Mat 16:24-27 Then said Jesus..If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
@Lrothtube These people who claim they alone are right and dont seek truth have a religiouse pharisitcal spirit in them. Christ apposed such ppl. Christ if anything was far from religiouse. He spoke to our father in prayer and was answered. Christ is the true representation of what we all can expect from our Father in heaven (John 14:9). He showed compassion and love to the sinners (John 8:8-11), and apposed the selfrightiouse and accused them as vipers and hypocrites.
Mat 16:24-27 Then said Jesus..If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
THE LORD JESUS SHALL BE REVEALED FROM HEAVEN WITH HIS MIGHTY ANGELS, IN FLAMING FIRE TAKING VENGEANCE ON THEM THAT KNOW NOT GOD, AND THAT OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST: WHO SHALL BE PUNISHED WITH EVERLASTING DESTRUCTION FROM THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD, AND FROM THE GLORY OF HIS POWER..Thessalonians 1:7-9.
For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, ye, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that comes shall burn them up. Mal 4:1.
@SwordofManticorE Do you know that for every scripture that talks about God's judgment, there is one that talks about God's mercy? In fact there are more scriptures on mercy than there are judgment. And we know that mercy triumphs over judgment(James 2:13). You are correct. The Bible teaches Mercy and Reconciliation not damnation and separation. God Bless You.
Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be INSTRUCTED, ye judges of the EARTH.Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye PERISH from the way, when his warth is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him. Psa 2:10-12.
Rom 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, AND EVERY TONGUE SHALL CONFESS TO GOD.
Rom 14:12 SO THEN EVERYONE OF US SHALL GIVE ACCOUNT OF HIMSELF TO GOD.
Hbr 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto ALL THEM THAT "OBEY" HIM.
But after thy hardness and impenitent heart tresurest up unto thyself wrath and revelation of righteous judgment of God; who will render to every man according to his deeds:To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honor and immortalality,eternal life: But unto them are contentious, and do not OBEY the truth, but obey unrigheousness, indignation and wrath. Rom 2.
Isa 13:9-11 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth... And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.
@TheTriumph777 Isaiah 19:22-25 "And the Lord shall smite Egypt:He shall smite and heal it:and they shall return even unto the Lord, and shall heal them.In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and Assyria,even a blessing in the mist of the land: Whom the Lord of host shall bless,saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hand, and Israel mine inheritance." Mercy triumphs over judgment(James 2:13). God Bless!!!
@741rjohnson For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, THOU SHALT NOT KILL; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment... .And whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Mat 5:20-22.
@TheTriumph777 God's judgment-- "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha and the cities about them suffering the vengence of eternal fire." Jude 1:7 God's Mercy "And your sisters, Sodom with her daughters will return to their former state,and Samaria with her daughters will return to their former state, then you with your daughters will also return to your former state.'' Ezekiel 16:55 Mercy triumphs over judgment" James 2:13
"And your sisters, Sodom with her daughters will return to their former state,and Samaria with her daughters will return to their former state, then you with your daughters will also return to your former state.'' Ezekiel 16:55
Eze 16:63 That thou mayest remember, and be confounded, and never open thy mouth any more because of thy shame, when I am pacified toward thee for all that thou hast done, saith the Lord GOD.
@741rjohnson 2Pe 3:5-7 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: BUT THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH, WHICH ARE NOW, BY THE SAME WORD ARE KEPT IN STORE, RESERVED UNTO FIRE AGAINST THE DAY OF JUDGMENT AND PERDITION OF UNGODLY MEN.
I don't believe in purgatory, but i believe God is coming back with fire instead of a flood.
@741rjohnson Psa 34:16 For the face of the LORD is against them that do evil, to cut off the remembrance of them from the earth.
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1Peter 3:12 For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.
1Timothy 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
@741rjohnson Pay attention. I come at you with the word of God only.
2Th 1:8 He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.
2Th 1:9-10 They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the majesty of his power on the day he comes to be glorified in his holy people and to be marveled at among all those who have believed. This includes you, because you believed our testimony to you.
@741rjohnson The Bible does not support Universalism, and i don't believe in Purgatory. The ministry of God's wrath will be poured out upon the ungodly on the day of Judgment.
Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and Gommorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven....Gen 19:24.
History will repeat itself at the end of the world.
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...And fire came down from God out of heaven, and DEVOURED THEM. Rev 20:9.
Rev. : 3:18 "I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see."
Psa 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
David gives clear indication, hell means grave.
He that overcomes shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and UNBELIEVING, and the abominable, and MURDERERS, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, AND ALL LIARS, SHALL HAVE THEIR PART IN THE LAKE WHICH BURNS WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE WHICH IS THE SECOND DEATH. Rev 21:7-8.
@Lrothtube The Bible does not support Universalism, and i don't believe in Purgatory. The ministry of God's wrath will be poured out upon the ungodly on the day of Judgment.
Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and Gommorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven....Gen 19:24.
...And fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. Rev 20:9.
History will repeat itself at the end of the world.
@SwordofManticorE Gal 5:18-21 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Read...Bible Threatenings Explained, why do all the "hell mongers" want to tout ,death, doom, gloom, fear, threats, destruction,fire, guile,panic,judgment, strife, division,killing,war,doom,doom,doom, the sky is falling, the sky is falling,satan, satan, satan,??? I could go on & on, where for the love of Jesus Christ is there ANY GOOD NEWS IN ANY OF THESE COMMENTS HERE???? I so tire of it, soooooooo quickly, thats not MY FATHER, thats not MY JESUS!!!!!!!!!
I have been very dismayed by this false teaching &the Lord gave me another vision last night.I saw two prophets. One had a wooden staff like Moses,& the other had a staff, but the top was carved into the head of a fox.I saw he was a false prophet.A fox is cunning, a predator, lives underground in darkness in a hole of his own making.Universalism is Cotton Candy Christianity&has not the true milk of His Word.Tent loves to hear himself talk.If ur going to throw out scriptures of hell, why not all?
@suzeeq41 ok, not sure if anyone can relate to these dreams, they belong to you, I just happen to find peace knowing that God is Sovereign, fire is mentioned MANY times in the bible, one being that God, IS AN ALL CONSUMING FIRE, I refuse to serve God in fear, I will walk in peace before God knowing, he is in CONTROL, & if he chooses to burn the place to the ground,,,it is His choice, but I know that God is more loving than this, I do not fear his judgments& I dont listen to others who tout fear.
@Lrothtube Let God be true and men liars. I never believe in anyone who says he had a vision from God wether the news be good or bad. They need to show proof first from God. Remember 2Pet2:1-3.
@SwordofManticorE thats what Im saying, coming at me with " Ive had a vision," I have an " "angel"....it means NOTHING to me, now if God wants to come to ME in a dream or vision thats fine, but it hasnt happened yet & Im not counting on it, so if he does it will be a surprise & it will be meant for ME, other than that I can not take someone elses "dream" interpretation to be from God, I dont even know that person.
@Lrothtube! ...I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
Let favour be shewed to the wicked, YET WILL HE NOT LEARN RIGHEOUSNESS: in the land of uprightness will he deal unjustly, and will not behold the majesty of the LORD. LORD, when thy hand is lifted up, they will not see: but they shall see, and be ashamed for their envy at the people; yea, the fire of thine enemies shall devour them. Isa 26:9-11.
@eternityeverlasting1 Read...Bible Threatenings Explained, why do all the "hell mongers" want to tout ,death, doom, gloom, fear, threats, destruction,fire, guile,panic,judgment, strife, division,killing,war,doom,doom,doom, the sky is falling, the sky is falling,satan, satan, satan,??? I could go on & on, where for the love of Jesus Christ is there ANY GOOD NEWS IN ANY OF THESE COMMENTS HERE???? I so tire of it, soooooooo quickly, thats not MY FATHER, thats not MY JESUS!!!!!!!!!
@suzeeq41 If you study church history you will know that for the first 500 years it was the teaching of the Bible of Universal Salvation this is the GOOD NEWS, then moving on you will find Augustine & Constantine & others who brought in the teaching of "hell" at the counsel of Nicaea in 787ad, then you have Calvin (who actually had someone KILLED) who brought in "election" , so there happens to be 3 positions, 2 of them are FALSE doctrine, study church history, youll figure it out
Read! Rev 21:24-27 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it. And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
@eternityeverlasting1 Read...Bible Threatenings Explained, why do all the "hell mongers" want to tout ,death, doom, gloom, fear, threats, destruction,fire, guile,panic,judgment, strife, division,killing,war,doom,doom,doom, the sky is falling, the sky is falling,satan, satan, satan,??? I could go on & on, where for the love of Jesus Christ is there ANY GOOD NEWS IN ANY OF THESE COMMENTS HERE???? I so tire of it, soooooooo quickly, thats not MY FATHER, thats not MY JESUS!!!!!!!!!
@Lrothtube Read...Bible Threatenings Explained, why do all the "hell mongers" want to tout ,death, doom, gloom, fear, threats, destruction,fire, guile,panic,judgment, strife, division,killing,war,doom,doom,doom, the sky is falling, the sky is falling,satan, satan, satan,??? I could go on & on, where for the love of Jesus Christ is there ANY GOOD NEWS IN ANY OF THESE COMMENTS HERE???? I so tire of it, soooooooo quickly, thats not MY FATHER, thats not MY JESUS!
here are a couple of more sites I know off the top of my head, may Jesus Christ deliver you from traditions of men & fear.
Bible-truths(.com)
Bible Threatenings Explained (google)
Kingdombiblestudies(.org)
Martin Zender(.com)
richardwaynegarganta(.com)
salvationofall(org)
Universalsalvation(.org)
I have learned so much from each of the above sites, I truly am set free in Jesus Christ, I am ecstatic about Jesus & what is life blood has done for ALL mankind on the cross, God Bles
Carlton Pearson was in prayer for the 'lost' who had never heard of Jesus, when it was revealed to him that no one goes to hell for unbelief. He calls this revelation the gospel of Inclusion. He left the pentecostal church and became a new thought teacher. It is time to realize that God has given us the gift of eternal life. Now it is our turn to learn how to live, to learn how to serve Him by serving others. Follow Micah 6:8 God wishes for us an abundant life. Let's start living it.
2 Timothy 4:3 I can't believe what you are doing! You have literally 'burned' the scriptures that warn of hell! You blaspheme the Holy Spirit & that is unforgiveable! Did you not hear Jesus say that it is better to pluck out an eye, etc than to have the whole body cast into hell?Have you not seen the multitude of hell-witnesses giving their testimony on utube?Somebody, somewhere 'decides' in his knowledge (lack of wisdom) that hell doesn't exist?! You hold Christ's crucifixion worthless.Repent.
@suzeeq41 I don't hold Christ's crucifixion worthless. It is YOU who does that. I magnify the Cross stating that it is efficacious for all mankind. You should repent and offer true hope rather than a gospel which is no gospel at all.
@tentmaker777 You, false prophet,turn your back on God's word by not believing the TRUTH of his gospel &/or twisting it to suit your itching ears. He will NOT be mocked.Tho He wants all to be saved He warns of hell & you in turn have been seduced into ignoring many scriptures.Read Rev 22, esp 14-22.He warns to wash one's robe & make it white, for outside the gate are unrepentant sinners. He says certain people will not enter in & warns one shouldn't take away from His Book.
