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  • As odious an individual as Bill is, you have to admit that he's right about the lack of citations and references. If Hitchens was serious in his commitment to factuality and the truth, he should have walked the walk as much as he talked the talk. Bill is also absolutely right that any document asserting facts without references would get an F at even the undergraduate level. In fact, the student would likely be punished for plagiarism.

  • Donohue is a cock sucker.

  • "you want to take it outside?"

    is he quoting Jesus?

  • I honestly don not see how a Christian can sit on national television and say the only people that don't ahve doubts are 'dogmatic atheists'. Well, for a start that is the most hypocritical statement for any devout christian to put forward when their own teachings are nothing but dogma, and secondly, athiests are not dogmatic in their pursuit of enlightenment, rather, they have the ability to rationalise the irrational this is apparantly why atheism is dogmatic. How can a rational man say that?

  • At 3:24 - "An Englishman has to be quiet when an Irishman talks". What a supreme asshole Donohue was to say such a thing.

  • Christopher was a narcissistic asshole, but I love him.

  • Bill Donohue is a colossal asshole.

  • Bill's mind: "How many stupidly condescending faces can I make while I ignore his argument?"

  • Bills face is just so... punchable.

  • "But you have no evidence!"

    Does anyone else see the irony?

  • "As an Englishman, again, you have to be quiet when an Irishman speaks. I'm an Irishman! Listen, you want to take it outside, Christopher? That's fine."

    How can any organization that wants to be taken seriously choose this extremely immature man as their spokesperson?

  • Who is that guy? He's certainly not Irish and not a Christian (in the sense that he should be). "Take it outside" what a dick. "I'm here to represent the Catholic church, I don't like what your saying let me show you what to think by fighting."

  • There's no such thing as a dogmatic atheist.

  • that nice christian irish man keeps challenging hitchens to a fist fight, give me a fucking break...

  • You're not Irish. If you are American you're American no matter where your ancestors are from. Fuck off.

  • 1:47 "This is laughable... I suppose next week we'll find out Mother Teresa considers herself a sinner as well."

    I'm not that well versed on the official Catholic doctrine, but I thought that everyone was a sinner? Literally everyone. Given the whole original sin thing... and the "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".... that kinda stuff.

  • I think Hitch goes a bit too far when he says Mother Teresa an atheist. After all, she did address her letter to Jesus. 0:23

  • Such minds only come once in an era.

    The brilliance is like a fountain. Folklore should be written under his name!

  • "I'm Irish!" Here's a potato. Now shut the fuck up.

  • Please educate me on the subject as I'm not British: why does an Englishman have to be quiet when an Irishman speaks?

  • @Chris197980CH They don't, in fact it's the other way around.

  • @BruinsBest Obviously nobody has precedence in a debate no matter where he comes from. But what's the historical background in this statement?

  • @Chris197980CH The IRA opposed what they called British censors against the Irish people and were believed to be oppressed.

  • @BruinsBest Cheers

  • @Chris197980CH It's natural law.

  • ffs just because your great great great grandfather might have been an irish immigrant doesnt make you IRISH and certainly doesnt mean anybody of any nationality has to listen to what you have to say

  • Hitchens has been SMACKED by God with throat cancer recently for spreading rebellion against Him!

  • @AlexPreachesTruth or he just smoked his entire life; for someone who believes in god, that was quite an immoral comment

  • @Sonicdreamcastsucks Yes, and who put it in his heart to smoke those cigarettes?

    God did! He planned out Hitchen's demise beautifully!

    Amos 3:6 "Shall there evil in the city and the Lord hath not done it?"

    Isaiah 48:22 "There is no peace, saith the Lord, unto the wicked"

  • @AlexPreachesTruth Ever wondered why God is so petty and needy? I mean he's God, why would he be so small as to need unwavering acknowledge and servitude. If you knew a person like that they'd be narcissistic, dependent and pathetic, in general just unlike-able. Your reasoning behind Hitchens' death is so pathetic, I'm not surprised you'd want to worship something that pathetic in return.

