@MrCombatveteran First: "The same could be said of Obama and liberals with their practice of labeling all white people..." Really, sir? All white people? Another triumph for American paranoia culture.
Second: The Tea Party started as a middle class response to a continuous economic trend (since the late 1970s), but has been diverted towards a culture of paranoia and nativism (echoing the Know Nothing party of the 19th century).
You assert there's a woman in Oregon who died because of "socialized medicine" but can't remember her name? You made the claim , but expect others to take your word on the details of the case even though you can't remember who the woman even was?!
No assertions. She was denied treatment, given 4k worth of pills & refused any more treatment. She has to go die on her own. The point is that Oregon is failed socialized medicine. This is taking on the same pattern as medicare medicaid and all other failed govt programs. She isnt dead. But because youre being redundant I refuse to carry on a further conversation here. Research first before you continue on here because youre beginning to look ignorant. Good luck if you get cancer.
"But because youre being redundant I refuse to carry on a further conversation? here."
I'm asking you for the womans name! Don't know it? Why should I believe your story if you don seem to care what the details of it are? Clearly you must have done a lot of research into this subject if you can't remember the womans name. Not my responsibility to remember who this person is called, it's
Her name is Barbara ?Wagner but Why am I doing your homework for you? This is the reason you know nothing about the unconstitutionality of govt run anything: You dont do homework.You vote for racists presidents because you dont do your homework. Because you dont, Youre going to place the entire nation in economic jeopardy & eventual collapse.
You need to prepare your case if you want to debate. In a court of law the judge would sentence you for not being properly prepared.If youre going to make your case convincing, you need to do homework.
Poor Barbara Wagner, another victim of liberal socialist fascism. Socialism always promises to deliver but has a perfect track record of failing to do so.
Libs take the lazy way out and trust your leaders who always helps special interests first.
"You need to prepare your case if you want to debate. In a court of law the judge would sentence you for not being properly prepared"
You're the one one didn't know HER NAME! What would a judge do with that? " No, Your honor I can't remember my clients name, but your should do reasearch about her on the internet. Who ever she might be! "
"Like i said its hard to be a conservative.Goodbye "
Said the category 5 fucktard who can't remember the names of the people involved.
"Give me control of a nations money and I cre not who writes its laws" Rothschild.
"He who controls the money controls the world" Henry Kissenger"
" Its well enough that the people of this nation do not understand our monetary system, if the did there would be a revelution by morning" Henry Ford
"The truth of the matter is that a finacial element has run this country since the days of Andrew Jackson" FDR I could go on and on .. your arguement was just destroyed. Stay blind if you want
Your bogus war comment is what got you a communist for president. imagine 8 whole years of your just plain ignorant hard headed denial of your living in safety under Bush. Your hatred for this election is going to be paid back in spades.
Health care is a bottomless pit of waste. Wait till you have to start paying for aids victims (mostly self induced) Your tax dollars will NEVER cover health care. Aids is a bottomless pit of waste and expense.
It was a bougus war, you just belive what your told.
I hated bush and I hate Obama.
I am not a member or supporter of either party.There is a cure for aids, it has been supressed becaus there is more money in the treatment than the cure you dumb ass, but I forgot you get your views from the dummy box. All I said is what is good enough for congress should be good enough for us. Every thing you belive is a lie. Both partys answer to the same elite.
Believe what Im told by who:the lib media who agendizes elections for libs? Libs scatter shoot all over the place cuz theyre emotional wrecks: go by their guts but want respect for knowing nothing.
Yea there's cures for aids just not in the medical field; natural medicine has had it already. Conservatism is always the better choice. i did not say conservatives were. liberalism is for dummy dependents who steal from the treasury for non essentials. Libs are misfits who want to be taken seriously.
Debt free money? joke. You want the nation back? Then back to basics: Constitution,God guns, guts. Libs have none of the above.
You want all these "things" from gubt that libs always go to politicians for. taking things from govt is your demise.you take = control over you.
Youre being imprisoned by laws to crush your power & spirit. You dont get on your knees it just gets worse, You keep thinking ithe sun will rise tomorrow it will but with more laws on the horizon: you believed in politicians.
Im sick of you attacking me like you know me. If debt free money is a joke then why did it work? Our dollar has lost more than 95% of its value since 1914, the year we started borrowing!! If you can see that I feel sorry for you. Please do not respond to me again unless you have a point!!!
I am a christian so dont talk to me about praying !!! Look at my channeL AND GET A CLUE!
Debt free money is a joke because youre not going to get it. I prescribed getting back to basics: without it, you wont get freedom back. Dont respond till you get a point. Youre not getting the same deal as govt officials I dont want you OR THEM to have it either. Forget the free stuff: get the hell out of wanting anything from govt, its a bad habit.
Liberal this and liberal that yea it = the necessity for GOVT to do something for you. Kick govt out of your life.
