Massive 93 plate Giant Hydrogen Dry cell

[jcglessner]

Very impressive to say the least. I've been messing with HHO dry cells for a very short time now, but what I have personally discovered so far is that unlike the wet cells where more amps = higher output is that the 2 dry cells I've built so far I have better results trying to stay between 15 and 20 amps and regulating the actual input voltage up. I'm sure I'll spend the next day or two looking at more of your stuff and I hope the rest are as good as this video. Thank you for shooting and letti

[Zundwig]

Very NICE!!! With just what you made in this video......is this enough to get a car running and driving on just this dry cell?

[delvis11]

@Zundwig never tried it but it would be a great test

[handyman19602008]

I have wha may be a dumb question. What would happen if you used a Frequency generator. Instead of 12 vdc. In a HHO systom?

[Bubblytubebob]

Why don't you separate the hydrogen and the oxygen once you've cracked the water . Isn't hydrogen mixed with oxygen explosive like dynamite ? Couldn't you store twice as much energy by only collecting the Hydrogen ? Isn't that an enormous waste of surface area by having a 1" wide gasket around the perimeter? Why are neutral plates needed and what material are they made of ? Why do you call it a dry cell and it's still filled with liquid ? Please explain.

[stevodieseltech]

i LOVE IT. Keep up the outsainding work. good job. bad ass shit man. i want one. mybe in time for my diesel truck. awsome stuff once agen.

[johnwarren35]

do you scuff your plates

[delvis11]

@johnwarren35 I didn't in this build but It is a good idea to do so.

[phantasm48]

I probably screwed up my math, but that's like 1255 square feet of surface area, wow, just WOW!

[patricksab]

how much did that cost? great project!!!

[delvis11]

@patricksab this cell cost me about $1500

[verhaegenconstruct]

very good :))

[Jay12341235]

doesn't copper paint stop erosion?

[manoftnuva]

Have you installed the camera on your helmet ? =) By the way, good&informative video! Thx!

[Willbyron75]

YOU NEED TO FIND A DIFFERANT METAL STAINLESS is 15 to 20 % Hex Chromeium 6 this what makes it stainless, Personaly I spent way to much money on this and am now sick most of the time, so I have throwen in the towl on HHO untill I can see a better way

[delvis11]

thank you for the info. im really going to look into this. im buying several of these hex6 test kits.

[dacoffee2222]

ive done same thing i know it works and all but its expensive if no-one believes me ask ppl been trying to get it right cos first time it isnt a huge success. mine works but wires getting too hot. stainless is wrong its water is dangerous

[RupertsCrystals]

The only metals I know of that will not degrade significantly during the process are Stainless Steel, Platinum and Gold. Way too expensive.

The only other way he could do it is with a "safe" metal that will need replacing regularly. Copper or something. But that would mean too much maintenance.

BTW does this Hex Chromium 6 leach out of SS in things like cooking utensils?

[delvis11]

I havent ordered the hex kit yet but it's something i need to do. I am being a lot more careful now!

[russ25052]

What about nickel? There is a company that has made nickel foam.

[delvis11]

yah im thinking about getting some plates nickel coated. man too many projects. I wish i had more time and money!

[ioan21121221]

what about lead? i dont think that would degrade, but dont know the cost. i have some bits of lead from our old pipes. i might use em in my cell

[delvis11]

Im not sure about lead or what it will do but if you ask HHOPWR the same question i think he has do a little work with it.

[Willbyron75]

Put This is YOUTUBE search

"Myth or Truth, is Hexavalent Chromium in the Electrolyte"

[delvis11]

thank you very much for this information. what do you know alot about it? If i use calcium carbonate as an electrolyte will it leach hex 6? Is there no way around it? do i have to use a different type of steel? what do you know about using sugar in the waste water? Thx

[Willbyron75]

You need to google Hexavalent Chromium and read read I spent years working on HHO and created alot of waste before I found out about Hex and I am sure it is the reason I have developed respiratory problems that may now lead to cancer "BECARE FULL"

[Willbyron75]

Warning Hexavalent chromium

[delvis11]

I put sugar in all my wastes before i dispose of them.

