Lost Evidence: "Peleliu" 2 of 5

[topperheartramada]

that 'authentic' japanese accent they use for the narration by japanese people is hilarious. ruins the entire program.

[xCh34pShOtx]

If the U.S. had the T28 tank destroyers and M26 Pershing developed earlier, the war would have ended a lot quicker.

[MAKER6450]

@xCh34pShOtx thats like saying if they had the Nuke the war would have ended alot quicker.

[AUG351]

The japanese had better tanks being built but never had enuff materials near the end of the war to produce enuff to of them but some experimental tanks were planned to be used durring the invasion of japan that never happened. Just look up the type 3 chi nu or type 4 chi to tanks wich could take on a sherman, both with a 75mm gun and better armor.

[Ncnk1]

Wow try imagine if the Japanese was to launch an Offensive on America.... They would have been blown to shit.

[TheChuck624]

War Sucks!

[reinkaosMHB]

6:10 Jerry Fessler. You are the man.

[bc1969214]

Peliliu is a main point of coverage for The Pacific since Eugene Sledge is one of the key characters.It was on HBO early in 2010 and is now on DVD/Blu Ray. Highly recommended.

[huytiopful]

i wonder what would have happened if those light jap tanks were tiger tanks, supported by mobile AA vehicles

[LobsterHumper]

@huytiopful why would the japs have tiger tanks?

[LeCreuset05]

@LobsterHumper It's not too unlikely. The Japanese and the Germans traded secrets regarding jet technology via submarine. Additionally, there were reports of the Japanese employing German 88s on Okinawa. Ergo, there was a possibility that such a scenario could happen.

[LobsterHumper]

@LeCreuset05 the Tiger was very difficult to transport due to its interlocking wheel design

[guysmiley00]

@LeCreuset05 German 88s on Okinawa? Do you have a source for that? I find it very hard to believe. It would be incredibly difficult to transport said units from Germany to Japan, and the Japanese industrial structure would have made it rather difficult to build them locally. Besides, having such guns wouldn't really make a great deal of sense in the Japanese strategy - they relied more on naval vessels and aircraft for AA operations.

[LeCreuset05]

@guysmiley00 I read it in a veteran's account of the battle in World War II magazine.

I can't remember his name atm. When I do, I'll be sure to let you know.

[guysmiley00]

@LeCreuset05 Thanks. I don't mean to offend, I just find it hard to fathom.

[AJslippery]

god bless these men and their sacrifices

[nelson3300]

"Nearly all are hit, but most make it to shore"

Who is the editor for this program? Absolutely unsatisfactory narration. fail.

[AJslippery]

@nelson3300 .. they were talking about the tanks.. they can be hit, and make it ashore. he was just saying they took hits/damage but most made it ashore

[nelson3300]

bridgehead?  bridgehead?! BEACH head jesus

[redchaosdragon1]

wait a minute. on 0:56 that looks like a german tank

[snakes3425]

@Gnoppong

A lot of missions take place on Peleliu but World at War doesn't cover the entire battle, they only cover the fighting on the Beaches, the Airstrip, and the Point they left out the fighting in the Mountains (Bloody Nose Ridge) and the final confrontation (the Pocket). I remember they kind of recreated one of the stories the Marines interviewed told, namely the action of taking out three Type 95 Tanks at the Airstrip

[onceANexile]

Shortest bomb-run in all ww2- 1000yds. 9 combat cameraman lost

81st Inf, Div, US Army.

[89grandizer]

I'm going here in January via Palau.... wife will be Scuba diving and I'll be touring the island. Would love to see if I could hook up with a MIA group to do some searching but I'll only have 2 days on the island tops... try to get to Angaur too

[darian2777]

U THINK THEIR FORGOTTEN WHAT ABOUT ETHIOPIA

[fallout111111]

how horribel to see that 4:09

[quentinterri]

Did I just see a mp40? Way to drag it through campaigns

[darian2777]

@quentinterri THATS NOT AN MP40 ITS A GREASE GUN MADE BY USA.

[JoesWarStudios96]

i just realised, this is like the airfeild from WAW when miller takes out the tanks with a bazooka

[LobsterHumper]

@JoesWarStudios96 the airfield may the same. But Peleliu was nothing like call of duty

[Ncnk1]

@LobsterHumper Yeah it took me 5 minutes to take the airfield on veteran O_o.

