@TreasuresOfTheLORD Regarding scientists believing in Einsteins first postulate and thus being required to believe in God. Just because A and B are parts of C, doesn't make them equal. For instance, bananas and apples are fruits - that doesn't make apples yellow.
Leave logic to the men and women actually trying to understand the world. Infact, lack of logic is the foundation of religion - in a world where belief weighs heavier than reason, nobody can be wrong - not even you.
i respect this man,but i dont agree with what he sais, why would there be such suffering,god is fair and he wont treat people equally,but those who are bad cauze other people to suffer,you think life ends by dying and that you have to claim everything in this life coz theres no other one,i think eternity lies after death,heaven and hell,we will eventually know wont we :D:D
As a very religeous person and I still absolutely agree with David here. To present the truth of life and portray a vision of God accurately is very hard indeed. I love the fact that be allows people to decide on their own theology for this, be it present or not. He does not force God but neither does he call someone an ideot for believing in one. He presents the cold hard facts of life and there is not a more noble a cause. I wish I knew half of what this man has forgotten.
i believe he is very smart and i love his videos but i do not agree with what he is saying.
if there was no pain and no suffering or the child on th bank with the worm in his eye that is going to make him blind before he is 5 then people would have no need for God
@heztheonlyone Totally, that's why people invented gods and religions. They're afraid of blinding worms, disasters and the other things they didn't understand and imagined a mighty power who would be responsible for all of these. I believe we have no need for gods but a better understanding of the nature.
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why are you people applauding this man. this man stands against freedom. this man would kill you in one second without a second thought, all in the name of reducing world population and nature, don't believe do some research,
I love attenbourgh, he stated the fact well. To believe in something deeper is harmless and infect need for most of us. Don't think for one minute that humanity would be better off without creationism. Not that I am one but I do get why we need to feel that it's all worth something. Live and let live !!
I tried reading the bible in a hotel room once, the first chapter had some pretty nasty stuff in it, incest, murder etc...to be honest it made me a bit sick, so i skipped to the end. Turned out Jesus did it....
@TreasuresOfTheLORD Well god kills a bunch of people for being disobedient, then some guy 'lays' with his daughters to repopulate the earth. Abraham maybe? I didn't pay a lot of notice, i'm not a fan of fiction. Prefer biographies and comedy......
...When Lot's two daughters purposely got him drunk and slept with him: the end result was starting off the nations of Moab and the Ammonites: who were 100s of years later the bitter enemies of God's chosen: Israel.
The Bible is not fiction. When a person experiences God's love for themselves...they know!
than u probably go to hell.. lol i bet u did something wrong in ur life.
nobody is perfect right. if the bible would be true and humans were put on the planet how can u explain dinosaurs lol.. and please please explain to me how adam and eve''s children could make more children without incest :) tell me.
did god create the dogs we keep as pets? no they were wolfs.. evolution made them who they are and we had influance.. damn this is 2012 dude
Jesus has paid my debt for my sin. And the common understanding of "hell" is a Roman catholic Pagan heresy. Malachi 4:3 plainly says that the wicked will eventually become ashes. There are many more verses I can share if you like...
Anyway, there was nothing wrong with Adam's sons marrying his daughters. In the beginning the race was pure - the genetics were pure. It BECAME wrong 2500 years later because of corruption, which is caused by sin.
...The laws which govern this universe are immaterial, universal and unchanging.
God is immaterial, universal and unchanging.
And yet scientists manage to believe in those laws and yet they do not believe in The Law of God, or the Author of that Law.
Well you see my friends, in a world-view where only matter exists; and that matter is constantly changing -- God is removed out of the picture. And with Him; universal, immaterial and unchanging laws also do not exist.
No. Evolution is not feasible. There's a difference between choosing one of many phenotypes from a singular genotype as opposed to editing the actual information from the genotype itself.
The proof of God is that we can prove things. You must rely upon God's existence for science, mathematics and logic.
Now Satan (our enemy) is the one who perverts the truth a million different ways.
Why not accept Christ who offers us a bettwer way?!
What on earth are you saying please ! How is children dying in Africa a sign that God doesn't exist ? I think that you have no clue why God created human on earth , if there was no sufffering would be called paradise ! Those children of africa are suffering from the unjustice of man , because God gave us free will until we die ! If we implemented the law of God and not the law of man those children wouldn't be dying in Africa !
@MrCobra811 there is no god seriously how fucking stupid are you? God was made up by man and something that you couldnt prove or unprove its not hard to work out!! i could say im god and you couldnt prove i wasnt.. dumbass
@GrandMasterKai Please go read some books first and don't just let other do the thinking for you , cos everybody is gonna die in his own , nobody is gonna come with you in the grave ! God was made by man , yeah statues and rocks but not the one who created the universe ! You could say you are god ahahah, yeah but you die , I can kill you therefore you cannot be God , Man o man welcome to 21st century , the century of ignorance !
@MrCobra811 Almost correct. Those children exist because of the law of man. The reason all those children die is called a hero and savior by the modern world even.
Prevent a famine with bringing in new crops 20 years ago, all those people will survive and have 4 or more children on their own. Now again reaching the limits of nourishing them all. So better let 500'000 people die in an area that is clearly unsuited for habitation, as having 2'000'000 die 20 years later.
@Mp57navy There was no man , when there were laws ! So man didn't create any laws he just copied and took what suited his desires and left what he didn't like , that today is called modern world of Atheism, The reason those children die is the greed and the man made capitalism ! If everybody would have practiced the law of God which was before man was made , there would be no famine , cos the bilionars and the flashy cars would feed the whole world !
Actually I would argue that all the suffering in the world would point to the existence of a God. Man would not have invented the concept of an almighty power, of a redemptive existence on earth towards a possible blissful afterlife if life on this world weren't so full of suffering to begin with. That's why Religion bookend life with Genesis and Heaven.
Then again, as a naturalist, Attenborough has no need to regard any of that stuff. He's here for life in all its rawness.
Sir David Attenborough is a supreme genius of humanity. He is a human that sometimes makes me proud to be a human. Yes sometimes i despise humanity and its ways but David Attenborough gives me hope.
Bible’s stories Old Bible story: "He... hanged the Earth upon nothing " / Job 26:7 / New Bible story: According to the many scientific experts however, space didn't exist prior to the Big Bang It is possible to say, "He... hanged the Big Bang upon nothing " This situation is strange But if we think that ‘nothing’ is a Reference Frame ( Vacuum) then the situation will be different # Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts / Richard Feynman /
@fearghal10 again mate you're talking nonsense. The fossil record goes back a lot further than 600,000 years. Stone age tools have been found that are older than 600,000 years. You're well out. And life began approximately 3.5 billion years ago.
@Phil84mufc yeah, I got my numbers mixed up, single cellular organisms are thought to have emerged 2 or 3 billion years ago. The fossil record goes back about six hundred thousand years.
@ThaKidFrankiee He isnt talking about a single documentry - this is Sir David Attenborough - who's Britain's longest serving Natural History Broadcaster! He's mainly talking in general - but the monkey scene is probably either Living Planet (BBC Series) or possible Life on Earth - it looks like one of his 70's epics on British TV
@ngimangi is it not easy enough to imagine a dog coming from a mouse like thing if it went mouse -- shrew -- rat -- ferret -- stoat -- wolverine -- wolf. You just have to think about it in terms of geological time, and it is entirely feasible.
@ngimangi but species are just labels we apply to groups, they don't represent some kind of unsurpassable boundary. I'll make it simple enough; 600000 years ago single cellular organisms formed. From there it went (more or less) algae -- basic plants -- jellyfish -- fish -- insects -- (from other fish at a later date) amphibians -- reptiles -- mammals -- (from other reptiles) birds.
@fearghal10 Ha ha ha ha. Is six hundred thousand the biggest number you could think of? because it certainly isn't when single cell organisms first appeared! Before trying to educate others pal you need to brush up a little on your own knowledge.
