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there is a lot of bull lshit that goes with this beautiful fancy stuff if u want to play this game i say don't do it. go get a gym membership & lose some weight or do something other than waste your time with this bullshit of a game
@avatarhammer Umad? The reason CCP has to step in sometimes is because they are busy revolutionizing online gaming and have to make adjustments to balance the game. If it were F2P (which it kind of already is with plexes) the game would shut down. This game is worth my 14.99 a month. They just reprogrammed the whole station interface for free. The expansions have all been free. We will walk in stations for free and have the first PC/Console game universe ever. For free. Show some respect.
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@EvidenceFragmentary yes i'm mad. CCP steps in more than a little. they created this whole interstellar council bullshit & they are not even listening 2 these voted in customers that keep telling them the consensus of the players is that they don't want CCP to price rape them & CCP says '' hey we won't do that ever!! we promise'' and they turn around & do it anyways & then some delves go on their blogs & say fuck you guys we do what we want accept it & shut the hell up!! they disrespected me
@avatarhammer And who tells you that you *need* to buy the overpriced products? They're vanity, and they're not any better-looking than what's already there, anyway. It's there for people who are ridiculously wealthy in-game and out and just want to be slightly more unique-looking.
Sure, they could have made them more reasonably priced, but then, ultimately, everyone would have everything, anyway, and it wouldn't really be that unique. I don't necessarily like it, but I understand why.
@EvidenceFragmentary If he can't comprehend that CCP has done more for its players at no extra cost to said players than it has otherwise, then just leave him be. He's either a troll, member of the tinfoil hat club, or just an excessively bitter bittervet.
@avatarhammer and PS if 14.99 a month and an optional credit card purchase is "alot of bullshit that goes with beautiful fancy stuff" then i suggest you get a real job
@EvidenceFragmentary they disrespected me & lots of there players and PS i have a real job, even if i was the richest man in the world i would still be upset . its the elitist attitude that a lot of CCP management have. every year it gets worse & worse.every year they take something away from the game that a lot of us really liked & yes the graphics improve every year & yes they have walk in stations coming soon but i think the bad out weighs the good & i have a right to vent & complain
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@7Kiymaira7 scamming eve players even on youtube? shame on you sir! you should be offering atleast half the amount of the free plex you will be getting from this. say 150 to 200 mil
to say that your giving them a mere 20 million is a slap in the face, when a PLEX is worth 200 times that.
@WaagooshTheRedFox Ok, i'm tired of getting these dumb ass comments. ''to say your giving them a mere 20 million is a slap in the face'' pfft ..please. First of all I don't even have to offer any money. Many people don't, plus 20 mill is more than enough for new player. Secondly I opt for free months rather than plex. I don't even have any game time right now because my buddy invites thus far have not upgraded. Thirdly stop trying to sabotage me by acting like jealous 10 year old.
@WaagooshTheRedFox For a perfect example check out wolfen750's comment down below. NO MONEY being offered what so ever. So why don't you come up with another dick head comment to give to him as well then huh? Just man up and admit your mad because your not doing it.....
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Imagine using Kinect technology in MMO's. You could play the game as you normally do, but could use the kinect camera to do your own emotes, make gestures, ect.
@sininetigu This is about meshs and the lighting of models. Right now it's really only possible to run 1-2 of these at once stable. But in the near future, a station full of people can be running around with this kind of physics.
Also they have gotten basic station walk prototype. The interface, a part of animation, etc needs to be worked on. Listen, the engine the game runs on is 75% of the work.
im not saying its a new technology or that its the prime advancement in game physics, im simply stating what the other person said has nothing to do with this technology
@MrKonradman lol they wouldn't put this much effort into it if we weren't playing 15$/month to play. They BETTER put this much effort for the thousands of dollars they make everyday for people playing to play a videogame instead of playing one of the dozens of free-to-play MMORPGs there are on the net nowadays:P
@SunfireGTX25 even if you are paying to play there are many games ex: runescape (5$/month & wow also 15$) that not even step into the toes of what CCP does for the game sure they are cashing in but im sure that their profit margin is not nearly as much as theirs simply by the ammount of R&D they put back into the game. Also most FTP games SUCK ASS... and the ones who dont are simply not past a C-
@MrKonradman agree 100%. They do more for their fanbase than any other mmorpg or other company period. They are gods in the industry, and all class acts. CCP is beast.
@EvidenceFragmentary you obviously do not play eve. i played eve for 5 years every single year despite protests from over 80% of its customers CCP continues to do what the corporate members want it to do not the people who pay for their jobs. for example a few months ago they made it more difficult for alot of strong alliances to make their own in game money so they could pay to play the game & buy nice ships & buy nice skill books to do cool things in the game. in the game when you kill
@EvidenceFragmentary these (non-player-characters) pirates known as rats you used to be able to make good money killing them now ccp has make it really hard to make money doing that & you like all this new fancy carbon character bullshit . well a lot of the features are going to be extra money & not just in game money your going to have to buy all this shit with a credit card -not with the in game money- so many players were so pissed about all this they protested in Jita buy shooting people
@avatarhammer Credit card? Hell, you're a tinfoil hat man. We should stop paying attention to you. The so-called 'Real-Money Store' uses the equivalent of PLEX- which is purchasable with in-game money. Actually understand the system you trash talk before you fly off the handle.