Kenny, I severly disagree with you that you think that Iraq was a bogus war and we shouldn't have socialized medicine. But you're right; what's good enough for congress should be good enough for us, and democrats are Marxists where republicans are spineless liberals, they both suck. So, I have respect for you.
Vintage does make good points, as do you. It seems like your both from similar ideological backrounds.
"Stroke that shaft" yet more outdated Freudian psychology from another insightful lib.Libs dont respect life its why they wont protect it. To them life is meaningless its why they find nothing to defend: no principles no constitution to respect. Life should be for free Hollywood is real, we should pay more taxes, should publicly fund lifestyles who contract aids with free medical & abide by separation of Church & state but, still tax churches. Anyone wonder yet just how a communist got elected?
To them life is meaningless its why they find nothing to defend
No, I don't think life is meaningless. What are you talking about, moron?
Anyone wonder yet just how a communist got elected?
We elected a democratic centrist. But right wing wack-a-loons like you think anybody who doesn't think like you is "communist". You're wearing that word out with misuse.
This is where you dims come unglued. You know nothing of centrism. For starters govt controlled ANYTHING is radical far left; against the forefathers wishes of small govt, run by the people.
You elected a communist: centrist my walnuts. Vague speeches of hope & change was rhetoric for suckers for image & communizing industry. You elected a racist provedby his own words action now his associates & cabinet. Clearly a case of we told you so. But in your hate your rush to defiance got bad results.
For starters govt controlled ANYTHING is radical far left;- Social security public libraries Medicare Police, Fire, and Emergency Services US Postal Service Roads and Highways Air Travel (regulated by the socialist FAA) The US Railway System Public Subways and Metro Systems Public Bus and Lightrail Systems Rest Areas on Highways Sidewalks All part of a communist plot!
Those fill the category of roads and bridges i/e public services that are necessary.Police fire etc Waste= welfare public funded arts, education makes failures like you in society. Banking, housing are all hands off but you radicals cant leave things alone cause youre mal content dumb idealists w/ pie in the sky delusions that govt can fix it. SS is a mess welfare is a mess, PO, public housing, roads & bridges rarely get fixed properly are a mess.
No health care funded by govt is not "necessary". What gives you the right to think you can tax me for an bottomless pit of expense?
It's yet another thing you dimbats put in your head that you decided you wanted for free: again.You want to pick from all the cherry trees of life at the expense of the taxpayers . We are not a communist or socialist nation therefore health care is not a right.I said to fix all the govt programs that they already messed up1st. Yet you want them to mess even more up
"We are not a communist or socialist nation therefore health care is not a right"
Only evil communists would think your right to be healthy and not die is a "right" Silly me! How can you have the right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" if you are unhealthy or dead? Why would you believe something so bizarre and out of touch with reality?
Oh i forgot you dont feel like youre evil so your not evil lol I know: libs are nice people because their intentions are good. But libs dont want you to see their failures of govt blunder, they just want you to know their intentions were good lol
Youre evil because you skew the law of the land which are inalienable rights.Those are the only rights you get. If you dont like that there is another right; its called the right to remain silent.Ive already said youre out of touch with the real world.
"Pursuit" of happiness. Yet another word by libs skewed & misconstrued. Happiness is a pursuit NOT A GUARANTEE. Life is not a tv ad. Youre guaranteed the PURSUIT of happiness only; not the happiness lol. That pursuit is also individual not collective. therefore all your irrational hate toward the rich is invalid. You libs mess everything up because you refuse to get the basics. You can pursue your happiness all day long but again its not a collective endeavor nor a guarantee of govt.
But life and liberty are rights. Of course Dying unnecessarily because a insurance company doesn't want to pay to keep you alive would deny you those rights.
"therefore all your irrational hate toward the rich is invalid."
I never mentioned the rich nor do I hate people who have money. WTF are you talking about?
Life is a right yes. So murder is wrong & of the unborn. Dying unnecessarily because ins companies screw up isnt my fault either. So i dont have to be taxed to repair that problem: thats what your legislators are for. You petition them for not what you want for free but to abide by laws & fix fraud. If someone pays into ins and doesnt pay when time to collect, thats a breach of the law. It's why you have representation.
But again placing a govt band aid (new patch on old material) = FAILURE.
Ins cos are in the pockets of govt. Rollbacks are always proposed but govt ignores them because ins co's pay off govt. EVEN MORE reason to not encourage the growth of govt. Lifes a bitch aint it particularly when it comes to running your own life. GET THE CONCEPT. It's how the nation was founded. Placing a patch that wont stick is typically liberal. Thats not how it works learn how to work govt.Thats why the forefathers said you bankrupt the nation when you think you can take from the treasury.
Learn to take care of yourself. Being dependant on Doctors is also a fallacy thats been bred into our scty. Rugged individualism: trials and errors of life is the game, yet you want a guarantee off of others backs. Cant have it both ways.
Lib state Oregon denied a woman her cancer treatment, & that lib state has socialized medicine.