  • @AlexPreachesTruth You post this rubbish, claiming to know God's plans and spreading such vile commentary. Who are you to judge and make such propositions? It is people like you, who make the church and its followers look like fools. You make disagree with Mr. Hitchens, but what you post is utter nonsense. Zero credibility.

  • @AlexPreachesTruth He's dead man. & he was not punished by God. punished for smoking cigars maybe... Google god is imaginary or why wont god heal amputees

  • "An Englishman has to be quiet when an Irishman speaks." Is this guy for retarded?

  • Possibly my favourite Hitch moment... "Christopher"

  • Love the ending words.. Thank you Christopher, your writings are BRILLIANT! not a trace of sarcasm

  • its funny that Bill Donohue doesn't like to be interrupted, yet he has no problem interrupting Christopher. Just like with religion on need that it should be respected without the it respecting you, he calls upon his Irish background saying "You can't interrupt an Irish-man" Then proceeds to do the exact thing to Hitchens...what...a...crock...

  • "dogmatic"

    "atheist"

    Pick one.

  • what was that bullshit about irishman and englishman

  • Hitchslapped.

  • I love it how Bill Donohue smirks ignorantly at the end, not having the intelligence to realize just how badly he got owned.

    On top of that Christopher corrected him about his name by simply saying ''Christopher''.

    Haha, double ownage :P

  • For a minute there I was thinking Bill Donohue was Phil Donahue. I was like, "What fight does he have to pick with Hitchens and Mother Teresa?" Ah, now makes sense.

  • When the host put the writings of Bill Donohue on the level of Hitchens at the end there I gagged a little bit.

  • you guys want to hear a joke about pizza?

    ...never mind it's too cheesy.

  • "People like you Chris..."

    "Christopher."

    What a hero.

  • Bill Donohue ranting and raving again?

    Well, well, what a surprise.

  • I think Phil is basically right though - there weren't any citations in Chris's book. If a Christian author had done that it would be used as an example of how intellectually shallow theism is. Why does it get it pass when its written by an atheist?

  • @duckdown1993 Bill**. And Hitch gets the "pass" because the facts in his book are verifiable. Bill's so much as mentioning that seems to be a desperate attempt to discredit the actual subject of the argument, which is Mother Theresa's lack of faith.

  • @imjoebrady

    That just reveals your own silly biases though. I'm going to be suspect of any book I pick up that doesn't have proper citations. Not because I'm an atheist or a Christian but because I care about where my information is coming from. Aparently you dont so long as it comes from someone on your particular "side"

  • @duckdown1993 Wait......what? Great, I'm obviously biased, but what does that have to do with Hitch's content being verifiable? That's not a biased statement, it's a fact. Go ahead and be suspect of any book that doesn't have the citations you're looking for, and then do the next noble thing and research the facts yourself. This has already been done for Hitch's book, and his account was sound. Apparently* I do care - so don't conclusively suggest otherwise - about such evidentiality.

  • @imjoebrady

    Done by whom? Who verified this book? How do you know this has been done? Was there some kind of televised verification cerimoney on the White House lawn that I didn't know about? Why is this the only book in history where its acceptable for the author not to cite his sources? Why didn't Hitchens do it himself? Or am I just supposed to take your word for it? These are serious questions that any objective observer should ask themselves...

  • @duckdown1993 This is incredible, and I thought @TemplarRican was dense. Among the "serious" questions "any objective observer" should ask themselves, I hope you're kidding about a televised ceremony** at the White House, amidst the rest of your laughable aggression. For your sake, before you further make a fool of yourself, read the book, and then - like Hitchens - research as many credible outside sources as you can to verify whatever events you question. That is how you gauge verifiability.

  • @imjoebrady

    Again, how should an objective observer go about this? Why should I have to search for the sources in HIS work FOR him? What gives Chris some special privelege that scientists, mathematicians, and philosophers don't have? Why does he get to write without having to bother with documentation like everyone else? So sorry you can't see this, but in today's world - regardless of whatever side you're on - you don't get to just write off the top of the head and call it fact

  • @duckdown1993 Sir, I am growing more and more convinced that you are trolling me because of how utterly fatuous your comments are. How should an objective observer go about gauging verifiability? By going to the questions they want to answer and answering them on their own terms. That is something YOU do for YOURSELF, not for Hitch - for goodness' sake.... He already did that, and his book was published, and consequently unchallenged because his allegations were sound. Thats far from phenomenal.