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@paladinstorm yes but you fail to mention that the plexs cost 400 million to 350 million isk to buy. unless someone is making level 3 moon goo i don't know how else someone can afford to pay for their monthly subscription of the game & pay to buy plexs for pixel clothing. for the common eve player they don't have to time or the skill to generate 600 to 700 million( in game) isk a month to buy 2 plexs with out using a "CREDIT CARD ' silly rabbit this is no troll game but my message of truth
@avatarhammer And you fail to comprehend what I said in another comment: They are OPTIONAL. VANITY. And will never be anything more than optional. Do you even listen to yourself? Read my other comment. Troll, Tinfoil Hat, or Bittervet.
Yes, they're expensive (regardless of currency), but I said that seems to be the point- to make such items exceedingly rare. Again, Troll, Tinfoil Hat, or Bittervet.
Unlike you and everyone else who got upset, I actually bother to read DevBlogs.
@paladinstorm i have not failed at anything you fail at reading thrue my comments to other people. so you fail not me. these monocles are optional '' now '' but that will change ( read the greed is good memo) the delvs have more plans in future patches. these plans include having to pay for items that are non-vanity items that you will need to play the game. extra cost to be able walk in station to complete missions & complete contracts. vanity now mandatory coming soon u heard it here 1st
@paladinstorm whats with all these negative votes ? does that mean my comments are being deleted ha ha ha that's funny - getting censored by youtube lulz . well it don't matter to me anymore. my friends have asked me to help them lead one of their alliances so i'm back in the game as much i think eve is going to get worse my friends need my help so back to the grindstone i go i have taken the time to say my opinion so what's done is done play at your own risk : p
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@paladinstorm i would sit here & argue all day with you but i'm at work so i leave you all with this message. see for yourself the truth is out there & it will set you free. don't listen to this paladinstorm who is nothing more than a CCP-DEV sex slave trying to please his master. what eve used to be & what they advertise is nothing what eve is now & what they have planned for the game.take my advice get out now before its too late for you don't get trapped by their lies. run away while u can
@EvidenceFragmentary CCP has and always will be dedicated to the free-form, unscripted sandbox. The virtual world they've been trying to craft all this time, and have allowed to get away from themselves as we, the players, have taken it and made something far more than they could ever hope to accomplish themselves. They understand full well that we and that sandbox nature are the very heart and lifeblood of EVE. If they don't, then the game is dead, because it'd be too boring as casual.
@EvidenceFragmentary - So many other games do casual space warfare far better than a casual-fied EVE would with far superior gameplay. DarkSpace being but one example. CCP is not THAT stupid. They're incompetent, but not that far gone. The infamous newsletter has been proven by CSM as being far from policy, and @ktouberg on twitter shows all the evidence of understanding the value of respecting the playerbase. He's even in charge of the team(BFF) busy fixing Sov Warfare and other Space features.
LOL you do realise this vid is to exemplify the physics of movement at a higher degree than any other technology has been able to? It's showing the interactions between hair and clothing, clothing and environment.
It isn't showing polygon nor tessellation counts. Details and wrinkles or whatever you're on about is not what this technology is trying to show...
No fucking surprise it lags like a motherfucker every goddamn time I go into the character creator on EVE. It's fucking amazing I actually managed to pull something through that horrible, motherfucker, laghole of a fuck ... shit - or somethin'.
World of Darkness is going to rock. I hope they use eve style skill system. It sorta fits vampire lore, in the aspect that as time passes you become stronger. But whatever after eve I am willing to try any other mmo CCP makes.
hot dam this is amazing.... how is it CCP is able to do something with one expansion that ive been waiting for for about 10 years? I love you ccp.... Now hurry up and release ambulation so we can use this awesomematicness engine to the fullest!!
Very impressive in my opinion. This video displays multiple simulations of realistic environment interactivity.
Although like all you tube videos many people arguing over pointless things in the comments section. If you want to fight over E PEENS, go to a cam to cam sight and do it for real. You are the cancer of the internet. Or if you can verify that you can design and code something better than what is being displayed then I guess you have a right to bash it. (Unlikely)
altho this happned a week ago......VITTO YOUR A IDOT are you not reading what this guy was typing and just replying to it with another smart remark and english not native lang huh?? you can spell all that crap but when it comes to Y.O.U. you cant spell it.....though you spelled it in other things youve typed earlyer.........i cant spell ang english my native but atleast i dont just type U, and that guy do's probly make games....or atleast knows alot to about them to the point of making them.....
look, ever wonder why your female RPG characters never have hair past the shoulders in Oblivion, or Dragon age? Why you dont see any long flowing dresses? The Hair clips through the shoulders. The dress wouldnt move. just clip into the ground.
Load up some of the Hair and clothing mods for Oblivion. And see all the clipping.
It's annoying. and pulls you out of the game.
This tech is a HUGE step for realistic looking in games!
@YankeeSpike That's when they use those games in the simulators in the Vaults, so we don't know that there are supermutants, raiders, and giant ants outside of our door
Not that impressive but HEY! there is one important thing: at least this is how games will look like. Im tired of that super awesome tech demos that have nothing to do with de actual game.
@vitto It looks fake because you KNOW its fake. Your mind has already processed that this is a video game rendering so no matter how fantastic the rendering and animation is your brain will always keep telling itself that its fake, you cant unsee what youve seen, if you will.. By all intent and purpose, the way she walks and the way the cloth moves when she moves, is near enough perfect. Hair still moves a little too uniformly but its better than whats out there atm.
@vitto Perfect in terms of free form animation. No doubt there is much much better pre-rendered stuff in movies, thats a given. But this is in game, the calculations for cloth movement are done on the fly as the player interacts with the environment. Considering that gives an almost infinite amount of situations for the cloth to be moved in, this is damn near perfect for in game cloth physics.