You keep thinking govt is a solution to an age old problem. Look at the Oregon woman who was told by govt socialized medicine she couldnt collect for her cancer.
"No, I want access to medical care. You must be about 14 years old! "
I dont want you to access medical care & told you the reasons why. You must be ten years old. It will fail financially LIKE ALL OTHER GOVT RUN PROGRAMS. Are you that obtuse that you dont comprehend simple language? Liberalism is truly a mental disorder.
"Being dependant on Doctors is also a fallacy thats been bred into our scty. ,"
"Lib state Oregon denied a woman her cancer treatment,"
Well her dependence on doctors is the problem. If she can't treat her own cancer I guess the bitch will just die! Rugged individualism: trials and errors of life is the game
The woman in Oregon is an example of failed socialized medicine. Oregon is the only state with socialized medicine= govt =failure =allowing that woman to die because govt wont afford her.
This is all the proof anyone needs to show that govt run health care is a failure. You dont get it because you dont want to you think your need is a priority above all others. We have gotten by without socialized medicine till now and we can continue to do without it FOREVER. WE ARE NOT A SOCIALIST NATION.
Actually no i dont plan for SS, since govt keeps stealing from it and in the past cpl years theyre telling us that there may not be any. Again a mess they created with YOUR money: spending whats not theirs This is why govt is evil. When we tell you something particularly about govt,listen it wouldnt split the nation in two over your stupid misgivings about simple facts if you did.
Health care is not a right not by govt. You have health care that the govt messed up. AGAIN... I said fix that 1st.
Actually no i dont plan for SS, since govt keeps stealing from it
According to what you say you believe you shouldn't want it to exist in the first place. If ss is solvent when you retire you should burn the checks because it's bad commie money! But I bet you wouldn't!
No i dont want SS to exist you can take care of yourself in a capitalist society. Hence why its capitalist.
Sorry life's a bitch, its just what you make it. If you fail tuff luck thats why theres God. Taxpayers arent a guarantee for your success happiness or a springboard for your failures its not fair to them. Think clearly work harder: do what it takes to make it work. Dont skim off my taxes for your schemes.You can make SS deductions from your bank through your check.
I dont care what you want if its for socialism. Taxes are to be collected ONLY for what was before mentioned: roads bridges etc.Anything else, find it through capitalism: period. AGAIN we are not socialist.You are not guaranteed happiness.Its clear that your incoherent brain doesnt get the simple idea that govt doesnt owe you anything.The more social programs you create the more mess you get; bureaucracy, inneffeciency, higher taxes for higher expenses for bigger programs its just common sense.
I've already told you that "roads and bridges" are the only function of govt besides being a mediator. Municipal functions are necessary. Govt health care isnt nor was it set up to ever be. I said fix the broken areas of govt health care before you continue to make arguments about more govt run care. Didnt i say that every govt program is a mess? So why are you trying to convince me that govt run health care is a solution? It will turn out the same mess as SS AND GOVT RUN medicare & medicaid.
You also mentioned bridges and roads but don't understand that the reason they are in such poor shape is because the underfunding of national infrastructure. So the problem isn't too much government involvement but NOT ENOUGH!
Roads & bridges are all govt is responsible for constitutionally.Society through capitalism for BETTER OR WORSE; is responsible for the rest. Govt is not a revolving door for indigents, the sick, the dying or the poor. These are separate industries THAT ARE PRIVATE ! Libs try to convince us that govt should run everything & runs things better. THEY DONT, & have a failed track record. Health care is a private industry, not to be touched by govt.
At this point youre showing redundancy. Govt ruins all it touches it gave you the examples:THATS WHY NOT ! Read much? Read again.
Police & firefighters are city run not fed lol. What woman? The woman who had cancer in Dem run Oregon who is only state with socialized medicine: Govt turned her down for further care for her cancer. Google it theres not the time and space for that here; its unfair to take all this space for something you can research yourself. If u wont research dont argue.
you said: "So the problem isnt too much govt but not enough:" Haaaa haaaa ha haaha ha ha. You funny guy.
Oh really? they get your taxes & figure out to the penny what they need to repair roads and bridges. Then they dont repair them they use your money for waste ! just like the lottery is supposed to be used for education rofl. All govt does with that money is to give themselves salaries and benefits: GROW UP ! Govt steals your money with every program it creates & you get very little in return.
Gosh, I'm such a failure that I realize people like you are unable to give good reasons for the bizarre nonsense you believe!
"roads & bridges rarely get fixed properly are a mess.
Everything govt touches turns to shi+, "
Because the republicans let the infrastructural of the country crumble because any effort to raise the funds to repair these things involves RAISING TAXES! Which of course is " taxing and spending"!
No, the constitution should be respected. What point are you making? Does this have something to do with your religious fanaticism? Do you believe that people who don't believe in the book of talking donkeys and people rising from the dead have no "values" . What does myth have to do with morality?