  • @imjoebrady

    Unchallenged by whom? What do you think the country shuts down when someone challenges a book? You think Obama was going to put a halt to all government business just to let us know that Chris's book was being challenged? This is ridiculous. You make statements in a book...you back them up with sources. This is so incredibly simple to me. You don't get to just make up your own rules because you're an atheist. Get over yourself already.

  • @duckdown1993 This is so incredibly simple to you because you paradoxically overcomplicate things by circularly arguing the most embarrassingly conveyed over-generalizations, as well as completely disregard everything I explained when you were derailing yourself, very much like Donahue in this debate. This, along with your unimpressive misspellings, suffices to convince me that you're a troll. Grow up, spell check, and reread your comments before posting humiliating things. Good day to you.

  • @imjoebrady

    Oh you maaaad!!! You mad now right? It'll be ok. LOL, well when someone gets so frustrated in these conversations and has to resort to talking about spell checking that just lets me now how much I've dominated them and how little substance they actually have.

  • @duckdown1993 "You make statements in a book...you back them up with sources. This is so incredibly simple to me. You don't get to just make up your own rules because you're an atheist. Get over yourself already."

    Mate, you just described the Bible! lol

  • @richgold1984 Lol so very true.

  • Why does that dick always say he's Irish, he's fucking American!

  • "You want to take it oustside, Christopher?" Wow, when arguments fall short ... that's a witful lesson on Christianity and every other religios cult.

  • It disappoints me that Bill Donohue gets to outlive Hitch. R.I.P.

  • @imjoebrady but on the other hand we do have Richard dawkins :D although Hitchens was better!!

    

  • @shave23 We got Dawkins, Dennett, Harris, Randi, Penn&Teller, Tyson - yeah we'll be all right. But there'll never be another like Hitchens.

  • @imjoebrady agree, RIP HITCHENSSS!!

  • "Listen, you wanna take it outside? That's fine!"

    Advantage BILL! PWNED Hitchens! LOL

  • @TemplarRican don't ever kid urself. none of these whackos ever owned Hitch. Not then and not in his death.

  • @iworkforme

    In your dreams! That's why he kept interrupting Bill!

    He knew what was coming down the pike!

    He might be able to bully little old nuns,

    but Bill wasn't going to have any of that!

    LOL!

  • @TemplarRican wake up, be free.

  • @TemplarRican Are you attempting to troll, or are you actually that dense? Did you notice how many times Bill looked dumbfounded when Hitch made a solid point? If by "Bill wasn't going to have any of that", you mean that he wasn't about to accept how consistently correct and better articulated Hitch was, then yes, I agree with you. But if you actually think Bill's being louder, more obnoxious, and more repetitious meant he "pwned" Hitch, try listening to the debate before mindless commenting.

  • When Bill hears garbage, what does he want to do?

    Take the garbage "out" and put it on the street! LOL

    Hitchens' Jedi Mind Tricks don't work on Bill! LOL

  • Why is it that majority of the religious people (while in debate with an atheist) seem to always have a stupid smile on their face throughout the whole thing? They just look like complete idiots.

  • Christopher Hitchens is dying now I hear .

  • Can I just distanvce myself, along with every other ACTUAL Irishman from this complete fucktard?

  • Why is that fat fuck yelling all the time?

  • Hitch wasn't writing an academic paper, he was writing for the public's comsumption. Putting a bunch of footnotes in the book wouldn't be marketable. Ugh.

  • What a great Irish accent. lol Tosser, I'll box that fat bitch anytime.

  • irony of this man asking for evidence

  • Why is it that Christopher's voice reminds me of red velvet cake? Yum.

  • There is no argument for atheism, where did matter come from without god???

  • @TheJohndunne777 Where did god come from without?... Nobody knows where matter comes from, that is no reason to call in the gods. Nobody knew where Greek lightning came from but it was most assuredly not produced by Zeus up until the moment we found out it was electricity. We accomplished nothing but delay by resorting to the "god solution" instead of just admitting we didn't know and then doing the hard work of trying to find out. The "god solution" is retardant and lazy.

