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  • This is the best movie ever, it finally puts the Darwinists into the OLD days

  • This movie was a HUGE FAILURE. A liar(layer and Nixon's friend) and a bunch of stupid guys thar can't reach sucess by their own merits...

  • Lethal sub = TROLL

    all comments from him marked as SPAM

  • most abductions are done by the "human-looking" extraterrestrials.....

    That doesnt mean they are really human-looking though. Could be a disguise, a mental projection, or body hologram.

    Some seem to be authentic human-like aliens though.

    This would explain why us Homo Sapiens look more like them then the other species (Greys, Reptilians, Blues, Insectoids, etc)

    Also possible the human-looking beings are government personnel doing research, but that is not likely.

  • @buffboynick

    Thanks :)

  • @buffboynick

    hey, don't be like the government.. they don't tell us the truth, thats why i don't trust them. But you can trust me, tell me about the aliens, do they live among us?

  • @ZZzzzzzWhat

    Everything you need to know about aliens can be found by listening to the following men....

    Former Canadian Minister Paul Hellyer, Former NASA Astronaut and the 6th Man to walk on the Moon Edgar Mitchell, Ex CIA agent John Lear, Ex NATO and Army Intelligence officer Robert Dean, The lab results of the alien implants that Dr. Roger Leir removed from abductees, and the federal FBI and ATF investigations of surgical cattle mutilations in 1979.

    Now, where is your proof of the CHLCA?

  • @buffboynick

    but i want answers from a REAL person who was abducted and not from old texts. Tell me about the abduction, what was like being abducted? How do they look like? Are they reptilian?

  • @ZZzzzzzWhat

    My abduction story is VERY boring, lasted about 1 minute (that I remember) and she was 7 foot tall, human-like in appearance, very pretty, and had a bizarre copper-colored metallic panel behind her with ornate designs, and didnt say much.

    Happened as a child (which was long ago) and my parents filed a Missing Child Report since I was gone for over 6 hours.

    X-Rays later taken of me showed no implants (which is good)

    I now work for MUFON and help with organization functions

  • @buffboynick Don't you mean your 'sexual molestation' story?

  • @buffboynick

    Not every one gets to be abducted by aliens. Share us your experience. What was the space ship like? did they speak to you?

  • and as for "aliens"....

    Here is a quote from physicist Michio Kaku (founder of a REAL scientific theory, unlike evolution)

    "In a universe that is INFINITE in size and currently expanding, it would be mathematically IMPOSSIBLE that humans are the only intelligent life forms in the universe"

    And as for "where" do the 1st aliens to exist in this 3rd dimension come from.....

    The answer is the another dimension. And they didnt come here as "single-celled organisms" either. NO evolution exists.

  • @buffboynick common, tell us, you are a reptilian. Don't be afraid, i'm not CIA nor PETA. How it like to be a reptilian? Do you know REBECCA BLACK? I bet that's a FACT.

  • @ZZzzzzzWhat

    Why take "my" word for it "ape-man believer"......

    Just type in "Richard Dawkins Admits Intelligent Design" and you can listen to your HERO (in his own words) tell Ben Stein that it would be possible for an advanced civilization to genetically engineer us__FACT

    That video is even in my favorites :)

    Panspermia and Ancient Astronaut Theory have more EMPIRICAL DATA to support it then evolution, atheism, Christianity, and all other DUMB religions COMBINED__FACT

    Where's your CHLCA?

  • @buffboynick

    Enought about me, lets talk more about you..

    How is like to be abducted by aliens? What do they look like? Are the reptile?

  • @ZZzzzzzWhat

    Tell us more about how one species becomes a NEW one and why we dont seem to be seeing this in the fossil record (or currently in nature and lab observation)????

    Tell us where your Magical ape-man shared ancestor is hiding? is he riding a unicorn with the tooth fairy?

    Tell us why Homo Sapiens havent "magically transformed" into a NEW species since we 1st appeared 200,000 years ago?

    Tell us how a human gets Rh Negative Blood when no chimps (nor any other species) has it?

  • @buffboynick is the internet from your planet good? are the killer bees from your planet? Are you a lizard or a green alien? Do you have science on your planet or just religion? What about a keyboard, do you have one? Did your alien species built the piramids? What about REBECCA BLACK?? is she one of you? Theres nothing on your page describing that. is it a secret?