Religious fanaticism oh my another bigot atheist with delusions of throwing Christians to lions.
Your hate of God; Gods followers and religion basically makes you a bigot. Im sure you hate flags confederate flags, southerners too. in fact the only flag a lib will fly is a white flag.
But esp where freedom OF not FROM religion is the law of the land, you act in treasonous assault on religious freedom: & when not then likely have puter Roman soldiers & Christians on game boards that you play with.
Poor libs mix up their prepositions OF and FROM are two different things: apples and oranges. I see why everything is blurred to you, and libs standards are low.
Freedom of religion dingbat means PRO religion. FROM means anti dunce. Please dont try to teach, you dont have the background for it: You went to a publikkk skkkool?
"Im sure you hate flags confederate flags, southerners too. in fact the only flag a lib will fly is a white flag."
Because not liking the flag of the defeated party in the civil war that supported slavery and racism makes me a bigot! Clearly I must also believe Germans are still nazis!
Poor Germans. Still carrying the hate torch for the nazis? I bet you think slaves are around.You read books on slavery cry, close the book more determined than ever to free them.Classic lib book nerd lost in stories who walks with a red tipped cane in the real world.
Yep the vast amt of spooks who are gods, all speak to you at once in your head its why you got God confusion.
You elected a racist out of rabid hate & a buffoon who looks as such to the whole world much faster than carter did
Poor Germans. Still carrying the hate torch for the nazis?
No moron, that was SARCASM!
"I bet you think slaves are around"
I bet you think news stories from the onion are real. You can't seem to write coherently or think coherently. Are you 15 years old? You write like a very confused, uneducated teenager. With a very paranoid personality. My god are stupid!
Yes I'm sure you feel that way. Many far-out-in-left-field people would prefer to put anyone who disagrees with them in Concentration Camps, jail, gas chambers, etc.
Fortunately America is better than such psychopathic kooks...
@MrCombatveteran First: "The same could be said of Obama and liberals with their practice of labeling all white people..." Really, sir? All white people? Another triumph for American paranoia culture.
Second: The Tea Party started as a middle class response to a continuous economic trend (since the late 1970s), but has been diverted towards a culture of paranoia and nativism (echoing the Know Nothing party of the 19th century).
Chasing scapegoats ruin nations. Innovative thinking saves them.
jtrafton20 9 months ago
This says way more about Rush (and his supporters) than Obama
jtrafton20 1 year ago
It's simply amazing that the Statists are able to fool so many well intentioned but unthinking fools into buying into their agenda.
God Bless Rush Limbaugh, a speaker of the unvarnished truth.
TsugaC 2 years ago
this is stupid on so many levels
Neeks4215 2 years ago
Rush Limbaugh is an act playing to the worst fears of us all.
geoholman 2 years ago
You assert there's a woman in Oregon who died because of "socialized medicine" but can't remember her name? You made the claim , but expect others to take your word on the details of the case even though you can't remember who the woman even was?!
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
No assertions. She was denied treatment, given 4k worth of pills & refused any more treatment. She has to go die on her own. The point is that Oregon is failed socialized medicine. This is taking on the same pattern as medicare medicaid and all other failed govt programs. She isnt dead. But because youre being redundant I refuse to carry on a further conversation here. Research first before you continue on here because youre beginning to look ignorant. Good luck if you get cancer.
vintagevic1 2 years ago
"But because youre being redundant I refuse to carry on a further conversation? here."
I'm asking you for the womans name! Don't know it? Why should I believe your story if you don seem to care what the details of it are? Clearly you must have done a lot of research into this subject if you can't remember the womans name. Not my responsibility to remember who this person is called, it's
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
Her name is Barbara ?Wagner but Why am I doing your homework for you? This is the reason you know nothing about the unconstitutionality of govt run anything: You dont do homework.You vote for racists presidents because you dont do your homework. Because you dont, Youre going to place the entire nation in economic jeopardy & eventual collapse.
vintagevic1 2 years ago 2
Her name is Barbara ?Wagner but Why am I doing your homework for you?
You're not, it's YOUR job to tell me who these people are not mine. It's a perfectly reasonable question that you wouldn't answer over and over again.
"You dont do homework"
You're the moron who can't name who these people are!
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
You need to prepare your case if you want to debate. In a court of law the judge would sentence you for not being properly prepared.If youre going to make your case convincing, you need to do homework.
Poor Barbara Wagner, another victim of liberal socialist fascism. Socialism always promises to deliver but has a perfect track record of failing to do so.
Libs take the lazy way out and trust your leaders who always helps special interests first.
Like i said its hard to be a conservative.Goodbye
vintagevic1 2 years ago
"You need to prepare your case if you want to debate. In a court of law the judge would sentence you for not being properly prepared"
You're the one one didn't know HER NAME! What would a judge do with that? " No, Your honor I can't remember my clients name, but your should do reasearch about her on the internet. Who ever she might be! "
"Like i said its hard to be a conservative.Goodbye "
Said the category 5 fucktard who can't remember the names of the people involved.