@suzeeq41 So Jesus wants all to be saved but His Father won't give Him all so He can't save them? That makes no sense. As for the gates at the end of the book, they are WIDE OPEN and He says come. And everyone WILL COME. Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess Jesus is lord to the glory of God the Father. Friend, you have such little faith, why do you doubt? Because Satan has blinded your eyes to God's power. You are glorifying satan and don't even know it. Amazing
@tentmaker777 You launch right into changing His words, which is warned about in Rev. 22:19. Rev 22 does NOT say the gates are wide open to everyone therefore you lie.Great faith means believing His word.You reject Matt7:21."Not everyone who says Lord Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven but only he who does the will of My Father." That is a powerful warning, why do you reject His Word? You glorify satan by rejecting the truth of God's word & twisting it. I pray for you to repent.
@suzeeq41 I lie? "God will have all men be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth." 1 Tim. 2:4 Go ahead and accuse Paul, the apostle to the nations, of lying. I'm merely quoting scripture. And while most of mankind during this time, including most of the Jews in Jesus' time did NOT come to faith, God WILL ultimately save them because the Father has given ALLLL into His hands and He will lose none.
@tentmaker777 Again, you cling only to Paul and ignore Jesus' own words of Matt. 7:21 and Rev. 22. That is what so many people do, pick and choose, and it is so wrong! I pray for you. In fact, I verily, verily pray that you will receive a clear SIGN you are wrong. God forbid that I would tempt God, but I feel this is so important that I sincerely pray to God that you receive a very slight burn on your person in the next week. How I pray for you!! Jesus came to save us from Hell!
Mat 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Luk 13:23-24 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? AND HE SAID UNTO THEM, STRIVE TO ENTER IN AT THE STRAIT GATE: FOR MANY, I SAY UNTO YOU, WILL SEEK TO ENTER IN, AND SHALL NOT BE ABLE.
@suzeeq41 Hell is a word not used until about 800ad, Jesus Christ did not use hell because he spoke aramiac and the orginal Holy inspired text are in Greek & Hebrew, "hell" is used in place of the word Hades, or Sheol, or Tartarus, or Gehenna, the passage you are referring to about casting body in "Hell" should really read Gehenna & Jesus was speaking to the Jews of his day and not to us! It in no threat for God to throw us in Gehenna, google it and you will see a landscaped valley!Kapeesh?
@Lrothtube The Word speaks to US! I received the Holy Spirit & with it a revelation.An angel was sent to me & he said thus: "Behold, I saw a great dragon thrown down to earth,and he began to gather souls unto himself because he knew he had but a little time.' I was allowed to hear Satan's voice,& he even tempted me.Therefore the souls Satan is gathering to himself will belong to him. Kapeesh? The angel said, "Witness me." It is done. Christ's gospel isn't universalism.Accept His Word
@suzeeq41 ok not sure what youre trying to say here, SATAN is gathering souls? So what you are telling me is that satan is more powerful than Jesus?hmmm? Are you saying that Adams fall is more poweful than Jesus?hmmm? Are you saying that mans "choice" is more powerful than Jesus? hmmmm? Wow, according to what youre sharing, Jesus isnt much of a Savior at all, when I thought that the bible said Jesus is the Savior of the WHOLE WORLD in several places? You seem a little "edgy" are you ok?
@Lrothtube It is you who say satan is more powerful than God. Like Adam & Eve,people have free will to choose to follow God or follow satan. Because they chose to obey satan doesn't mean he's more powerful. Got kicked out of heaven didn't he? You don't mock me, you mock who sent me, & you mock the angel who spoke to me.
@suzeeq41 Ok I cant relate to this "angel" that spoke to you, I have no knowledge of this. I do know what the bible says: By their fruits you shall know them, this is what Galatians 5 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law....now having said this with all due respect, I have not seen any of this in ANY of your comments here, Gary on the other hand does show these fruits
@suzeeq41Please forgive me but you are sounding a little "off" with this "angel" thing, I can not bear witness to this occurence & it really has no bearing on my testimony, I am not shaken by threats of fear, & I really sense that this is the only thing you have used to speak to anyone here on this thread is fear & threats from what I sense are not from the Holy Spirit, especially when the word says "Come, let us REASON together, not getting that vibe from you at all, sorry :(
@Lrothtube I get that a lot from people who don't believe in the supernatural. Have you not read of angel visitations in the bible? I remember now, you pick and choose. There is a hell, my friend, but if one trusts in Jesus, one needn't fear. I have much joy, much closeness in the Lord, many prophetic dreams visions. I am not lacking. Oh, and I love His Word and believe it. I have discernment to tell this man is a false prophet.
@suzeeq41 Adam &Eve, please dont tell me you think that the "fall" or sin caught Jehovah off guard, you really dont think that do you? Listen God already KNEW that Adam & Eve would sin, in fact he set it up that way, sorry if you cant wrap your mind around this because they wont teach you this in the currently accepted message, but if you think just A LITTLE BIT DEEPER , you would realize that Jesus Christ was slain...from the FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, it is all set up, a Godly one at that!
2Pe 3:5-7 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: BUT THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH, WHICH ARE NOW, BY THE SAME WORD ARE KEPT IN STORE, RESERVED UNTO FIRE AGAINST THE DAY OF JUDGMENT AND PERDITION OF UNGODLY MEN.
I don't believe in purgatory, but i believe God is coming back with fire instead of a flood.
You cazy woman! Why would God set-up Adam & Eve inorder for them to sin?? God gave both of them a strict command, they disobeyed that order! It was satan who deceived them into thinking they would be as gods, knowing good and evil.
@TheLordOfHost1 I know that God is SOVEREIGN, its not like God did NOT KNOW that Adam & Eve would sin, he put the adversary & the tree right in the Garden, it is a divine set-up because if you know your scripture , you know that the bible says " the lamb that was slain FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD", God is in COMPLETE CONTROL, The good, the bad & the ugly, where do you think evil came from if not from God himself, GOD IS THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS, !!!
@TheLordOfHost1Now dont go twisting what I have said, I am not saying that God is evil, I am saying he created evil & allows evil for his purposes & glory, he is in CHARGE of the universe and that is all there is to that, some people think they make the choice about God when infact it is God who CHOOSES us! Jesus is the savior of ALL men! There is no disputing it, if people want to believe in their pagan doctrine its on them, but my Father IS SO MUCH LARGER than that, GOD IS LOVE,&flows justice
@TheLordOfHost1 "I am the Lord, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God. I will gird you, though you have not known Me; 6That men may know from the rising to the setting of the sun That there is no one besides Me. I am the Lord, and there is no other, 7The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the Lord who does all these," (Isaiah 45:5-7).
@TheLordOfHost1 ok listen, God created "satan" which people call the perfect angel or cheribum, well I dont believe that "satan" Adam or Eve were created perfect without flaw as some may teach, because IF this is the case how does a being go from Perfect to Imperfect? This is not possible, and if it is...well then we better watch the hell out then...BECAUSE THE PERFECT BEING IN JEHOVAH...COULD GO BELLY UP AT ANY MOMENT, based ON THIS theology or school of thought...kapeesh?
Eze 28:14-15 ...Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, TILL INIQUITY WAS FOUND IN THEE.
HOW ART THOU FALLEN FROM HEAVEN, O LUCIFER, ( SATAN ) SON OF THE MORNING! HOW ART THOU CUT DOWN TO THE GROUND, WHICH DIDST WEAKEN THE NATIONS! Isa14:12.
@TheLordOfHost1 I am not disagreeing with the text you use here, what I am saying is that God is SOVEREIGN, all things were created by Jesus Christ, in him, for him , and to him, and that he IS IN CONTROL, he created the adversary for his OWN purposes, & glory, NOTHING that is or has ever been created is not of Jesus Christ, he has his purposes in the adversary, not to worried about it, dont believe in an eternal torture chamber somewhere, if you want to go ahead thats on you, not Jesus
1John 3:8-10 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
@TheLordOfHost1 Well if God is Sovereign & in charge of the whole universe...then yes, yes he did, "for this PURPOSE the Son of God was MANIFESTED" "who ever is born of God does not commit sin ( this is speaking only of JESUS) God in us the HOPE OF GLORY, God resides in us & we are sinners, Until we are raised incorruptible we will always sin, who says he has no sin is a LIAR!! Grace does not give us a license to sin, it takes away urge to sin, at least in my life, I cant speak for you
You are wrong! God gave angels and man free will. God knew the outcome of Adam & Eve's failure to comply to his will, God made provision for Jesus to be the lamb that was slain from the foundation of the world.
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; AND SHALL CAST THEM INTO A FURNACE OF FIRE: THERE SHALL BE WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH. THEN SHALL THE RIGHTEOUS SHINE FORTH..Mat 13:45-43
Romans 5 15. But the gift is not like the trespass. For if
the MANY (ALL!) died by the trespass of the one man,
how much more did God's grace and the gift that
came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ,
overflow to the MANY!(ALL!)
CHAPTER 6 WHAT SHALL WE SAY THEN?? SHALL WE CONTINUE IN SIN, THAT GRACE MAY ABOUND ?? GOD FORBID. HOW SHALL WE, THAT ARE DEAD TO SIN, LIVE ANY LONGER THEREIN??
FOR THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH; BUT THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE.
@TheTriumph777 Thanks, I couldnt agree more with the text you have choosen, ALL DIE IN ADAM, ALL ARE VIVIFIED IN jESUS, where sin abounds , yes Grace much MORE abounds, hence Jesus atonement. The wages of sin is DEATH, not some eternal torture chamber somewhere, Adam=sin, death, Jesus=forgivesness, life, reconcilliation, THIS IS THE GOOD NEWS for the WHOLE WORLD, we all sin, but by the grace of God, we sin less& less& less, nothing we do, What did I need to wake up to I am a sinner saved by God
@TheTriumph777 do you think Jesus will throw me in "hell" for not believing in "hell" LOL..LOL, I thought we need to believe in Jesus, now we have to "believe" in the eternal torture chamber somewhere? hmmmm, I must have missed that part in the Bible? Believe on the"eternal torture chamber" & though shall be saved...LOL LOL LOL Where is that scripture, tell me where to find it, Ha ha ha, Ill have to share that with my loved ones so they dont fry, cause they dont believe in Hell...LOL LOL LOL
@Lrothtube1 John4: 18 There is no FEAR in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with PUNISHMENT. The ONE who fears is not made perfect in love.
My testimony does not consist of the FEAR of some eternal torture chamber ,, just saying that "eternal torture" seem DIABOLICAL to me and the rest of humanity, My testimony is the righteous character of a LOVING FATHER, who cares for ALL of mankind, this is why he sent his Son to the WHOLE WORLD, not PUNISHMENT, Jesus took that
2Pe 3:5-7 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: BUT THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH, WHICH ARE NOW, BY THE SAME WORD ARE KEPT IN STORE, RESERVED UNTO FIRE AGAINST THE DAY OF JUDGMENT AND PERDITION OF UNGODLY MEN.
