FATHER STAN _ Potugal 1

[ohsnap31]

If someone wanted to do something like this at a funeral for their loved one, the RCC would never allow it. 

[humanrightslawyer]

God bless you and Fr Stan

[angiedied]

Father Stan is coming to St. Mary in Williamston, MI on June 6, 2009!

[Carminhoo]

:) God bless

[Carminhoo]

and this is one of thoses in thanks giving part of the mass, and father stan went to the homily that he gave and made a song of it, Mass is holy, sure it is, but no one is playing here with it, God its love and there are so many ways to love him back, i particulary find a very good way to pray when i sing, but wee are all diferent and God loves us the way we are and who we are.

[kdurston1]

I agree that there is difference in the number of songs, even dance, depending on the cultural relevance. However, there is NO tradition in the Church of singing homilies or sermons. i'm glad you sing your prayers, so do i on occasion,

[kdurston1]

but i'm bot a priest bound by ecclesiastical obedience to the ordinances of the execution of the Mass. and God does not love us for who we are, but in spite of who we are. that is the glory of grace. i don't doubt fr. was sincere in his act, but it's the breach of solemnity that is at issue. if this was before mass, or after, it wouldn't be a problem. but is in place of a homily.

[Carminhoo]

Im sorry if i dint make my self clear, Fr. Stan made a homily and there was a choir who was goinf to sing after His homily, but on this mass as the priest is a singer he singed the thanks giving song. So, i do understand what you say about this issue, but in my country we sing in this part of the mass all the time, is quite normal and he helps to focus on the momment that it is (after communion)

[kdurston1]

i'll take you word for it :)

Pax et bonum!

[ohsnap31]

@kdurston1

I am an atheist but I certainly follow your logic here. The church puts its blinders on when money is at stake. He is a rock star and brings in lots of cash. Jesus would be horrified that this is the criteria used by the church to justify its position.

[Carminhoo]

im sorry kdurston that you did lost respect for Father Stan... i dont know there but in Portugal we sing in masses, like 8 or more musics per mass,

[kdurston1]

I just lost so much respect for this guy... it's one thing to use music as evagelization tool, it's another disrupt the seriousness and solemn nature of the holy sacrifice of the mass with a solo performance... no matter how well intentioned. this is no reall different from a clown mass here :(

[wjweigand]

kdruston1, you say to follow the bishops???? well, those bishops of the Novus DisOrdo religion accept and promote this kind of nonsense, so you might think this through a little before you condemn it.

[kdurston1]

i disagree. there is no evidence the local bishop approved this. just as my bishop had no idea my parish priest was bringing up recycling every homily, no matter how irelivant, until i told him. then it stopped. i believe much of the "spirit of vatican II" spread so quickly because none talked to their bishops about abuses. it is a hard case to make that pre vatican II bishops where all suddenly apostate. there was a sense of unquestioning obedience that Pius XII adressed that helped the crisis

[kdurston1]

that is to say, the laity trusted the priests too much. as a parent one understands that one cannot know all the children are doing unless it is told. it is the same with bishops. i'm curious, are you of the dimond bros. ilk or the john lane school of sedevacantism?

[wjweigand]

Judas Priest maybe.... Roman Catholic Priest, um.. no thanks.

[wjweigand]

You are correct in one thing, sedevacantist is a slightly incorrect term. The chair is invalidly occupied by a apostate who teaches that all religions are guided by the holy spirit. This is called indifferentism and was already condemned by true Popes. He also recognizes the leaders of the Anglican, Lutheran and Eastern Schismatic groups as leaders of the Christian Church, even though they don't accept Papal Primacy. I do accept Papal Primacy of Catholic Popes who do not teach heresy.

[wjweigand]

Have you ever read the Syllibus of Errors?

[wjweigand]

? So...... Are you saying that Pius IX was wrong?

[wjweigand]

"Then, there came Hitler...an extremist, who manipulated the language used in such texts, to make it sound as if the Church would approve of his atrocities" Now you're blaming Pope Pius IX 's words for Hitler? WOW... just amazing!

[wjweigand]

The authority of Christ to deny religious freedom based on the logic that only the one religion established by God can be true has nothing to do with the humanistic error of Hitler that one race could be superior to another. Hitler, like the post vatican II popes, do not believe in that divinely revealed doctrine. The gates of hell (heretics including those userping power within the church hierarchy) can not prevail against this or any doctrine of Catholicism.

[wjweigand]

Matthew 10:33- But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny before my Father who is in heaven.

[wjweigand]

We are Catholics, yes we know the Gospel of Jesus Christ, same as Catholics have always known the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

[kdurston1]

sedevacantists are schismatics. they defy the Holy Spirits power over the Church. that is the pre suppositional fallacy of that camp. If Christ is 100% invested in the Catholic Church, then he would never allow such apostacy. If one denies this, they are the same as a muslim, JW or Mormon that beleives God would lie to and abandon his people.

[wjweigand]

Read up on the heresy of Modernism and get back with me on that. Thanks.

[kdurston1]

i have... and the message that rings out clear is, obey the divine authority of Holy Mother Church! anything that brings one in conflict with one's Catholic duty to submission to the magistarium is Satanic. it's just like Medjugorje. we are to obey our bishops as Christ himself, and his Presbyters as his apostles. At least that is what St. Ignatius of Antioch said. But what does he know? He was only taught by the blessed Apostles themselves...

[wjweigand]

I agree, and as such, I will not follow heretics even if they want to dress up like Priests or Bishops or even Popes.

[wjweigand]

Where have I said anything challenging the infallibilty of a true Pope?

[Twirretwarre]

Soooo wonderful! Roeleke

[repentandbebaptized]

yeah wow that was amazing!!!