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
a minor detail.
MattCockburn 2 years ago
This is 100% true!! Rush at his best!!
AUgrad00 2 years ago
"Give me control of a nations money and I cre not who writes its laws" Rothschild.
"He who controls the money controls the world" Henry Kissenger"
" Its well enough that the people of this nation do not understand our monetary system, if the did there would be a revelution by morning" Henry Ford
"The truth of the matter is that a finacial element has run this country since the days of Andrew Jackson" FDR I could go on and on .. your arguement was just destroyed. Stay blind if you want
Kennykpz1979 2 years ago
For the first time, I am on both sides. If we were to combine those two ideas, the US and the rest of the world would prosper.
ColCrackABitch 2 years ago
A Rush quote: "Do not doubt me."
LuckyGuu 2 years ago 2
Our tax dollars pax for congress healthcare plans, and they have thier choice of private insurance.
Why can't we just have the same deal?
Our tax dollars could more than cover it if we were not involved in bougus wars,
Or if we as a nation printed our own debt free money instead of borrowing it with interest.
I mean, call me crazy but there is your answer
Kennykpz1979 2 years ago
Your bogus war comment is what got you a communist for president. imagine 8 whole years of your just plain ignorant hard headed denial of your living in safety under Bush. Your hatred for this election is going to be paid back in spades.
Health care is a bottomless pit of waste. Wait till you have to start paying for aids victims (mostly self induced) Your tax dollars will NEVER cover health care. Aids is a bottomless pit of waste and expense.
homeless indigents are endless cost. Drugs too.
vintagevic1 2 years ago
It was a bougus war, you just belive what your told.
I hated bush and I hate Obama.
I am not a member or supporter of either party.There is a cure for aids, it has been supressed becaus there is more money in the treatment than the cure you dumb ass, but I forgot you get your views from the dummy box. All I said is what is good enough for congress should be good enough for us. Every thing you belive is a lie. Both partys answer to the same elite.
Kennykpz1979 2 years ago
Believe what Im told by who:the lib media who agendizes elections for libs? Libs scatter shoot all over the place cuz theyre emotional wrecks: go by their guts but want respect for knowing nothing.
Yea there's cures for aids just not in the medical field; natural medicine has had it already. Conservatism is always the better choice. i did not say conservatives were. liberalism is for dummy dependents who steal from the treasury for non essentials. Libs are misfits who want to be taken seriously.
vintagevic1 2 years ago 2
Cure for AIDS:
abstinence and no drugs.
conservativeco 2 years ago
Debt free money? joke. You want the nation back? Then back to basics: Constitution,God guns, guts. Libs have none of the above.
You want all these "things" from gubt that libs always go to politicians for. taking things from govt is your demise.you take = control over you.
Youre being imprisoned by laws to crush your power & spirit. You dont get on your knees it just gets worse, You keep thinking ithe sun will rise tomorrow it will but with more laws on the horizon: you believed in politicians.
vintagevic1 2 years ago 2
You keep saying " liberal this and liberal that"
Kennykpz1979 2 years ago
IM NOT A LIBERAL !!!
STOP RANTING AND RAVING TO ME!!
Yes I belive in the constatution !!!!
Im sick of you attacking me like you know me. If debt free money is a joke then why did it work? Our dollar has lost more than 95% of its value since 1914, the year we started borrowing!! If you can see that I feel sorry for you. Please do not respond to me again unless you have a point!!!
I am a christian so dont talk to me about praying !!! Look at my channeL AND GET A CLUE!
Kennykpz1979 2 years ago
Debt free money is a joke because youre not going to get it. I prescribed getting back to basics: without it, you wont get freedom back. Dont respond till you get a point. Youre not getting the same deal as govt officials I dont want you OR THEM to have it either. Forget the free stuff: get the hell out of wanting anything from govt, its a bad habit.
Liberal this and liberal that yea it = the necessity for GOVT to do something for you. Kick govt out of your life.
vintagevic1 2 years ago
Kenny, I severly disagree with you that you think that Iraq was a bogus war and we shouldn't have socialized medicine. But you're right; what's good enough for congress should be good enough for us, and democrats are Marxists where republicans are spineless liberals, they both suck. So, I have respect for you.
Vintage does make good points, as do you. It seems like your both from similar ideological backrounds.
conservativeco 2 years ago
Constitution,God guns, guts. Libs have none of the above
Wow, listen to the right wing morons rant and rave about guns guns guns! Stroke that shaft!
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
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vintagevic1 2 years ago
"Stroke that shaft" yet more outdated Freudian psychology from another insightful lib.Libs dont respect life its why they wont protect it. To them life is meaningless its why they find nothing to defend: no principles no constitution to respect. Life should be for free Hollywood is real, we should pay more taxes, should publicly fund lifestyles who contract aids with free medical & abide by separation of Church & state but, still tax churches. Anyone wonder yet just how a communist got elected?
vintagevic1 2 years ago
To them life is meaningless its why they find nothing to defend
No, I don't think life is meaningless. What are you talking about, moron?