I told you, i don't believe in purgatory, but i believe God is coming back with fire instead of a flood!
John4: 18 There is no FEAR in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with PUNISHMENT. The ONE who fears is not made perfect in love
If you love God, you will not fear the outcome.
For to be carnally minded is DEATH; but to be spiritually minded is LIFE AND PEACE.
Because the carnal mind is ENMITY AGAINST GOD: For it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be... NOW IF ANY MAN HAVE NOT THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, HE IS NONE OF HIS. Rom 8:6-9.
@TheTriumph777 Couldnt agree with this text more, & this is what we need to share, so men may be RELEASED from their fears, God wants men to be RELEASED from fear of him, but it is the "hell fire" preachers that INSTILL FEAR, when the bible says IT IS HIS KINDNESS THAT LEADS US TO REPENTANCE, NOT HIS THREATS, You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar, kapeesh? Or do you like the guilt trip, "pack your bags were going on a guilt trip" no thanks, been there DONE THAT
Act 26:16-18 I Jesus have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee; Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee, To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
Jam 2:10-12 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. SO SPEAK YE, AND SO DO, AS THEY THAT SHALL BE JUDGED BY THE LAW OF LIBERTY.
And the temple of God was opened in heaven, AND THERE WAS SEEN IN HIS TEMPLE THE ARK OF HIS TESTAMENT. Rev 11:19.
@TheTriumph777 John4:18 There is no FEAR in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with PUNISHMENT.The ONE who fears is not made perfect in love
My testimony does not consist of the FEAR of some eternal torture chamber ,, just saying that "eternal torture" seem DIABOLICAL to me and the rest of humanity, My testimony is the righteous character of a LOVING FATHER, who cares for ALL of mankind, this is why he sent his Son to the WHOLE WORLD, not PUNISHMENT, Jesus took that
1John 3:7-10 Little children, LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. HE THAT COMMITTETH SIN IS OF THE DEVIL; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
It's not hard to keep the ten commandments! Ur a confused heretic.
@TheTriumph777 ok so now you want to keep the law? hmmm the 10 commandments? hmmm? there is a lot of danger in that, those who live by the law will die by the law even in a tittle , well you just threw Jesus under the bus by using the 10 commandments of an example of your "righteousness" ....epic Fail! Ouch! Not sure where you stand with the whole atonement grace thing, but from over here its not looking to good, poor guy, you are still in bondage, & chains, & for that I am truly sorry :(
@TheTriumph777 I believe just what the scripture says "that he might destroy the works of the devil" I BELIEVE THAT, I believe it happened at the CROSS, I am not waiting for Jesus to do this in the future somewhere, I believe it has already happened and I am walking in that, peace , love & joy of God, what is your damage? why cant you believe the Father, why are you so "hell bent" on destruction, God isnt. by their FRUITS you shall know them
@Lroth 1Jo 4:17-20 In this way, love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment, because in this world we are like him. There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love. 1Jo 4:20 If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.
@TheTriumph777 Ok this is just random, not sure what point you are even trying to make, Are you trying to say that I dont love my brother? You dont even know me, I feel secure that I have not commented one UNLOVING thing. I dont know, as far as judgment goes, Gods judgments are meant for correction & restoration, so not quite sure where you are going with that either? Random text ? Well anyways I sent you a private message, if you need resources let me know, other than that I dont want to argue
How can i pm you? You have blocked all my channels, just because i'me sending you nothing but scriptures. I will not read your pm's until you unblock me.
@eternityeverlasting1 ok, um, youre being weird,like a troll, are we saying this kind of behavior is of Jesus Christ or God the Father, Im not feelin it!!! Youre acting like a creep!
@SwordofManticorE You really are a knight in shining armor LOL, yes, & thank you, I figured it out when he said that I had just pm'd him & I only wrote a personal message to "triump"... Not trying to be rude, but guy is just really creepy, what is that all about? Trolling , creepin? Oh well, I will not waste precious time with that guy, on to the next battle so to speak, hey did you see my advatar?.....we match...God Bless you... off to work, see you around!!
@Lrothtube My wife calls me her Knight, or as she says in German Ritter. Anyone who calls universal salvation a vile demonic teaching has exposed the hidden desires in their heart. they do not share the same desires as our father. We must ask our Father to humble them (merciful) to bring them to the truth God willing.
Universalism is false! Jesus opened away of salvation on the cross. In Act 26:16-18 Jesus had died and gone to heaven, but Jesus then made a visit to paul who was destroying the followers of Christ. Jesus commanded paul to now carry the gospel.
..Unto whom now I send thee, To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
1John 3:13-15 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you. We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: AND YE KNOW THAT NO MURDERER HATH ETERNAL LIFE ABIDING IN HIM.
If someone wiped out your whole family, you came home and found everyone slaughtered, you will soon change your tune about Universalism, yet the murder rate is so high in your country.
Matthew 15:13 He replied, "Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots." Amen, Lord Jesus, may it be done according to Your will. Universalism is a noxious weed that twists the scriptures to suit a 'pleasure-loving' culture seeking a harlot church.The Word of the Lord endures forever. Tent,read Ezekiel about the blood that will be on your head for leading these sheep away from the Truth. Translations are fine, but you re-translate, sadly. God have mercy.
@SwordofManticorE! For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, THOU SHALT NOT KILL; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment... ..And whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Mat 5:20-22.
Isa 34:1-3 Swordo! Come near, ye nations, to hear; and hearken, ye people: let the earth hear, and all that is therein; the world, and all things that come forth out of it. For the indignation of the LORD is upon all nations, and his fury upon all their armies: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter. Isa 34:3 Their slain also shall be cast out, and their stink shall come up out of their carcases, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood
@eternityeverlasting1 Isaiah 25:7-8 "And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people,and the vail that is spread over over all nations. He will swallow up death in victory;and the Lord God will wipe away tears from off all faces;and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth:and the Lord hath spoken it."
Isa 34:4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, AND THE HEAVEN SHALL BE ROLLED TOGETHER AS A SCROLL: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling from the fig tree.
Rev 6:14-17 AND THE HEAVEN DEPARTED AS A SCROLL when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
FOR THE GREAT DAY OF HIS WRATH IS COME; AND WHO SHALL BE ABLE TO STAND.
@SwordofManticorE DO NOT CALL THE WORD OF THE LORD, DARKNESS! YOU ARE IN DARKNESS! DEMONS CONTROL YOU!
Gal 6:7 BE NOT DECEIVED; GOD IS NOT MOCKED: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
Gal 6:9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
@eternityeverlasting1 Psalm 66:3-4 "Say unto God how terrible art thou in thy works! Through the greatness of thy power shall thine enemies submit themselves to thee. All the earth shall worship thee,and shall sing unto thee; they shall sing unto thy name.''
@eternityeverlasting1 Psalm 145:8-10 "The Lord is gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy. The Lord is good to all:and his tender mercies are over all his works. All thy works shall praise thee, O Lord; and thy saints shall bless thee.''
@eternity "For His anger endureth but a moment(Psalm 30:5)'' but-"His mercy endureth forever(Psalm 118:29;Psalm 136:1-26).''God's judgment "And whosoever was not written in the book of life was {cast} into the lake of fire(Revelation 20:15).''God's mercy "For the Lord will not {cast} off forever:But though he cause grief yet he will have compassion according to the multitude of his mercies.For he does not afflict willingly nor grieve the children of men Lamentations 3:31,33
@eternityeverlasting1 James 2:13 "For judgment will be merciless to one who has shown no mercy; mercy triumphs over judgment.' For every scripture that talks about God's judgment, you will find a scripture that talks about God's Mercy. Judgment does not get the final word, Mercy does. Mercy triumphs over judgment.
@eternityeverlasting1 God's judgment "And {whosoever was} not found written in the book of life was cast into the {lake of fire}.'Revelation 20:15. God's mercy "And {whosoever will}, let him take the {water of life} freely.'' Revelation 22:17
Act 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.
Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall come forth: THEY THAT DONE GOOD, UNTO THE RESURECTION OF LIFE; AND THEY THAT HAVE DONE EVIL, UNTO THE RESURRECTION OF DAMNATION. Jhn 5:28-29.
...Some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.. Dan 12:2-3.
Mat 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Luk 13:23-24 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? AND HE SAID UNTO THEM, STRIVE TO ENTER IN AT THE STRAIT GATE: FOR MANY, I SAY UNTO YOU, WILL SEEK TO ENTER IN, AND SHALL NOT BE ABLE.
@suzeeq41 Satan seems to be a little to powerful in your life, Father God & Jesus Christ are a God of peace, maybe do a strong word search on this, 1 John 4:18, perfect love cast out all fear, dont be so fearful, God is Sovereign, he is in CONTROL, he has this, no worries, relax, go to tentmakers website, lots of Great teaching there, this is just ONE site that is disputing the doctrine of demons of "hell fire/eternal torture chamber". or hopebeyondhell(,com) is good, relax, Jesus HAS THIS!!
@Lrothtube here are a couple of more sites I know off the top of my head, may Jesus Christ deliver you from traditions of men & fear.
Bible-truths(.com)
Bible Threatenings Explained (google)
Kingdombiblestudies(.org)
Martin Zender(.com)
richardwaynegarganta(.com)
salvationofall(org)
Universalsalvation(.org)
I have learned so much from each of the above sites, I truly am set free in Jesus Christ, I am ecstatic about Jesus & what is life blood has done for ALL mankind on the cross, God Bles
@Lrothtube I dont fear,I'm merely overturning tables here.Sadly, people seek harlot churches & pay them to make them feel good,& this has got to be the worst.Jesus said His Father would uproot every plant not planted by Him.Universlism is a noxious weed that may create unrepentant sinners.Satan truly is roaming as an 'angel of light'. I fear for tentmakers soul & pray for the scales to be removed from his eyes to the Truth of Jesus' teaching. Lazarus & the rich man in hell is clear.
@suzeeq41 So every beggar goes to abrahams busom according to you? Universal salvation is just as universal as the fall of man by Adam, and another thing. God desires the universal salvation of all men and the rightiouse will get what they desire. As for your desires, it is more than obviouse. Christ taught about a person like you. He spoke about the older brother in the parable of the prodical son who refused to except his sinning brother back home. thats you in a nutshell.
@suzeeq41 Universal SALVATION IS BASED ON 100'S OF SCRIPTURES, It is unfortunate that you do not understand that Jesus speaking of Lazarus & rich man IS A PARABLE, a story, an analogy, & it isnt even directed AT US, he was speaking to the Pharisees at the time, because the Jews WERE GETTING READY TO LOOSE THE MANTLE OF GOD, & the Gentiles would be grafted in their place, you can say you dont have fear, but I am sorry from what your comments say here it is the only thing you convey, not of Jesus
“Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the WORLD. (Jn 1:29)
and he -- he is a propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but also for the WHOLE WORLD 1Jn 2:2
So, then, as through one offence TO ALL MEN it is to condemnation, so also through one declaration of 'Righteous' it is TO ALL MEN to justification of life; Romans 5:18
I dont sense love of Jesus in your comments, I sense fear, Im not sure why you share death & destruction but it is not of Jesus Christ!