@vitto i run real time cloth physics like this using the physx plugins in 3dsmax all the time on a rig that doesnt max out Crysis. Physics in games isnt as much about raw power like graphics processing, we've had wavy cloth physics since ps2 era (ico, SoTC) its all about mathematical science behind the scenes, trying to get cloth to act like it does in real life isnt a challenge of power, its a challenge of, well, physics.
@vitto as in 3dsmax, the software i use to make games? i import the animations into the unreal engine, which, if you didnt know already, is a game engine, and not even the most powerful.
@vitto as in 3dsmax, the software i use to make games? i import the animations into the unreal engine, which, if you didnt know already, is a game engine, and not even the most powerful.
@vitto Mirrors edge PC with physx features enabled is a perfect example. And what possible information do you have about me to say i dont make games? or are you trying to draw me into an argument because your thinly though out, unrationalised opinions are slowly starting to fall apart and nought but your pride is fueling your insatiable desire to have the last word? am i close?....he shoots. he scores.
@vitto because unless i have video evidence, any claim i make is null and void. if your principal holds true, the reverse is applicable aswell, provide to me evidence that this tech is not used in games and provide evidence i dont make games, youre very quick with the rhetoric, but i highly doubt you have the wit to compete in this argument, let alone imperical evidence to end it.
kid? use that argument when you dont spell 'you' with a single letter.
mind blown? really? i found this video from a 1up.com blog with the headline "Finally: Realistic hair in a video game." I don't know about you guys here but even though it does look good, it really is nothing special. the hair is still together in pre rendered clumps. i thought we were talking about individual strands. this hair looks like it can already be done in games.
@Ahlant oh really then why did it take so fucking long to make something look as simple as this? where's the individual strands? why does it look like final fantasy xiii hair? it really isn't special. it looks like the fucking drapery technique they used in luigi's mansion. if you want realistic, look at LA Noire. that's actually realistic.
omg this hair looks so real. yet fingers can't be run through it. its just a head with some flowing polygons on it. BIG FUCKING DEAL
@stripgaga It's like you don't know what you're talking about. You're comparing Final Fantasy, a game that is 80% prerendered, and 20% realtime with 100% precalculated values that feel odd and unrealistic most of the time, with EVE Online, which is 100% realtime, 100% dynamic, and 0% precalculated.
And LA Noire... Are you even serious? It's full of guys with plastered down hair, as known as the "how to make cool looking hair by making hair that doesn't move".
@Ahlant yeah youre right i'm comparing it to a game that's prerendered with some real time because that's how mediocre it looks. i'm really surprised it took this long to make something look like this because it's nothing special. and as for la noire, i was talking about the facial features you fucking moron. that's what realism in a video game looks like. you can see the wrinkles of the skin and the dimples in a smile. the fright or joy in their face. in this all you see is hair move in clumps
@stripgaga What you don't understand, is that something prerendered can't be used for dynamic animations and real-time gameplay, thus leaving it for heavily scripted sections and cutscenes, AKA the cancer that's killing video games. Sure, that stuff has been done for years, but it has never been done in real time in a video game.
And I was talking about the hair, not the face, because it showcases hair dynamics, not faces. And you don't even see her face.
@stripgaga Oh also, the faces in LA Noire are kind of "prerendered" aswell, as these are based on real people. Which means, even though these faces do look great, they are defined and rigid, and nothing is unified. So LA Noire technology can't be used for a character editor, but for creating rigid characters.
Carbon allows you to create any character, because it's a character editor at its core. In other words, it's flexibility versus rigidness.
Looks good, but I'm too poor to jump on any hype bandwagon. Also, those boobies are a bit small so I'm presuming that at the time of this video you didn't have in jiggle physics.
Amazing. This would have taken an entire computing cluster ages to render a decade ago, and now they can actually do it in real-time. It's no wonder that some 3D filmmakers were considering the possibility of doing a movie using a game engine in order to reduce costs and rendering time used.
If theres one thing anyone can count on CCP for, it that they consistently take every convention of what we can expect to see in a game and toss it in the bin. Being someone who actually is working on a game featuring cloth simulation, I can attest that yes it is a BITCH to optimize. However don't expect them to skimp on graphics because its convenient.
I will wait and see how it reacts in a live environment, that tech looks like it will be a bitch to optimize. I would be more impressed if I saw 50 of those character models on the screen instead of one.
i definitly lol'd at "very powerful hard-drive." and all you'd need to run this is probably and intel i7 and an nVidia gt 580...if you can afford it. not to mention probably 8gb of ram...and an ssd for good measure.
good god... until WOD comes out, any other mmo will seem like a waste of time.
CleanSC400 4 days ago
the music is totally über-awesome
ooOOooIIIooO 2 weeks ago
too bad CCP had to delay WIS due to QQin demands from the jita riots
xXPhantomFenix 2 months ago
it looks nice, but does this tech actually have any real-time animation engine? or does it just use pre-animated animations?
gotubeogle 3 months ago
@gotubeogle
developer.nvidia.com/apex-clothing
edelnar 3 months ago
Great job! That cloth and hair physics are awesome. Just one thing: EVE is about flying in spaceships, you remember that, right?
Nohus903 3 months ago
@Nohus903 this engine is developed for a) walking on stations and b) World of Darkness Online
Astolas 3 months ago
I don´t expect this game untill 2014-2016 beeing optimistic....
zZAD 5 months ago
@zZAD I would buy a gtx 580 for this..