[mannixisle]

The Battle of Peleliu was a sickening, unnecessary bloodbath, and was largely forgotten until now. The Big Ego MacArthur wanted the airfield at Peleliu so his flank would be protected when he made his big I Will Return Photo Op on Leyte.

Thank you for posting this! The memory of these brave men must be kept alive.

[Toddinfantry]

@mannixisle Check my post on Peleliu 1 of 5. Another of these fallen Marines will be remembered.

Semper Fi !

[mannixisle]

@Toddinfantry Thanks... you¡ve posted a great series.

[Burco1]

This battle seemed even more vicious than Tarawa, if that is possible!

[fox5411]

Does anyone know exactly how many US Marine Divisions were engaged in the Battle of PELELIU? If so were they the 1st and 2nd Divisions? If so what regiments were involved? thanks

[Toddinfantry]

@fox5411 Only the First Marine Division, reinforced with Army's 81st Division. The Marine regiments were the First, Fifth, Seventh and Eleventh.

[atltom58]

@fox5411 just the first marine div and a army div

[ebusitanus]

There were 179 individual tank destruction claims on the 11 tanquettes that made that charge. I doubt this man destroyed by himself 3 of them.

[MrLlurati]

War is evil,but the marines that fought on peleliu were brave and fearful. I am readng Eugene Sledge's memoir 'With the Old Breed". very good book, makes you feel like you are there.

[Gilvin]

at 7:18, that soldier bumped fire the M1...

[noob2top3210]

I'm glad these imagies were found recently because technolgy was limited even 5 years ago

[gjohnsoningary]

@noob2top3210 Eugene Sledge's "With the Old Breed gives a very detailed account of his experience on Peleleiu. Harrowing!

[ali4330]

Allied miliatry planners in South East Asia disagreed to equipped their miltary with tank.They felt the tanks too heavy for the haevily rained tropical soils.The Japanese instead field light tanks which were more suitable.They managed to conquered Malaya/Singapore and Indonesia quickly using them

[jakefree25]

Jap tanks were junk, Our 60mm bazooka would barely dent a German tank.

[tak0242424]

maybe because they didnt have the right materials??

[Pugmak]

Heavier armor is very much logistics intensive, and the Japanese campaigns in both the Pacific Islands and China tended to be constrained in terms of logistics availability.

There was no real driving need for the Japanese to invest in heavier armor.

[tak0242424]

they were more of shipbuilders rather than tanks

[bodylove33]

@jakefree25 hahah dude german tanks was the best tanks ever made tiger tanks usa had no chance aganist them

[BubbaMetal]

@bodylove33 yea until out P-51's bombed the shit out of them, once they lost control of the skies the "Ultimate tanks" were 56 ton hunks of steel.

[rentman1995]

@bodylove33

The Russian tanks were far superior to the German ones !

[jomardomingo77]

@rentman1995 russian taks were the best during ww2

[ilias94x]

@rentman1995 early models of the t34 ( used 1941- about 42 or 43) had a 2 cylnder engine, similar to one a of a Harley Davidson motorcycle, also the thickness of the armor on a t34 (which wasn't so good to begin with), veried at which factory it was built at, so at one factory they give to much armor meanwhile at another they give it to little. there was very little consistency with how they built their tanks.

[NewSarcaticRascist]

@jakefree25 jap tanks can easily destroyed by some pair of grenedes and just a flamethrower

[XXXpallisterXXX]

@jakefree25 Japanese tanks didn't need to be thickly armoured when they were develpoed. The only country bodering Japan with better tanks was the Soviet Union, the Japanese didn't want to attack the Soviets. They were to concentrated on the Chinese who had worse tanks, Japanese tanks surved their purpose at the time well, they did start to develop thicker armoured tanks but the nuclear attacks made them stop, German tanks were the linch pin of Blitzkreig and needed to be tough.

[rockyblacksmith]

@jakefree25

Depends on which german tank.

[tomster73]

they were not even the good bazookas in the eto! the bazooka were up graded in the eto becuase at first the panzer 3 and 4 could be blown up by the bazookas! but they had to upgrade them for the panzer v and 6 but they were in efective! but the chi-ha would exspode by the old bazooka! thats why in korea they had the old bazookas against t-34 and the us troops were fucked becuase they had the pto equipment!

[MAKER6450]

@jakefree25 almost all jap weapons were junk....but they were still good anough to kill alot of people.

[Lunkanp]

My grandfather was there in the 1st Marine Division. He described it just like this-"we were cannon fadder."