  • @TheJohndunne777 Why does it matter? buh dum BUSH

  • @TheJohndunne777 Where is the evidence that matter came from god?

  • It's funny that you can see on the religious guys face that he has trouble understanding a single word of what Hitchens is saying. Then consequently respons seemingly with no grasp of the abiity to neither think nor talk intelligently or logically.

  • please please flag this in english and my girlfriends irish(she already talks to much)i will never be able to speak if she watches this

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  • "People like you Chris"

    "...Christopher"

    WIN

  • Donahue's Irish? Well, I bet the Irish are thankful for that.

  • How dare that bigoted loudmouth call himself Irish!!!

  • @SexyScienceGal Let's think... Bigoted.... Loudmouthed.... Yup, Irish fits quite nicely.

  • @donepearce I am a fairly loudmouthed Irish myself, but bigoted no! As a society we're moving towards inclusive, slowly but surely.

  • @SexyScienceGal True for you no doubt, but sadly in the last six months your society is heading bqack slowly but surely into the old bigotry. Usual reason, of course - which judging by your nickname, you don't subscribe to.

  • I wonder if the Irishman believes in Leprechauns too?

  • I'm an Irish and I can offer you all a POT of goooooooold!!

  • Did he really just say we can take this outside?

  • "If you handed that in to me in undergraduate class, you'd have to get an F." OWNED!!!

  • 'An Englishman should be quiet when an Irishman speaks'. He says this with such righteousness and vanity. It's a statement that is not only true but can only be held to heart by a racist individual. This, coming from a CATHOLIC. Oh the irony.

  • Great technique Hitchens, just keep talking and don't let anyone else get a word in edge-wise.

    I also love all the very violent messages people have here toward Bill.

    So you all like when Hitchens bashes Mother Teresa who did so much good, and you want to do violent things to Bill Donahue. So, this is what atheists are like...

  • @phil8888 Grow up! If you read the book about Mother Teresa you'll see that she's not all she's cracked up to be, and Bill Donahue is promoting lies, bigotry, homophobia and many of what we humans consider to be the evils of society.

  • It's funny how the theists ask for evidence when they themselves cannot provide it and will not do it.

  • An Irish dickhead, and proud of it.

  • Free thinking person = "Dogmatic Atheist" .

    Maybe he is Irish after all.

  • I would love to bash in bill donohue's fat fucking face.

  • Don`t you just love these theists,if if if if if if if if if !

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  • @leviksu wrong

  • "I'm Irish! I'm an Irishman!"

    .... What do you want, a cookie?

  • @VenomShock If I'm Irish do I get a cookie? I am Irish by the way!

  • I HATE the look of satisfaction that creationists display when they THINK they've won an argument, but they clearly haven't won.

    It saddens me because it's the point in the video where you realise that there's just no point in continuing the debate - as it's not a debate at all, merely an Atheist speaking the truth, and a closed-minded idiot with their fingers in their ears screaming "LA LA LA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU".

    However, the burning debate here is obviously Bill Donohue's genetic lineage. :/

  • I thought Bill did pretty good against Chris here ...ooops, I mean Christopher. I wonder why CHRISTopher hasn't changed his name yet??

  • @Doyler3 because its his name? It's the label assigned to him when he was born. You are a human - so was hitler. Wonder why you haven't started living in a cave with wolves after having a sex op to make you into a wolf/man hybrid yet??? see how stupid that argument is?

    But seriously "an englishman has to be quiet when an Irishman speaks". Bullshit. We shut up because we cant get a word in and are spending most our time trying to figure out what the hell was said. <3 the irish accent lol.

  • @Xellith I'm glad you noticed the rhetorical nature of my comment. It obviously wasn't serious, but hey, thanks for the serious answer. And yes, an Englishman must always be quiet when an Irishman speaks. lol That my friend is a fact! And Donohue schools Hitchens on this point. haha

  • @Doyler3 sorry lol ive come to expect retarded sounding arguments from creationists. Sarcasm fails when you compare it to some of the things they actually say.