Thet3 4 months ago
@zZAD it's out already...Carbon is used in Eve online, CCP's flagship game.
Daneoid81 3 months ago
You know, I can't ever say carbon without wanting to say it like a pirate.
TheKlink 5 months ago
Can anyone tell me the name of the music playing in the background ???
I can't get over it x)
ZealousSceptic 6 months ago 3
@ZealousSceptic It sounds very much like a song from the eve online soundtrack.
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tr1tan 6 months ago
Graphics great, prices not.
SpriteOfRS 7 months ago
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there is a lot of bull lshit that goes with this beautiful fancy stuff if u want to play this game i say don't do it. go get a gym membership & lose some weight or do something other than waste your time with this bullshit of a game
avatarhammer 7 months ago
@avatarhammer Umad? The reason CCP has to step in sometimes is because they are busy revolutionizing online gaming and have to make adjustments to balance the game. If it were F2P (which it kind of already is with plexes) the game would shut down. This game is worth my 14.99 a month. They just reprogrammed the whole station interface for free. The expansions have all been free. We will walk in stations for free and have the first PC/Console game universe ever. For free. Show some respect.
EvidenceFragmentary 7 months ago 3
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@EvidenceFragmentary yes i'm mad. CCP steps in more than a little. they created this whole interstellar council bullshit & they are not even listening 2 these voted in customers that keep telling them the consensus of the players is that they don't want CCP to price rape them & CCP says '' hey we won't do that ever!! we promise'' and they turn around & do it anyways & then some delves go on their blogs & say fuck you guys we do what we want accept it & shut the hell up!! they disrespected me
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michaelgiovetti 6 months ago
@avatarhammer And who tells you that you *need* to buy the overpriced products? They're vanity, and they're not any better-looking than what's already there, anyway. It's there for people who are ridiculously wealthy in-game and out and just want to be slightly more unique-looking.
Sure, they could have made them more reasonably priced, but then, ultimately, everyone would have everything, anyway, and it wouldn't really be that unique. I don't necessarily like it, but I understand why.
paladinstorm 6 months ago 2
@EvidenceFragmentary If he can't comprehend that CCP has done more for its players at no extra cost to said players than it has otherwise, then just leave him be. He's either a troll, member of the tinfoil hat club, or just an excessively bitter bittervet.
paladinstorm 6 months ago 2
@avatarhammer and PS if 14.99 a month and an optional credit card purchase is "alot of bullshit that goes with beautiful fancy stuff" then i suggest you get a real job
EvidenceFragmentary 7 months ago 3
@EvidenceFragmentary they disrespected me & lots of there players and PS i have a real job, even if i was the richest man in the world i would still be upset . its the elitist attitude that a lot of CCP management have. every year it gets worse & worse.every year they take something away from the game that a lot of us really liked & yes the graphics improve every year & yes they have walk in stations coming soon but i think the bad out weighs the good & i have a right to vent & complain
avatarhammer 7 months ago
This looks amazing. I really love the artstyle.
Here's hoping this is like the universe we had in VtM: Bloodlines. :3
Solarfactor 7 months ago
Is this a similar kind of technology as Blender's particle hair, or something entirely different?
Jeorney 8 months ago
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7Kiymaira7 8 months ago
@7Kiymaira7 scamming eve players even on youtube? shame on you sir! you should be offering atleast half the amount of the free plex you will be getting from this. say 150 to 200 mil
to say that your giving them a mere 20 million is a slap in the face, when a PLEX is worth 200 times that.
WaagooshTheRedFox 8 months ago
@WaagooshTheRedFox Ok, i'm tired of getting these dumb ass comments. ''to say your giving them a mere 20 million is a slap in the face'' pfft ..please. First of all I don't even have to offer any money. Many people don't, plus 20 mill is more than enough for new player. Secondly I opt for free months rather than plex. I don't even have any game time right now because my buddy invites thus far have not upgraded. Thirdly stop trying to sabotage me by acting like jealous 10 year old.
7Kiymaira7 8 months ago
@WaagooshTheRedFox For a perfect example check out wolfen750's comment down below. NO MONEY being offered what so ever. So why don't you come up with another dick head comment to give to him as well then huh? Just man up and admit your mad because your not doing it.....
7Kiymaira7 8 months ago
@7Kiymaira7 because i did not see his comment, shame on him to.
and i am above being a pirate. lowest form of life in eve is a pirate, which is one step up from the primordial scammer.
WaagooshTheRedFox 8 months ago
@WaagooshTheRedFox ....move along troll
7Kiymaira7 8 months ago
@7Kiymaira7 get a life pirate.
WaagooshTheRedFox 8 months ago
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wolfen750 9 months ago
Looks anime
Skidern 9 months ago
i see lag in my future.
Liechengsos1 9 months ago
@Liechengsos1 cause your a dickwad
AlphahawkA25 9 months ago
@Liechengsos1 i see virgin in your future.
ThalassianBloodKing 9 months ago
@Liechengsos1 i actually just downloaded vindictus, it has the same ambulation physics of hair and clothing, runs smooth as butter...
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Patentclient10 10 months ago
Damn, if this is anything how the World of Darkness would look like then I'm definitely getting it.
Master10k2 10 months ago
Does it physically simulate the cloth getting trapped in revolving doors?
Hignetorio 10 months ago 4
time to make porn, CCP
SuperColossal33 10 months ago 3
slick trance, mmm
cool70200 10 months ago
not everyone walks like a runway model. less arm swing on teh lady plz.
rward75 10 months ago
Still clipping...