@ngimangi it is a perfectly good explanation, natural selection applied over time equals evolution. Our journey from single cellular organism to what we are now simply happened over a near inconceivable period of time. By all means, point out the holes
@fearghal10 Hi there. The point is that natural selection over time does not equal single celled organisms to you and me. I dont know if you get what i'm saying - take dogs for example - they all descend from a common ancestor but what do they all have in common? - they are all dogs!!!! ( they have not drastically changed into another species...) Natural selection is highly dependent on the environment. Take Darwins finches, the short beaked ones died - this is not evolution on the grand scale..
The arrogance of Christians have never ceased to amuse. They always try to pick a fight when no one is picking on them. While others are fine or indifferent with the Christians, they themselves are not. It was my decision long time ago to not believe in the bible, but unlike those who do believe in it, I don't waste my time trying to prove something that I have never intellectually questioned.
Life is already too short for such a beautiful world. Don't waste it on arguing with Christians.
1. I live for my loved ones. I live for gratitude for their love and the responsibility for them. I live for the constant excitement of what this world has offered and the possibilities it holds. And I live for making it a better for the next generation.
2. I can run repeated experiments with peas in my garden and achieve consistent results as natural selection would predict. I can't run any experiments based any religious texts have any significant results. Other than common themes.
@lefan23 hi and thankyou for your answer. What i think is missing is why? what is the point? what drives you to do that? i get that you are curious about the universe as am i ....but if we are all thereis(the material universe), we can only accurately attest to what we can observe then if thats true i'm hitting the nearest strip club and robbing a couple of banks on the way. The human consequences of these actions are irrelevant (arrest, jail) because when you die that's it...whos with me? NOT
@junglejargon evolution does not work so quickly to achieve all we see today, it must have taken much, much longer. What you have to understand is that evolution is not a force to an end, not something you can choose to believe in or not, it is the logical outcome of genetics. If you have bigger fins you can swim faster, so you will go longer without starving or being eaten and will therefore have more time in which to have more babies who will carry the big fin gene. It's a beautifully simple
@fearghal10 you are describing natural selection. This is not a valid mechanism for evolution on a grand scale (singel cell to u and me) neither is mutations....
@ngimangi show us an optional valid mechanism and explain why it is a better explanation for the development of living systems. I imagine that if evidence is a must for you, you would never believe in 3 day old corpses becoming reanimated (Jesus Christ in the Bible), life after death or divine creation. There's a huge lack of evidence for those things!
@grouchyarchie simple the eye witness accounts that attest to the resurrection. 120 saw him alive. The romans did a good job at killing him as they always did with crucifixion. What more do you want?
@ngimangi Thank you for responding in the way you did! You didn't insult me or my intelligence and I wish there were more of this level of conversation on the posts. I think we differ in what we consider to be good evidence. If you've ever seen a children's game called Chinese Whispers you can see why eyewitness testimony becomes diluted over time. Scientific methods are much more rigorous and precise. I was only pointing out the difference in the quantity and quality of evidence.
@grouchyarchie and i am sorry if i have said some things in a rude way. i try to be as logical as i can and make intelligent comments! even if a man rising from the dead after 3 days is baloney! :) calm discussion is what i want - i do not claim to have all the answers! all the best
@ngimangi I didn't think of you as rude at all, and I think we all benefit from learning ideas that don't agree with our worldview. These are important questions about who we are! As far as the 3 days go, I personally think it is unlikely. In science, the smart ones never say this or that is impossible. That's a great way to get into trouble! It is refreshing that we differ and haven't stooped to flaming one another. I'll try to stay in touch. Take care :)
ngimangi - Sorry, had only 14 characters remaining! Forgot to ask what you think is an optional valid mechanism which not only explains the complexity and diversity of living systems, but can also make predictions about what we can expect to find, both new and extinct. Would very much like to know what evidence there is as well. Take care :)
@junglejargon you cannot be serious! You yourself believe in evolution, think about it: you believe that all humans alive today are descended from Noah, correct? Well you also acknowledge that there are dozens of races of humans, thus you believe in evolution as they had to evolve from one man. Once you see this how can it be that hard to consider all life we see today evolving from a tiny handful of common ancestors. How long ago do you think this flood was? 3000 odd years? Well that can't be,
Evolution is far from true. Mutations do not even order anything.
There is no evidence of evolution and there is observable evidence that all our digitally ordered functions have a Maker.
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Stop using strawman arguments to support your pathetic belief that objects and mutations order things. Evolution does not happen so it can never be proven.
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You should be banned from schools. Your belief that mutations order things is baseless.
Anyways, I'm not going to continue a useless debate with a small army so don't even bother replying. I know that I will not follow the world because the majority isn't always right. The MAJORITY didn't follow Christ. Better to die and find out I was right than die and discover I was wrong. 1 Tim. 2:4-5, Ps. 97:6, Ps. 19-1.
Evolution is a lie and there is no proof of it. People should be a little offended when referred to as advanced apes. Animals are afraid of man because of Adam and Eve. The world as it is now is not what it was meant to be. Is that God's fault? No. You would have done the same in The Garden.
@Demonairing No I did not grow up with anything crammed down my throat. I have spent a lot of time thinking about the universe, life, death and spiritual things. Man is not as far along as he thinks he is. He is not improving in any way. Man is only on the decline. And the more he thinks he can explain all universe and creation and the more he outright rejects his creator, the further he will fall. Yes the church has shed much blood but that certain church is not the one created by Christ.
@Noremorse10 How is man not improving? What, in your opinion, would constitute an improving humanity? You also presume to know how the world should be. The world is what people make it.
And, btw, evolution is as good as fact when you look at the evidence, whereas believe in God is 100% speculative. The existence of God does not follow from the existence of the universe, one cannot assume simply because the universe and life exist that a God must exist in order to have created it.
@raptic Well that's where you have the free will to reject the bible or accept it. But it clearly testifies to His creation and there is much to observe in scientific proof of creation but of course any evolutionist will just laugh and toss it away.. Do you really need to know what an improving humanity should be? Have you seen the world lately? I will just say this, we are made to serve and seek His will.
didnt say anything was cramed down your throat and if you asked anyone researching the universe and humans they will tell you we no next to nothing of the universe and we are nothing special.
I highly dout you have spent alot of time thinking about the universe or anything widely spiritual as both your comments are extreamly narow minded. i dont care if your a slug or a extreamest i just hope you try to better yourself and that means opening your mind to what is infront of you.
@Noremorse10 i dont know what a evolutionist is and i didnt call you a flat earther. labels divide people and make judging them easyer, this is a step backwords for everyone.
im gona remove some comments from here as im geting pm's from people telling me im going to hell for not beliving and that i must be some jew nigger the nazzi's missed and if they new were i lived they would take me out and shot me in the head cos thats what they do with people like me and all sorts of terrible things.
@Demonairing I have no problem with you not replying, because the bottom line is, I can never convince people like you and you will never convince me. Mainly because I have seen mountains moved in my life and the lives of others. Changes and things done to people that can only mean that Christ is real and the Holy Spirit works on people. Don't tell me about making the world a better place when I know some empty, humanist doctrine that's just another religion will not be that change.
@Ahabite Actually he did. We are called Christians and Baptists, names given by those who persecuted those who were followers of Christ's teachings. Those BAPTISTS in the river. Those CHRISTIANS following the lunatic claiming to be The Messiah. The Baptist church that teaches the KJV, the only bible which can't be proven contradictory.. and those who sit and try and make these claims are pulling verse out of context and simply do not understand.