  • @buffboynick Do you also have Youtube on your planet? do you use a keyboard? what about a mouse? do you use one? Do you have bees on your planet? Did your alien race brought the bees to our planet? do you have religion on your planet? Is Berlinski an alien? he/it looks like one. Do you say FACT all the time in your planet? Do you believe in Jesus? Was he from your planet?

  • @buffboynick talk more about the aliens since your YT page is all about aliens. Is that you 'religion'? have you been abducted? were they green or gray? are you an alien also? If were not evolded then what are we? an experiment of the green men?

  • If you wish to see the "source of origin" of a NEW species....

    Then I suggest you research "Ligers" and "Killer Bees"

    Both are examples of the process called "gene hybridization"

    Killer Bees are an example of man-made "lab-induced" gene hybridization and Ligers are an example of this occurring in a more natural way.

    New species dont occur through "magic mutations". They occur by mixing DNA (typically in a LAB) and the increasing complexity of organisms on Earth is PROOF

    No evolution exists

  • The only misunderstanding (argument from ignorance) is on the part of Darwinists....

    1. No shared ancestor has been found nor exists (CHLCA)

    2. We share 99.5% DNA with neanderthals (yet science PROVED we did not come from them)

    3. We share over 98% DNA with chimps (yet science PROVED we did not come from them)

    4. Homo Sapiens have existed for at least 200,000 years and still havent "magically mutated" into a NEW species yet

    All these FACTS = gene hybridization. LOGIC

  • (...) Richard Dawkins Notable awards: Zoological Society Silver Medal (1989), Faraday Award (1990), Kistler Prize (2001). The title of Alma mater of Balliol College, Oxford(google Oxford) and emeritus fellow of New College, Oxford and was the University of Oxford's Professor for Public Understanding of Science from 1995 until 2008.

    Berlinski Notable awards: NONE.

    You may lie all you wan't but Creationism, the one and only pseudo-science, will NEVER be accepted among the scientific community.

  • The scientific community should be thankful it has REAL scientists like Berlinski in its ranks.

    Unlike known Freemason FRAUD and the pseudoscientific poser Richard Dawkins. Who is an utter disgrace to all in the academic and scientific institutions of the world.

    No "shared ancestors" exist. No CHLCA.

    Us Homo Sapiens have existed for at least 200,000 years and still havent "magically mutated" into a NEW species.

    Evolution = pseudoscience, FAIRYTALE, and propaganda

    The CULT of Darwinism

  • @buffboynick Once you sober up from that crystal meth, you'll realize that Berlinski is thew one that's not recognized by the scientific community:

    "Berlinski's writings are not scientific, but popular, and that Berlinski "has no known record of his own contribution to the development of mathematics or of any other science." M. Perakh, professor emeritus of Mathematics and statistical mechanics at California State University

    (...)

  • @ZZzzzzzWhat

    Scientists that disagree with evolution, here are a few....

    Dr David Berlinksi (an agnostic with degrees in molecular biology, philosophy, and mathematics)

    Dr. Thomas Barnes, Physicist

    Dr. John Baumgardner, Electrical Engineering, Space Physicist, Geophysicist, expert in supercomputer modeling of plate tectonics

    Dr. Kimberly Berrine, Microbiology & Immunology

    Prof. Vladimir Betina, Microbiology, Biochemistry & Biology

    Dr. Andrew Bosanquet, Biology, Microbiology

  • @ZZzzzzzWhat

    Thanks for the quote from ONE douchebag Darwinist haha

    That has NOTHING to do with the MYTH of evolution.

    Luckily for REAL science we have Molecular Biologists like Dr David Berlinski that consistently OWN pseudoscience clowns like Dawkins.

    I can see you're a "believer" in the MYTHICAL ape-man (technically called the CHLCA)

    I suggest you type in CHLCA in on Wikipedia and read all about your UNFOUND shared ancestor.

    Its often hard to find a MYTH.

  • @buffboynick I'm disappointed with you. i was expecting you to say that we are a genetically modified race created by the lizard men which are still living among us.

    We already have a enough creatard trolls.

  • @ZZzzzzzWhat

    Any I'm disappointed in anyone that believes in the MYTHICAL joke known as the "ape-man" and his magical species-tranforming mutations that cause sub-species like chimps, neanderthals, and us to to "magically" form haha

    You delusional Darwinist HYPOCRITES are prime examples of pseudoscience and logical fallacy in action.