@suzeeq41 here are a couple of more sites I know off the top of my head, may Jesus Christ deliver you from traditions of men & fear.
Bible-truths(.com)
Bible Threatenings Explained (google)
Kingdombiblestudies(.org)
Martin Zender(.com)
richardwaynegarganta(.com)
salvationofall(org)
Universalsalvation(.org)
I have learned so much from each of the above sites, I truly am set free in Jesus Christ, I am ecstatic about Jesus & what HIS life blood has done for ALL mankind on the cross, God Bless
@suzeeq41 Christ who warned the Jews about Gehenna spoke about it only to the Jews, James did as well, but the apostel Paul who taught us all what our heavnly Father wanted us to know (Acts 20:27) never once taught the gentiles about Gehenna. Why is that? I know why, I just want to hear it from a hell believer.
@SwordofManticorE You say you accept only Paul's teaching, thereby picking verses w/itching ears.I believe in Hell because Jesus said there was a hell. Period.You don't abide in the Word from His very own mouth? Your God is like a school principal who says "oh, boys will be boys" & never punish.Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. Ur God is a wimp.The God who loves me is just, saying He will give everyone their reward-Rev22:11-12. He says be holy. Follow the Word NOT FLESH
@suzeeq41 It is your ears that itch. If you combine a carnal minded view of scripture with fear, self rightiouse blind ego, a hidden desire for vengence and spark the religiouse engine with a pharisitical spirit. You get a determend believer of hell. I gave you a question that is impossible for a deterend believer of a hell to answer. Why Paul never taught the gentiles about Gehenna, even though he taught us all what our heavenly Father wants us to know.
Mat 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Luk 13:23-24 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? AND HE SAID UNTO THEM, STRIVE TO ENTER IN AT THE STRAIT GATE: FOR MANY, I SAY UNTO YOU, WILL SEEK TO ENTER IN, AND SHALL NOT BE ABLE.
@SwordofManticorE You throw stones not knowing me at all. I pray EACH DAY for the conversion of sinners.Jesus taught of hell thru parable of Lazarus & the rich man, which you reject.You reject His Words from His very own mouth. Paul isn't the Lord.If I speak not, God will hold me accountable. Matt 7:21.Jesus did not teach Universalism, a doctrine of demons teaching people to not fear God &think sin is ok w God. Answer this, if there's no hell, then why the Great Judgment?
@suzeeq41 It is your ignorance to scripture that exposes you. The parable of Lazerus and the richman is about the prophecy of Isaiah and Dan 7-8. The richman is symbolic for Judea, and Lazerus is symbolic for the gentiles. We Universalists fear our Father in love as a child fears his parents. Unlike you, you fear Him because you dont want to be eternally tortured, and that is why you worship Him. Your image of God is the exact image of yourself.
Rom 1:25-27 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
2Pe 2:1-3 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of....
@TheTriumph777 Dont forget verse 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
A good fabricated story is the doctrine of hell, and all those who say they were there and back.The hell doctrine repulses potential believers and creates counterfeit believers who worship God only to avoid hell.
THE LORD JESUS SHALL BE REVEALED FROM HEAVEN WITH HIS MIGHTY ANGELS, IN FLAMING FIRE TAKING VENGEANCE ON THEM THAT KNOW NOT GOD, AND THAT OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST: WHO SHALL BE PUNISHED WITH EVERLASTING DESTRUCTION FROM THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD, AND FROM THE GLORY OF HIS POWER..Thessalonians 1:7-9.
For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yes, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that comes shall burn them up. Mal 4:1.
@SwordofMantic 2Ti 4:2-4 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and sinner appear? 1 Pet 4:19.
That is pretty funny how you just pulled the word, touchstone out of thin air cause I do a lot of study and never have come across this word. You might want to put your nose back in the bible and read Isaiah 14 9-10.
@Wolfman037 G931 βάσανος basanos bas'-an-os Perhaps remotely from the same as G939 (through the notion of going to the bottom); a touch stone, that is, (by analogy) torture: - torment.
Would anyone mind explaining to me what the Greek word for eternity is? If hell is referred to as 'forever and ever,' what is the translation for heaven? I agree that people have rejected God because they think He will torture them in hell forever, while others follow Jesus out of fear because of the traditional view of hell.. The real question is in the end, does God get what He wants? This seems like total Calvary victory! God bless,
@Drooblemeister visit the tentmaker site and read articles on aion and aionios. There are many articles and even entire books on the subject. Aion by J.W. Hanson is one among many others. I've written some long articles on the subject as well. Gary Amirault
And not only that you don't even watch the videos you comment on - you admitted that. So what's the point in going on when you don't even do that? I will give it to those who thirst. This is a place to leave a comment and go, that's it.
Gal 1:9 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be anathema (ignored)!
FYI:Babbling off a buch of verses is not refuting. I have used exegesis, reason, and logic, with use of scripture. And on top of that I have used Greek termnalogy. You have done none of that.
Rom 8:6-9 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: FOR IT IS NOT SUBJECT TO THE LAW OF GOD, neither indeed can be.
So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Where is the word "Hell" mentioned in the orginal Hebrew&Greek manuscripts? Why is this little word "Hell" given THREE different meanings? Why is this Hebrew word "SHE'ôL" translated as Pit,Grave,HELL,GK:Hades througout the bible?? Do they all mean the same? Gen_37:35; Gen_42:38; Gen_44:29; Gen_44:31; Num_16:30; Num_16:33; Deu_32:22; 1Sa_2:6; 2Sa_22:6; 1Ki_2:6; 1Ki_2:9; Job_7:9
AHHH hell mongers. Don't have to listen to them, but we have to love them. Feels good to vent after a debate.
Ps 49:15 "But God WILL REDEEM my soul from the power of the grave [Hebrew, 'SHEOL']: for He shall receive me. Selah." The word "grave" in the King James is translated from the Hebrew word "sheol" which is translated "HELL" thirty times in the Old Testament. The translators didn't want anyone to do that everyone's soul will be "REDEEMED from sheol"
Mal 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
Psa 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell ( GRAVE ); neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
I don't believe in PURGATORY, david did not go to hell, i believe in the day of JUDGEMENT. God will come with FIRE.
THEN SHALL YE RETURN, AND DISCERN BETWEEN THE RIGHTEOUS AND THE WICKED, BETWEEN HIM THAT SERVETH GOD AND HIM THAT SERVETH HIM NOT.
FOR BEHOLD, THE DAY COMETH, THAT SHALL BURN AS AN OVEN; AND ALL THE PROUD, YEA, AND ALL THAT DO WICKEDLY, SHALL BE STUBBLE: AND THE DAY THAT COMETH SHALL BURN THEM UP, SAITH THE LORD OF HOSTS, THAT IT SHALL LEAVE THEM NEITHER ROOT NOR BRANCH.
@TheTriumph777 WHY would I even want to fight with someone who wants to do nothing but call ppl insulting names? WHY would you come one Gary's channel when you know that he has ASKED ppl not to do just what you want to do? WHY would I want to continue on with someone who I have debated FOR MONTHS now? RUN? You are full of it. BTW: I know this is another alias of 'TheTriumph'
Isa 13:9-11 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth.... And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.
cONTINUED-These people have not allowed themselves the
possibility of being wrong. A spirit of arrogance can easily overtake those who are overly
confident that truth, in its purest form, is in their custody. Trying to have a constructive 2
conversation with such a rigid, inflexible, and usually assertive person is undesirable and
often disparaging
Lrothtube 2 days ago
Mat 16:24-27 Then said Jesus..If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
eternityeverlasting1 2 days ago
@Lrothtube These people who claim they alone are right and dont seek truth have a religiouse pharisitcal spirit in them. Christ apposed such ppl. Christ if anything was far from religiouse. He spoke to our father in prayer and was answered. Christ is the true representation of what we all can expect from our Father in heaven (John 14:9). He showed compassion and love to the sinners (John 8:8-11), and apposed the selfrightiouse and accused them as vipers and hypocrites.
SwordofManticorE 1 day ago
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Mat 16:24-27 Then said Jesus..If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
TheLordOfHost1 1 day ago
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THE LORD JESUS SHALL BE REVEALED FROM HEAVEN WITH HIS MIGHTY ANGELS, IN FLAMING FIRE TAKING VENGEANCE ON THEM THAT KNOW NOT GOD, AND THAT OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST: WHO SHALL BE PUNISHED WITH EVERLASTING DESTRUCTION FROM THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD, AND FROM THE GLORY OF HIS POWER..Thessalonians 1:7-9.
For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, ye, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that comes shall burn them up. Mal 4:1.
TheTriumph777 1 day ago
@SwordofManticorE Do you know that for every scripture that talks about God's judgment, there is one that talks about God's mercy? In fact there are more scriptures on mercy than there are judgment. And we know that mercy triumphs over judgment(James 2:13). You are correct. The Bible teaches Mercy and Reconciliation not damnation and separation. God Bless You.
741rjohnson 1 day ago
@741rjohnson It always brings me Joy when I meet a UR. God bless you as well.
SwordofManticorE 22 hours ago
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Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be INSTRUCTED, ye judges of the EARTH.Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye PERISH from the way, when his warth is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him. Psa 2:10-12.
Rom 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, AND EVERY TONGUE SHALL CONFESS TO GOD.
Rom 14:12 SO THEN EVERYONE OF US SHALL GIVE ACCOUNT OF HIMSELF TO GOD.
eternityeverlasting1 12 hours ago
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Hbr 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto ALL THEM THAT "OBEY" HIM.
But after thy hardness and impenitent heart tresurest up unto thyself wrath and revelation of righteous judgment of God; who will render to every man according to his deeds:To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honor and immortalality,eternal life: But unto them are contentious, and do not OBEY the truth, but obey unrigheousness, indignation and wrath. Rom 2.
eternityeverlasting1 12 hours ago
Isa 13:9-11 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth... And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.
Wake up please!
TheTriumph777 12 hours ago
@TheTriumph777 Isaiah 19:22-25 "And the Lord shall smite Egypt:He shall smite and heal it:and they shall return even unto the Lord, and shall heal them.In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and Assyria,even a blessing in the mist of the land: Whom the Lord of host shall bless,saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hand, and Israel mine inheritance." Mercy triumphs over judgment(James 2:13). God Bless!!!
741rjohnson 11 hours ago
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@741rjohnson For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, THOU SHALT NOT KILL; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment... .And whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Mat 5:20-22.
Brother, wake up!
TheTriumph777 11 hours ago
@TheTriumph777 God's judgment-- "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha and the cities about them suffering the vengence of eternal fire." Jude 1:7 God's Mercy "And your sisters, Sodom with her daughters will return to their former state,and Samaria with her daughters will return to their former state, then you with your daughters will also return to your former state.'' Ezekiel 16:55 Mercy triumphs over judgment" James 2:13
741rjohnson 11 hours ago
@741rjohnson
"And your sisters, Sodom with her daughters will return to their former state,and Samaria with her daughters will return to their former state, then you with your daughters will also return to your former state.'' Ezekiel 16:55
Eze 16:63 That thou mayest remember, and be confounded, and never open thy mouth any more because of thy shame, when I am pacified toward thee for all that thou hast done, saith the Lord GOD.
