Schoenberg is developer of 12 tone matrix (or dodecafony), so it's 12 tone. But your theory about a mix of atonality and 12 tone matrix makes sence. But I'm not an expert of modern music, so I might be wrong! But your question is interesting and I will ask my teacher about it! Best whishes from me!
now, my question to experts: Is this ACTUALLY atonal or is this 12-tone based? Many times, 12-tone is confused with atonal music. I personally can't detect the specifics in this piece. Doesn't mean there's no matrix involved!
@pianOracle Schoenberg wrote lots of twelve-tone music. I am not sure if this is an example of it, but whether it is twelve-tone or not, it is certainly atonal. All pieces composed in the twelve-tone style are atonal, but not all atonal music is twelve-tone. Make sense?
@Pianist46 I sure understand and appreciate the enlightenment! I'm not sure that all 12-tone must be atonal, as I believe tone can be suggested even in 12-tone through accents and timing but then again, I'd probably have to prove that with a composition..... Tnx again for enlightening me!
@pianOracle Perhaps a 12-tone composition can seem tonal or suggest a key, but I still think that since all the notes of the chromatic scale are played equally, it cannot truly be considered tonal. But you're welcome! :D
@Pianist46 This work is atonal but not twelve-tone. Schoenberg's earlier atonal works (c. 1908-20) were composed "intuitively," according to the composer himself; meaning that he simply wrote what pleased his ear - he did not utilize functional/directional (from dissonance to consonance) harmony like was used in the Common Practice Era, but nor did he organize his compositions using a row of the twelve chromatic tones and equally distributing them. His brilliant inner ear brought us this work!
@SeivomProductions2 No, this is much harder! The flight of the bumble bee is simple and it's based on basic chromatic scale, which is variated at some places. I don't know why many people think flight of the bumble bee is hard. Atonal music sometimes is not hard technicaly (like this one), but it's very very hard to interpret.
@SeivomProductions2 I don't know why some people think that virtuoso pianists have to play and must play only extremely hard music. They have to play what they like to play, no mather is it hard or not!
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MrJamesdevereblest 1 month ago
Schoenberg is developer of 12 tone matrix (or dodecafony), so it's 12 tone. But your theory about a mix of atonality and 12 tone matrix makes sence. But I'm not an expert of modern music, so I might be wrong! But your question is interesting and I will ask my teacher about it! Best whishes from me!
emopz13 1 month ago
now, my question to experts: Is this ACTUALLY atonal or is this 12-tone based? Many times, 12-tone is confused with atonal music. I personally can't detect the specifics in this piece. Doesn't mean there's no matrix involved!
pianOracle 1 month ago
@pianOracle Schoenberg wrote lots of twelve-tone music. I am not sure if this is an example of it, but whether it is twelve-tone or not, it is certainly atonal. All pieces composed in the twelve-tone style are atonal, but not all atonal music is twelve-tone. Make sense?
Pianist46 1 month ago
@Pianist46 I sure understand and appreciate the enlightenment! I'm not sure that all 12-tone must be atonal, as I believe tone can be suggested even in 12-tone through accents and timing but then again, I'd probably have to prove that with a composition..... Tnx again for enlightening me!
pianOracle 1 month ago
@pianOracle Perhaps a 12-tone composition can seem tonal or suggest a key, but I still think that since all the notes of the chromatic scale are played equally, it cannot truly be considered tonal. But you're welcome! :D
Pianist46 1 month ago
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@Pianist46 This work is atonal but not twelve-tone. Schoenberg's earlier atonal works (c. 1908-20) were composed "intuitively," according to the composer himself; meaning that he simply wrote what pleased his ear - he did not utilize functional/directional (from dissonance to consonance) harmony like was used in the Common Practice Era, but nor did he organize his compositions using a row of the twelve chromatic tones and equally distributing them. His brilliant inner ear brought us this work!
AldenHardaway 1 month ago
How can he go from 'flight of the bumblebee' to this? I mean.. flight of the bumblebee is much harder.. right?
SeivomProductions2 1 month ago
@SeivomProductions2 No, this is much harder! The flight of the bumble bee is simple and it's based on basic chromatic scale, which is variated at some places. I don't know why many people think flight of the bumble bee is hard. Atonal music sometimes is not hard technicaly (like this one), but it's very very hard to interpret.
emopz13 1 month ago
@SeivomProductions2 wrong! the notes in flight make perfect sense. these notes must be felt as well as heard.
pianOracle 1 month ago
@SeivomProductions2 I don't know why some people think that virtuoso pianists have to play and must play only extremely hard music. They have to play what they like to play, no mather is it hard or not!
emopz13 1 month ago
Perfect!!! Happy New Year!!!!!
vkremona 2 months ago
Prince George, once again his unusual talent was present.
A work extremely hard and you have done wonderfully.
It's a real blessing to hear from you.
Best wishes and congratulations!
lucianabiancavilla 2 months ago
Happy New Year!! :)
countrychloe 2 months ago
Well done. These atonal pieces are very difficult to interpret...my complete respect, George.
Roxann308 2 months ago
Bravo! Congratulations, that's beautiful.
WhoIsJimHardiman 2 months ago
perfect.
kpunkt 2 months ago
Believe in miracles, believe in your heart, live, forget all the grief, the New Year begins. Open your arms, you love to hug, and it is what I want: Happy New Year!
mhkptszi 2 months ago
excellent piano playing from someone so young yet so accomplished.
blueyoyi 2 months ago
Really beautiful performance,like also this kind of music,great ur interpretation!:)
Amnas2011 2 months ago
Fabulous!
61550LizziE 2 months ago
Bravo!!!!
hobotzcarandco 2 months ago
gorgeous!
1MaisBrasil 2 months ago
waw!
PierangeloFevola 2 months ago
Bravo!!
MaisSimples 2 months ago
una musica molto impegnativa che per la verità non ho mai ascoltato -
l'esecuzione è come sempre notevolissima
fmiglio437 2 months ago