    New species arise from a process known as "gene hybridization" which sometimes occurs naturally (a Liger is an example) but is typically done in a LAB. You FAIL

  • @ZZzzzzzWhat

    By the way fool.....

    Us humans can now genetically engineer NEW species__FACT

    Making animal-human hybrids is currently being done in the UK right now. It was banned in the USA by Congress a few years ago, making it illegal in America. But its perfectly LEGAL in the UK__FACT

    If humans can do it, it would be a cakewalk for more advanced civilizations. Even Richard Dawkins admits that in a video on here__FACT

    Owned again. Enjoy your blue pill and get some ZZzzzzzzz

  • @buffboynick which 'advanced civilizations' are those? Show us the truth.

  • Berlinski will be forgotten--which is lucky for him. If he WILL be remembered, it will be as one of the biggest horse's asses who ever pretended to have an idea.

  • The time has come for Hugh Hefner to pose naked. Americans demand to see his shriveled nuts.

  • Guess who pays Berlinski's salary - the creationist fwap site, Discovery Institute. Enough said about this idiot.

  • Berlinski hasn't evolved as much as the rest of us. hahaha

  • Berlinski is a pompous ass, and every one of his 'claims' about evolution is completely unfounded and false. He simply lives in semantics, and has no real facts.

  • He lives in semantics... Doesn't the scientific process do the same? Now, if you mean he lives in the world of logic...this is not unfounded. I mean the whole notion of evolution is based on logic...so if one were to point out logical flaws, and think we should give them a discourse. It's important to notice that evolutionary theory does not predict physical phenomena...which makes this theory weaker to other physical theories that predict with precision.

  • The scientific process is completely and utterly based on real facts and evidence. Anything that contains no facts or evidence is not science. And Berlinski has neither facts nor evidence to back up any claim he has ever made... he is paid off to his best to dispute actual scientists.

  • @spiderpig85..."The scientific process is completely and utterly based on real facts and evidence."

    The scientific process is trivial. I think you should be more concerned with what scientific theories are. Yes, they are based on facts, but they also are based on laws--there is a difference. Facts also break up into deductive kinds and inductive kinds within the theory. Science is more concerned with evidence; however, facts are dealt with in logical reasoning. Everything starts a priori.

  • We know what a 'species' is,

    we don't know what a 'kind' is.

  • 2 idiots jerking each other off, sad.

  • Mathamatical physices?

    Too bad Dr. Butinski isn't a biologist, then he would understand evolution.

  • Dude, he did his Post Doc in Biology at Columbia university.......does that qualify as a biologist in your book???....he's a Brilliant man!

  • Columbia University was founded by the

    Church of England.

    Dr. Butinski is paid by the Discovery Inst. to make shit up. He has never had a job as a scientist.

    "If you want to change a cow into a whale..." Not how evolution works, and it was not a grass eating animal.

  • Yes, he is a biologist. And you?

  • @olavodeca

    He is a math teacher,

    I am a chemist

  • He has never been a scientist, just a math teacher who can't sit up straight.

  • Darwinst hate DB because he's right.

  • "Darwinst"

    Hasn't been an accepted term for about 100 years.

    "hate DB because he's right."

    Evolution advocates don't hate Berlkinski, and it certainly isn't because he's "Right". We dislike berlinski because he speaks from authority about a subject which he knows very little of, and on top of it, comes off with an air of arrogance and superiority.

    The man thinks you need one fossil from every generation of every species ever on earth to infer evolution.

  • Exactly, Dr. B eats their lunch everytime and it eats at their very souls.

  • he's always holding that pen lol

  • Does anyone else think Berlinski is a pompous prick?

  • I agree. This guy is a joke to most mathematicians these days (Im in that category of studies). I don't think he knows the difference between formal, and empirical science. You don't have things such as proofs and rigour in empirical science the same way as in formal science. They practice the scientific method in very different ways but the same process.

  • He isn't comparing Apples with Oranges as you suggest, I think he's saying that the inferences that are gotten from evolutionary thinking are so open to interpretation because they lack alot of hard evidence.

  • "I think he's saying that the inferences that are gotten from evolutionary thinking are so open to interpretation because they lack alot of hard evidence."