You lose! Do not cherry pick.
eternityeverlasting1 11 hours ago
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@741rjohnson 2Pe 3:5-7 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: BUT THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH, WHICH ARE NOW, BY THE SAME WORD ARE KEPT IN STORE, RESERVED UNTO FIRE AGAINST THE DAY OF JUDGMENT AND PERDITION OF UNGODLY MEN.
I don't believe in purgatory, but i believe God is coming back with fire instead of a flood.
eternityeverlasting1 11 hours ago
@741rjohnson Psa 34:16 For the face of the LORD is against them that do evil, to cut off the remembrance of them from the earth.
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1Peter 3:12 For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.
1Timothy 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
TheTriumph777 10 hours ago
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@741rjohnson Pay attention. I come at you with the word of God only.
2Th 1:8 He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.
2Th 1:9-10 They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the majesty of his power on the day he comes to be glorified in his holy people and to be marveled at among all those who have believed. This includes you, because you believed our testimony to you.
eternityeverlasting1 9 hours ago
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@741rjohnson The Bible does not support Universalism, and i don't believe in Purgatory. The ministry of God's wrath will be poured out upon the ungodly on the day of Judgment.
Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and Gommorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven....Gen 19:24.
History will repeat itself at the end of the world.
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...And fire came down from God out of heaven, and DEVOURED THEM. Rev 20:9.
TheLordOfHost1 9 hours ago
There are two common dangerous dispositions of those who lack intellectual honesty and
authenticity: unwarranted dogmatism and indifferent apathy. The dogmatic mindset
typically comes when individuals think that they possess absolute truth without question.
This attitude that breeds false assurance is commonly displayed by those who think that
there is no benefit in reading or studying opposing viewpoints because it would be a waste of
time when one already possesses the truth.
Lrothtube 2 days ago
Rev. : 3:18 "I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see."
Howie47 2 days ago
@Howie47 Amen, finally someone who understands the fire of God!
Lrothtube 2 days ago
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Psa 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
David gives clear indication, hell means grave.
He that overcomes shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and UNBELIEVING, and the abominable, and MURDERERS, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, AND ALL LIARS, SHALL HAVE THEIR PART IN THE LAKE WHICH BURNS WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE WHICH IS THE SECOND DEATH. Rev 21:7-8.
eternityeverlasting1 2 days ago
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@Lrothtube The Bible does not support Universalism, and i don't believe in Purgatory. The ministry of God's wrath will be poured out upon the ungodly on the day of Judgment.
Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and Gommorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven....Gen 19:24.
...And fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. Rev 20:9.
History will repeat itself at the end of the world.
TheLordOfHost1 2 days ago
Spam troll.
SwordofManticorE 2 days ago
@SwordofManticorE Gal 5:18-21 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
TheTriumph777 2 days ago
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Read...Bible Threatenings Explained, why do all the "hell mongers" want to tout ,death, doom, gloom, fear, threats, destruction,fire, guile,panic,judgment, strife, division,killing,war,doom,doom,doom, the sky is falling, the sky is falling,satan, satan, satan,??? I could go on & on, where for the love of Jesus Christ is there ANY GOOD NEWS IN ANY OF THESE COMMENTS HERE???? I so tire of it, soooooooo quickly, thats not MY FATHER, thats not MY JESUS!!!!!!!!!
Lrothtube 2 days ago
I have been very dismayed by this false teaching &the Lord gave me another vision last night.I saw two prophets. One had a wooden staff like Moses,& the other had a staff, but the top was carved into the head of a fox.I saw he was a false prophet.A fox is cunning, a predator, lives underground in darkness in a hole of his own making.Universalism is Cotton Candy Christianity&has not the true milk of His Word.Tent loves to hear himself talk.If ur going to throw out scriptures of hell, why not all?
suzeeq41 4 days ago
@suzeeq41 ok, not sure if anyone can relate to these dreams, they belong to you, I just happen to find peace knowing that God is Sovereign, fire is mentioned MANY times in the bible, one being that God, IS AN ALL CONSUMING FIRE, I refuse to serve God in fear, I will walk in peace before God knowing, he is in CONTROL, & if he chooses to burn the place to the ground,,,it is His choice, but I know that God is more loving than this, I do not fear his judgments& I dont listen to others who tout fear.
Lrothtube 3 days ago
@Lrothtube Let God be true and men liars. I never believe in anyone who says he had a vision from God wether the news be good or bad. They need to show proof first from God. Remember 2Pet2:1-3.
SwordofManticorE 3 days ago
@SwordofManticorE thats what Im saying, coming at me with " Ive had a vision," I have an " "angel"....it means NOTHING to me, now if God wants to come to ME in a dream or vision thats fine, but it hasnt happened yet & Im not counting on it, so if he does it will be a surprise & it will be meant for ME, other than that I can not take someone elses "dream" interpretation to be from God, I dont even know that person.
Lrothtube 3 days ago
@Lrothtube Did you hear about the train accident yesterday in Canada?
SwordofManticorE 2 days ago
@SwordofManticorE no, ill google it
Lrothtube 2 days ago
@Lrothtube! ...I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
Let favour be shewed to the wicked, YET WILL HE NOT LEARN RIGHEOUSNESS: in the land of uprightness will he deal unjustly, and will not behold the majesty of the LORD. LORD, when thy hand is lifted up, they will not see: but they shall see, and be ashamed for their envy at the people; yea, the fire of thine enemies shall devour them. Isa 26:9-11.
Wake up!
eternityeverlasting1 2 days ago
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@eternityeverlasting1 Read...Bible Threatenings Explained, why do all the "hell mongers" want to tout ,death, doom, gloom, fear, threats, destruction,fire, guile,panic,judgment, strife, division,killing,war,doom,doom,doom, the sky is falling, the sky is falling,satan, satan, satan,??? I could go on & on, where for the love of Jesus Christ is there ANY GOOD NEWS IN ANY OF THESE COMMENTS HERE???? I so tire of it, soooooooo quickly, thats not MY FATHER, thats not MY JESUS!!!!!!!!!
Lrothtube 2 days ago
@suzeeq41 Who knows what desires are in mens hearts.
SwordofManticorE 3 days ago
@suzeeq41 If you study church history you will know that for the first 500 years it was the teaching of the Bible of Universal Salvation this is the GOOD NEWS, then moving on you will find Augustine & Constantine & others who brought in the teaching of "hell" at the counsel of Nicaea in 787ad, then you have Calvin (who actually had someone KILLED) who brought in "election" , so there happens to be 3 positions, 2 of them are FALSE doctrine, study church history, youll figure it out
Lrothtube 3 days ago
Read! Rev 21:24-27 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it. And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
eternityeverlasting1 2 days ago
@eternityeverlasting1 Read...Bible Threatenings Explained, why do all the "hell mongers" want to tout ,death, doom, gloom, fear, threats, destruction,fire, guile,panic,judgment, strife, division,killing,war,doom,doom,doom, the sky is falling, the sky is falling,satan, satan, satan,??? I could go on & on, where for the love of Jesus Christ is there ANY GOOD NEWS IN ANY OF THESE COMMENTS HERE???? I so tire of it, soooooooo quickly, thats not MY FATHER, thats not MY JESUS!!!!!!!!!
Lrothtube 2 days ago
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@Lrothtube Read...Bible Threatenings Explained, why do all the "hell mongers" want to tout ,death, doom, gloom, fear, threats, destruction,fire, guile,panic,judgment, strife, division,killing,war,doom,doom,doom, the sky is falling, the sky is falling,satan, satan, satan,??? I could go on & on, where for the love of Jesus Christ is there ANY GOOD NEWS IN ANY OF THESE COMMENTS HERE???? I so tire of it, soooooooo quickly, thats not MY FATHER, thats not MY JESUS!
Chapter and verse please!!!!
TheTriumph777 2 days ago
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here are a couple of more sites I know off the top of my head, may Jesus Christ deliver you from traditions of men & fear.
Bible-truths(.com)
Bible Threatenings Explained (google)
Kingdombiblestudies(.org)
Martin Zender(.com)
richardwaynegarganta(.com)
salvationofall(org)
Universalsalvation(.org)
I have learned so much from each of the above sites, I truly am set free in Jesus Christ, I am ecstatic about Jesus & what is life blood has done for ALL mankind on the cross, God Bles
Lrothtube 4 days ago
Rom 14:11 10.You, then, why do you judge your brother?
Or why do you look down on your brother? For
we will all stand before God’s judgment seat. 11 It is written: “`As surely as I live,’ says the
Lord, `every knee will bow before me; every
tongue will confess to God.’” 12 So then, each of us will give an account of
himself to God. 13.Therefore let us stop passing judgment on
one another. Instead, make up your mind not
to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your
brother’s way
Lrothtube 6 days ago
Carlton Pearson was in prayer for the 'lost' who had never heard of Jesus, when it was revealed to him that no one goes to hell for unbelief. He calls this revelation the gospel of Inclusion. He left the pentecostal church and became a new thought teacher. It is time to realize that God has given us the gift of eternal life. Now it is our turn to learn how to live, to learn how to serve Him by serving others. Follow Micah 6:8 God wishes for us an abundant life. Let's start living it.
k0smon 1 week ago
@tentmaker777 Hello Gary I think you accidentally addressed the wrong person.
phillip78 1 week ago
2 Timothy 4:3 I can't believe what you are doing! You have literally 'burned' the scriptures that warn of hell! You blaspheme the Holy Spirit & that is unforgiveable! Did you not hear Jesus say that it is better to pluck out an eye, etc than to have the whole body cast into hell?Have you not seen the multitude of hell-witnesses giving their testimony on utube?Somebody, somewhere 'decides' in his knowledge (lack of wisdom) that hell doesn't exist?! You hold Christ's crucifixion worthless.Repent.
suzeeq41 1 week ago
@suzeeq41 I don't hold Christ's crucifixion worthless. It is YOU who does that. I magnify the Cross stating that it is efficacious for all mankind. You should repent and offer true hope rather than a gospel which is no gospel at all.
tentmaker777 1 week ago 3
@tentmaker777 You, false prophet,turn your back on God's word by not believing the TRUTH of his gospel &/or twisting it to suit your itching ears. He will NOT be mocked.Tho He wants all to be saved He warns of hell & you in turn have been seduced into ignoring many scriptures.Read Rev 22, esp 14-22.He warns to wash one's robe & make it white, for outside the gate are unrepentant sinners. He says certain people will not enter in & warns one shouldn't take away from His Book.
suzeeq41 6 days ago
@suzeeq41 So Jesus wants all to be saved but His Father won't give Him all so He can't save them? That makes no sense. As for the gates at the end of the book, they are WIDE OPEN and He says come. And everyone WILL COME. Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess Jesus is lord to the glory of God the Father. Friend, you have such little faith, why do you doubt? Because Satan has blinded your eyes to God's power. You are glorifying satan and don't even know it. Amazing
tentmaker777 6 days ago
@tentmaker777 You launch right into changing His words, which is warned about in Rev. 22:19. Rev 22 does NOT say the gates are wide open to everyone therefore you lie.Great faith means believing His word.You reject Matt7:21."Not everyone who says Lord Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven but only he who does the will of My Father." That is a powerful warning, why do you reject His Word? You glorify satan by rejecting the truth of God's word & twisting it. I pray for you to repent.
suzeeq41 6 days ago
@suzeeq41 I lie? "God will have all men be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth." 1 Tim. 2:4 Go ahead and accuse Paul, the apostle to the nations, of lying. I'm merely quoting scripture. And while most of mankind during this time, including most of the Jews in Jesus' time did NOT come to faith, God WILL ultimately save them because the Father has given ALLLL into His hands and He will lose none.
tentmaker777 6 days ago
@tentmaker777 Again, you cling only to Paul and ignore Jesus' own words of Matt. 7:21 and Rev. 22. That is what so many people do, pick and choose, and it is so wrong! I pray for you. In fact, I verily, verily pray that you will receive a clear SIGN you are wrong. God forbid that I would tempt God, but I feel this is so important that I sincerely pray to God that you receive a very slight burn on your person in the next week. How I pray for you!! Jesus came to save us from Hell!
suzeeq41 6 days ago
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Mat 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Luk 13:23-24 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? AND HE SAID UNTO THEM, STRIVE TO ENTER IN AT THE STRAIT GATE: FOR MANY, I SAY UNTO YOU, WILL SEEK TO ENTER IN, AND SHALL NOT BE ABLE.