K3NatCSS 10 months ago
Imagine using Kinect technology in MMO's. You could play the game as you normally do, but could use the kinect camera to do your own emotes, make gestures, ect.
BeeblesTV 10 months ago
They still havent even got basic station walk done... whats the point of chars.... nomatter how hot...
sininetigu 11 months ago
@sininetigu This is about meshs and the lighting of models. Right now it's really only possible to run 1-2 of these at once stable. But in the near future, a station full of people can be running around with this kind of physics.
Also they have gotten basic station walk prototype. The interface, a part of animation, etc needs to be worked on. Listen, the engine the game runs on is 75% of the work.
Sqirril 10 months ago
The only thing that's missing is expression especially with the eyes. (Needs to blink more.)
Without that, she has got the same dead look as a Kardashian.
DoctorWeeTodd 11 months ago
@petelol
im not saying its a new technology or that its the prime advancement in game physics, im simply stating what the other person said has nothing to do with this technology
leo2fish 1 year ago
Incredible.
eatingfatty 1 year ago
I can't believe that isn't animated... hot damn.
mistermordancy 1 year ago
WHERE IS MY BBW PLUMPER MODEL???
TiCLer 1 year ago 20
Brainplosion!
87mathal 1 year ago
only CCP would make such great effects just for the sake of their players enjoyment. CCP is the best game producer i ever seen
MrKonradman 1 year ago 2
@MrKonradman lol they wouldn't put this much effort into it if we weren't playing 15$/month to play. They BETTER put this much effort for the thousands of dollars they make everyday for people playing to play a videogame instead of playing one of the dozens of free-to-play MMORPGs there are on the net nowadays:P
SunfireGTX25 1 year ago
@SunfireGTX25 even if you are paying to play there are many games ex: runescape (5$/month & wow also 15$) that not even step into the toes of what CCP does for the game sure they are cashing in but im sure that their profit margin is not nearly as much as theirs simply by the ammount of R&D they put back into the game. Also most FTP games SUCK ASS... and the ones who dont are simply not past a C-
DaniRockandFire 11 months ago 5
@MrKonradman agree 100%. They do more for their fanbase than any other mmorpg or other company period. They are gods in the industry, and all class acts. CCP is beast.
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@EvidenceFragmentary you obviously do not play eve. i played eve for 5 years every single year despite protests from over 80% of its customers CCP continues to do what the corporate members want it to do not the people who pay for their jobs. for example a few months ago they made it more difficult for alot of strong alliances to make their own in game money so they could pay to play the game & buy nice ships & buy nice skill books to do cool things in the game. in the game when you kill
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@EvidenceFragmentary these (non-player-characters) pirates known as rats you used to be able to make good money killing them now ccp has make it really hard to make money doing that & you like all this new fancy carbon character bullshit . well a lot of the features are going to be extra money & not just in game money your going to have to buy all this shit with a credit card -not with the in game money- so many players were so pissed about all this they protested in Jita buy shooting people
avatarhammer 7 months ago
@avatarhammer Credit card? Hell, you're a tinfoil hat man. We should stop paying attention to you. The so-called 'Real-Money Store' uses the equivalent of PLEX- which is purchasable with in-game money. Actually understand the system you trash talk before you fly off the handle.
I'm done here. Thanks for playing the troll game.
paladinstorm 6 months ago
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@paladinstorm yes but you fail to mention that the plexs cost 400 million to 350 million isk to buy. unless someone is making level 3 moon goo i don't know how else someone can afford to pay for their monthly subscription of the game & pay to buy plexs for pixel clothing. for the common eve player they don't have to time or the skill to generate 600 to 700 million( in game) isk a month to buy 2 plexs with out using a "CREDIT CARD ' silly rabbit this is no troll game but my message of truth
avatarhammer 6 months ago
@avatarhammer And you fail to comprehend what I said in another comment: They are OPTIONAL. VANITY. And will never be anything more than optional. Do you even listen to yourself? Read my other comment. Troll, Tinfoil Hat, or Bittervet.
Yes, they're expensive (regardless of currency), but I said that seems to be the point- to make such items exceedingly rare. Again, Troll, Tinfoil Hat, or Bittervet.
Unlike you and everyone else who got upset, I actually bother to read DevBlogs.
paladinstorm 6 months ago
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@paladinstorm i have not failed at anything you fail at reading thrue my comments to other people. so you fail not me. these monocles are optional '' now '' but that will change ( read the greed is good memo) the delvs have more plans in future patches. these plans include having to pay for items that are non-vanity items that you will need to play the game. extra cost to be able walk in station to complete missions & complete contracts. vanity now mandatory coming soon u heard it here 1st
avatarhammer 6 months ago
@avatarhammer Those are not plans. You are the one who decided to read too much into an out-of-context newsletter- not a memo.
paladinstorm 6 months ago
@paladinstorm whats with all these negative votes ? does that mean my comments are being deleted ha ha ha that's funny - getting censored by youtube lulz . well it don't matter to me anymore. my friends have asked me to help them lead one of their alliances so i'm back in the game as much i think eve is going to get worse my friends need my help so back to the grindstone i go i have taken the time to say my opinion so what's done is done play at your own risk : p
avatarhammer 6 months ago
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@paladinstorm i would sit here & argue all day with you but i'm at work so i leave you all with this message. see for yourself the truth is out there & it will set you free. don't listen to this paladinstorm who is nothing more than a CCP-DEV sex slave trying to please his master. what eve used to be & what they advertise is nothing what eve is now & what they have planned for the game.take my advice get out now before its too late for you don't get trapped by their lies. run away while u can
avatarhammer 6 months ago
@EvidenceFragmentary CCP has and always will be dedicated to the free-form, unscripted sandbox. The virtual world they've been trying to craft all this time, and have allowed to get away from themselves as we, the players, have taken it and made something far more than they could ever hope to accomplish themselves. They understand full well that we and that sandbox nature are the very heart and lifeblood of EVE. If they don't, then the game is dead, because it'd be too boring as casual.