[shieckeff]

Wow,the video is so cool

[Hotwheelsonfire]

the m3 grease gun 1:59

[Hamptoncltn]

No offence to anyone, but how come there isn't any shows about the black units of WWII? I mean seriously its like they forgot that blacks or any other race have fought..they fought and died just as hard as everyone else, but it really seems they haven't gotten any credit at all..

[88pie88]

they did very little, 90% of the time black units are always behind the front. the only time i herd that a black unit fought was in battle of the bulge as tank men.

[gjohnsoningary]

@88pie88.Study history further. The Black unit you mentioned that fought in the Bulge was my father's unit the 761st Tank Battalion. Also the 333rd and 969th Field Artillery Battalions, both Black units gave fire support for the the 101st Airborne Division at Bastogne. The 333rd suffered so many casualties that the remainder had to be put into the 969th. Two Black American Infantry Divisions saw combat in WW2. The 92nd in Italy and the 93rd in the Pacific. Black men saw action more than we know.

[88pie88]

i guess you are right. but like i said they did little. i was just saying the only time i read that black soldiers were "realy used" was in battle of the bulge. in italy they were artillery men . in the Pacific sailors, and also in 1942 they dug a oil line from canada to alaska. they had less tolls than the whites but still did 10 times better. the black soldiers were great. but they had to wait near the end of the war to see any action.

[Toddinfantry]

@gjohnsoningary And don't forget the Tuskeegee Airmen. Also known as the "Red Tail Devils" The recorded the best bomber escort record of the war, and rang up a very impressive record overall.

[gjohnsoningary]

@Toddinfantry Who can forget the Tuskegee Airmen!

[gjohnsoningary]

The 93rd Infantry Division went into action in the Pacific April, 1944 reinforcing Army and Marine units at Bougainville, the largest Island in the Solomons. They were also deployed in New Guinea and Bismarck Archipelago. April of 1944 isn't toward the end of the war. Plenty of both the Pacific and European campaigns still lay ahead. "Accepted" history books don't tell you everything. Did you know that Black American soldiers saw combat in North Africa against Field Marshal Rommel?

[Hotwheelsonfire]

check dogfights tuskeegee airmen

[Hamptoncltn]

ah, cool, at least someone decided to talk about them..

[nabbailey]

im not being racist there was a unit called "Eleanor Rossevelts Niggers" they were an all black unit, and i believe they had the best results of any black unit, and most white ones

[Hamptoncltn]

wow O_O

[SangsungMeansToCome]

Just note that US casualties are "horrible" and "total carnage", while the other side's suffering is hardly even mentioned. While for every American dead there were 6 or 7 Japanese dead on Peleliu, on Okinawa it iwas 10:1. The carnage is ten times greater on the other side.

It's like the war has never ended in this documentary. And in a way it hasn't: They still draw the justification of their new wars out of WW2.

[mecher3k]

What, gee your stupidity leads me to think you are a creationist.

[88pie88]

im creationist, and i have a 5.1 avrage.

[mecher3k]

Yep, thanks for proving my point, you can't spell a simple word.

Dumb ass creationist.

[88pie88]

lol simple miss click, i guess you should of know that. did your mother teach you that people make mistakes sometimes. Oh w8 you dont have a mother, your just some random creature that came out of a monkeys ass. yea whats you cell number, once your in hell you should tell me how Darwin is? i herd he married stalin?

[mecher3k]

Right...

For someone claiming that was just a simple "miss click," you sure do suck at spelling and grammar.

So I will go to hell for accepting what the evidence says, if your precious book said the sky was red you would still believe that over the obvious fact it's blue.

Dumb ass.

[88pie88]

sorry, im from northern germany and i am not use to your language. And what evidence is there? There is as much Evidence that there is No God as there is to There is a God. I would love to hear your idea because nobody known to mankind has proven that there is no god.

[Drakken682]

Yeah , the war is over. But war documentaries are not made to be fair and balanced. Many of these veterans would refuse to shake hands with Japanese vets if they ever meet them, even today. And you can see why here.

Japanese fought to the last men on these islands well over the point of defeat, and this is what this documentary show: How the Japanese made American soliders payed every inch, every meter of these islands with their blood and guts, even when the island was a secondary target.

[88pie88]

no or little jap vets are still alive.

[Hamptoncltn]

must u say the word jap..seriously not necessary..

