know is a lot but you get what you pay for.. LED is still OLD CRAPPY LCD.. you don't get it? do your research fan boy and keep it real..
migeru29 2 years ago
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Best indeed, i got a 60" Kuro Elite, you can check it out in my channel, Its sad to hear that pioneer is gonna stop making them :(
zelix5 2 years ago 3
I don't think it's worth it, as long as it has a good contrast ratio, good response time and good blacks that don't look like dark grey I'm happy.
But I don't need the most accurate blacks or the most accurate colors for that matter (though pretty accurate if possible).
MoonOvIce 2 years ago
Nothing, and I mean nothing compares to a pioneer kuro, nothing.. Blacks are thee hardest color to reproduce on a plasma, the kuro is unmatched, period...
Deke1 2 years ago 22
I know that very well...
Didn't you read my last comment?, I really don't think it's worth the insane premium these things used to go for.
And besides, Panasonic made most of their technology anyway...
MoonOvIce 2 years ago
@Deke1 too bad they axed the line :(
saveus2132 1 year ago
@Deke1
Not anymore, Sharp Elite has passed them
i24kilzz 2 months ago
@i24kilzz when you actually know what you're talking about, then get back to me, but until then, get a clue!!...sharp = cheap junk!!
Deke1 2 months ago
@Deke1
Ow please shut the fuck up, they don't get a EISA award for no shit you scum, Sharp Elite are now better than your ( if you even have one, probably not ) ugly Pioneer shit
i24kilzz 2 months ago
@i24kilzz little potty mouth, Sharp copying its name from Pioneer, with "Elite" doesn't make the Sharp better..... Pioneer only invented plasma.... I own a Pioneer kuro elite 60" pro 141FD....
Deke1 2 months ago
@Deke1
Lol, Elite was sort of a company only they didn't produce stuff by themself a other company did that, first Pioneer did that, with their own ideas they put in the tv, now Sharp produces them with them ideas in the tv, which is the best choice, Sharp.
i24kilzz 2 months ago
@i24kilzz Kuro was the division within Pioneer, not elite.. try to know what you're talking about first...anyone with a half a clue and knows anything about plasma,s, will telll you Pioneer Kuro were the best plasma's on the market, still to this day, Tv's are compared to the Pioneer kuro elite....Pioneer stopped making plasma because they refused to lower their standards and put out a cheap plasma product which the market is flooded with today..end of story. Sharp is a cheaper product!
Deke1 2 months ago
whats the contrast ratio?
frankixbox 2 years ago
this tv is orgasmic!
amdnovello 2 years ago 2
I saw one her in a BB -2999.99. crazy
keefy6 2 years ago
Nice! I have been to Best Buy lots of times and every time I see this TV and a Blu-Ray movie playing, I am always amazed. But the price is really high! Last time I check it was $4,000!!!
CrApPyDialuPx 2 years ago
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Omgz! Fuck off you fucking nigger.
jeffs99gt 2 years ago
Wow...
CrApPyDialuPx 2 years ago
Very nice but Pioneer stopped making TVs.
wartarot 2 years ago