paladinstorm 6 months ago
@EvidenceFragmentary - So many other games do casual space warfare far better than a casual-fied EVE would with far superior gameplay. DarkSpace being but one example. CCP is not THAT stupid. They're incompetent, but not that far gone. The infamous newsletter has been proven by CSM as being far from policy, and @ktouberg on twitter shows all the evidence of understanding the value of respecting the playerbase. He's even in charge of the team(BFF) busy fixing Sov Warfare and other Space features.
paladinstorm 6 months ago
@stripgaga
LOL you do realise this vid is to exemplify the physics of movement at a higher degree than any other technology has been able to? It's showing the interactions between hair and clothing, clothing and environment.
It isn't showing polygon nor tessellation counts. Details and wrinkles or whatever you're on about is not what this technology is trying to show...
leo2fish 1 year ago
@leo2fish
just so you know, this type of shit has been happening for years, it's just simply not efficient enough to have in a large game.
4petelol 1 year ago
You know ... i would have settled with a minecraft style walking in station ... but this will do also :D
Thx CCP for bringing the new eye candy after 4+ years of teasing. :P
davelantor 1 year ago
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soapydwarf 1 year ago
The arms move way too far when walking up and down those stairs ...
soapydwarf 1 year ago
@soapydwarf complaints about the way that the modeled figures walks should go to the girl who posed for this animation capture.
poorinreign 1 year ago 4
CP?
Are mods asleep?
YuriPRIME 1 year ago
I just got a raging nerdon from this...
Teikon 1 year ago
I needa get a bettaah computaa.
ImperaGaming 1 year ago
No fucking surprise it lags like a motherfucker every goddamn time I go into the character creator on EVE. It's fucking amazing I actually managed to pull something through that horrible, motherfucker, laghole of a fuck ... shit - or somethin'.
ImperaGaming 1 year ago
@ImperaGaming get a new PC! and stop whinning
Matrixenzo2001 1 year ago
Absolutely awesome!!!
Yorghan 1 year ago
Great cloth and hair stuff but.... "That's a MAN, BABY!"
buffynajtor 1 year ago
World of Darkness is going to rock. I hope they use eve style skill system. It sorta fits vampire lore, in the aspect that as time passes you become stronger. But whatever after eve I am willing to try any other mmo CCP makes.
Bramendor 1 year ago
@Bramendor You can be a Vampire. I'll be the Gauru looking for some PvP =)
Elthenar 1 year ago
hot dam this is amazing.... how is it CCP is able to do something with one expansion that ive been waiting for for about 10 years? I love you ccp.... Now hurry up and release ambulation so we can use this awesomematicness engine to the fullest!!
Krusnik07 1 year ago
Cool stuff.
Tifatrouble 1 year ago
Will this technology be a part of the upcoming CCP World of Darkness game?
DerekYM33 1 year ago
@DerekYM33 yes it will.
khangsector 1 year ago
Very impressive in my opinion. This video displays multiple simulations of realistic environment interactivity.
Although like all you tube videos many people arguing over pointless things in the comments section. If you want to fight over E PEENS, go to a cam to cam sight and do it for real. You are the cancer of the internet. Or if you can verify that you can design and code something better than what is being displayed then I guess you have a right to bash it. (Unlikely)
cerroh 1 year ago
well done CCP, well done.
Mokusam 1 year ago
Console peasants are mad as hell.
gregor00005 1 year ago 2
Amazing, so what is this for specifically? Is this an inside look of Incarna???
DeltaCommando52 1 year ago
altho this happned a week ago......VITTO YOUR A IDOT are you not reading what this guy was typing and just replying to it with another smart remark and english not native lang huh?? you can spell all that crap but when it comes to Y.O.U. you cant spell it.....though you spelled it in other things youve typed earlyer.........i cant spell ang english my native but atleast i dont just type U, and that guy do's probly make games....or atleast knows alot to about them to the point of making them.....
Bubwubster 1 year ago
ill kiss my high-end-machine when this game is released and provides me with lovely high-end-mmo-graphics <3
d1V1n3d 1 year ago
Needs anti-alising.
simonedday 1 year ago
Realistic? Don't make me laugh.
princekoval 1 year ago
If this technology continues to advance, I think we will soon be changing the fashion modeling industry! LOL
mewletter 1 year ago
This is amazing!
look, ever wonder why your female RPG characters never have hair past the shoulders in Oblivion, or Dragon age? Why you dont see any long flowing dresses? The Hair clips through the shoulders. The dress wouldnt move. just clip into the ground.
Load up some of the Hair and clothing mods for Oblivion. And see all the clipping.
It's annoying. and pulls you out of the game.
This tech is a HUGE step for realistic looking in games!
asorokop 1 year ago
I want to make a house remix of the track used for their music.
EnCrypticon23x 1 year ago
someone said it looks like a bad wig that's about to slip off any second. i approve of this statement.
regemo 1 year ago
they should have tried some headbanging
T3hPl0x1n4t0r 1 year ago
wow.
moonasha 1 year ago
Cloth looks good, hair still has a LONG way to go.