Looks like you had that worm in your eye already, blind on both eyes. Why am I a fool? If you call the cause of the universe God then logically it created everything incl. evolution. Now if you confuse that with the explanation of God by some obsessive fundamentalist theists or atheists you are blind to the logic that the concept of God represents. U should know that he does not sit in the clouds to watch us. The bit that watches you is the logic inside u - if you have some
so basically, david is all about utopia - the imaginary world where everything is perfect, no diseases, no deaths, no wars, only peace and love. well david there is such a place, but its not this 1, this world is a place where we are all tested for faith and stamina. u get through that test, u go to utopia = heaven, meanwhile, those amazing views of nature we see is actually a proof of the almighty power, like it or not.,
@nadine89er he is saying the exact opposite you fool. this world is not one created by an all-loving all-powerful god. he is saying that it would be a utopia if it was.
the fact that this world isn't a utopia is inconsistent with the existence of a god of any kind. only in fictional universes maybe, but not this one :)
@leptismagna10 what i meant u fool that he wants planet earth to be heaven not thinking that our lives on this planet r simply a test to go to that utopia he's asking for.
well then how was this whole world in every amazing and sad and extremely miraculous things included existed ?? a mere coincidence? of course not, the mighty god has created this whole thing and those creatures. i mean how can u not believe in god ! its like ur saying a ship built its own self !
I WANT to believe in a god and an afterlife. But Earth is a horrible merciless place. The more one knows about the world, the more impossible it is to believe in 'god'.
@MetalBru01 Ok I thought he was an atheist, if hes not my apologies. Do I think only athiests are smart? Obviously not but I do think they're the smartest as far as the existence of God goes.
@DawkinsForWeAreMany I dont know what your talking about but you said "like a true, ungrateful, small minded atheist" thats just fucking rude. Your stereotyping atheists with different beliefs even though you dont know them, and id say you dont know shit about medicine so you cant say " we'd have far more medicine". Treat others how you'd like to be treated, you should know that.
@DawkinsForWeAreMany Why are you so angry? Is your dick small or something? Don't come to this house comparing medicine and art. One is important, life saving, and the other is metaphorically life saving. It's not the same shit, dumbass.
What kind of response did you expect when you give such a shit-for-brains answer like "Duhhhh, he inspires art." Wtf is wrong with you? Where your parents brother and sister?
just goes to prove that believers choose to live in a world of their own and censoring REALITY is perfectly alright, take a look at what they're trying to do in science classes!
@realskpetic "LOL, you actually believe that Quran has scientific facts?"
Having problems recognizing sarcasm and arguments? What do you think I mean by "but pick 7 and it fits.", "That's like saying the vital role of people is being supported by chairs"? and "With that mind-set, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy."
Why do you think I put "scientific facts" between quotes? dear oh dear...
"He wraps the night up in the day, and wraps the day up in the night" that clearly means that earth is round, right?
7 atmospheric layers; it's really 5 main layers or 9 subdivided, but pick 7 and it fits.
Isostasy: "We placed firmly embedded mountains on the earth, so it would not move under them" They call isostasy "This vital role of mountains". That's like saying the vital role of people is being supported by chairs or something..
"He has let loose the two seas, converging together, with a barrier between them they do not break through." That's the strait of Gibraltar they say: "the waters of neighboring seas do not mix". They refer to the difference in salinity, which actually causes a constant bottom stream out, and top stream in. "a barrier they do not break through"??
Muslims believe the quran is full of science facts unknown at the time. With that mind-set, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
The old testament is full of symbolism! The New testament is to be taken literaly! Only dumb ass fundamentalists take the old testament literaly. Even the Pope embraces evolution. It dosent contradict the christian faith at all. So it isn't a matter of religion v evolution at all! Evolution doesn't threaten the existence of God at all. In fact many look at evolution as something that enhances their faith in God. Man is still learning, discovering what God has inspired.
If we are so devine, then why do we occasionally bite the insides of our own mouths. Have you ever felt more pathetic than "OUCH! Omg i was so eager to eat that bowl of pasta ive eaten through my own face!" haha =)
@JadwingaAnna Nah it doesnt work like that, the whole point of evolution is the random shit just happens, and things that are usefull stick around. You cant say we were destined for intellegence, because things that only come from millions of years of natural selection. Its survival for the fittest, and the most prominent species are the ones who have the best results with evolution. And saying that African children are paying for sins by way of being infected with paracites is just rediculous!
Religion is way to keep others in check, and stop their freedom. Its ignorant that people are prepared to believe anything the church says, just because it makes feel better about death. I was born catholic, but i have no patience with it, or other religions, i hate the fact that the church uses scare tactics in order to strike fear into people. Fuck religion, its over, they had their time, we know better now. The fact of the matter is Scientists are smarter than Priests. Religion is FUCKED!
Yeah. His analogy makes perfect sense. If God exists then why should an African boy suffer from sickness as an infant. I mean sure, this good ol' white man doesn't remember the fact that the countless attrocities and exploitations his kind have inflicted against the African people and continent are major factors into why Africa is suffering today, but still, he should blame God! It's God's fault after all!
A wise man who takes his work very seriously. His voice is calming and easy to listen to. I have been watching documentaries he has presented since I was a child.
Atheist .. Who created this universe and the perfect tunning of it.?? If By chance is your answer then If I say that I found computer in desert and was not created by anyone but the sand evolved in to it ..Who will beleive me... The answer will be only an atheist...Get a life and read Quran if you have doubts about religion.. and if questions come to my page and message me.. May GOD guide us
@DerrenBrown100 Brother I read evolution from darwin to dawkins. But you try read only QURAN and you will think other wise. unless you read it is useless to talk. . You ca not explain my first statement. I am sure reading will not hurt you.. May GOD guide us
@47saeed Salam brother I think you want to ask this question form some one else.. but if it is me thn yes ALHAMDULILLAH . it is best book on earth.. May GOD be with us
@SSGPakistan My question was for you, since so many Muslims have never read the Quran. I read half of Quran and I found it at best a trivial book. I am amazed others find it so full of wisdom.
@47saeed Thn you may fall in this category... Sura 2:18;; Deaf, dumb and blind and they will not understand.. btw have time to watch Dr Keith More who talks about embryology in Quran which is in Sura 23.. But O well.. It is hard for a person with a Trvial wisdom
@SSGPakistan "The answer will be only an atheist.." Actually, the answer is less likely to be an atheist and more likely to be someone religious, purely because someone who is atheist is more likely to understand what evolution is and that as such sand can not evolve into a computer as sand and computers can not reproduce, and a computer would be very very very heavily naturally selected against, even assuming a computer and sand reproduce, as a computer has no beneficial traits to the wild.
@SSGPakistan And the perfect "tunning" of it? I'd assume you mean tuning since it is the closest word to "tunning", however you obviously do not mean tuning as there is not "perfect tuning" in the universe to any sort of purpose of life or anything really. The only thing it has perfect tuning for is entropy to increase, so if you mean perfect tuning for entropy to increase then you are correct other than that every other purpose of the universe (which the purpose you obviously mean is life)...
@SSGPakistan Often when I hear things like the perfect tuning of the universe you hear things such as if you had a dial the length of the universe controlling something such as the cosmological constant or newtons gravitational constant or Planck's constant, it is often said that if you turned this dial just by a millimeter it would cause the universe to be entirely uninhabitable. What a load of bollocks. We don't even know any of those constant to any where near that sort of precision...
@SSGPakistan ... and the cosmological constant we aren't even sure if it exists or is a product of our measurements being slightly off as to measure the cosmological constant to any degree at all, not to an accurate amount, you need incredibly incredibly precise equipment. The gravitational constant could be changed to better values for life, and planck's constant we have no idea if it is or is not important to remain as it is, as it is so fundamental it is very difficult to predict how the...
@SSGPakistan ...universe would change if we changed planck's constant, however it is unlikely to be changed much if planck's constant is changed by a small amount.
yeah, evolution is said to operate by mutations and the natural selection, but have you ever seen mutation leading to a constructive change rather than destructive. Moreover, from what species did for ex bats come? 99% of species cannot be found on the tree of species- that's the opinion of Professor of Biology.
@JadwigaAnna You should watch this video by a youtuber named SiriusMined called Living proof of evolution, Down in My Heart. In this video he talks about his own constructive mutation of having an extra, full sized coronary artery. I'm sure you can imagine the benefits of having this.
