Noam Chomsky opened my eyes on the world affairs. I can't really find the right words to express my self on his wisdom. I wish you well - Noam... Hope you live 200 years...
Dr. Chomsky recently told Iranian TV that at the time the US attacked Afganistan, they had no evidence that al Qaeda was guilty. See my video "Chomsky on Faith-based Wars and 9/11"
Cherish him whilst he is still here, for once he's gone, we have nobody with anything like the intellect, motivation and courage to first uncover, and then challenge the orthodoxies of western imperialism. We are fortunate that he is such a prolific analyst. Noam Chomsky is probably the only person on the planet who I remain in awe of; he challenges my inherent cynicism and impels me to further my understanding of the issues which are hindering humanity's progress. Thank you, Noam.
Well put. It's frightening to think that he's near the end of his life. He's such an amazing man. When he's gone, there will be an enormous void to fill. Thanks for your comment.
@jiggity99 There will be a huge void to fill, and nobody could replicate Chomsky. However, in regards to politics Paul Street is close to Chomsky's equal in examining US politics, and Andrej Grubagic has Chomsky's anarcho-sydycalist viewpoints.
I'm sure when Chomsky was a young man he would look up to his political elders and wonder "how could anyone fill those shoes?"
@oldstock1607 Humor me for a moment and concretely define "leftism." While you're at it, please give an example in history of how this "leftism" is actually self-destructive and all of the other things you attribute to it. By the by, how is Chomsky an extremist again? And what does being a Jew (we capitalize proper nouns in English) have to do with this vague "leftism" and his being an extremist? Let's begin with explications rather than from proclamations. It's more productive that way.
@firstnamenavarre I'll certainly try...I would say that a leftist is one who worships weakness, abhors strength, and seeks to reduce all of human history to a scathing indictment of the character of the white, western male. A leftist believes that all matters of morality and honor are completely objective and relative, and takes an uncritical, almost fawning view of all that he percieves as non-white, non-western, non-English speaking culture. I would say that a leftist praises all that is
@oldstock1607 diametrically opposed to western civilization and its values as good and honorable, and all that is western and Eurpean as dishonorable and bad. A leftist is tolerant of extreme intolerance PROVIDED that that intolerance is coming from a non-white, non-western male. Example: nazis = worst people to ever live, radical muslims = righteous. Even though the two groups have ideologies that are strikingly similar, leftists give muslims a pass, because they are non-white, non-western.
@oldstock1607 A leftist sees fault only in his/her own culture, is constantly apologizing for and excusing--at times even praising--the actions of our enemies regardless of how barbaric and criminal they may be. An anglo leftist is ashamed of their skin color and their culture. Despite the fact that their ilk outnumbers others with dissenting worldviews, they also smugly believe that their point of view is somehow more "enlightened" "progressive" and "Alternative" than the views of others.
@oldstock1607 America works for corporations, always, and it's absurd for you to direct your anger at fellow citizens when the real degenerating force is the structure of the system. You want to know why wages are falling, unemployment is rising, and yet corporations have record profits? The system is structured to benefit them, not citizens. Don't turn people in to abstract ideas. They're real people with real grievances, and it's counterproductive to blame them rather than analyze the problem.
@oldstock1607 Anglo culture has long been dead in America, along with everyone else's culture. All culture eventually withers in the face of consumerism and mass media. Name ONE widely practiced Anglo culture in America that isn't sports. You're so irritating, you keep saying "they" and "them," well who are they? Go find them on the street. And if you have a serious problem with "them," then be a "man" and take up your concerns instead of fuming impotently on the internet.
@firstnamenavarre of course, those are just my impressions. I would say that Chomsky is an extremist in that he has openly proclaimed his support for Hamas and Hezbollah--two organizations which no matter how you slice it, are some of the nastiest terrorist organizations in the entire world. Chomsky's being a Jew is also indicative of this self-loathing, self-destructive nature attributable to leftist-extremists. The very people he defends would murder him in a saint's whisper. In short,
@oldstock1607 I would say that leftists are shorn of and fundamentally reject all of the survival instinct inherent in the human species. While they proclaim to wat what is "best" for their nation or political unit, their proposals are nearly always of a weakening, degenerative force. As for examples. I could truly go on for hours. The most poignant example that I can think of at the moment are the liberals in the Britsh parliament whose striving for a multicultural society through unrestrained
@oldstock1607 immigration threatens to destroy the indigenous culture of the isles. While I have no problems with gays, I also fail to see how their being openly so in the military is going to "strengthen" the military. The leftists that supported the Mosque at ground Zero truly sickened me--what was their motive? That was the moral equivalent of emasculating yourself with a straight razor and handing your severed genitals to those who have preached your destruction and lambasted your weakness.