AshrielDrummer 1 year ago
Pong was released in 1972, Imagine what video games will be like in another 38 years...
JohnPhillipsUK 1 year ago
@JohnPhillipsUK
thats so true. and that thought alone is pretty scary. i thinkg in future you won't be able to distinguish between real life and a game anymore.
YankeeSpike 1 year ago
@YankeeSpike That's when they use those games in the simulators in the Vaults, so we don't know that there are supermutants, raiders, and giant ants outside of our door
dracomasta13 1 year ago
Not that impressive but HEY! there is one important thing: at least this is how games will look like. Im tired of that super awesome tech demos that have nothing to do with de actual game.
InserteNombreRandom 1 year ago
computers should have these things with the video games for pc
thedeather5 1 year ago
IT STILL LOOKS FAKE
vitto 1 year ago
@vitto It looks fake because you KNOW its fake. Your mind has already processed that this is a video game rendering so no matter how fantastic the rendering and animation is your brain will always keep telling itself that its fake, you cant unsee what youve seen, if you will.. By all intent and purpose, the way she walks and the way the cloth moves when she moves, is near enough perfect. Hair still moves a little too uniformly but its better than whats out there atm.
biffington 1 year ago
i know is friggin fake..i've seen better animations out there u know. Perfect my ass.
vitto 1 year ago
@vitto Perfect in terms of free form animation. No doubt there is much much better pre-rendered stuff in movies, thats a given. But this is in game, the calculations for cloth movement are done on the fly as the player interacts with the environment. Considering that gives an almost infinite amount of situations for the cloth to be moved in, this is damn near perfect for in game cloth physics.
biffington 1 year ago
how much power u will need to run that on your home...i guess a Huber powerful PC. So it's worthless.
physics on the hair and the fabrics still looks unreal.
vitto 1 year ago
@vitto i run real time cloth physics like this using the physx plugins in 3dsmax all the time on a rig that doesnt max out Crysis. Physics in games isnt as much about raw power like graphics processing, we've had wavy cloth physics since ps2 era (ico, SoTC) its all about mathematical science behind the scenes, trying to get cloth to act like it does in real life isnt a challenge of power, its a challenge of, well, physics.
biffington 1 year ago
3d max is not a game...get real
try that on a real game like the force unleashed..and it will need lots of power..leave that to CGI movies.
vitto 1 year ago
@vitto as in 3dsmax, the software i use to make games? i import the animations into the unreal engine, which, if you didnt know already, is a game engine, and not even the most powerful.
biffington 1 year ago
@vitto as in 3dsmax, the software i use to make games? i import the animations into the unreal engine, which, if you didnt know already, is a game engine, and not even the most powerful.
biffington 1 year ago
yare yare..show me a game with that kind of physics and will believe you. And u making games?..lol
vitto 1 year ago
@vitto Mirrors edge PC with physx features enabled is a perfect example. And what possible information do you have about me to say i dont make games? or are you trying to draw me into an argument because your thinly though out, unrationalised opinions are slowly starting to fall apart and nought but your pride is fueling your insatiable desire to have the last word? am i close?....he shoots. he scores.
biffington 1 year ago
jaja..that was a pathetic example. I can say u don't make games because u have none videos of that.
the only one who is responding to my messages is you so there u have..23 yrs u are still a kid.
vitto 1 year ago
@vitto because unless i have video evidence, any claim i make is null and void. if your principal holds true, the reverse is applicable aswell, provide to me evidence that this tech is not used in games and provide evidence i dont make games, youre very quick with the rhetoric, but i highly doubt you have the wit to compete in this argument, let alone imperical evidence to end it.
kid? use that argument when you dont spell 'you' with a single letter.
biffington 1 year ago
Maybe is because english is not my native language so what are u gonna say now.
Empiric evidence of what?..u just comment on someone else video..lol
vitto 1 year ago
mind blown? really? i found this video from a 1up.com blog with the headline "Finally: Realistic hair in a video game." I don't know about you guys here but even though it does look good, it really is nothing special. the hair is still together in pre rendered clumps. i thought we were talking about individual strands. this hair looks like it can already be done in games.
stripgaga 1 year ago
@stripgaga "this hair looks like it can already be done in games"
It can't. AND THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT.
Ahlant 1 year ago
@Ahlant oh really then why did it take so fucking long to make something look as simple as this? where's the individual strands? why does it look like final fantasy xiii hair? it really isn't special. it looks like the fucking drapery technique they used in luigi's mansion. if you want realistic, look at LA Noire. that's actually realistic.
omg this hair looks so real. yet fingers can't be run through it. its just a head with some flowing polygons on it. BIG FUCKING DEAL
stripgaga 1 year ago
@stripgaga It's like you don't know what you're talking about. You're comparing Final Fantasy, a game that is 80% prerendered, and 20% realtime with 100% precalculated values that feel odd and unrealistic most of the time, with EVE Online, which is 100% realtime, 100% dynamic, and 0% precalculated.
And LA Noire... Are you even serious? It's full of guys with plastered down hair, as known as the "how to make cool looking hair by making hair that doesn't move".
Ahlant 1 year ago
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stripgaga 1 year ago
@Ahlant yeah youre right i'm comparing it to a game that's prerendered with some real time because that's how mediocre it looks. i'm really surprised it took this long to make something look like this because it's nothing special. and as for la noire, i was talking about the facial features you fucking moron. that's what realism in a video game looks like. you can see the wrinkles of the skin and the dimples in a smile. the fright or joy in their face. in this all you see is hair move in clumps
stripgaga 1 year ago
@stripgaga What you don't understand, is that something prerendered can't be used for dynamic animations and real-time gameplay, thus leaving it for heavily scripted sections and cutscenes, AKA the cancer that's killing video games. Sure, that stuff has been done for years, but it has never been done in real time in a video game.