For me it is quite obvious that 'evolution' had to be intelligent, because it brought very intelligent creatures- by chance you will never get any constructive result. Will sand from a beach ever become a watch? Sir David Attenborough said that existence of destructive worms etc is an evidence against God the Creator. But it is just the result of original sin. It is because of our fall that material creation (bound to us) was partly distorted. Still, majority of creation is wonderful and amazing
nothing to do with sin. God gave us the brains to deal with it. But who said that the life on earth should be all plain sailing, It's so bad it ends in death anyhow. silly God
So what then made the intelligent life form that created evolution? That is, if you believe evolution had an "intelligent designer" then what was the process for that intelligent designer to come into being? Was it a God that always existed or something that evolved?
@raptic- Hate is what got this world corrupted in the first place.Plus ignorance and intolerance is along with it.Do I think it's gonna change while people hate people?Not in this time of day unless something miraculously happens.That's just my opinion to say the lease.
@bahamiangreek101 Of course I don't truly "hate" anyone. I dislike greatly the fact that so many people choose to believe in a distorted reality. I'm sure we all live in a distorted reality to some extent given that there's much we do not understand, but to dismiss the truths that science has painstakingly found for us and instead believe in the unjustifiable? I hate that people choose to be this way.
@Atheisophy That is interesting give me a quick example of the denial of favour in manufactured systems of behaviour so I get a thorough understanding.
@Atheisophy Thank you for a more respectful approach. First I agree there is no evidence for atheists that God exists and I know I don't have hard scientific proof, there is no empirical data, it is what is meant by faith! For me it is my greatest challenge. For this precise reason that no one can disprove God , people are turning the attacks on religion rather than the belief of a God!
Attenborough is foolish. There is enough food, water and resources to feed and shelter every single human being on the planet. It is imbalance of these resources caused by 'market economics' which is the problem. God has given us everything. It is down to us to share. This is the test. This is the reality,
@mcprankster and then he demands to be refered to as an all powerful ,all perfect all intelligent superpower of the universe who loves all his creations and is always there for each and every one of us.
but for some reason he just decides to design the human animal to be a selfish and greedy creature who psychologically always wants more and is willing to make others around him suffer because of that defect in his nature .
Perhaps you should stop kissing his ass you shameless apologist?
It comforts me to know that Attenborough is wise r than Almighty God.
omgbygollywow 1 day ago
And religion dose nothing but distort reality...
XXTheRealMcCoyXX 2 days ago
@TreasuresOfTheLORD Regarding scientists believing in Einsteins first postulate and thus being required to believe in God. Just because A and B are parts of C, doesn't make them equal. For instance, bananas and apples are fruits - that doesn't make apples yellow.
Leave logic to the men and women actually trying to understand the world. Infact, lack of logic is the foundation of religion - in a world where belief weighs heavier than reason, nobody can be wrong - not even you.
ClipClippety 1 week ago
i respect this man,but i dont agree with what he sais, why would there be such suffering,god is fair and he wont treat people equally,but those who are bad cauze other people to suffer,you think life ends by dying and that you have to claim everything in this life coz theres no other one,i think eternity lies after death,heaven and hell,we will eventually know wont we :D:D
zodiac19931993 2 weeks ago
As a very religeous person and I still absolutely agree with David here. To present the truth of life and portray a vision of God accurately is very hard indeed. I love the fact that be allows people to decide on their own theology for this, be it present or not. He does not force God but neither does he call someone an ideot for believing in one. He presents the cold hard facts of life and there is not a more noble a cause. I wish I knew half of what this man has forgotten.
JaniceGhostHunter13 3 weeks ago
David Attenborough should record an audio book for Lord of The Rings and for Hobbit.
freekiroh 3 weeks ago 4
i believe he is very smart and i love his videos but i do not agree with what he is saying.
if there was no pain and no suffering or the child on th bank with the worm in his eye that is going to make him blind before he is 5 then people would have no need for God
heztheonlyone 3 weeks ago
@heztheonlyone Totally, that's why people invented gods and religions. They're afraid of blinding worms, disasters and the other things they didn't understand and imagined a mighty power who would be responsible for all of these. I believe we have no need for gods but a better understanding of the nature.
zehr 3 weeks ago
attenborough is part of Optimum Population Trust think tank. Who promotes depopulation of poor people. read a little anessenator........
Trevorthentcy 4 weeks ago
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why are you people applauding this man. this man stands against freedom. this man would kill you in one second without a second thought, all in the name of reducing world population and nature, don't believe do some research,
Trevorthentcy 1 month ago
@Trevorthentcy Sorry, can you repeat that? Your tin foil hat distracted me.
anessenator 4 weeks ago 2
@Trevorthentcy I totally agree with his opinion on that, though. There is no greater threat to man than overpopulation.
cmason619 2 weeks ago
What a legend. Let's all stop arguing and smile at a penguin waddling.
cazmaestro 1 month ago
the world used to be perfect, then got an arrow in the knee
kr7799 1 month ago
An absolute hero
inchaoswetrust 1 month ago
Sir David Attenborough IS your god. End of discussion.
TheZmeckz 1 month ago
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TheZmeckz 1 month ago
I love attenbourgh, he stated the fact well. To believe in something deeper is harmless and infect need for most of us. Don't think for one minute that humanity would be better off without creationism. Not that I am one but I do get why we need to feel that it's all worth something. Live and let live !!
colburtonuk 1 month ago
There are many unfortunate things in the world today. This has been so ever since Adam and Eve ate of the fruit of the tree.
They tasted - bitterly - the results of sin and woe.
But God in His great compassion has sent His Son to give us another way...
TreasuresOfTheLORD 1 month ago
@TreasuresOfTheLORD Hahaha, 'adam and eve', hilarious!
I tried reading the bible in a hotel room once, the first chapter had some pretty nasty stuff in it, incest, murder etc...to be honest it made me a bit sick, so i skipped to the end. Turned out Jesus did it....
bhoywhonder2011 1 month ago
@bhoywhonder2011
Jesus created Adam and Eve, yes. And where did you read of incest and murder in Genesis chapter 1?
TreasuresOfTheLORD 1 month ago
@TreasuresOfTheLORD Well god kills a bunch of people for being disobedient, then some guy 'lays' with his daughters to repopulate the earth. Abraham maybe? I didn't pay a lot of notice, i'm not a fan of fiction. Prefer biographies and comedy......
bhoywhonder2011 2 weeks ago
@bhoywhonder2011
God is ever-merciful and destruction is a last resort (see Ezek 33:11; 18;32 and 2 Peter 3:9) He is not willing for any to perish.
"Do violence to no man" Luke 3:14
...When Lot's two daughters purposely got him drunk and slept with him: the end result was starting off the nations of Moab and the Ammonites: who were 100s of years later the bitter enemies of God's chosen: Israel.
The Bible is not fiction. When a person experiences God's love for themselves...they know!
TreasuresOfTheLORD 2 weeks ago
@TreasuresOfTheLORD
than u probably go to hell.. lol i bet u did something wrong in ur life.
nobody is perfect right. if the bible would be true and humans were put on the planet how can u explain dinosaurs lol.. and please please explain to me how adam and eve''s children could make more children without incest :) tell me.
did god create the dogs we keep as pets? no they were wolfs.. evolution made them who they are and we had influance.. damn this is 2012 dude
maartieboy 2 weeks ago
@maartieboy
Jesus has paid my debt for my sin. And the common understanding of "hell" is a Roman catholic Pagan heresy. Malachi 4:3 plainly says that the wicked will eventually become ashes. There are many more verses I can share if you like...
Anyway, there was nothing wrong with Adam's sons marrying his daughters. In the beginning the race was pure - the genetics were pure. It BECAME wrong 2500 years later because of corruption, which is caused by sin.
Variation is not evolution.
TreasuresOfTheLORD 2 weeks ago
@TreasuresOfTheLORD Yeah I'm going with maartiboy on this one, its 2012 man. Quit believing in fairy tales.
MM28MGI 1 week ago
@MM28MGI
It's not a fairytale. Fairytales begin with "long ago and far away..."
Evolution begins with "millions of years ago..."
In fairytales, you kiss a frog and it'll turn into a prince.
In evolution, you add millions of years and a frog will turn into a prince.
It is the same fairytale: but you are worshipping the false god Kronos, which is the pagan god of time...