[Willbyron75]

Hexavalent Chromium VI compounds are highly toxic. Breathing in chromium (VI) compounds can damage and irritate your nose, throat, lungs, stomach and intestines, kidney and liver damage & have adverse effects on the respiratory and the immune systems and can cause cancer

[Willbyron75]

Putting Sugar on Hex Chromium would have no affect, I am a stainless welder & I know the dangers of Hex 6, you are breaking down the stainless steel sheets 15 to 20% of the sheet is Hex chrome this stuff takes 20 30 years to brake down to safe levels, Free fuel ? there is a big cost to the environment & your health !

[delvis11]

how can i test for the presents of hex 6?

[HHO4ALL]

You are the man!!!

That thing is awesome, but where would you put it?

Maybe you should hook it up to a Variac and see what it can do.

Nice job, keep up the good work!

[delvis11]

I have noi plans of putting this in anything. but i think home heating could be cool.

I have the unit configured for 240v right now and will be posting a new video soon.

[wh333t]

What exactly is a dry cell and why is it better?

[delvis11]

dry cells are more efficient than wet cells. which means you can get more hho with less amperage.

[Youtop1155]

I think it take high AMP and give you low bubble

no need more plates

for what you use this cell

please press reply to answer

[delvis11]

yes it uses high amperage. the mre plates the better, :)

[hhoguru232004]

I think it would be a good sales and demo cell. Sounds like you have the right idea. I suspect with high voltage it would make a super nice torch as well.

[OriginalUncleNemo]

Great Job! Really nice work. I would love to see the LPM you get at 20 amps. I can't imagine what you could do with even 70 amps. Is this just for playing with, or making a welding torch?

[delvis11]

im going to use this cell for demonstrations purposes at trade shows and HHO events. it's just for having fun. at one point i will probably hook a torch to it.

[jerktrucker]

If you need more power make you're own transformer.

120v(AC) x 15A = 1800w

1800w / 12v = 150A(DC)

[hhoguru232004]

By my calculations 81 plates would be the best setup the center plate would have no holes this is an advanced boyce desighn which is not used much yet or well known but will divide cell and increase efficency. Adjust filling accordingly. If people knew I supect they would Do. Install PVC pipe in gas evacuation hole as well. Push it too the limit delvis good job on your desighn. Useing 2-4 full wave bridge rectifier will also increase production on the cell.

[hhoguru232004]

Anything less that 18 guage will warp over time. Use stainless washers instead of all those bolts if done correctley it will stop overcompression of the gaskets and plates when tightening plus the washers act like small heat fins. Cut a length of PVC pipe fit to the bottom hole. As you assemble the cell drill holes in the pvc or you can slot it to eliminate the majority of your curent leakage.Use pump to autofill cell. machines like conveyors yield nice large variacs for ten dollars used.

[jab0805]

can't wait to see the potential realized with this monster. Good luck.

[hhoguru232004]

take it apart crosshatch plates for production increase per boyce instructions. your gas outlet holes need to be 1/2 inch with this size cell. It's time to get a variac and rectify AC to DC time to take that leap if you want to see the real potential Crosshatching and plate prep can yield up too 38 percent production increase. Never use tap water. never touch steel without gloves oil in you hands ruins steel.you'll need a pump and a larger resevior with 1/2 inch fittings 14 LPM+ if done correct!

[delvis11]

i do have a variac i want to get but the money is tight right now. thanks for the heads up but im aware of everything you commented on.

[eliminategas]

Better get a forklift.

[delvis11]

also to clean away anything on the plates

[higherpoweredh2o]

Gotta say scarecrows machine is hard to beat. I think you may need to get gas out of the center plates like he has. I maxed 3 21 plate cells out at over 250a for 21.5lpm on my rig ( not the bench) Its pretty usless with the stock ecu right now but is sure is fun. My diesel is being set up with 6 21 plates. I am shooting for 50 lpm with exhaust powered alternators. My concern is safety. 20 lpm is pushing it 50 is insane. All very fun though. gotta blow stuff up to learn.

[delvis11]

I admire your work and can wait to see what you come up with.

[SmartScarecrow]

best guess I can make is that if you use a pump, you can get away with a 90ish plate stack without the center feed/tap ... but if you want to do it with convection, a feed/tap separating every 50ish plates seems to work best ... so your 31 plates per group is good, but it would help flow in and out if you feed fluid in and exhausted gas out at those separations ... but I am sure you will figure something out and you may come up with something better than what I ended up with ...

[SmartScarecrow]

I never tried a 9x9 form factor.