  • @Xellith  No problem. It's sometimes tough to determine these things from written text. I thank God I'm a Catholic everyday when I look at some of the creationist theories. Turning the Bible into a 21st century science book has many problems. You a Hitchen's follower? Athiest/agnostic of some sort?

  • @Doyler3 I watch a lot of Hitchens/Dawkins and I think for the most part they do make a whole lot of sense. I usually spend my time trying to correct creationists on why the earth isn't 8000 years old and other non-nonsensical things they have come to believe. I'm open to there being a god personally - but I find no evidence of it. Short answer yes I'm an Atheist. Was brought up church of England and religious family members. I read a bit of the bible and was like "lol wut?"

  • @Xellith Our backgrounds seem similar - except I was raised a Methodist instead of C of E (booooooh, hisssss). I really WANT there to be a God, but there's just no rational thought involved in believing something for the sake of it. I mean, I was a really strict Christian for my first 20 years of life, so I gave it a good shot, but Mother Teresa's words on this video ring out to me a lot more than the Lord's ever did.

  • Bill Donohue = Plastic Paddy

    Also seems to have an obsession with size. Hmmmm

  • Hitchens: intelligent, articulate, well-worded argument

    Donohue: "YOUR DUM"

  • "as an englishman you have to be quiet when an irishman speaks"

    bill = racist cunt.

  • Your not Irish you are from New York. At least you sound like you are.

  • wow that fat ass is a dickhead.

  • i hate donohue so much. that ridiculous smile at the end, thinking he won, blind of his own cluelessness. what a stupid douche.

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  • Ha. I'd like to see him say that Irish shit in here in England and see how far he gets.

  • I'd like to take (fake) Irish Bill outside

  • As an Irishman I would like to put forward Christopher Hitchens as a candidate for the Irish presidential election.

  • Donahue is an Irish-American. As an Irish-American I can safely say that he shames our kind with his ignorance. I count him as the type of fool who sullies the name of his gene pool with his idiocy. True Irishmen are thoughtful, intelligent, and honest- the exact opposite of Mr. Donahue.

  • HA! A guy that follows the BIBLE is really trying to call out an author who wrote a book with no footnotes or citations.

    The irony is not lost on us, Bill.

    And btw, you're American, not Irish.

  • @toribjork10 haha good point , ya dumb slut

  • @parkerthehicks oooooh BURN!  next?

  • @toribjork10 i just laughed, ya dumb slut

  • @greatestXhits Christopher Hitchens is British. He was born in Britain and he's of course been to Ireland.

  • Since when does ANYONE have to stop talking for and IRISH person, what makes them so fucking special.

  • Does anyone else here think that the term "Dogmatic Atheists" is a slight oxymoron?

  • Christopher's book isn't academic, so he doesn't need citations. It's silly to cite something in a casual book. If Hitchens did cite everything and publish his book through academically it would defeat the purpose of spreading his message to the public.

    In other words, why doesn't the Bible cite its stories?

  • Signs that an argument is false, hollow and based on a brain-washed education:

    1) It's delivered with frenzied speed and at an uncomfortable volume.

    2) It's graffitied with meaningless phrases such as, "the fact of the matter is".

    3) It's bereft of wit, irony and subtlety.

    4) It's delivered by someone who doesn't have the intelligence or courtesy to learn his opponent's first name (it's Christopher, not "Chris").

  • "I'm an Irishman!" Congratulations, what do you want, a potato? Get off the stage.

  • @deizzantherogue As an Irishman i find that comment quite stereotypical and hilarious

  • @Howard00Wolowitz As a half samoan half scott-candian with no patience, an explosive temper, a cuddly inside, a love for anything and everything alcoholic, a tendency to walk around the house with a sheet wrapped around my waist, a love of food, a body so tree-trunkish it makes tree trunks jealous and the belief that a kilt actually does look good on me, i agree that stereotypes can be absolutely hilarious.

  • @deizzantherogue I see your racist comment got the approval of other racists.

  • @henryporter101 It seems that it has. Thumbs up to me.