Anyway, all scientists are required to believe in God in order to sustain the validity of science.
TreasuresOfTheLORD 1 week ago
@TreasuresOfTheLORD
...The laws which govern this universe are immaterial, universal and unchanging.
God is immaterial, universal and unchanging.
And yet scientists manage to believe in those laws and yet they do not believe in The Law of God, or the Author of that Law.
Well you see my friends, in a world-view where only matter exists; and that matter is constantly changing -- God is removed out of the picture. And with Him; universal, immaterial and unchanging laws also do not exist.
TreasuresOfTheLORD 1 week ago
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@TreasuresOfTheLORD
"Do violence to no man" Luke 3:14
Yeah, can you push that over to all the religious folk who seem to have skipped that verse? I imagine it was kinda important.
bhoywhonder2011 2 weeks ago
Thank you Sir David, reality is what "is" . . .
hughc023 1 month ago
It's not evidence of god. Diversity is evidence of evolution
TheGlowingKnight 1 month ago
@TheGlowingKnight
No. Evolution is not feasible. There's a difference between choosing one of many phenotypes from a singular genotype as opposed to editing the actual information from the genotype itself.
The proof of God is that we can prove things. You must rely upon God's existence for science, mathematics and logic.
Now Satan (our enemy) is the one who perverts the truth a million different ways.
Why not accept Christ who offers us a bettwer way?!
TreasuresOfTheLORD 1 month ago
What on earth are you saying please ! How is children dying in Africa a sign that God doesn't exist ? I think that you have no clue why God created human on earth , if there was no sufffering would be called paradise ! Those children of africa are suffering from the unjustice of man , because God gave us free will until we die ! If we implemented the law of God and not the law of man those children wouldn't be dying in Africa !
MrCobra811 2 months ago in playlist Science and Religion
@MrCobra811 there is no god seriously how fucking stupid are you? God was made up by man and something that you couldnt prove or unprove its not hard to work out!! i could say im god and you couldnt prove i wasnt.. dumbass
GrandMasterKai 1 month ago
@GrandMasterKai
well said!!
donga30 1 month ago
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@GrandMasterKai Please go read some books first and don't just let other do the thinking for you , cos everybody is gonna die in his own , nobody is gonna come with you in the grave ! God was made by man , yeah statues and rocks but not the one who created the universe ! You could say you are god ahahah, yeah but you die , I can kill you therefore you cannot be God , Man o man welcome to 21st century , the century of ignorance !
MrCobra811 3 weeks ago
@MrCobra811 Almost correct. Those children exist because of the law of man. The reason all those children die is called a hero and savior by the modern world even.
Prevent a famine with bringing in new crops 20 years ago, all those people will survive and have 4 or more children on their own. Now again reaching the limits of nourishing them all. So better let 500'000 people die in an area that is clearly unsuited for habitation, as having 2'000'000 die 20 years later.
Mp57navy 3 weeks ago
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@Mp57navy There was no man , when there were laws ! So man didn't create any laws he just copied and took what suited his desires and left what he didn't like , that today is called modern world of Atheism, The reason those children die is the greed and the man made capitalism ! If everybody would have practiced the law of God which was before man was made , there would be no famine , cos the bilionars and the flashy cars would feed the whole world !
MrCobra811 3 weeks ago
Actually I would argue that all the suffering in the world would point to the existence of a God. Man would not have invented the concept of an almighty power, of a redemptive existence on earth towards a possible blissful afterlife if life on this world weren't so full of suffering to begin with. That's why Religion bookend life with Genesis and Heaven.
Then again, as a naturalist, Attenborough has no need to regard any of that stuff. He's here for life in all its rawness.
HaoWenXiang 2 months ago
religion preys upon the weak! as it did my sister and if I did believe in all that nonsense I would say that the bible is the work of the devil.
TheSulphuric 2 months ago
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ElenoraGLADD 2 months ago
@standingontruth1 about the part of your comment. I don't think people should watch a movie to decide on a matter as big as abortion.
phil84mufc 2 months ago
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Have u lied? Have u stolen? Jesus said if you look at a woman with lust you have committed adultery with her in your heart. have u done that?
If God judge’s u by the Ten Commandments will u be innocent or guilty? Heaven or Hell? Does this concern you?
Do u need a Savior from your sins?
Jesus (The Son of God)came, lived a sinless life, died on the cross (for our sins) and rose again on the third day.
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if you are interested in abortion or thinking of having one watch 180 movie
standingontruth1 2 months ago in playlist Can science and religion coexist?
Sir David Attenborough is a supreme genius of humanity. He is a human that sometimes makes me proud to be a human. Yes sometimes i despise humanity and its ways but David Attenborough gives me hope.
godfather95666 2 months ago
i advice everyone to search science and the quran
ahmed19225 2 months ago
@ahmed19225 the Quran is very useful as toliet paper as it tell you about bloodshed and how to stone people to death
GrandMasterKai 1 month ago
israelsocratus 2 months ago
it funny how the title is ''science & religion'' and not ''science vs. religion''
callmemarcer 2 months ago
genius...........................
RRRRRFONG 3 months ago in playlist More videos from BBCWorldwide 17
the dude has enlightened the world.A truly great man and a hero
robotica71 3 months ago 46
@fearghal10 again mate you're talking nonsense. The fossil record goes back a lot further than 600,000 years. Stone age tools have been found that are older than 600,000 years. You're well out. And life began approximately 3.5 billion years ago.
phil84mufc 3 months ago
@Phil84mufc yeah, I got my numbers mixed up, single cellular organisms are thought to have emerged 2 or 3 billion years ago. The fossil record goes back about six hundred thousand years.
fearghal10 3 months ago
brilliant
luxfair 3 months ago
what is the documentary that he was talking about ?
ThaKidFrankiee 3 months ago
@ThaKidFrankiee He isnt talking about a single documentry - this is Sir David Attenborough - who's Britain's longest serving Natural History Broadcaster! He's mainly talking in general - but the monkey scene is probably either Living Planet (BBC Series) or possible Life on Earth - it looks like one of his 70's epics on British TV
ianww8 3 months ago
@ngimangi is it not easy enough to imagine a dog coming from a mouse like thing if it went mouse -- shrew -- rat -- ferret -- stoat -- wolverine -- wolf. You just have to think about it in terms of geological time, and it is entirely feasible.
fearghal10 3 months ago
@ngimangi but species are just labels we apply to groups, they don't represent some kind of unsurpassable boundary. I'll make it simple enough; 600000 years ago single cellular organisms formed. From there it went (more or less) algae -- basic plants -- jellyfish -- fish -- insects -- (from other fish at a later date) amphibians -- reptiles -- mammals -- (from other reptiles) birds.
fearghal10 3 months ago
@fearghal10 Ha ha ha ha. Is six hundred thousand the biggest number you could think of? because it certainly isn't when single cell organisms first appeared! Before trying to educate others pal you need to brush up a little on your own knowledge.
phil84mufc 3 months ago
@ngimangi it is a perfectly good explanation, natural selection applied over time equals evolution. Our journey from single cellular organism to what we are now simply happened over a near inconceivable period of time. By all means, point out the holes
fearghal10 4 months ago
@fearghal10 Hi there. The point is that natural selection over time does not equal single celled organisms to you and me. I dont know if you get what i'm saying - take dogs for example - they all descend from a common ancestor but what do they all have in common? - they are all dogs!!!! ( they have not drastically changed into another species...) Natural selection is highly dependent on the environment. Take Darwins finches, the short beaked ones died - this is not evolution on the grand scale..
ngimangi 3 months ago
The arrogance of Christians have never ceased to amuse. They always try to pick a fight when no one is picking on them. While others are fine or indifferent with the Christians, they themselves are not. It was my decision long time ago to not believe in the bible, but unlike those who do believe in it, I don't waste my time trying to prove something that I have never intellectually questioned.