I did try a 12x12 form factor a few years back and ran into a problem with the electrical connections.

Due to the poor conductivity of SS, large area furthest from where I had connected to the plate seemed to be "dead". No patina formed there.

The way I fixed it was to make the electrical connections at all 4 corners of my powered plates. That worked.

Later I decided that it was just more practical to go to the smaller 8x8 plate. Made life simpler.

[delvis11]

I did think of that. I took a measurement of voltage at the top of the plate and compared it to the bottom. they measured exactly the same. i do plan on tearing this down and checking the plates.

[SmartScarecrow]

the patina left on the positive plates will tell the tale once she has had a good work out ... let her run overnight should do it it ... 10-12 hours of run time and the pasterns should form so you can see how the electricity is flowing through ... those pattern say a lot about how your device is working ...

[aquapulsefuel]

check out my first video for a fix to the electrical problem you had. i have not test it yet but i am sure it will be a positive result!

[colortech]

i have a generator on my 95 f350 gas burner truck. do i need a map enhancer? also what about a PWM? would any of these help me?

Thanx Troy

[SmartScarecrow]

sweeeeeet ... welcome to my world ... I have been thinking about putting mine on casters ...

that is a lot of steel for a 12v setup ... to get anywhere near max output from your beast, you are going to have to hit it with 300 to 350 amps ... but if you find a couple good golf cart batteries and some heavy duty wire, that puppy should be able to belch out 10-15 lpm without any problem ... on a good day, you might see 30 lpm ... 50 lpm is out there a bit yet ...

[rpierini]

That's nuts!

Maybe you should make a HHO gas welder.

[Gforce1956]

Awsome, so what are planning on doing/learning with this? We can see if 9X9 is exceeding the surface area efficiency. I am finding back pressure on the output has an impact. Maybe because it lowers the liquid level in smaller cells. Can't wait till the next vid.

[delvis11]

initially i was getting about 73% efficiency to Faraday until my amp meter started acting a little weird. i have ordered a new one and wont be doing anything with this cell until i get it. i am thinking about rebuilding this it work with my house power. i am especially worried about flow problems also. nothing to report at 80amps. still flows well. i do have a .9 amp pump ordered for this in case it needs it at higher amperage. my aim is to be top dog on production. :)

[SmartScarecrow]

do I hear challenge ??? hehehe ... I could show you what 20 lpm looks like this weekend ... how soon will you be able to beat that mark ??? want to know how much time I got to do a few mods on mine so I can show you up ... gonna have to get me a 240vAC run to play this one out ... this could be fun !!!

[delvis11]

we are thinking a like. im thinking about rebuilding it to run house voltage through it. it could be a fun challenge. i can only get about 5.5 lpm with my power supply right now.

[SmartScarecrow]

I guess I should warn you about one thing I have found ... my hastily built PVC plumbing part bubblers are not holding up at all when they take a hit from some of my more ridiculous flow volumes ... delivery systems that worked great at 10 lpm tend to disintegrate when you run 15-20 lpm through them ... at the flow volumes you are about to play with, a flash back is a little scary ...

[delvis11]

Yah i have thought about that. it's just damn dangerous. i afraid to even test for flashbacks at 10 lpm.

[u2btchr]

I sure like your cell.... ever want to sell them, let me know. :-)

Also, What model is your power supply and where did you get it. I am looking for one with the same qualities that you are using.

Look forward to seeing your next video.

The old 'shop' tchr (37 years and still in the classroom)

[delvis11]

i think the model is vs70m. it's made by Astron.

[delvis11]

this cell is mostly going to be for demonstration purposes. plus i just wanted to have the biggest swinging #@$% on youtube. also just think of the experiments i can do with 50LPM. now all i need is 750 amps. just kidding.... it all for fun!

[davidrrrd]

whatcha gona do with the hho?

[insAneTunA]

WOW!!!!

[higherpoweredh2o]

I would be interested in 3 31 plate cells in parallel against that monster. It just seems like the flow would be less efficient. Would be a good test non the less.

I never built a monster just bec of size. Eaiser for me to run multiple cells.

Good luck 5 stars

[delvis11]

i doubt i will ever have enough power to see. runs flawlessly at 80 amps.

[higherpoweredh2o]

LOL Need to hook it up to my burban. 300a avail from its charging system.  looks fun.