Word from JESUS HIMSELF.
TheLordOfHost1 5 days ago
@suzeeq41 Hell is a word not used until about 800ad, Jesus Christ did not use hell because he spoke aramiac and the orginal Holy inspired text are in Greek & Hebrew, "hell" is used in place of the word Hades, or Sheol, or Tartarus, or Gehenna, the passage you are referring to about casting body in "Hell" should really read Gehenna & Jesus was speaking to the Jews of his day and not to us! It in no threat for God to throw us in Gehenna, google it and you will see a landscaped valley!Kapeesh?
Lrothtube 1 week ago
@Lrothtube The Word speaks to US! I received the Holy Spirit & with it a revelation.An angel was sent to me & he said thus: "Behold, I saw a great dragon thrown down to earth,and he began to gather souls unto himself because he knew he had but a little time.' I was allowed to hear Satan's voice,& he even tempted me.Therefore the souls Satan is gathering to himself will belong to him. Kapeesh? The angel said, "Witness me." It is done. Christ's gospel isn't universalism.Accept His Word
suzeeq41 6 days ago
@suzeeq41 ok not sure what youre trying to say here, SATAN is gathering souls? So what you are telling me is that satan is more powerful than Jesus?hmmm? Are you saying that Adams fall is more poweful than Jesus?hmmm? Are you saying that mans "choice" is more powerful than Jesus? hmmmm? Wow, according to what youre sharing, Jesus isnt much of a Savior at all, when I thought that the bible said Jesus is the Savior of the WHOLE WORLD in several places? You seem a little "edgy" are you ok?
Lrothtube 6 days ago
@Lrothtube It is you who say satan is more powerful than God. Like Adam & Eve,people have free will to choose to follow God or follow satan. Because they chose to obey satan doesn't mean he's more powerful. Got kicked out of heaven didn't he? You don't mock me, you mock who sent me, & you mock the angel who spoke to me.
suzeeq41 5 days ago
@suzeeq41 Ok I cant relate to this "angel" that spoke to you, I have no knowledge of this. I do know what the bible says: By their fruits you shall know them, this is what Galatians 5 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law....now having said this with all due respect, I have not seen any of this in ANY of your comments here, Gary on the other hand does show these fruits
Lrothtube 5 days ago
@suzeeq41Please forgive me but you are sounding a little "off" with this "angel" thing, I can not bear witness to this occurence & it really has no bearing on my testimony, I am not shaken by threats of fear, & I really sense that this is the only thing you have used to speak to anyone here on this thread is fear & threats from what I sense are not from the Holy Spirit, especially when the word says "Come, let us REASON together, not getting that vibe from you at all, sorry :(
Lrothtube 5 days ago
@Lrothtube I get that a lot from people who don't believe in the supernatural. Have you not read of angel visitations in the bible? I remember now, you pick and choose. There is a hell, my friend, but if one trusts in Jesus, one needn't fear. I have much joy, much closeness in the Lord, many prophetic dreams visions. I am not lacking. Oh, and I love His Word and believe it. I have discernment to tell this man is a false prophet.
suzeeq41 4 days ago
@suzeeq41 Adam &Eve, please dont tell me you think that the "fall" or sin caught Jehovah off guard, you really dont think that do you? Listen God already KNEW that Adam & Eve would sin, in fact he set it up that way, sorry if you cant wrap your mind around this because they wont teach you this in the currently accepted message, but if you think just A LITTLE BIT DEEPER , you would realize that Jesus Christ was slain...from the FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, it is all set up, a Godly one at that!
Lrothtube 5 days ago
@Lrothtube
2Pe 3:5-7 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: BUT THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH, WHICH ARE NOW, BY THE SAME WORD ARE KEPT IN STORE, RESERVED UNTO FIRE AGAINST THE DAY OF JUDGMENT AND PERDITION OF UNGODLY MEN.
I don't believe in purgatory, but i believe God is coming back with fire instead of a flood.
TheLordOfHost1 5 days ago
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@Lrothtube
You cazy woman! Why would God set-up Adam & Eve inorder for them to sin?? God gave both of them a strict command, they disobeyed that order! It was satan who deceived them into thinking they would be as gods, knowing good and evil.
TheLordOfHost1 5 days ago
@TheLordOfHost1 I know that God is SOVEREIGN, its not like God did NOT KNOW that Adam & Eve would sin, he put the adversary & the tree right in the Garden, it is a divine set-up because if you know your scripture , you know that the bible says " the lamb that was slain FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD", God is in COMPLETE CONTROL, The good, the bad & the ugly, where do you think evil came from if not from God himself, GOD IS THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS, !!!
Lrothtube 4 days ago
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TheLordOfHost1 4 days ago
@TheLordOfHost1Now dont go twisting what I have said, I am not saying that God is evil, I am saying he created evil & allows evil for his purposes & glory, he is in CHARGE of the universe and that is all there is to that, some people think they make the choice about God when infact it is God who CHOOSES us! Jesus is the savior of ALL men! There is no disputing it, if people want to believe in their pagan doctrine its on them, but my Father IS SO MUCH LARGER than that, GOD IS LOVE,&flows justice
Lrothtube 4 days ago
@TheLordOfHost1 "I am the Lord, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God. I will gird you, though you have not known Me; 6That men may know from the rising to the setting of the sun That there is no one besides Me. I am the Lord, and there is no other, 7The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the Lord who does all these," (Isaiah 45:5-7).
Lrothtube 4 days ago
@TheLordOfHost1 ok listen, God created "satan" which people call the perfect angel or cheribum, well I dont believe that "satan" Adam or Eve were created perfect without flaw as some may teach, because IF this is the case how does a being go from Perfect to Imperfect? This is not possible, and if it is...well then we better watch the hell out then...BECAUSE THE PERFECT BEING IN JEHOVAH...COULD GO BELLY UP AT ANY MOMENT, based ON THIS theology or school of thought...kapeesh?
Lrothtube 4 days ago
@Lrothtube
Eze 28:14-15 ...Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, TILL INIQUITY WAS FOUND IN THEE.
HOW ART THOU FALLEN FROM HEAVEN, O LUCIFER, ( SATAN ) SON OF THE MORNING! HOW ART THOU CUT DOWN TO THE GROUND, WHICH DIDST WEAKEN THE NATIONS! Isa14:12.
It was Satan that made man fall!
TheLordOfHost1 4 days ago
@TheLordOfHost1 I am not disagreeing with the text you use here, what I am saying is that God is SOVEREIGN, all things were created by Jesus Christ, in him, for him , and to him, and that he IS IN CONTROL, he created the adversary for his OWN purposes, & glory, NOTHING that is or has ever been created is not of Jesus Christ, he has his purposes in the adversary, not to worried about it, dont believe in an eternal torture chamber somewhere, if you want to go ahead thats on you, not Jesus
Lrothtube 4 days ago
1John 3:8-10 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
God did not set Sin.
TheLordOfHost1 4 days ago
@TheLordOfHost1 Well if God is Sovereign & in charge of the whole universe...then yes, yes he did, "for this PURPOSE the Son of God was MANIFESTED" "who ever is born of God does not commit sin ( this is speaking only of JESUS) God in us the HOPE OF GLORY, God resides in us & we are sinners, Until we are raised incorruptible we will always sin, who says he has no sin is a LIAR!! Grace does not give us a license to sin, it takes away urge to sin, at least in my life, I cant speak for you
Lrothtube 4 days ago
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@Lroth
You are wrong! God gave angels and man free will. God knew the outcome of Adam & Eve's failure to comply to his will, God made provision for Jesus to be the lamb that was slain from the foundation of the world.
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; AND SHALL CAST THEM INTO A FURNACE OF FIRE: THERE SHALL BE WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH. THEN SHALL THE RIGHTEOUS SHINE FORTH..Mat 13:45-43
TheLordOfHost1 4 days ago
@Lrothtube
Romans 5 15. But the gift is not like the trespass. For if
the MANY (ALL!) died by the trespass of the one man,
how much more did God's grace and the gift that
came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ,
overflow to the MANY!(ALL!)
CHAPTER 6 WHAT SHALL WE SAY THEN?? SHALL WE CONTINUE IN SIN, THAT GRACE MAY ABOUND ?? GOD FORBID. HOW SHALL WE, THAT ARE DEAD TO SIN, LIVE ANY LONGER THEREIN??
FOR THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH; BUT THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE.
wake up!
TheTriumph777 4 days ago
@TheTriumph777 Thanks, I couldnt agree more with the text you have choosen, ALL DIE IN ADAM, ALL ARE VIVIFIED IN jESUS, where sin abounds , yes Grace much MORE abounds, hence Jesus atonement. The wages of sin is DEATH, not some eternal torture chamber somewhere, Adam=sin, death, Jesus=forgivesness, life, reconcilliation, THIS IS THE GOOD NEWS for the WHOLE WORLD, we all sin, but by the grace of God, we sin less& less& less, nothing we do, What did I need to wake up to I am a sinner saved by God
Lrothtube 4 days ago
@TheTriumph777 do you think Jesus will throw me in "hell" for not believing in "hell" LOL..LOL, I thought we need to believe in Jesus, now we have to "believe" in the eternal torture chamber somewhere? hmmmm, I must have missed that part in the Bible? Believe on the"eternal torture chamber" & though shall be saved...LOL LOL LOL Where is that scripture, tell me where to find it, Ha ha ha, Ill have to share that with my loved ones so they dont fry, cause they dont believe in Hell...LOL LOL LOL
Lrothtube 4 days ago
@Lrothtube1 John4: 18 There is no FEAR in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with PUNISHMENT. The ONE who fears is not made perfect in love.