Anyone wonder yet just how a communist got elected?
We elected a democratic centrist. But right wing wack-a-loons like you think anybody who doesn't think like you is "communist". You're wearing that word out with misuse.
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
This is where you dims come unglued. You know nothing of centrism. For starters govt controlled ANYTHING is radical far left; against the forefathers wishes of small govt, run by the people.
You elected a communist: centrist my walnuts. Vague speeches of hope & change was rhetoric for suckers for image & communizing industry. You elected a racist provedby his own words action now his associates & cabinet. Clearly a case of we told you so. But in your hate your rush to defiance got bad results.
vintagevic1 2 years ago
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
Those fill the category of roads and bridges i/e public services that are necessary.Police fire etc Waste= welfare public funded arts, education makes failures like you in society. Banking, housing are all hands off but you radicals cant leave things alone cause youre mal content dumb idealists w/ pie in the sky delusions that govt can fix it. SS is a mess welfare is a mess, PO, public housing, roads & bridges rarely get fixed properly are a mess.
Everything govt touches turns to shi+,
vintagevic1 2 years ago
Those fill the category of roads and bridges i/e public services that are necessary
But health care isn't necessary. Because clearly being able to get from place to place is more necessary then say, not dying of cancer.
SS is a mess.
Why would you care? Isn't it communism? So what if you can't get a Social security check when your older? Why didn't you save your money, capitalist?
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
No health care funded by govt is not "necessary". What gives you the right to think you can tax me for an bottomless pit of expense?
It's yet another thing you dimbats put in your head that you decided you wanted for free: again.You want to pick from all the cherry trees of life at the expense of the taxpayers . We are not a communist or socialist nation therefore health care is not a right.I said to fix all the govt programs that they already messed up1st. Yet you want them to mess even more up
vintagevic1 2 years ago
"We are not a communist or socialist nation therefore health care is not a right"
Only evil communists would think your right to be healthy and not die is a "right" Silly me! How can you have the right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" if you are unhealthy or dead? Why would you believe something so bizarre and out of touch with reality?
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
Oh i forgot you dont feel like youre evil so your not evil lol I know: libs are nice people because their intentions are good. But libs dont want you to see their failures of govt blunder, they just want you to know their intentions were good lol
Youre evil because you skew the law of the land which are inalienable rights.Those are the only rights you get. If you dont like that there is another right; its called the right to remain silent.Ive already said youre out of touch with the real world.
vintagevic1 2 years ago
"Pursuit" of happiness. Yet another word by libs skewed & misconstrued. Happiness is a pursuit NOT A GUARANTEE. Life is not a tv ad. Youre guaranteed the PURSUIT of happiness only; not the happiness lol. That pursuit is also individual not collective. therefore all your irrational hate toward the rich is invalid. You libs mess everything up because you refuse to get the basics. You can pursue your happiness all day long but again its not a collective endeavor nor a guarantee of govt.
vintagevic1 2 years ago
"Happiness is a pursuit NOT A GUARANTEE."
But life and liberty are rights. Of course Dying unnecessarily because a insurance company doesn't want to pay to keep you alive would deny you those rights.
"therefore all your irrational hate toward the rich is invalid."
I never mentioned the rich nor do I hate people who have money. WTF are you talking about?
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
Life is a right yes. So murder is wrong & of the unborn. Dying unnecessarily because ins companies screw up isnt my fault either. So i dont have to be taxed to repair that problem: thats what your legislators are for. You petition them for not what you want for free but to abide by laws & fix fraud. If someone pays into ins and doesnt pay when time to collect, thats a breach of the law. It's why you have representation.
But again placing a govt band aid (new patch on old material) = FAILURE.
vintagevic1 2 years ago
Dying unnecessarily because ins companies screw up isnt my fault either
They don't screw up, they intentionally with hold care because it cuts into profits. But hey it's CAPITALISM!
"If someone pays into ins and doesnt pay when time to collect, thats a breach of the law."
"take care of yourself in a capitalist society. Hence why its capitalist."
Clearly if you don't have the money when the insurance company denies what you paid for that tuff shit! . You should have save the money yourself!
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
Ins cos are in the pockets of govt. Rollbacks are always proposed but govt ignores them because ins co's pay off govt. EVEN MORE reason to not encourage the growth of govt. Lifes a bitch aint it particularly when it comes to running your own life. GET THE CONCEPT. It's how the nation was founded. Placing a patch that wont stick is typically liberal. Thats not how it works learn how to work govt.Thats why the forefathers said you bankrupt the nation when you think you can take from the treasury.
vintagevic1 2 years ago
Lifes a bitch aint it particularly when it comes to running your own life
What does that have to do with the health care being a necessity in everyones life?