@oldstock1607 While I'm rambling, I should add that leftists have, in the past, and continue to promote a feminization of the American male and a simultaneous masculinization of the American female All of modern American leftism is the product of the hippie generation, which was, like communism with which it shares much common ground, promulgated by secular Jews. Before you respond, do not assume that I am a conservative--I have critical views of them as well. I a a secular Libertarian atheist.
@oldstock1607 Yes, the loss of the "indigenous" culture of the isles would truly be a loss, especially when dozens of indigenous cultures are threatened all around the world, and many more already decimated according to greedy arrogant contortions of Western philosophy. So that's fine, as long as they're not white? Your views are so incredibly out of touch with facts and utterly lack any kind of compassion for human beings that it's hopeless for me to try to talk with you. Bye.
@firstnamenavarre And I can see by your response that you are everything I've described. Your statement is like an exclamation mark for my definition of the typical leftist.
@oldstock1607 You also talk about "survival instincts" or something. How about this, the survival of the species relies on its ability to nurture diversity not only in biological traits, but in culture and ideas. We and all life evolved in a dynamic environment, and survival of the group depends on flexibility, having diverse traits in reserve so that the species isn't lost to the first environmental stress. Homogenization is death in the long-term, but it seems to be what you're promoting.
@firstnamenavarre well, the human species is under no threat of extinction anytime soon. But hey, we also know that "diversity" is only considered a "good" thing when it consits of traditionally white cultures granting concessions and being on the losing end of immigration, and the destruction of their own culture. Hell, the very term "racist" is a racist term--I NEVER hear that word applied to anyone OTHER THAN whites. It appears that only whites are capable of being racist, right?
@oldstock1607 I don't have hostility towards differing views, you're just ignorant and dumb. To you, "they" seem to be anyone who isn't white. News: I'm not white, I'm Mexican. My grandfather gained citizenship by fighting WWII. My dad is a retired master chief (30 years) in the Navy serving in Iraq as a contractor. I'm applying to PhD programs in computational neuroscience, and I read widely in European philosophy in my free time. How am I destroying your "Anglo" farmer's markets, again?
@firstnamenavarre really? no hostility--yet you resort to calling me "ignorant and dumb." here's a tip: if you intend to survive in the academic world--and particularly if you're pursuing a Doctorate, refrain from calling people (particularly those, like me, who are certainly not) "ignorant and dumb." Any credibility you once had with me as an intellectual was destroyed by your word choice. Doctors don't call people names.
@firstnamenavarre Thank you for mentioning diversity (In the racial sense I assume you mean) I often hear leftists saying that the offspring of interracial relationships make the human species stronger and more disease resistant through the promotion ofgenetic diversity--yet science has proven that there is more diversity WITHIN races than there is BETWEEN races, which pretty handily invalidates this claim. While I have no problem with these relationships, leftists should just be honest and
@oldstock1607 admit that the reason that they like to see these relationships has nothing to do with percieved benefits to human genetics, but because they see it as one small step in the subsumation of the Caucasian bloodline.
@oldstock1607 You don't speak the language of logic or facts, moreover, your world view is hostile to me. It results in the destruction and exploitation of people like me based on the circumstances of national origin and appearance because you think I don't exist. I'm a "leftist," a "non-white," or some other arbitrary categorization. What research are you talking about? Just look up Hardy-Weinberg genetics. Inbreeding results in the complete loss of alleles in populations. Nice chatting, bye.
@firstnamenavarre I don't speak the language of logic orfacts? or just not the logic and facts that you are comfortable with? And how is my pointing out that white American leftists are inadvertently destroying their cultural inheritance threatening to you? And my worldview "results in the destruction and exploitation of people like [you]? Man. you have drunk long and deep from th fnt of left-wing extremism. I would say that it is definitely YOUR worldview that has killed all rational discourse
@firstnamenavarre Lika a child who sticks its fingers in its ears and shouts "LALALALALA" when being told something it doesn't want to hear, you are truly hostile towards any opposing viewpoint. Enjoy the left-wing hegemony over academia while it lasts, because when the backlash against you occurs, it is going to happen in a major way. You Academia-nazis have ruled universitites for over 40 years and your time is about up. You can't disregard all opinions that don't conform to your own forever.