Life is already too short for such a beautiful world. Don't waste it on arguing with Christians.
lefan23 4 months ago
@lefan23 what are you living for and what is the proof its true?
ngimangi 4 months ago
@ngimangi
1. I live for my loved ones. I live for gratitude for their love and the responsibility for them. I live for the constant excitement of what this world has offered and the possibilities it holds. And I live for making it a better for the next generation.
2. I can run repeated experiments with peas in my garden and achieve consistent results as natural selection would predict. I can't run any experiments based any religious texts have any significant results. Other than common themes.
lefan23 4 months ago
@lefan23 hi and thankyou for your answer. What i think is missing is why? what is the point? what drives you to do that? i get that you are curious about the universe as am i ....but if we are all thereis(the material universe), we can only accurately attest to what we can observe then if thats true i'm hitting the nearest strip club and robbing a couple of banks on the way. The human consequences of these actions are irrelevant (arrest, jail) because when you die that's it...whos with me? NOT
ngimangi 3 months ago
@junglejargon evolution does not work so quickly to achieve all we see today, it must have taken much, much longer. What you have to understand is that evolution is not a force to an end, not something you can choose to believe in or not, it is the logical outcome of genetics. If you have bigger fins you can swim faster, so you will go longer without starving or being eaten and will therefore have more time in which to have more babies who will carry the big fin gene. It's a beautifully simple
fearghal10 4 months ago
@fearghal10 you are describing natural selection. This is not a valid mechanism for evolution on a grand scale (singel cell to u and me) neither is mutations....
ngimangi 4 months ago
@ngimangi show us an optional valid mechanism and explain why it is a better explanation for the development of living systems. I imagine that if evidence is a must for you, you would never believe in 3 day old corpses becoming reanimated (Jesus Christ in the Bible), life after death or divine creation. There's a huge lack of evidence for those things!
grouchyarchie 4 months ago
@grouchyarchie simple the eye witness accounts that attest to the resurrection. 120 saw him alive. The romans did a good job at killing him as they always did with crucifixion. What more do you want?
ngimangi 4 months ago
@ngimangi Thank you for responding in the way you did! You didn't insult me or my intelligence and I wish there were more of this level of conversation on the posts. I think we differ in what we consider to be good evidence. If you've ever seen a children's game called Chinese Whispers you can see why eyewitness testimony becomes diluted over time. Scientific methods are much more rigorous and precise. I was only pointing out the difference in the quantity and quality of evidence.
grouchyarchie 4 months ago
@grouchyarchie and i am sorry if i have said some things in a rude way. i try to be as logical as i can and make intelligent comments! even if a man rising from the dead after 3 days is baloney! :) calm discussion is what i want - i do not claim to have all the answers! all the best
ngimangi 3 months ago
@ngimangi I didn't think of you as rude at all, and I think we all benefit from learning ideas that don't agree with our worldview. These are important questions about who we are! As far as the 3 days go, I personally think it is unlikely. In science, the smart ones never say this or that is impossible. That's a great way to get into trouble! It is refreshing that we differ and haven't stooped to flaming one another. I'll try to stay in touch. Take care :)
grouchyarchie 3 months ago
ngimangi - Sorry, had only 14 characters remaining! Forgot to ask what you think is an optional valid mechanism which not only explains the complexity and diversity of living systems, but can also make predictions about what we can expect to find, both new and extinct. Would very much like to know what evidence there is as well. Take care :)
grouchyarchie 4 months ago
@junglejargon you cannot be serious! You yourself believe in evolution, think about it: you believe that all humans alive today are descended from Noah, correct? Well you also acknowledge that there are dozens of races of humans, thus you believe in evolution as they had to evolve from one man. Once you see this how can it be that hard to consider all life we see today evolving from a tiny handful of common ancestors. How long ago do you think this flood was? 3000 odd years? Well that can't be,
fearghal10 4 months ago
Evolution is far from true. Mutations do not even order anything.
There is no evidence of evolution and there is observable evidence that all our digitally ordered functions have a Maker.
watch?v=qZev7hb40uk
Stop using strawman arguments to support your pathetic belief that objects and mutations order things. Evolution does not happen so it can never be proven.
watch?v=qZev7hb40uk
You should be banned from schools. Your belief that mutations order things is baseless.
watch?v=qZev7hb40uk
JungleJargon 4 months ago
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Anyways, I'm not going to continue a useless debate with a small army so don't even bother replying. I know that I will not follow the world because the majority isn't always right. The MAJORITY didn't follow Christ. Better to die and find out I was right than die and discover I was wrong. 1 Tim. 2:4-5, Ps. 97:6, Ps. 19-1.
Noremorse10 4 months ago
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Noremorse10 4 months ago
Evolution is a lie and there is no proof of it. People should be a little offended when referred to as advanced apes. Animals are afraid of man because of Adam and Eve. The world as it is now is not what it was meant to be. Is that God's fault? No. You would have done the same in The Garden.
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Demonairing 4 months ago
@Demonairing No I did not grow up with anything crammed down my throat. I have spent a lot of time thinking about the universe, life, death and spiritual things. Man is not as far along as he thinks he is. He is not improving in any way. Man is only on the decline. And the more he thinks he can explain all universe and creation and the more he outright rejects his creator, the further he will fall. Yes the church has shed much blood but that certain church is not the one created by Christ.
Noremorse10 4 months ago
@Noremorse10 How is man not improving? What, in your opinion, would constitute an improving humanity? You also presume to know how the world should be. The world is what people make it.
And, btw, evolution is as good as fact when you look at the evidence, whereas believe in God is 100% speculative. The existence of God does not follow from the existence of the universe, one cannot assume simply because the universe and life exist that a God must exist in order to have created it.
raptic 4 months ago
@raptic Well that's where you have the free will to reject the bible or accept it. But it clearly testifies to His creation and there is much to observe in scientific proof of creation but of course any evolutionist will just laugh and toss it away.. Do you really need to know what an improving humanity should be? Have you seen the world lately? I will just say this, we are made to serve and seek His will.
Noremorse10 4 months ago
@Noremorse10
didnt say anything was cramed down your throat and if you asked anyone researching the universe and humans they will tell you we no next to nothing of the universe and we are nothing special.
I highly dout you have spent alot of time thinking about the universe or anything widely spiritual as both your comments are extreamly narow minded. i dont care if your a slug or a extreamest i just hope you try to better yourself and that means opening your mind to what is infront of you.
Demonairing 4 months ago
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Demonairing 4 months ago
@Demonairing Way to be stereotypical, just like almost every other evolutionist, calling me a "flat earther" etc. I don't care, have a nice day.
Noremorse10 4 months ago
@Noremorse10 i dont know what a evolutionist is and i didnt call you a flat earther. labels divide people and make judging them easyer, this is a step backwords for everyone.
im gona remove some comments from here as im geting pm's from people telling me im going to hell for not beliving and that i must be some jew nigger the nazzi's missed and if they new were i lived they would take me out and shot me in the head cos thats what they do with people like me and all sorts of terrible things.
Demonairing 4 months ago
@Demonairing Well that's just messed up that people would waste their time like that. Just ignore it ;D
Noremorse10 4 months ago
@Demonairing Please tell me who they are. I would love for them to come to South Africa. Beat there faggot christian faces in.
andrewkeen24 3 months ago
@Demonairing I have no problem with you not replying, because the bottom line is, I can never convince people like you and you will never convince me. Mainly because I have seen mountains moved in my life and the lives of others. Changes and things done to people that can only mean that Christ is real and the Holy Spirit works on people. Don't tell me about making the world a better place when I know some empty, humanist doctrine that's just another religion will not be that change.
Noremorse10 4 months ago
@Noremorse10 Not all thinking is reasoning or worth anything. That's probably your problem right there.
And for the record: Christ DIDN'T create a church.
Ahabite 4 months ago
@Ahabite Actually he did. We are called Christians and Baptists, names given by those who persecuted those who were followers of Christ's teachings. Those BAPTISTS in the river. Those CHRISTIANS following the lunatic claiming to be The Messiah. The Baptist church that teaches the KJV, the only bible which can't be proven contradictory.. and those who sit and try and make these claims are pulling verse out of context and simply do not understand.