    No, it's his interpretation of the lack of information he allows himself to see that evolution lacks a lot of evidence. Berlinski is a Mathematician who is used to dealing with equations where all the constants and variables are in place.

    He's not used to looking at most of a picture and inferring what it is.

  • You have just vindicated what I said.

    You also have a very obscure view of mathematics. Da Vinci was the first to recognise that if anything is to call itself scientific it has to pass various rigorous mathematical tests.

    Even if there were anything to infer from in terms of evidence, the conclusions are nothing like anything we have seen in mathematics before. Random variation creating new information of biological complexity just isn't scientific.

  • "You have just vindicated what I said."

    No, I'm saying that the inferences from evolution arent as obscure as Berlinski would like to believe. Also what you're implying is that anything less than a total 100% understanding is completely worthless which IS the case in Mathematics and formal science but not the case in Empirical sciences.

    This is what Berlinski doesn't understand, because he's a mathematician. To him it is all logic and mathematics calculation. There are other branches of science.

  • Berlinski is a Polymath, his PhD was in philisophy, his dissertation on Wittgenstein, he has very much studied evolutionary thinking too.

    It doesn't have a single testable hypothesis to lend to it's name. It only has a series of anecdotes and intuitive analogies.

    What does indeed seem pretty obvious is a descent from common ancestor, Berlinski is only really skeptical of the "natural selection" bit, as am I. That see as being no more than a tautology, describing what we already know.

  • "Da Vinci was the first to recognise that if anything is to call itself scientific it has to pass various rigorous mathematical tests."

    I've never heard that, so may I have your source?

    And Francis Bacon refined the scientific method 100 years later.

    "Even if there were anything to infer from in terms of evidence, the conclusions are nothing like anything we have seen in mathematics before"

    I agree but they are different forms of science. In empirical science you cant really know something 100%.

  • Do you deny that mathematics can describe everything phsyical in the universe?

    If I called Astrology a science, would you describe it as a science too? Isn't is as much an empirical science as evolution, reliant on observation and correlation of the facts.

    The source of the paraphrased remark is infact from a coldwatermedia video featuring David Berlinski, which are all on youtube.

  • "Random variation creating new information of biological complexity just isn't scientific. "

    Its not mathematically precise, but there is a mountain of evidence in favor of it, which does indeed make it scientific.

    Talking to you makes me understand why Berlinski has trouble with quantum mechanics as well. What neither of you seem to understand is that with the exception of Math and Logic, Science is largely probabilistic.

    By your criteria, Meteorology isn't a science.

  • I'm contrasting Evolutionary Biology with Astrology, because they basically do the same thing. We have some nice stories. The evidence is still lacking, cyclic variation of finch beaks, a collection of dinosaur skeletons from discreet times.

    Talking to you makes me understand how easily scientific orthodoxy is held so highly in regard, no matter how paltry the evidence.

    Don't reply, because I wont bother to reply back.

  • "Random variation creating new information "

    Variation is needed for evolution to happen.  Variation is proven by turning a wolf into a poodle. Evolution is powered by Natural selection, not mutation.

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  • Well, Dr. Dawkins says that random variations come first, the survival of the fittest comes after. So neodarwinists are always free to jump from random mutations to evolutionary mutations as it pleases them. If you criticize the darwinist determinism, they appeal to random mutation, If you criticize random mutation, they shout that mutations are not randomic at all. This is not science, this is bad rethorics.

  • @olavodeca

    yes, the variation is already in nature. Things don't random mutate to evolve, DNA mutated to provide the variation.

    Species evolve through natural selection which is not random.

  • @olavodeca

    You obviously don't understand evolution at all.

    Yes, the mutations are random, but it is the BENEFICIAL mutations that get passed onto the next generation.

    Example: a mutation that makes a deer run SLOWER is a detrimental mutation. Chances are that the deer will get eaten by predators before it passes on its genes (produces offspring).

    But a mutation that allows the deer to run FASTER gives it a better chance to avoid predators and a better chance to pass on their genes.

  • He's a pompous prick who is also a Genius.

  • Hitchens is a pompous prick...but I dont see any atheists complaining about it!!! LOL

    They bemoan the fact that such a brilliant mind is not on their side. Well, TOO BAD....

  • Well, to be fair- YES HE IS... but since we're being fair, have you EVER applauded for Hitchens??