My testimony does not consist of the FEAR of some eternal torture chamber ,, just saying that "eternal torture" seem DIABOLICAL to me and the rest of humanity, My testimony is the righteous character of a LOVING FATHER, who cares for ALL of mankind, this is why he sent his Son to the WHOLE WORLD, not PUNISHMENT, Jesus took that
Lrothtube 4 days ago
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2Pe 3:5-7 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: BUT THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH, WHICH ARE NOW, BY THE SAME WORD ARE KEPT IN STORE, RESERVED UNTO FIRE AGAINST THE DAY OF JUDGMENT AND PERDITION OF UNGODLY MEN.
I told you, i don't believe in purgatory, but i believe God is coming back with fire instead of a flood!
TheTriumph777 4 days ago
@Lrothtube
John4: 18 There is no FEAR in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with PUNISHMENT. The ONE who fears is not made perfect in love
If you love God, you will not fear the outcome.
For to be carnally minded is DEATH; but to be spiritually minded is LIFE AND PEACE.
Because the carnal mind is ENMITY AGAINST GOD: For it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be... NOW IF ANY MAN HAVE NOT THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, HE IS NONE OF HIS. Rom 8:6-9.
TheTriumph777 4 days ago
@TheTriumph777 Couldnt agree with this text more, & this is what we need to share, so men may be RELEASED from their fears, God wants men to be RELEASED from fear of him, but it is the "hell fire" preachers that INSTILL FEAR, when the bible says IT IS HIS KINDNESS THAT LEADS US TO REPENTANCE, NOT HIS THREATS, You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar, kapeesh? Or do you like the guilt trip, "pack your bags were going on a guilt trip" no thanks, been there DONE THAT
Lrothtube 4 days ago
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Act 26:16-18 I Jesus have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee; Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee, To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
TheTriumph777 4 days ago
Jam 2:10-12 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. SO SPEAK YE, AND SO DO, AS THEY THAT SHALL BE JUDGED BY THE LAW OF LIBERTY.
And the temple of God was opened in heaven, AND THERE WAS SEEN IN HIS TEMPLE THE ARK OF HIS TESTAMENT. Rev 11:19.
THE LAW OF LIBERTY IS THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.
eternityeverlasting1 4 days ago
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@TheTriumph777 John4:18 There is no FEAR in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with PUNISHMENT.The ONE who fears is not made perfect in love
My testimony does not consist of the FEAR of some eternal torture chamber ,, just saying that "eternal torture" seem DIABOLICAL to me and the rest of humanity, My testimony is the righteous character of a LOVING FATHER, who cares for ALL of mankind, this is why he sent his Son to the WHOLE WORLD, not PUNISHMENT, Jesus took that
Lrothtube 4 days ago
1John 3:7-10 Little children, LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. HE THAT COMMITTETH SIN IS OF THE DEVIL; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
It's not hard to keep the ten commandments! Ur a confused heretic.
TheTriumph777 4 days ago
@TheTriumph777 ok so now you want to keep the law? hmmm the 10 commandments? hmmm? there is a lot of danger in that, those who live by the law will die by the law even in a tittle , well you just threw Jesus under the bus by using the 10 commandments of an example of your "righteousness" ....epic Fail! Ouch! Not sure where you stand with the whole atonement grace thing, but from over here its not looking to good, poor guy, you are still in bondage, & chains, & for that I am truly sorry :(
Lrothtube 4 days ago
@TheTriumph777 I believe just what the scripture says "that he might destroy the works of the devil" I BELIEVE THAT, I believe it happened at the CROSS, I am not waiting for Jesus to do this in the future somewhere, I believe it has already happened and I am walking in that, peace , love & joy of God, what is your damage? why cant you believe the Father, why are you so "hell bent" on destruction, God isnt. by their FRUITS you shall know them
Lrothtube 4 days ago
@Lroth 1Jo 4:17-20 In this way, love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment, because in this world we are like him. There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love. 1Jo 4:20 If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.
TheTriumph777 4 days ago
@TheTriumph777 Ok this is just random, not sure what point you are even trying to make, Are you trying to say that I dont love my brother? You dont even know me, I feel secure that I have not commented one UNLOVING thing. I dont know, as far as judgment goes, Gods judgments are meant for correction & restoration, so not quite sure where you are going with that either? Random text ? Well anyways I sent you a private message, if you need resources let me know, other than that I dont want to argue
Lrothtube 4 days ago
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How can i pm you? You have blocked all my channels, just because i'me sending you nothing but scriptures. I will not read your pm's until you unblock me.
eternityeverlasting1 4 days ago
@eternityeverlasting1 ok, um, youre being weird,like a troll, are we saying this kind of behavior is of Jesus Christ or God the Father, Im not feelin it!!! Youre acting like a creep!
Lrothtube 4 days ago
@Lrothtube Sister eternityeverlasting and triump777 is the same person. He or she is a religiouse pharisee. I try to avoid it if possible
SwordofManticorE 4 days ago
@SwordofManticorE You really are a knight in shining armor LOL, yes, & thank you, I figured it out when he said that I had just pm'd him & I only wrote a personal message to "triump"... Not trying to be rude, but guy is just really creepy, what is that all about? Trolling , creepin? Oh well, I will not waste precious time with that guy, on to the next battle so to speak, hey did you see my advatar?.....we match...God Bless you... off to work, see you around!!
Lrothtube 4 days ago
@Lrothtube My wife calls me her Knight, or as she says in German Ritter. Anyone who calls universal salvation a vile demonic teaching has exposed the hidden desires in their heart. they do not share the same desires as our father. We must ask our Father to humble them (merciful) to bring them to the truth God willing.
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@Lrothtube Its back
SwordofManticorE 4 days ago
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Universalism is false! Jesus opened away of salvation on the cross. In Act 26:16-18 Jesus had died and gone to heaven, but Jesus then made a visit to paul who was destroying the followers of Christ. Jesus commanded paul to now carry the gospel.
..Unto whom now I send thee, To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
TheLordOfHost1 4 days ago
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1John 3:13-15 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you. We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: AND YE KNOW THAT NO MURDERER HATH ETERNAL LIFE ABIDING IN HIM.
If someone wiped out your whole family, you came home and found everyone slaughtered, you will soon change your tune about Universalism, yet the murder rate is so high in your country.
eternityeverlasting1 4 days ago
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They called Jesus all the names under the sun! Why am i weird! why am i a creep! It's only the word of God i bring! There is a demon in you!
eternityeverlasting1 4 days ago
Matthew 15:13 He replied, "Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots." Amen, Lord Jesus, may it be done according to Your will. Universalism is a noxious weed that twists the scriptures to suit a 'pleasure-loving' culture seeking a harlot church.The Word of the Lord endures forever. Tent,read Ezekiel about the blood that will be on your head for leading these sheep away from the Truth. Translations are fine, but you re-translate, sadly. God have mercy.
suzeeq41 4 days ago
@suzeeq41 What God desires, you call a noxious weed.
SwordofManticorE 2 days ago
@SwordofManticorE! For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, THOU SHALT NOT KILL; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment... ..And whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Mat 5:20-22.
eternityeverlasting1 2 days ago
@eternityeverlasting1 Go away you who brings darkness to people. I have no interest in anything you have to say.
SwordofManticorE 2 days ago
Isa 34:1-3 Swordo! Come near, ye nations, to hear; and hearken, ye people: let the earth hear, and all that is therein; the world, and all things that come forth out of it. For the indignation of the LORD is upon all nations, and his fury upon all their armies: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter. Isa 34:3 Their slain also shall be cast out, and their stink shall come up out of their carcases, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood
eternityeverlasting1 2 days ago
@eternityeverlasting1 Isaiah 25:7-8 "And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people,and the vail that is spread over over all nations. He will swallow up death in victory;and the Lord God will wipe away tears from off all faces;and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth:and the Lord hath spoken it."
741rjohnson 1 day ago
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Isa 34:4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, AND THE HEAVEN SHALL BE ROLLED TOGETHER AS A SCROLL: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling from the fig tree.
Rev 6:14-17 AND THE HEAVEN DEPARTED AS A SCROLL when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
FOR THE GREAT DAY OF HIS WRATH IS COME; AND WHO SHALL BE ABLE TO STAND.
eternityeverlasting1 2 days ago
@SwordofManticorE DO NOT CALL THE WORD OF THE LORD, DARKNESS! YOU ARE IN DARKNESS! DEMONS CONTROL YOU!
Gal 6:7 BE NOT DECEIVED; GOD IS NOT MOCKED: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
Gal 6:9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
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TheTriumph777 2 days ago
@eternityeverlasting1 Psalm 66:3-4 "Say unto God how terrible art thou in thy works! Through the greatness of thy power shall thine enemies submit themselves to thee. All the earth shall worship thee,and shall sing unto thee; they shall sing unto thy name.''
741rjohnson 1 day ago
@eternityeverlasting1 Psalm 145:8-10 "The Lord is gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy. The Lord is good to all:and his tender mercies are over all his works. All thy works shall praise thee, O Lord; and thy saints shall bless thee.''
741rjohnson 1 day ago
@eternity "For His anger endureth but a moment(Psalm 30:5)'' but-"His mercy endureth forever(Psalm 118:29;Psalm 136:1-26).''God's judgment "And whosoever was not written in the book of life was {cast} into the lake of fire(Revelation 20:15).''God's mercy "For the Lord will not {cast} off forever:But though he cause grief yet he will have compassion according to the multitude of his mercies.For he does not afflict willingly nor grieve the children of men Lamentations 3:31,33
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741rjohnson 1 day ago
@eternityeverlasting1 James 2:13 "For judgment will be merciless to one who has shown no mercy; mercy triumphs over judgment.' For every scripture that talks about God's judgment, you will find a scripture that talks about God's Mercy. Judgment does not get the final word, Mercy does. Mercy triumphs over judgment.
741rjohnson 1 day ago
@eternityeverlasting1 God's judgment "And {whosoever was} not found written in the book of life was cast into the {lake of fire}.'Revelation 20:15. God's mercy "And {whosoever will}, let him take the {water of life} freely.'' Revelation 22:17
741rjohnson 1 day ago
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Act 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.
Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall come forth: THEY THAT DONE GOOD, UNTO THE RESURECTION OF LIFE; AND THEY THAT HAVE DONE EVIL, UNTO THE RESURRECTION OF DAMNATION. Jhn 5:28-29.
...Some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.. Dan 12:2-3.
Universalism is false!
eternityeverlasting1 12 hours ago
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Mat 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Luk 13:23-24 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? AND HE SAID UNTO THEM, STRIVE TO ENTER IN AT THE STRAIT GATE: FOR MANY, I SAY UNTO YOU, WILL SEEK TO ENTER IN, AND SHALL NOT BE ABLE.
Words from JESUS HIMSELF.
eternityeverlasting1 12 hours ago
@suzeeq41 Satan seems to be a little to powerful in your life, Father God & Jesus Christ are a God of peace, maybe do a strong word search on this, 1 John 4:18, perfect love cast out all fear, dont be so fearful, God is Sovereign, he is in CONTROL, he has this, no worries, relax, go to tentmakers website, lots of Great teaching there, this is just ONE site that is disputing the doctrine of demons of "hell fire/eternal torture chamber". or hopebeyondhell(,com) is good, relax, Jesus HAS THIS!!