"GET THE CONCEPT."
I get the concept that your a total fucktard who's ideas are largely non sequiters that come from nowhere and wind up going nowhere.
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
Learn to take care of yourself. Being dependant on Doctors is also a fallacy thats been bred into our scty. Rugged individualism: trials and errors of life is the game, yet you want a guarantee off of others backs. Cant have it both ways.
Lib state Oregon denied a woman her cancer treatment, & that lib state has socialized medicine.
You keep thinking govt is a solution to an age old problem. Look at the Oregon woman who was told by govt socialized medicine she couldnt collect for her cancer.
vintagevic1 2 years ago
What was her name?
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
, yet you want a guarantee off of others backs
No, I want access to medical care. You must be about 14 years old!
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
"No, I want access to medical care. You must be about 14 years old! "
I dont want you to access medical care & told you the reasons why. You must be ten years old. It will fail financially LIKE ALL OTHER GOVT RUN PROGRAMS. Are you that obtuse that you dont comprehend simple language? Liberalism is truly a mental disorder.
vintagevic1 2 years ago
I dont want you to access medical care & told you the reasons why
You don't want me to access medical care? Why not?
"Are you that obtuse that you dont comprehend simple language?"
Oh you mean Abstruse!
Liberalism is truly a mental disorder.
Coming from a moron who thinks that medical care is a special privlege for......who knows!
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
"Being dependant on Doctors is also a fallacy thats been bred into our scty. ,"
"Lib state Oregon denied a woman her cancer treatment,"
Well her dependence on doctors is the problem. If she can't treat her own cancer I guess the bitch will just die! Rugged individualism: trials and errors of life is the game
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
The woman in Oregon is an example of failed socialized medicine. Oregon is the only state with socialized medicine= govt =failure =allowing that woman to die because govt wont afford her.
This is all the proof anyone needs to show that govt run health care is a failure. You dont get it because you dont want to you think your need is a priority above all others. We have gotten by without socialized medicine till now and we can continue to do without it FOREVER. WE ARE NOT A SOCIALIST NATION.
vintagevic1 2 years ago
What woman?
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
Do you plan to collect social security when you retire?
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
Actually no i dont plan for SS, since govt keeps stealing from it and in the past cpl years theyre telling us that there may not be any. Again a mess they created with YOUR money: spending whats not theirs This is why govt is evil. When we tell you something particularly about govt,listen it wouldnt split the nation in two over your stupid misgivings about simple facts if you did.
Health care is not a right not by govt. You have health care that the govt messed up. AGAIN... I said fix that 1st.
vintagevic1 2 years ago
Actually no i dont plan for SS, since govt keeps stealing from it
According to what you say you believe you shouldn't want it to exist in the first place. If ss is solvent when you retire you should burn the checks because it's bad commie money! But I bet you wouldn't!
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
No i dont want SS to exist you can take care of yourself in a capitalist society. Hence why its capitalist.
Sorry life's a bitch, its just what you make it. If you fail tuff luck thats why theres God. Taxpayers arent a guarantee for your success happiness or a springboard for your failures its not fair to them. Think clearly work harder: do what it takes to make it work. Dont skim off my taxes for your schemes.You can make SS deductions from your bank through your check.
vintagevic1 2 years ago
Taxpayers arent a guarantee for your success happiness or a springboard for your failures its not fair to them
I am a taxpayer. I want the money I pay into the social security system to come back to me when I retire.
"Dont skim off my taxes for your schemes"
Like government medical care for me paid for by my tax dollars? It's clear that your INCAPABLE of coherent political or social ideas.
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
I dont care what you want if its for socialism. Taxes are to be collected ONLY for what was before mentioned: roads bridges etc.Anything else, find it through capitalism: period. AGAIN we are not socialist.You are not guaranteed happiness.Its clear that your incoherent brain doesnt get the simple idea that govt doesnt owe you anything.The more social programs you create the more mess you get; bureaucracy, inneffeciency, higher taxes for higher expenses for bigger programs its just common sense.
vintagevic1 2 years ago
"your incoherent brain doesnt get the simple idea that govt doesn't owe you anything"
Police? Firefighters? Do you not understand that I can't do those things myself? You are fucked up!
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
I've already told you that "roads and bridges" are the only function of govt besides being a mediator. Municipal functions are necessary. Govt health care isnt nor was it set up to ever be. I said fix the broken areas of govt health care before you continue to make arguments about more govt run care. Didnt i say that every govt program is a mess? So why are you trying to convince me that govt run health care is a solution? It will turn out the same mess as SS AND GOVT RUN medicare & medicaid.
vintagevic1 2 years ago
"Didnt i say that every govt program is a mess?"
You also mentioned bridges and roads but don't understand that the reason they are in such poor shape is because the underfunding of national infrastructure. So the problem isn't too much government involvement but NOT ENOUGH!