@oldstock1607 Isn't that what fascists propose, to burn the books, and smash the intellectual centres of education, creation and invention? It's kind of ironic that you use the word nazi when, arguably, the only way to unseat "Academia-nazis" is to destroy the environment in which they thrive. Although by no means a universality, most academics are left wing. Why are corporations largely governed by rightists and academic bodies generally governed by leftists? I'd trust Chomsky before Ken Lay.
@DaveMawer I never proposed book-burning, or "smashing the intellectual centres of education"--don't put words in my mouth. And there IS a way to unseat Acedemia-nazis--change the paradigm so tht they MUST abandon their agendas. Lecture halls are not pulpits for promoting their leftist agendas and Universities are not indoctrination camps. Most academics are left-wing because they've been raised in the hothouse of leftist extremism. Those that have done time in the real world are not. And corp-
@oldstock1607 orations are ususally run by apolitical people. I'm not saying that University professors should have a rightist agend, I'm saying that they should have NO agenda. I see that you're a Chomsky-worshipper, so I won't comment on him, but I'd trust Pat Buchanan to run the country before I would Chomsky.
@oldstock1607 hes just stating straight facts wtf are you so infuriated about, and youre the one afraid of opposing views obviously. If you think we go to war for freedom youre truly retarded, now if you think we should invade on the basis of economic tactics atleast you understand the truth but you would also be a sociopath..........by the way this is how youre right wing demigods talk about wars (based in reality) behind closed doors i doubt they pedal the whole freedom thing to eachother
@85mariapatricia infuriated? I'm SO not infurated. Maybe you should read some of my earlier posts. And, as many have before you--you have jumped to the conclusion that I am a rightist simply because I have identified myself as a non-leftist. (there is a middle ground, you know) My critique of Chomsky is not that he's not an intellectual--clearly he's one of the leading intellectual lights of our times. HOWEVER, I believe that his humanist agenda has overriden his true sense of logic. That's all.
@oldstock1607 You are a "rightist". It doesn't need to be explained that you believe that Chomsky's "humanist" (left) agenda is his only flaw. I suggest that next time, just say "I am a republican" so that we can all ignore your statement and continue on with intellectual discourse which would spare us your useless backpedal-ling. Noam Chomsky offers 150 books, all perfectly cited and accurate. He is widely cited as "most important intellectual alive". Do you think you're smarter than this man?
@CackSlop666 Sir, If i were to say "I am a republican" I would be lying. I am most certainly not a republican. How is it that you dreadlock-sporting types--yourselves ostensibly hostile to labels-are so quick to pigeonhole those with dissenting opinions as "republicans" or "rightists?" Is everything a partisan political struggle to you? In one sense I am smarter than Noam Chomsky. I understand quite well that no amount of pressure from the American left is going to coerce the israelis to
@oldstock1607 surrender one milimeter of land. All of Mr. Chomsky's (admittedly) well-written, well-cited books are not going to change this. It is neither right, nor left, it just IS.
@oldstock1607 Perhaps not... But something HAS to be done. You can't just stick your head in the sand, and pretend that it doesn't exist. And no; I don't think you are smarter than Noam Chomsky... in any sense of the word. Don't you think he KNOWS the argument you're using? Don't you think he's run it through his head hundreds of times? Because if you don't, then you are most definitely not smarter than him. The thing is; he's seen those arguments, and KNOWS that they are flawed.
@FluffisHamster So then...what is the BEST case scenario? The Israelis pack up all of their belongings and leave the region entirely? That is simply not going to happen. Ever. After the holocaust, the Jews would gladly cast the world into the abyss rather than admit defeat, or permit Israel to become a failed state, coerced out of existence by the desires of extreme leftists, extreme rightists and the majority of the world's muslims. They will not do this. So then what is the goal? To further
@oldstock1607 radicalize the Israelis? What is the mission statement? if there even is one. All Chomsky is doing is what leftists have been doing for over 40 years-providing criticism without providing viable solutions. I may not be smarter than Chomsky, but I firmly believe that I have a better grasp of Zionist nature than he has, and quite possibly a better grasp of the course of human history as well. If he thinks he can chat Israel out of existence, then he is no smarter than a barroom drunk
@oldstock1607 If you believe that you have a better grasp of Zionist nature, then you are delusional. I'm sorry, but it's true. Of course he can't "chat Israel out of existence". He's doing the only thing he truly can do, which is to inform, argue and persuade. He's an academic, not a politician or diplomat. It's not his JOB to tell politicians how to do their job. It's to give them perspective, and helping them make informed decisions.