  • @deizzantherogue I wonder what Hitchens would make of an insignificant little sycophant who gets excited by getting 'thumbs up'.lol In your day dreams,you imagine yourself to be Hitchens lol. I hate to have to break it to you,but you're not capable of being on the 'stage'.These two 'men' are invited onto television shows-you sit behind a computer feeling happy you got thumbs up lol.What a weak little person you must be.lol The funniest thing is that you know it lol. Hitchens doesn't need you.lol

  • @henryporter101 I am offended by your abuse of 'lol' but little else in your comment. It seems that you have a problem identifying sarcasm. I concede to your obvious superiority and offer you my place on 'stage'. I do hope you make the most of it as my daydreams are now irreparably shattered. Thank you for your overbearingly ridiculous insight, I will do my best to take it to heart as I reassess my aspirations of becoming Christopher Hitchens. Maybe in the next life. Thumbs up to you. d(^.^)b

  • @deizzantherogue All the jibber jabber that I wrote was to space out the 'lols'.Someone did this to me a while back-called me insignificant and other things and wrote lol after everything.It annoyed the hell out of me to think that this guy genuinely thought that what he was writing was in fact funny.So I thought I'd use the technique.

  • @henryporter101 Ah, yeah, I can see that. It's not a bad tactic as it can genuinely throw the person off, making them unsure of whether to pay more attention to the statements being made or the 'lols'. It definitely adds something. The 'lols' are as infuriating as the statements themselves. Quite interesting, a good tactic.

  • @deizzantherogue Thanks for the measured response-it made me feel like a dickhead for my earlier comments.In my defense,I will say I came from a broken home.Admittedly I broke it but the effects are the same.Now I'll give one of your comments a thumbs up.Cheers.

  • @henryporter101 No worries, no offense taken. I was being a prick, I appreciate your forwardness and willingness to present a coherent opinion. Thanks for the discussion, it wasn't as bad as many I've had on youtube. Take care of yourself, I'm sure we'll run into each other's comments again sometime.

  • This fat jackass would be forced to place the same 'F' on his precious bible. Why are the religiously ignorant so willing to shout ' Where's the proof? Where's the evidence?' when something comes along that they disagree with but are capable of closing their minds and blindly accepting Sunday preaching. Idiocy. This ignorant blowhard doesn't have the moral or intellectual capacity to, dare I say, touch the hem of Christopher Hitchens' robe.

  • I find this Donahue and his mocking laughter so dreadfully irritating. What is he backing his assertions with besides a smirk? He doesn't get around to telling us.

  • Thank you for posting this, kaytheliberal.

  • lol I AM AN IRISHMAN!

  • Another fuckwit, GOD IS NOT REAL. Fear us your time is up live with it.

  • HITCHSLAPED

  • I thought it was Phil Donahue :(

  • @iowntwocats Wow, that must have been a disappointment.

  • An Englishman has to be quiet when an Irishman talks because the Irishman talks such shite its hard to believe he said it.

  • What does Hitchens say in response to Donohue's first outburst that "An Englishman has to be quiet when an Irishman talks"?

  • @ChrisRedfield Hitch said; "It's been tried."

  • "an Englishman has be be quiet when an Irishman talks" - that sums up the arrogance and insecurity of Donohue.

  • "People like you chris!" *insert smug look*...

    ..."Christopher"

  • For an atheist who demands evidence for everything isn't it ironic Hitchens writes a book with no Endnotes or Footnotes?

  • haha religious people get so angry and personal and feel no shame in displaying it . If u really believe this shit why do you all get so violent and and insecure about . you should be happy , we're all going to hell to party with hendrix. enjoy the harps homos

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  • Hitchens wins.

    

  • "The Missionary Position"; love it.

  • It's funny that he offers the fact that Hitchens has no doubts as proof of his being wrong.

  • If I were a Catholic, I wouldn't want this stupid fuckin cunt speaking on my behalf!

    Irish? no....ignorant ?yes!

  • I hope for the sake of Irishmen everywhere that that prick is not Irish

  • "If you can't believe it and it all seems radically untrue, nonetheless faith will square that circle for you." - Christopher Hitchens

    One of my new-found favorite quotes.