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
Roads & bridges are all govt is responsible for constitutionally.Society through capitalism for BETTER OR WORSE; is responsible for the rest. Govt is not a revolving door for indigents, the sick, the dying or the poor. These are separate industries THAT ARE PRIVATE ! Libs try to convince us that govt should run everything & runs things better. THEY DONT, & have a failed track record. Health care is a private industry, not to be touched by govt.
vintagevic1 2 years ago
Health care is a private industry, not to be touched by govt.
Why not? Why isn't firefighting or police work not to be touched by govt?
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
At this point youre showing redundancy. Govt ruins all it touches it gave you the examples:THATS WHY NOT ! Read much? Read again.
Police & firefighters are city run not fed lol. What woman? The woman who had cancer in Dem run Oregon who is only state with socialized medicine: Govt turned her down for further care for her cancer. Google it theres not the time and space for that here; its unfair to take all this space for something you can research yourself. If u wont research dont argue.
vintagevic1 2 years ago
Google it theres not the time and space for that here;
Yep, there's not enough space here to write her name down, even though it would be about two words. Not enough space, just not enough!
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
you said: "So the problem isnt too much govt but not enough:" Haaaa haaaa ha haaha ha ha. You funny guy.
Oh really? they get your taxes & figure out to the penny what they need to repair roads and bridges. Then they dont repair them they use your money for waste ! just like the lottery is supposed to be used for education rofl. All govt does with that money is to give themselves salaries and benefits: GROW UP ! Govt steals your money with every program it creates & you get very little in return.
vintagevic1 2 years ago
education makes failures like you in society
Gosh, I'm such a failure that I realize people like you are unable to give good reasons for the bizarre nonsense you believe!
"roads & bridges rarely get fixed properly are a mess.
Everything govt touches turns to shi+, "
Because the republicans let the infrastructural of the country crumble because any effort to raise the funds to repair these things involves RAISING TAXES! Which of course is " taxing and spending"!
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
no principles no constitution to respect.
No, the constitution should be respected. What point are you making? Does this have something to do with your religious fanaticism? Do you believe that people who don't believe in the book of talking donkeys and people rising from the dead have no "values" . What does myth have to do with morality?
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
Religious fanaticism oh my another bigot atheist with delusions of throwing Christians to lions.
Your hate of God; Gods followers and religion basically makes you a bigot. Im sure you hate flags confederate flags, southerners too. in fact the only flag a lib will fly is a white flag.
But esp where freedom OF not FROM religion is the law of the land, you act in treasonous assault on religious freedom: & when not then likely have puter Roman soldiers & Christians on game boards that you play with.
vintagevic1 2 years ago
Who says I'm an atheist?
"Your hate of God; Gods followers and religion basically makes you a bigot"
Which god do I hate? Zeus? Apollo? Jehovah? Allah? No I DON' T believe their real.
"But esp where freedom OF not FROM religion is the law of the land"
Freedom of religion IS freedom from religion.
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
Poor libs mix up their prepositions OF and FROM are two different things: apples and oranges. I see why everything is blurred to you, and libs standards are low.
Freedom of religion dingbat means PRO religion. FROM means anti dunce. Please dont try to teach, you dont have the background for it: You went to a publikkk skkkool?
vintagevic1 2 years ago
"Im sure you hate flags confederate flags, southerners too. in fact the only flag a lib will fly is a white flag."
Because not liking the flag of the defeated party in the civil war that supported slavery and racism makes me a bigot! Clearly I must also believe Germans are still nazis!
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
Poor Germans. Still carrying the hate torch for the nazis? I bet you think slaves are around.You read books on slavery cry, close the book more determined than ever to free them.Classic lib book nerd lost in stories who walks with a red tipped cane in the real world.
Yep the vast amt of spooks who are gods, all speak to you at once in your head its why you got God confusion.
You elected a racist out of rabid hate & a buffoon who looks as such to the whole world much faster than carter did
vintagevic1 2 years ago
Poor Germans. Still carrying the hate torch for the nazis?
No moron, that was SARCASM!
"I bet you think slaves are around"
I bet you think news stories from the onion are real. You can't seem to write coherently or think coherently. Are you 15 years old? You write like a very confused, uneducated teenager. With a very paranoid personality. My god are stupid!
SolomonGrundy101 2 years ago
6:50 hillarious
Kennykpz1979 2 years ago
sock it to me Rush :0)
ginaswo 2 years ago
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Rush Limbaugh Should be locked in jail for the rest of his natural life!!
planewaves 2 years ago
Rush should be our next president! for 8 years!
LuckyGuu 2 years ago 2
Yes I'm sure you feel that way. Many far-out-in-left-field people would prefer to put anyone who disagrees with them in Concentration Camps, jail, gas chambers, etc.
Fortunately America is better than such psychopathic kooks...
dgonz26868 2 years ago
Oops! Replied to wrong post. The preceeding was meant as a reply to "Planewaves."
dgonz26868 2 years ago