@oldstock1607 No, the best case scenario is both peoples living in peace. If I knew how to make things like that happen, or how to simply stay the hostilities, I wouldn't be on YouTube arguing this with you. I'd be out there doing it. Nobody is saying that this is easy. Most people believe Israel/Palestine is a LOST CAUSE. That there is no way whatsoever to end it. I just know that the U.S. either backing one side or outright ignoring the whole thing, is NOT the way to go.
@FluffisHamster The route to peace would involve the Palestinians accepting the existence of Israel, ALSO something that is never going to happen, since muslims (worldwide) and the rest of the world refuse to accept that anti-semitism is a fundamental tenet of islam. If the palestinians would cease fire entirely, the killing would stop--but of course they are never going to do that. Do not forget, the palestinians were offered their own state long ago, and out of sheer vindictiveness, flatly
@oldstock1607 refused it. And you're right, it is not Chomsky's job to tell politicians what to do, it is his job to teach at a university. Where Chomsky fails miserably is in not taking the Palestinians to task on THEIR behavior as well. He has all but praised hamas and hizbollah. How is this productive to ANY end? Is supporting terrorism "enlightened?" Tell you what--e-mail me in 20 years and tell me if anything is any diffferent in that region. If it is, I will retract everything I've said.
@oldstock1607 But we both know it won't be, don't we? because it IS a lost cause. You simply cannot take a side on this issue, persecute one group of participants, while ignoring the crimes of the other side and expect to affect any positive change. And if you think that Chomsky's opinions on the matter are wholly guided by logic and are not tinged by emotion or personal prejuduces whatsoever then YOU are the delusional one. On this issue, Chomsky speaks from a position of ZERO authority. And do
@oldstock1607 not also forget that Chomsky's area of expertise is in LINGUISTICS. He is not a political scientist, not an historian, not an expert on middle eastern affairs, not a diplomat. He has been given carte blanche on all of these subjects merely because he is a leftist demi-god. He is an "honorary" expert on the middle east for this very reason.
@oldstock1607 My friend.. "persecuting one group of participants and ignoring the crimes of the other side" is what the U.S. have been doing for DECADES.
@FluffisHamster For the reasons I have enumerated. 1. He offers no viable solution--only criticism. 2. He is unrealistic on the matter. 2. He is critical ONLY of the jews in this matter, 3. He is supportive of organizations whose behavior is arguably more reprehensible than the Israelis, and 5. He is speaking on subjects that are outside of his realm of expertise and gets undue respect for doing so simply because he is a prominent leftist, and criticizing israel is the cause celebre of leftism
@FluffisHamster Agreed. I will, however, leave you with the parting advice that in the future, you do not uncritically accept everything that leaves this man's mouth simply because he is who he is. He is just a man, and is fallible.
heh, quick read, you lost vs @Fluffishamster. a fragment i noted: "he is critical ONLY of the jews in the matter", wrong, he is not. Critisism of israel is actually pretty standard in non-US countries.
@RipTheJackR yes, Chomsky always leves himself an out when pontificating on any subject, by throwing out a droll, half-hearted "well, of course I don't supprot terrorism," or "of course I don't condone piracy." Let's put it this way: he's SO critical of the palestinians that he has met with the leaders of Hamas on several seperate occassions. Yep. that's your hero--cozying up to some of the biggest shit-ass terrorists on earth.
@RipTheJackR oh how very disconcerting that you think I "lost." The funny thing Is, I could have laid out the most articulate and well-reasoned argument on earth, and "fluffishamster" could have come back with something like "fuck you, cocksucker," and you would STILL be saying I "lost." Why? because fluffishamster and Noam Chomsky are preaching to the already-converted. You.
@oldstock1607 Speaking of subjects that are outside his realm? The man has dedicated his life to academia, a fool such as yourself does not get to dictate which "subjects" a much finer man may or may not speak about.
@CrushtheInfamy88 Yeah, well, he's also a linguist by education. i don't know of any other academician who is granted such arbitrary sway on every subject under the sun. And you've fallen into the same lame trap: Chomsky is one of the world's leading intellectuals, so NO ONE ON EARTH could POSSIBLY have a valid criticism of ANYTHING he says. Well, young man, he talks straight out oh his ass on the Israeli-Palestinian issue every single day. Fuck Noam Trotsky. I'll be glad when he's gone.