And I was talking about the hair, not the face, because it showcases hair dynamics, not faces. And you don't even see her face.
Ahlant 1 year ago
@stripgaga Oh also, the faces in LA Noire are kind of "prerendered" aswell, as these are based on real people. Which means, even though these faces do look great, they are defined and rigid, and nothing is unified. So LA Noire technology can't be used for a character editor, but for creating rigid characters.
Carbon allows you to create any character, because it's a character editor at its core. In other words, it's flexibility versus rigidness.
Also you should see this: watch?v=c3P7cu4ekuY
Ahlant 1 year ago
Looks good, but I'm too poor to jump on any hype bandwagon. Also, those boobies are a bit small so I'm presuming that at the time of this video you didn't have in jiggle physics.
TheLifePerfect 1 year ago
folklore had better hair,coat and tie movements....fail.....but music is good
gizelbelcoot 1 year ago
mind = blown !
bounc3r1986 1 year ago
Amazing. This would have taken an entire computing cluster ages to render a decade ago, and now they can actually do it in real-time. It's no wonder that some 3D filmmakers were considering the possibility of doing a movie using a game engine in order to reduce costs and rendering time used.
Spartan043 1 year ago
That was amazing! I love th last one
SiNCry0 1 year ago
whats up with the space between the hair and her back? 0:28
ICLAIMTHISNAME 1 year ago
beautiful but probably mocapped
powergi 1 year ago
@powergi good luck motion capturing hair.
Xeiphyer 1 year ago
@Xeiphyer thank you you are most kind ^_^
ICLAIMTHISNAME 1 year ago
@powergi what's wrong with motion capture? It makes better animation in less time, it should not be shameful to use such technology.
Procredonioliostarca 1 year ago
Stop right there, criminal scum!
sawworm 1 year ago 59
@sawworm where is that from?
thomaslarssomn 10 months ago
@thomaslarssomn The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion
sawworm 10 months ago
I hope to god I see these kinds of graphics in Elder Scrolls V: skyrim.
Also, this makes me want to play eve. Except I already know it's not all about sexy ladies.
TheKatIsBackAgain 1 year ago
@TheKatIsBackAgain: At least, not yet. ;)
haxsys 1 year ago
Alright CCP, time to make some porn
dracomasta13 1 year ago 199
@dracomasta13 I bet they have made a few for in-house viewing. That's a whole new industry right there.
NIK4EVA 1 year ago
@dracomasta13 Only legalized strip clubs are on Opux Yachts.
voogru 10 months ago
Was that mocapped? If not, I have to give a round of applause to whomever animated the models!
draeath 1 year ago
@draeath
Unfortunately I think it's mocapped. I have yet to see a single human animation (without mocap) that can imitate human model posing realistically...
walkerk19 1 year ago
that is incredible, rember when having 3d characters was something incredible for graphics
CaptRobertson 1 year ago
Over expensive computational graphics Eve doesn't need and the games that do need it won't be able to pay for it.
beatdownbob 1 year ago
FUCK IT NEEDS NVIDIA FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
why did i get ati
gwftw92 1 year ago
@gwftw92 becuase your an idiot, get an Nvidia GTX 460 and be happy xD
hotcrotch 1 year ago
@gwftw92 ... you dont need nvidia, you need brain, ... retard zombie.. :P
BraunDang 1 year ago
ooh DUST 514! common peeps :D dance with my in the glow of awesomeness that is to come!
MasterOfFlash92 1 year ago
@MasterOfFlash92 Dust isn't going to use this.
Dust is for consoles. lol.
britishguy1 1 year ago
Sweet video looking promising
MasterSengir 1 year ago
Damn nice, although I swear CCP has something against anti-aliasing.. ;-) Good to see Incursion finally added AA, about damn time too.
alangiv 1 year ago
This looks great, I just hope that my PC can handle it... I'm planning to pull another 2 years out of this rig at a minimum.
47MasoN47 1 year ago
If theres one thing anyone can count on CCP for, it that they consistently take every convention of what we can expect to see in a game and toss it in the bin. Being someone who actually is working on a game featuring cloth simulation, I can attest that yes it is a BITCH to optimize. However don't expect them to skimp on graphics because its convenient.
c4n0fjuic3 1 year ago
I will wait and see how it reacts in a live environment, that tech looks like it will be a bitch to optimize. I would be more impressed if I saw 50 of those character models on the screen instead of one.
tddavis 1 year ago
@tddavis
EvE online isn't really the easiest thing to optimize and run, yet they do it pretty well for quite a long time.
sEweron 1 year ago
Cant wait for this, World of Warcraft is getting a massive upgrade by the looks of things. Well done guys!
RetardPwnage 1 year ago
@RetardPwnage Wrong company
05pittsd 1 year ago
@RetardPwnage
rofl
Geitir 1 year ago
i definitly lol'd at "very powerful hard-drive." and all you'd need to run this is probably and intel i7 and an nVidia gt 580...if you can afford it. not to mention probably 8gb of ram...and an ssd for good measure.
sdcurry2 1 year ago
@sdcurry2 Pfft like you have that.
TheLegendaryCynthia 1 year ago
so uh we can make porn with these graphics? maybe?
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