    Of course you have ! :-)

    Hitchens too is a pompous prick.

  • okay...

  • I think that would be the most FLATTERING way to describe him.

  • Only a healthy brain can categorize an image. Nonetheless we are greatly crippled by our meager senses. The physical laws as we know them are just that: as we know them. [At the Nuremberg show trials the soldiers, and political underlings, of defeated Germany said that they were just following orders. Young men fight these wars of pelf because their fathers have failed them.]

  • A person's "intelligence" {barring trauma} remains a constant, unchangeable factor from birth. Intelligence is the vessel into which we fill with knowledge.

  • Evolutionary THEORY makes no allowances for adaptation. Darwin's religion demands the melding of adaption & evolution. It hoodwinks a lot of teenagers. Shared ancestry? One might extrapolate upon anything, yet imaginative explanations must be verified before they are scientifically sound. Evolutionary THEORY will remain as conjecture as it's mythical. It's profitable and mythical.

  • Why do people with so little understanding of something, make the loudest statements? All science is theory. I'm sure you've been told that before, and because you're probably fucking stupid, you'll be told that again, countless times. It's all theory. It makes every allowance for adaption. Just because you don't understand how, doesn't preclude it's occurance. It doesn't "hoodwink" teenagers. They study it, they understand it.

  • Take a Midol, sister.

  • Take Evolution 101. Transgender-bender.

  • You have personal problems of which I'm prepared to counsel you for. Let's discus your boyfriend.

  • I understand that you want me to be gay, but I'm sorry. It's not you, it's me. And why the gay bashing anyway? I feel so callow for follow your lame "sister" lead. Urgh. Bowing to lameness. Kill me now.

  • By the way, did I just read correctly, you accuse "Evolution" of being "profitable"? What, as opposed to tax free, tithing-powered religious bullshit? That's a pretty impressive gall you have there. The funny thing is, that all this "profitable" evolution, goes into a vast array of science, that benifits YOU. Ungrateful fuck.

  • Why will no one love you?

  • Haha!

    Because I live to make baby jesus weep.

    Now kneel before the alter of science. Or, preferably have some principal, and unplug your internet :)

  • Stop shaming your parents.

  • If the universe was INTELLIGENTLY designed, Berlinski wouldn't be here!

  • Berlinski is in Expelled as an intellectual spokesman? LOL. The entire ID crowd is so pathetic.

  • haha for people who put all their faith in science you sure do use a lot of harsh words to defend your pitiful ideals lol

  • We don't even know what a species is? Ever heard of Peripatric speciation? Apparently not. Dumbass!

  • lol, i'm not even sure creationist Christians will understand anything that is being said in this movie

  • lol, i'm not even sure creationist Christians will understand anything that is being said in this movie

  • yeah b/c the movie and topic are two differnt things. I like the comparisons made to michael moore in the sense that the producers and stein have taken a very sensative and massive conflict like theories on the origin of life and capitalized on it.. this isn't a public cry for fairness.. it's a money making project full of misinformation, bias, and at the base of it all, entertainment.. all this hoopla over it is just a ploy to sell it.

  • Also: precisely how does ANY lack of intelligibility nullify the EVIDENCE of evolution which is so conveniently organized as to support the theory of evolution?

    For example, why does Ken Miller so convincingly state that he knows exactly where the 24th chromosome pair folded to make human beings have one less pair than our closest living ancestors, chimpanzees?

    And what about modern biogenetics? We can literally see where the exact genetic discrepancies lie between us and any other species.

  • Um...Actually, my understanding is that what defines a species is when the barrier to reproduction is erected. I.E. members of the same species can interbreed, but as soon as a descendant of that species cannot interbreed with the initial population, it is classified as a new species.

    We've actually defined ourselves (anthropologists) as a subspecies of the species homo sapiens. Precisely how is this so unclear? That was his single example. Literally his single example.

  • Berlinksi is a pseudointellectual twit.

  • From slate dot com:

    "Berlinski is a critic, a contrarian, and—by his own admission—a crank."

    And we should listen to him because? ... Anyone? ... Anyone? ...

  • We listen because he's loud, angry and rude. Ken Miller once handed him his own ass in a debate on evolution.

  • Yup Ken miller served Behe & Berlinski's ass on a platter..

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