@oldstock1607 Chomsky always speaks objectively. His job is to relay facts rather than to share his opinions. You say he is talking out of his ass? Perhaps you can point out specifically where he does so then. If you're going to accuse the most revered intellectual in the world of charlatanism provide proofs, or else nobody gives a shit about your opinions. Also, Zionist, would the rest of the world with the exception of the US and Israel be wrong as well then?
@CrushtheInfamy88 Thanks for striking at the very root of the problem with your use of the term "revered intellectual." So, because Chomsky is "revered" he is totally above criticism? Your hero here is a well-known fraud, with a history of distorting facts to lend credibility ot his ideological extremism. Rather than enumerate the myriad lies and distoritions Chomsky has perpetrated, I'll direct you to "The top 200 Chomsky Lies," compiled by Paul Bogdanor. Google it.
@CrushtheInfamy88 And I see that you, like many leftists, fell that calling someone a "zionist" is an epithet on a par with "motherfucker." Let me explain some basic Political science to you. As the world's premier military power, it is the duty of the U.S. to prevent Israel from being attacked. If the U.S. completely withdrew support for Israel, 40+ muslim nations would immediately pounce, prompting the Jews to (undoubtedly) retaliate with nuclear warheads. That would be a calamity for the
@oldstock1607 entire world, not just the Middle east. And here's another bit of info, leftist--this is not truly an issue of territory. Despite what you may have heard, Muslims have a historical hatred for the Jews that antedates the establishment of Israel by over 1300 years. So maybe the destruction of the earth is a worthy price for your anti-semitism, but as for me, they can have that shitty little piece of desert. Muslims are never going to be happy anyway.
@oldstock1607Murderer, terrorist, exploiter, torturer, fascist - these are words synonymous with Zionist. Allow me to give you a rudimentary lesson in political science, professor; the foremost objective of any politician is reelection. One day the American public will become privy to the treacheries committed by Israel, and when this day comes Israel will be held accountable for their crimes against humanity.
@CrushtheInfamy88 All of what you say proceeds from the assumption that the palestinians are not, or would not be, terrrorists (many already are) exploiters (they do this all the time) torturers (BIG into this) and "fascist"--which they, like many muslim nations certainly are. Indeed, the palestinians are some of Hitler's biggest fans. How about this quote: "Peace will come when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us." ~ Golda Meir
@oldstock1607 "No man is above the law and no man is below it; nor do we ask any mans permission when we require him to obey it" ~ Theodore Roosevelt The same rule should be applicable for states, don't you think?
@CrushtheInfamy88 And if Teddy Roosevelt were alive, I'm sure he'd at least be a tacit supporter of israel. As a realist he would certainly realize that you can't handle some of the nastiest terrorists on earth with kid gloves. Read the Hamas charter if you think these people are boy scouts.
@oldstock1607 Of course they are not going to accept the existence of Israel, on what is in fact their land. It was theirs for over 1300 years. Having it handed over by a colonial force, to the previous tenants... It is an impossible thing to accept. Would the U.S. simply hand over their land to the Native Americans? Of course not. It would never happen. And they have actually been living there all this time. They didn't move away for over a thousand years. If another country forced them to
@FluffisHamster The cold, hard fact of the matter is that the palestinians have no choice on whether they will or will not accept the existence of Israel. Israel is there to stay. And they have nuclear weapons and an apocolyptic sense of righteousness which would impell them to use them if they felt threatened. The Arabs have many nations, the Jews only one. The difference between the U.S. and native americans, and Israel and the Palestinians is that the Jews actually DID possess that region at
@oldstock1607 one time, despite a veritable ocean of revisionist history to try and disprove this fact. I am on neither side in this issue. But I am also of the belief that plunging the whole world into the abyss over a small sliver of desert land on the eastern mediterranean is just NOT worth it. All of this new anti-semitism serves to do is bring the whole world closer to the brink.
