I guess that I have never seen a distinction between shame and guilt. I would gather that most people define them as the same. With this distinction, I understand where she's coming from. However, I doubt that it will change many people's usage. A mother will still say "you should be ashamed of yourself" when a child DOES something that is deserving of guilt. She is not going to change the terminology to "You should be aguiltied of yourself." A bit of semantics here.
there's a difference between 'toxic shame' (I am gross, bad, unworthy - don't look at me), and 'healthy shame' (I'm at a fancy party in a bikini and I feel underdressed)
one is a systemic, deeply-ingrained sense of unworthiness;
the other is what healthy people feel, instinctively, when they've overstepped one of their OWN boundaries
the difference couldn't be starker
and neither is the same as 'guilt', which is a whole different conversation
This girl is a slut
KushxOJ15 4 weeks ago
'embarrassment' is another way of saying HEALTHY shame
same thing
your face flushes, your body tingles, you get that 'oops' overexposed feeling
it's how you *feel*, within yourself, that you've over-reached your *own* boundaries
and you can adjust your behavior until your body feels 'right' again
by contrast, 'toxic' shame is a constant sense of unworthiness, a smothering blanket of I-am-badness that poisons every moment of your life
not a temporary re-direct
they should have different names
rbpytc 8 months ago
I guess that I have never seen a distinction between shame and guilt. I would gather that most people define them as the same. With this distinction, I understand where she's coming from. However, I doubt that it will change many people's usage. A mother will still say "you should be ashamed of yourself" when a child DOES something that is deserving of guilt. She is not going to change the terminology to "You should be aguiltied of yourself." A bit of semantics here.
ericc327 1 year ago
there's a difference between 'toxic shame' (I am gross, bad, unworthy - don't look at me), and 'healthy shame' (I'm at a fancy party in a bikini and I feel underdressed)
one is a systemic, deeply-ingrained sense of unworthiness;
the other is what healthy people feel, instinctively, when they've overstepped one of their OWN boundaries
the difference couldn't be starker
and neither is the same as 'guilt', which is a whole different conversation
rbpytc 1 year ago 16
@rbpytc The bikini incident you site isn't shame, but rather embarrassment. I feel embarrassed because I'm under-dressed, in this case.
peggyapetersen 8 months ago
wow! outstanding!
lbodhizen 1 year ago
Brilliant ideas.
ishtapinks 1 year ago
I love the way you explain things!
seethefeelings 1 year ago
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88tuner 2 years ago