Lrothtube 6 days ago
@Lrothtube here are a couple of more sites I know off the top of my head, may Jesus Christ deliver you from traditions of men & fear.
Bible-truths(.com)
Bible Threatenings Explained (google)
Kingdombiblestudies(.org)
Martin Zender(.com)
richardwaynegarganta(.com)
salvationofall(org)
Universalsalvation(.org)
I have learned so much from each of the above sites, I truly am set free in Jesus Christ, I am ecstatic about Jesus & what is life blood has done for ALL mankind on the cross, God Bles
Lrothtube 6 days ago
@Lrothtube I dont fear,I'm merely overturning tables here.Sadly, people seek harlot churches & pay them to make them feel good,& this has got to be the worst.Jesus said His Father would uproot every plant not planted by Him.Universlism is a noxious weed that may create unrepentant sinners.Satan truly is roaming as an 'angel of light'. I fear for tentmakers soul & pray for the scales to be removed from his eyes to the Truth of Jesus' teaching. Lazarus & the rich man in hell is clear.
suzeeq41 5 days ago
@suzeeq41 So every beggar goes to abrahams busom according to you? Universal salvation is just as universal as the fall of man by Adam, and another thing. God desires the universal salvation of all men and the rightiouse will get what they desire. As for your desires, it is more than obviouse. Christ taught about a person like you. He spoke about the older brother in the parable of the prodical son who refused to except his sinning brother back home. thats you in a nutshell.
SwordofManticorE 5 days ago
@suzeeq41 Universal SALVATION IS BASED ON 100'S OF SCRIPTURES, It is unfortunate that you do not understand that Jesus speaking of Lazarus & rich man IS A PARABLE, a story, an analogy, & it isnt even directed AT US, he was speaking to the Pharisees at the time, because the Jews WERE GETTING READY TO LOOSE THE MANTLE OF GOD, & the Gentiles would be grafted in their place, you can say you dont have fear, but I am sorry from what your comments say here it is the only thing you convey, not of Jesus
Lrothtube 5 days ago
“Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the WORLD. (Jn 1:29)
and he -- he is a propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but also for the WHOLE WORLD 1Jn 2:2
So, then, as through one offence TO ALL MEN it is to condemnation, so also through one declaration of 'Righteous' it is TO ALL MEN to justification of life; Romans 5:18
I dont sense love of Jesus in your comments, I sense fear, Im not sure why you share death & destruction but it is not of Jesus Christ!
Lrothtube 5 days ago
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@suzeeq41 here are a couple of more sites I know off the top of my head, may Jesus Christ deliver you from traditions of men & fear.
Bible-truths(.com)
Bible Threatenings Explained (google)
Kingdombiblestudies(.org)
Martin Zender(.com)
richardwaynegarganta(.com)
salvationofall(org)
Universalsalvation(.org)
I have learned so much from each of the above sites, I truly am set free in Jesus Christ, I am ecstatic about Jesus & what HIS life blood has done for ALL mankind on the cross, God Bless
Lrothtube 4 days ago
@suzeeq41 Christ who warned the Jews about Gehenna spoke about it only to the Jews, James did as well, but the apostel Paul who taught us all what our heavnly Father wanted us to know (Acts 20:27) never once taught the gentiles about Gehenna. Why is that? I know why, I just want to hear it from a hell believer.
SwordofManticorE 1 week ago
@SwordofManticorE You say you accept only Paul's teaching, thereby picking verses w/itching ears.I believe in Hell because Jesus said there was a hell. Period.You don't abide in the Word from His very own mouth? Your God is like a school principal who says "oh, boys will be boys" & never punish.Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. Ur God is a wimp.The God who loves me is just, saying He will give everyone their reward-Rev22:11-12. He says be holy. Follow the Word NOT FLESH
suzeeq41 6 days ago
@suzeeq41 It is your ears that itch. If you combine a carnal minded view of scripture with fear, self rightiouse blind ego, a hidden desire for vengence and spark the religiouse engine with a pharisitical spirit. You get a determend believer of hell. I gave you a question that is impossible for a deterend believer of a hell to answer. Why Paul never taught the gentiles about Gehenna, even though he taught us all what our heavenly Father wants us to know.
SwordofManticorE 6 days ago
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Mat 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Luk 13:23-24 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? AND HE SAID UNTO THEM, STRIVE TO ENTER IN AT THE STRAIT GATE: FOR MANY, I SAY UNTO YOU, WILL SEEK TO ENTER IN, AND SHALL NOT BE ABLE.
Words from JESUS HIMSELF.
TheLordOfHost1 5 days ago
@SwordofManticorE You throw stones not knowing me at all. I pray EACH DAY for the conversion of sinners.Jesus taught of hell thru parable of Lazarus & the rich man, which you reject.You reject His Words from His very own mouth. Paul isn't the Lord.If I speak not, God will hold me accountable. Matt 7:21.Jesus did not teach Universalism, a doctrine of demons teaching people to not fear God &think sin is ok w God. Answer this, if there's no hell, then why the Great Judgment?
suzeeq41 5 days ago
@suzeeq41 It is your ignorance to scripture that exposes you. The parable of Lazerus and the richman is about the prophecy of Isaiah and Dan 7-8. The richman is symbolic for Judea, and Lazerus is symbolic for the gentiles. We Universalists fear our Father in love as a child fears his parents. Unlike you, you fear Him because you dont want to be eternally tortured, and that is why you worship Him. Your image of God is the exact image of yourself.
SwordofManticorE 5 days ago
Rom 1:25-27 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
TheLordOfHost1 5 days ago
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2Pe 2:1-3 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of....
TheTriumph777 4 days ago
@TheTriumph777 Dont forget verse 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
A good fabricated story is the doctrine of hell, and all those who say they were there and back.The hell doctrine repulses potential believers and creates counterfeit believers who worship God only to avoid hell.
SwordofManticorE 4 days ago
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THE LORD JESUS SHALL BE REVEALED FROM HEAVEN WITH HIS MIGHTY ANGELS, IN FLAMING FIRE TAKING VENGEANCE ON THEM THAT KNOW NOT GOD, AND THAT OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST: WHO SHALL BE PUNISHED WITH EVERLASTING DESTRUCTION FROM THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD, AND FROM THE GLORY OF HIS POWER..Thessalonians 1:7-9.
For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yes, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that comes shall burn them up. Mal 4:1.
TheLordOfHost1 4 days ago
@SwordofMantic 2Ti 4:2-4 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and sinner appear? 1 Pet 4:19.
You both are lost!
eternityeverlasting1 4 days ago
Now you have.
phillip78 4 weeks ago
That is pretty funny how you just pulled the word, touchstone out of thin air cause I do a lot of study and never have come across this word. You might want to put your nose back in the bible and read Isaiah 14 9-10.
Wolfman037 4 weeks ago
@Wolfman037 G931 βάσανος basanos bas'-an-os Perhaps remotely from the same as G939 (through the notion of going to the bottom); a touch stone, that is, (by analogy) torture: - torment.
phillip78 4 weeks ago
.God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind" 2Timothy 1:7.
MrPaulryan76 1 month ago
Would anyone mind explaining to me what the Greek word for eternity is? If hell is referred to as 'forever and ever,' what is the translation for heaven? I agree that people have rejected God because they think He will torture them in hell forever, while others follow Jesus out of fear because of the traditional view of hell.. The real question is in the end, does God get what He wants? This seems like total Calvary victory! God bless,
Drooblemeister 3 months ago
@Drooblemeister visit the tentmaker site and read articles on aion and aionios. There are many articles and even entire books on the subject. Aion by J.W. Hanson is one among many others. I've written some long articles on the subject as well. Gary Amirault
tentmaker777 3 months ago
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Touchstone is found no where in scripture.
TheLordOfHost1 1 month ago
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And not only that you don't even watch the videos you comment on - you admitted that. So what's the point in going on when you don't even do that? I will give it to those who thirst. This is a place to leave a comment and go, that's it.
phillip78 3 months ago
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*alias of 'thefurthertruth'
phillip78 3 months ago
Gal 1:9 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be anathema (ignored)!
phillip78 3 months ago
TRUE WORDS CONTINUE TO TELL GOD"S TRUTH!
knarflehcar 5 months ago
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FYI:Babbling off a buch of verses is not refuting. I have used exegesis, reason, and logic, with use of scripture. And on top of that I have used Greek termnalogy. You have done none of that.
I'm out
phillip78 5 months ago
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1Co 14:38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
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Rom 8:6-9 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: FOR IT IS NOT SUBJECT TO THE LAW OF GOD, neither indeed can be.
So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
TheFurthertruth 3 months ago
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Where is the word "Hell" mentioned in the orginal Hebrew&Greek manuscripts? Why is this little word "Hell" given THREE different meanings? Why is this Hebrew word "SHE'ôL" translated as Pit,Grave,HELL,GK:Hades througout the bible?? Do they all mean the same? Gen_37:35; Gen_42:38; Gen_44:29; Gen_44:31; Num_16:30; Num_16:33; Deu_32:22; 1Sa_2:6; 2Sa_22:6; 1Ki_2:6; 1Ki_2:9; Job_7:9
AHHH hell mongers. Don't have to listen to them, but we have to love them. Feels good to vent after a debate.
PEACE
phillip78 5 months ago
Ps 49:15 "But God WILL REDEEM my soul from the power of the grave [Hebrew, 'SHEOL']: for He shall receive me. Selah." The word "grave" in the King James is translated from the Hebrew word "sheol" which is translated "HELL" thirty times in the Old Testament. The translators didn't want anyone to do that everyone's soul will be "REDEEMED from sheol"
phillip78 5 months ago
@phillip78 Good point.
tentmaker777 5 months ago
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Mal 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
Psa 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell ( GRAVE ); neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
I don't believe in PURGATORY, david did not go to hell, i believe in the day of JUDGEMENT. God will come with FIRE.
TheTriumph777 5 months ago
THEN SHALL YE RETURN, AND DISCERN BETWEEN THE RIGHTEOUS AND THE WICKED, BETWEEN HIM THAT SERVETH GOD AND HIM THAT SERVETH HIM NOT.
FOR BEHOLD, THE DAY COMETH, THAT SHALL BURN AS AN OVEN; AND ALL THE PROUD, YEA, AND ALL THAT DO WICKEDLY, SHALL BE STUBBLE: AND THE DAY THAT COMETH SHALL BURN THEM UP, SAITH THE LORD OF HOSTS, THAT IT SHALL LEAVE THEM NEITHER ROOT NOR BRANCH.
MALACHI 3:18.
Debate me phillip! Why run off all the time ? You are an agent of Satan, you are out to deiceve people.
TheTriumph777 3 months ago
@TheTriumph777 WHY would I even want to fight with someone who wants to do nothing but call ppl insulting names? WHY would you come one Gary's channel when you know that he has ASKED ppl not to do just what you want to do? WHY would I want to continue on with someone who I have debated FOR MONTHS now? RUN? You are full of it. BTW: I know this is another alias of 'TheTriumph'
phillip78 3 months ago
Isa 13:9-11 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth.... And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.
TheTriumph777 3 months ago