@firstnamenavarre let me turn this question back to you, rephrased. You seem to see the decline of Anglo civilization as a positive thing--yet if faced with the possibility of the dissapearace of say, the Ainu culture of North Japan, I'm sure you would see this as a horrible tragedy that must be averted, correct? So you are operating from the position of: Anglo culture bad, non-white, non-Anglo culture positive, right? Here's the crux of leftist thinking--it BEGINS with a negative outlook on the
@oldstock1607 on the culture that supported and created them. As for other examples of indigenous Anglo culture, you're right--they are dwindling. I would say that county fairs, ad rural organizations like Grangers and farmers co-ops, Farmer's markets, etc are puely Anglo in their origin. There are also many pockets of nearly unadulterated Anglo culture in the Pacific Northwest, where many cities of 30,000 or more are of majority Anglo stock. And 1,000 pardons for "annoying" you. I assuemed that
@oldstock1607 when I spent 20 minutes detailing who "they" and "them" are, it would have been clear who I was referring to. And why would a dissenting opinion "annoy" you? Are you fitting perfectly into my definiton of a leftist who is intolerant of all viewpoints (coming from other whites) that do not mesh nicely with their own? I think you are. This leftist orthodoxy training is begun in the grade schools and preached until graduation. I would say anyone who comes out of 12 years of public
@oldstock1607 school and is NOT a lifetime leftist is truly a freethinker. Leftism is the official party line of the ignorant masses. Not to detract from the achievements of Martin Luther King Jr.--but grade schools are deifying this man to children all over the U.S. I asked a 6 year-old what she knew about MLK and she said "he brought peace to our world." Really? Sounds like he's a savior when you put it that way. There can be no rational debate on this subkect until you put away your
@oldstock1607 preconcieved notions and hostility towards people with opposing views. I think you realize that everything I've said has validity, yet find it "annoying" why is that? I'm not annoyed by your statements. I agree with what you say about corporatism being the crux of all problems in the U.S.--but guess what? these problems began right at the time that Leftism became a major political force in the U.S. Check out Eisenhower's speech on the military-industrial complex. he Hippie gener
@oldstock1607 ation that arose in the 1960's set in motion the destruction of the nation by the normalization of deviant behavior, the iconoclasm of American values and the besmirching of American heroes, the eradication of national and civic pride, the deification of non-white, or non-western revolutionaries, communists, and criminals, and above all, the devaluation of white western culture and Anglo society. you say "the system is structured to benefit them"--who is them?
@oldstock1607 You misinterpret. I think Anglos should be able to eat borscht and do whatever else is a part of historical Anglo culture. That's what freedom is. But this freedom should also extend to everyone. Manifest Destiny and other contortions of John Locke (read his Second Treatise on Government) and his contemporaries fostered a smug self-importance amongst regular Europeans who actually were quite mediocre. Whole depositories of other philosophies and thoughts were wiped out. That's bad.
@oldstock1607 Culture is arbitrary and there are no laws saying anyone should be able to practice it forever. Medieval "Anglo" culture, as well as other cultures, were cruel and inhumane at certain points, that's not OK. Culture is at best a momentary adaptation to the environment, but mostly diversion. But let's look at American Anglo culture. They've destroyed it themselves through mass media and over-consumption, not because there are too many Mexican immigrants. Let's just be clear on that.
@oldstock1607 How about NAFTA and GATT? Lots of "leftists" opposed those, along with labor unions and other people who didn't want to "weaken" America, meaning weaken the standard of living for thousands of workers whose jobs were sent towards cheap labor. It strengthened the US economy, but only for corporations, executives, and those technically trained of the middle class helping the pillagers acquire their money.
@firstnamenavarre NAFTA and GATT are horrible...I'm not going to defend those. Rightists opposed those too-- anyone opposing those just had common sense.
@oldstock1607 Look. Left, right, conservative, liberal, democrat, republican - these are all empty terms whose meaning shifts constantly based upon how the mass media is compelled to depict them by their corporate and government masters. It's funny that you think "leftists" are a destructive force, because 1) they're people, not an abstract vector "degenerating force," and 2) since the early 1900's citizens have really had minimal say in how the government works, regardless of affiliation.
I am a from Saudi Arabia, and I invite Prof. Chomsky to visit us and talk to our students and journalists. People in the Middle East need to hear a moderate and respectable person like him.
Unlike other progressives who just write books and work the lecture circuit for profit, Chomsky does that AND is actually trying to do something positve. At a great personal cost as well.
Can you name one other progresisve that's been blackballed to the extent that he has? Merely for telling the truth?
I would love to see this coward for once leave his Ivory Tower and go on live television to debate someone who actually knows their history and loves this country. But more than that, I would love to see this America-hating fool and his disciples shipped off to Siberia or El Salvador or Venezuela.
Those of us with at least three neurons in our heads aren't fooled by this jerk's quiet demeanor. Nothing but lies and venom spew from his stinking orifice.
@AngstBoy42 yes it is hard to hear the truth. History is filled with american terrorism and imperialism. Thanks to Wikileaks we are getting that info out now from their own writing hand.