Noremorse10 4 months ago
@Noremorse10 You're either completely fucking retarded or just brainwashed. Either way I hope for your sake that you one day escape the cult.
andrewkeen24 3 months ago
We are the universe experiencing itself.
JaKaRe36 4 months ago
I admire God for having created that worm as well and given us the intelligence to avoid it and the ability to help that boy.
fourteatwo 4 months ago
@fourteatwo lol god did not create a worm you fool, evolution and natural selection did, look at the evidence - where is yours?
dangersdnb 4 months ago
@dangersdnb
Looks like you had that worm in your eye already, blind on both eyes. Why am I a fool? If you call the cause of the universe God then logically it created everything incl. evolution. Now if you confuse that with the explanation of God by some obsessive fundamentalist theists or atheists you are blind to the logic that the concept of God represents. U should know that he does not sit in the clouds to watch us. The bit that watches you is the logic inside u - if you have some
fourteatwo 4 months ago
david, the bible explains why the world is messed up. short answer is: the devil.
J41mEV4rG45 4 months ago
@J41mEV4rG45 really? but the harry potter canonical books say it was Voldemort.
leptismagna10 4 months ago
@leptismagna10 lmao
J41mEV4rG45 4 months ago
Face it religious people , tgeir is to many videos on youtube to prove that god does not exist
teddyl65 5 months ago
The irony of all irony is that even though Attenborough is an atheist, religious people actually use his videos to prove that God exists......
anneeq008 5 months ago
so basically, david is all about utopia - the imaginary world where everything is perfect, no diseases, no deaths, no wars, only peace and love. well david there is such a place, but its not this 1, this world is a place where we are all tested for faith and stamina. u get through that test, u go to utopia = heaven, meanwhile, those amazing views of nature we see is actually a proof of the almighty power, like it or not.,
nadine89er 5 months ago
@nadine89er yes but theres that omnipotence dilemma not to mention the benevolence question...
skydome29 5 months ago
@nadine89er he is saying the exact opposite you fool. this world is not one created by an all-loving all-powerful god. he is saying that it would be a utopia if it was.
the fact that this world isn't a utopia is inconsistent with the existence of a god of any kind. only in fictional universes maybe, but not this one :)
leptismagna10 4 months ago
@leptismagna10 what i meant u fool that he wants planet earth to be heaven not thinking that our lives on this planet r simply a test to go to that utopia he's asking for.
well then how was this whole world in every amazing and sad and extremely miraculous things included existed ?? a mere coincidence? of course not, the mighty god has created this whole thing and those creatures. i mean how can u not believe in god ! its like ur saying a ship built its own self !
nadine89er 4 months ago
I WANT to believe in a god and an afterlife. But Earth is a horrible merciless place. The more one knows about the world, the more impossible it is to believe in 'god'.
limbdarkening 5 months ago
stupid idiot god. proof god idiot
RRRRRFONG 5 months ago
To distort reality, thats reliogion's job.
RzzRBladez 5 months ago 12
I love this guy.
thedutchman01 5 months ago
God created the butthole, but I create the shit.
LostManSays 5 months ago 2
@DawkinsForWeAreMany i didnt ask any questions there, did i?
TheRealLaugh99 6 months ago
I think it is God, an Absolute
JadwigaAnna 6 months ago
Sir David Attenborough is smart enough to be an atheist! This guy is a wildlife legend!
Jomacov 6 months ago 14
@Jomacov David Attenborough is an agnostic not an athiest, and what do you mean "is smart enough to be an atheist". Are only athiests smart?
MetalBru01 3 months ago
@MetalBru01 Ok I thought he was an atheist, if hes not my apologies. Do I think only athiests are smart? Obviously not but I do think they're the smartest as far as the existence of God goes.
Jomacov 3 months ago
@Jomacov Meh, fair enough.
MetalBru01 3 months ago
@DawkinsForWeAreMany I dont know what your talking about but you said "like a true, ungrateful, small minded atheist" thats just fucking rude. Your stereotyping atheists with different beliefs even though you dont know them, and id say you dont know shit about medicine so you cant say " we'd have far more medicine". Treat others how you'd like to be treated, you should know that.
TheRealLaugh99 6 months ago 3
@DawkinsForWeAreMany Why are you so angry? Is your dick small or something? Don't come to this house comparing medicine and art. One is important, life saving, and the other is metaphorically life saving. It's not the same shit, dumbass.
What kind of response did you expect when you give such a shit-for-brains answer like "Duhhhh, he inspires art." Wtf is wrong with you? Where your parents brother and sister?
IceTeaEdwin 6 months ago
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IceTeaEdwin 6 months ago
@DawkinsForWeAreMany Is that the best He could inspire? There's inspiration in everything, for artists.
IceTeaEdwin 6 months ago
just goes to prove that believers choose to live in a world of their own and censoring REALITY is perfectly alright, take a look at what they're trying to do in science classes!
eternalcrumpet 6 months ago
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@realskpetic "LOL, you actually believe that Quran has scientific facts?"
Having problems recognizing sarcasm and arguments? What do you think I mean by "but pick 7 and it fits.", "That's like saying the vital role of people is being supported by chairs"? and "With that mind-set, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy."
Why do you think I put "scientific facts" between quotes? dear oh dear...
Belgianmeth 6 months ago
speak the truth david
MrBoxxed 6 months ago
Some "scientific facts" in quran:
"He wraps the night up in the day, and wraps the day up in the night" that clearly means that earth is round, right?
7 atmospheric layers; it's really 5 main layers or 9 subdivided, but pick 7 and it fits.
Isostasy: "We placed firmly embedded mountains on the earth, so it would not move under them" They call isostasy "This vital role of mountains". That's like saying the vital role of people is being supported by chairs or something..
and list goes on and on ..
Belgianmeth 6 months ago
@Belgianmeth one more:
"He has let loose the two seas, converging together, with a barrier between them they do not break through." That's the strait of Gibraltar they say: "the waters of neighboring seas do not mix". They refer to the difference in salinity, which actually causes a constant bottom stream out, and top stream in. "a barrier they do not break through"??
Muslims believe the quran is full of science facts unknown at the time. With that mind-set, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Belgianmeth 6 months ago
The old testament is full of symbolism! The New testament is to be taken literaly! Only dumb ass fundamentalists take the old testament literaly. Even the Pope embraces evolution. It dosent contradict the christian faith at all. So it isn't a matter of religion v evolution at all! Evolution doesn't threaten the existence of God at all. In fact many look at evolution as something that enhances their faith in God. Man is still learning, discovering what God has inspired.
damienbrennan1 6 months ago
@damienbrennan1 What has God inspired?
IceTeaEdwin 6 months ago
If we are so devine, then why do we occasionally bite the insides of our own mouths. Have you ever felt more pathetic than "OUCH! Omg i was so eager to eat that bowl of pasta ive eaten through my own face!" haha =)
Phoenix1664 6 months ago 19
@Phoenix1664 Not to mention that the "designer" of man (and woman) obviously planned the sewage system to run right through the entertainment area...
TomFynn 6 months ago 2
@Phoenix1664 You forgot to credit Dara O'Briain for that quote...
thedeadlystoat 4 months ago
@thedeadlystoat Haha busted ;-)
Phoenix1664 4 months ago
@JadwingaAnna Nah it doesnt work like that, the whole point of evolution is the random shit just happens, and things that are usefull stick around. You cant say we were destined for intellegence, because things that only come from millions of years of natural selection. Its survival for the fittest, and the most prominent species are the ones who have the best results with evolution. And saying that African children are paying for sins by way of being infected with paracites is just rediculous!
Phoenix1664 6 months ago
Religion is way to keep others in check, and stop their freedom. Its ignorant that people are prepared to believe anything the church says, just because it makes feel better about death. I was born catholic, but i have no patience with it, or other religions, i hate the fact that the church uses scare tactics in order to strike fear into people. Fuck religion, its over, they had their time, we know better now. The fact of the matter is Scientists are smarter than Priests. Religion is FUCKED!