[Lasstpak]

@SangsungMeansToCome

letters from Iwo Jima

[atltom58]

@SangsungMeansToCome The Japanese defenders could have thrown down there arms and put up a white flag and lived out the war in relative comfort but nooooo they decided to fight to the last man even though the outcome was obvious before the marines landed. The Japanese got what they asked for.

[NobleKorhedron]

@SangsungMeansToCome F.Y.I, the Japanese were almost worse than Hitler!! What do you say to events like the Rape of Nanking, the bombing of Chinese civilians in Shanghai, Beijing and Guangzhou? And the atrocities committed against the many P.O.W's who found themselves in Japanese custody?! Case Study: The Bataan Death March!!

[atltom58]

@SangsungMeansToCome Its a sort of karma thing. you get what you ask for, too bad the carnage for the japanese couldnt have been 10+ times worse.

[VNGUY123]

wow Jerry he shoot down 3 tank he could recive some medal

[Greendunham]

Yeah, You're right, that's not MP40...xD

[AmericanPatriot957]

Actually 1stUSMarine, What you see a 2:07 is a M3A1 Submachine gun also known as a "Grease Gun".

[killu19]

1stUSMarine doesn't know what he is talking about AmericanPatriot, he uses what he knows from playing Call of Duty World at War, a video game.

[1stUSMarine]

hey...im use a 6yrs old kid...i dont know anything

[Rikki0]

And come on guys, give 1stUSMarine a break. His profile says he's only 19 and from Singapore, so he's not so familiar with our history. But I think his choice of name shows that he probably respects the Marine Corps. And I appreciate that. Semper Fi.

[Rikki0]

The MP40 was the German Schmeiser Machine Pistol. Used by the Germans in Europe.

[1stUSMarine]

ya...lol...at 2:07 they use MP40...

[1stUSMarine]

i though D-Day was call only in de European?Why its in Japan?

[MIATeddyBear]

D-Day is any day in which an operation begins

[1stUSMarine]

ok thanx

[snakes3425]

@1stUSMarine

D-Day is the code word for when an operation commences, Normandy is just the best known use of the phrase and the two have become linked

[Rhine40]

For those of you interested in learning more about this battle I would suggest that you pick up a copy of "With The Old BreedWith the Old Breed: At Peleliu and Okinawa " by Eugene B. Sledge. It Sledge's memoirs from his time fighting with Kilo 3/5 at Peleliu and Okinawa.

[xo51xo]

I agree. This book is one of the few and in my opinion, the best book written by an enlisted Marine about the Pacific war..

When I was in Boot Camp in '69 I was billeted in the same area he was and even walked guard duty in the area he described in his book.

All those Quonset Huts are now gone.

A lot of history went with them, from WW2 thru Viet Nam and beyond.

"Sledgehammer" also fought in the battle for Okinawa. He passed away about three years ago. May he rest in peace.

Semper FI

[ramberghini]

Why don't we bother to talk about this battle in our schools? because we are too european minded. Why should the affairs of Europe, a continent born in the fires of war, concern us and our children more than those of our own men fighting against a very real and dangerous enemy who had taken american lives before, and would continued to do so had we not halted their advance. god damn the european wars, stick to isolationism.

[creamycurdy]

has to be said if it wernt for cod waw i would never have even known about this battle

and i would never have bothered to look at this documentry

and i would have learned nothing

so

salut to the veterns of the Pacific and to the fallen

[i2ockinDan]

same here, and i thought i knew alot about WWII too

[fox5411]

This is great ! My father fought in this battle during WWll. I never really knew the details of this battle until seeing it on Youtube. There has been very little written about Peleiu's history as a part of the strategic warfare of the Pacific.

[redslownight]

well atleast the japs tanks were practically no match for shermans...but against a german tiger? no.

[callofdutyguy9]

this show is pretty graphic, better be mentaly prepared if you decide to serve your country

[ww2luv]

the bazooka man is a hero

[ProjectCC]

amazing doc

[Deathofblades]

so does that mean fissler was awarded the medal of honor?

[captsnafu]

Only 2 non-posthumous CMH winners were at Peleliu, Cpt. Everett C. Pope and Pfc. Arthur J. Jackson. Pfc. Jackson took 12 mg nests single-handedly and Pope is covered here in this doc. All other winners were men who took the brunt of grenade explosions to save their comrades. I believe Fissler got the Navy Cross but I could be wrong about that.