Your comments reeks of the aggressive white american uneducated and never left your borders. In other words; a person that has no knowlege of the world.
If you "love your country" then try and help your country from murdering civilians. A true patriot would fight against imperialism and show compassion.
@m0kkaleiavbrukernavn Funny, I've spent an extensive amount of time in Denmark, Sweden and Iceland -- so I know a little bit about your part of the world.
I live in Boston and spend half my time in Cambridge -- so I also know what that mindset is like. (and coincidentally I work about a mile from Chomsky's house in Lexington.)
As for Wikileaks, the only thing those reports show is that the threat to the free world is even greater than the media realizes.
@AngstBoy42 go look up his debates on c-span over isreal and palestine. he's not afraid to face anyone, especially on live television. also, i personally dont have to absorb every opinion of his but i can at least respect the fact that he won't ever need to use name calling to achieve his points like you have. "Venom" from his "stinking orifice"? that's pretty weak. if you can make a point than i will be willing to listen but that was only childish rhetoric.
You criticize academia and then talk about neurons in your next paragraph? You are a real piece of work. Enjoy the propaganda and benefits that science and the "ivory towers" has given you.
@AngstBoy42 Are you seriously that lazy and stupid? He's debated people like William Buckley, Foucalt, Richard Perle, and he's decimated Dershowitz on more than one occasion. There are other debates, which you should watch at some point, although I don't know if you'll be able to form an intelligent opinion because they speak quickly and use SAT diction. There is the issue which cigarshoes has brought up, which is that Chomsky's views are based on reality, which most TV-watchers can't handle.
@royalplaylist102 I don't see how you've "broken my illusion". You think because I enjoy listening to someone speak the truth that I don't see the reality? I know about profit from war. I would trade it in a heartbeat if I thought it would change anything, but the sad reality is that it wouldn't change anything at all. You are less from gone than most, you accept the reality. But seeing reality and accepting it are two different things. I see it... you've accepted it.
@FenixofWow The illusion is that Chomsky speak the truth. There is only 1 truth and it is that we will all die, the rest is only a question of perspective. So if you thought you had found the truth on youtube I broke your illusion. Anyway nice answer sorry if I sounded a bit aggressive or arrogant sometime I tend to forget that I know nothing.
Chomsky is exploiting the ignorance of people , he is basically doing what Mao always dreamed about , rewriting history on a blanc sheet a.k.a everyone raised with a television. Someone who's against exploitation wouldn't profit from it and that's what he is doing by living in our society. He should do what he always answer ironically when he is told that: go live in a cab in the wood.
@royalplaylist102 That's asking a bit much, isn't it? Chomsky is exploiting people because he tells people the truth (yes, there is such a thing as truth, he's telling people about historical events that actually happened, and of course it's from his perspective, that doesn't mean it has no value) and yet he doesn't strip naked and run off to the wilderness and abandon his family and his society and the many people who want to hear what he has to say? Isn't that an extreme, illogical position?
While I feel so helpless when I hear all of this it's a breath of fresh air to have someone credible and intellegent lay it all out on the table for me. The world could use a few more Noam Chomskys.
@FenixofWow What would it change? Are you going to stop paying your taxes in protest of the U.S aid to Israel? It's all about making you feel good , you are on the good side and people who are for war are on the bad side?All the goods we consume are cheap because of war. We exploit the planet's resource at a fast rate because they are cheap and they are cheap because we get them at the point of a gun. You , me and Chomsky we all profit from war. Sorry to break your illusion Tartuffe.
@mercuryrazvedka Hahahahah would Spinoza avoid the 9\11 question? Have you ever read Spinoza? When you look for the essence of god 5000 thieves killed by an handful of fanatics is the least of your concern. People of our generation care so much about their self it's so fucking pathetic but the game is soon coming to an end. Greatest crime in the last 20 years ...so ignorant.
The Japanese Parliament has questioned the US govts line on 9/11, along with French and German ministers with intelligence or sec portfolio's.
Noam has gone missing on the question of 9/11. Its in the way to hard basket, with the potential to marginalise him from his "North East Intellectual demographic". Makes all his previous work pale into insignificance.
9/11 is the EVENT that has ushered in LAWS ans WARS, but Noam is affraid of where the rabbit hole goes.
"Truth"? You mean the tons of different and weird conspiracy THEORIES? I hope you see a difference between truth and theory.