Phoenix1664 6 months ago 3
Yeah. His analogy makes perfect sense. If God exists then why should an African boy suffer from sickness as an infant. I mean sure, this good ol' white man doesn't remember the fact that the countless attrocities and exploitations his kind have inflicted against the African people and continent are major factors into why Africa is suffering today, but still, he should blame God! It's God's fault after all!
NSnake91 6 months ago
Religion is ridiculous !
CroArtVandelay 6 months ago
A wise man who takes his work very seriously. His voice is calming and easy to listen to. I have been watching documentaries he has presented since I was a child.
SuperBeautifulNoise 6 months ago
This guy is one enlightened individual very very inspiring
givemeblowjob69 6 months ago 4
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@givemeblowjob69 by the look of your name, you are not.
SJGibbons1000 6 months ago
@givemeblowjob69 he's a national treasure!
llTomlll 6 months ago
Atheist .. Who created this universe and the perfect tunning of it.?? If By chance is your answer then If I say that I found computer in desert and was not created by anyone but the sand evolved in to it ..Who will beleive me... The answer will be only an atheist...Get a life and read Quran if you have doubts about religion.. and if questions come to my page and message me.. May GOD guide us
SSGPakistan 6 months ago
@SSGPakistan Watch this- watch?v=zQRG-xsw3kM There is no god. Religions are nonsense.
DerrenBrown100 6 months ago
@DerrenBrown100 Brother I read evolution from darwin to dawkins. But you try read only QURAN and you will think other wise. unless you read it is useless to talk. . You ca not explain my first statement. I am sure reading will not hurt you.. May GOD guide us
SSGPakistan 6 months ago
@SSGPakistan Have you read the Quran in a language you understand?
47saeed 6 months ago
@47saeed Salam brother I think you want to ask this question form some one else.. but if it is me thn yes ALHAMDULILLAH . it is best book on earth.. May GOD be with us
SSGPakistan 6 months ago
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@SSGPakistan My question was for you, since so many Muslims have never read the Quran. I read half of Quran and I found it at best a trivial book. I am amazed others find it so full of wisdom.
47saeed 6 months ago
@47saeed Thn you may fall in this category... Sura 2:18;; Deaf, dumb and blind and they will not understand.. btw have time to watch Dr Keith More who talks about embryology in Quran which is in Sura 23.. But O well.. It is hard for a person with a Trvial wisdom
SSGPakistan 6 months ago
@SSGPakistan "The answer will be only an atheist.." Actually, the answer is less likely to be an atheist and more likely to be someone religious, purely because someone who is atheist is more likely to understand what evolution is and that as such sand can not evolve into a computer as sand and computers can not reproduce, and a computer would be very very very heavily naturally selected against, even assuming a computer and sand reproduce, as a computer has no beneficial traits to the wild.
BlueCosmology 6 months ago
@SSGPakistan And the perfect "tunning" of it? I'd assume you mean tuning since it is the closest word to "tunning", however you obviously do not mean tuning as there is not "perfect tuning" in the universe to any sort of purpose of life or anything really. The only thing it has perfect tuning for is entropy to increase, so if you mean perfect tuning for entropy to increase then you are correct other than that every other purpose of the universe (which the purpose you obviously mean is life)...
BlueCosmology 6 months ago
@SSGPakistan ... are not even remotely tuned well, and could in fact be tuned much much much much much better.
BlueCosmology 6 months ago
@SSGPakistan Often when I hear things like the perfect tuning of the universe you hear things such as if you had a dial the length of the universe controlling something such as the cosmological constant or newtons gravitational constant or Planck's constant, it is often said that if you turned this dial just by a millimeter it would cause the universe to be entirely uninhabitable. What a load of bollocks. We don't even know any of those constant to any where near that sort of precision...
BlueCosmology 6 months ago
@SSGPakistan ... and the cosmological constant we aren't even sure if it exists or is a product of our measurements being slightly off as to measure the cosmological constant to any degree at all, not to an accurate amount, you need incredibly incredibly precise equipment. The gravitational constant could be changed to better values for life, and planck's constant we have no idea if it is or is not important to remain as it is, as it is so fundamental it is very difficult to predict how the...
BlueCosmology 6 months ago
@SSGPakistan ...universe would change if we changed planck's constant, however it is unlikely to be changed much if planck's constant is changed by a small amount.
BlueCosmology 6 months ago
"Your milking it for violence". Ridiculous. How about you are milking it for grandeur.
stephenblackman2003a 6 months ago
life was not created to end in death, but for our state now it's good to die to be born again
JadwigaAnna 6 months ago
yeah, evolution is said to operate by mutations and the natural selection, but have you ever seen mutation leading to a constructive change rather than destructive. Moreover, from what species did for ex bats come? 99% of species cannot be found on the tree of species- that's the opinion of Professor of Biology.
JadwigaAnna 6 months ago
@JadwigaAnna You should watch this video by a youtuber named SiriusMined called Living proof of evolution, Down in My Heart. In this video he talks about his own constructive mutation of having an extra, full sized coronary artery. I'm sure you can imagine the benefits of having this.
rationalwarrior 6 months ago
For me it is quite obvious that 'evolution' had to be intelligent, because it brought very intelligent creatures- by chance you will never get any constructive result. Will sand from a beach ever become a watch? Sir David Attenborough said that existence of destructive worms etc is an evidence against God the Creator. But it is just the result of original sin. It is because of our fall that material creation (bound to us) was partly distorted. Still, majority of creation is wonderful and amazing
JadwigaAnna 6 months ago
@JadwigaAnna
nothing to do with sin. God gave us the brains to deal with it. But who said that the life on earth should be all plain sailing, It's so bad it ends in death anyhow. silly God
fourteatwo 6 months ago
@JadwigaAnna It is painfully clear from your first two sentences that you do not understand evolution.
Bulletproofmask7 6 months ago 5
@JadwigaAnna You are so terribly ignorant and you CLEARLY do not understand the timeframes given in any of the major, or even Abrahamic religions.
llTomlll 6 months ago
@JadwigaAnna
So what then made the intelligent life form that created evolution? That is, if you believe evolution had an "intelligent designer" then what was the process for that intelligent designer to come into being? Was it a God that always existed or something that evolved?
bersaba 6 months ago
We evolved from that?
NorthNorth2009 6 months ago
I hate people
raptic 6 months ago 31
@raptic then hate yourself as well
HidexHoldings 5 months ago
@raptic- Hate is what got this world corrupted in the first place.Plus ignorance and intolerance is along with it.Do I think it's gonna change while people hate people?Not in this time of day unless something miraculously happens.That's just my opinion to say the lease.
bahamiangreek101 4 months ago
@bahamiangreek101 Of course I don't truly "hate" anyone. I dislike greatly the fact that so many people choose to believe in a distorted reality. I'm sure we all live in a distorted reality to some extent given that there's much we do not understand, but to dismiss the truths that science has painstakingly found for us and instead believe in the unjustifiable? I hate that people choose to be this way.
raptic 4 months ago
@Atheisophy That is interesting give me a quick example of the denial of favour in manufactured systems of behaviour so I get a thorough understanding.
nics10able 6 months ago
@Atheisophy Thank you for a more respectful approach. First I agree there is no evidence for atheists that God exists and I know I don't have hard scientific proof, there is no empirical data, it is what is meant by faith! For me it is my greatest challenge. For this precise reason that no one can disprove God , people are turning the attacks on religion rather than the belief of a God!
nics10able 6 months ago
Attenborough is foolish. There is enough food, water and resources to feed and shelter every single human being on the planet. It is imbalance of these resources caused by 'market economics' which is the problem. God has given us everything. It is down to us to share. This is the test. This is the reality,
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mcprankster 6 months ago
@mcprankster and then he demands to be refered to as an all powerful ,all perfect all intelligent superpower of the universe who loves all his creations and is always there for each and every one of us.
but for some reason he just decides to design the human animal to be a selfish and greedy creature who psychologically always wants more and is willing to make others around him suffer because of that defect in his nature .
Perhaps you should stop kissing his ass you shameless apologist?
ILoveRavenc 4 months ago