Also: Most of the "troofers" are ovbiously (often) naive freaks, who really just cant or wont handle the fuckin truth and swallow convenient alternatives, follow political motivated agitators and so on... thats the problem with the "911 truth movement".
Hint: Chomsky wrote more than 100 books, read some of them.
@mercuryrazvedka I don't think he's the kind of person who would make up their mind on any issue based on the thin thread of evidence in favor of any US conspiracy of 9/11. There is plenty to say about that day and many, many theories, but when it comes down to it, the "conspiracies", as I regret calling them, are based primarily on unanswered questions such as building 7 and the lack of planes at the pentagon and in Pennsylvania. =P
Those who remain silent as freedoms slip into memory will have no glory when the Savior returns.The time is NOW to become vocal. Raise your voice in defense of truth. You Tube has excellent videos of David Walker. Have you seen them? Have you shared them? PLEASE DO. Before it's too late. The internet will be no more when the Police State is triggered.
@prayfortruejustice To fight Islamic militant high on religion with Kind thoughts and understanding reason right? Damn Hippie. Try sticking flowers at in the barrel of their AK-47s and see what happens. Not everything is susceptible to a political solution. To quote Michael Caine “some men just want to watch the world burn”.
I've heard of many of his books. I've seen and heard dozens of his speeches and interviews.
But what's the most impressive thing (IMO)? Despite years of being treated like a exiled dissident in his own country, he still keeps going. Can you name one other public figure that's treated the same way? MERELY for telling the truth.
you should read his books, you'll gain a whole new appreciation that you can't get from watching watered down speeches and lectures. really, check them out at a library. His way with words is so simple he presents information so plainly and appeals to your common sense rather than to your 'emotions'.
Where will you go to when you die? Have you ever told lies, stolen, used God's name in vain, or looked at someone with lust? If yes, then you are a lying, theiving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart. When you die & stand before God you'll be guilty of breaking His law. The bible says you'll end up in Hell! So God sent God His Son Jesus to die for your sins, & He rose from the dead on the third day. If you'll believe the Gospel(Jesus died for your sins & was resurrected) you'll be saved!
I think we need to take a step back and look at the problems from a fresh perspective! It all comes down to philosophy, those who are in charge of the resources of the world have no capacity to manage or govern it. It doesn't matter how much money we have if we cannot manage it effectively.
The rich are only interested in power, however they have no interest in humanities future. The real war is to gain control of the resources of this world everything else is simply a distraction from that .
Look I hate to be that guy. But I must say that I disagree with this guy. While he is obviously an intelligent guy and I respect his opinion. I disagree with his belief that General Petraeus will loosen up on the ROE in afgahnistan. Because there has been no record of him doing that in Iraq (where he made his name). Also it is natural that if someone is constantly threatening (Unmanned Drone being the latest example "ambassador of death") you that you would keep yourself ready to fight them.
ok first off were withdrawing from iraq so thats 1 war down. Another thing is Obama did NOT cause this economic recession the Bush administration did. The economy is getting better but the fact is that it isn't getting better fast enough. If the GOP would do their job and actually get something passed maybe we would improve faster. For all those ppl that say the GOP cares about the public, tell me what ideas they come up with or if all they do is do their best to ruin Obama by blaming him.
@ZacharyPorritt Yo Zak... This just in... BOTH PARTIES ARE RESPONSIBLE... RE.. PONZI.. BLE for the collaspe of your society. Long before both you and I were in diapers they sold out the US of A and it's allied nations to the corporate or 4th estate and that my friend is a emperical fact. (Ref. Chomsky 'understanding power' 2001)
@ZacharyPorritt : Excuse me? Withdraw from Iraq? Does that mean we have no bases there? Does that mean we are not leaving behind a contingent force? We are not one war down until there are no troops there. Its just a renaming of the mission and status, but its otherwise business as usual.
@websnarf dude we have bases all over the country, even in countries were not at war with anymore. Were not out of it Iraq but thats why i said withdrawing not withdrew. Hopefully you caught that. Anyways it was renamed because the mission has changed and it will remain like this until we are completely withdrawn. I'm not trying to tear people down, but if u dont understand how withdrawing from war works then maybe you shouldnt comment.
@ZacharyPorritt Please, illuminate this issue for me, how DOES withdrawing from war work? Refer to the Video above, Obama and his administration have increased, that's INCREASED the allotted amount of funds being used in the Iraq occupation. Logically, although I must admit I am not "War Withdrawal" expert, it would stand to reason that during a period of "withdrawal" we might also withdraw our financial support for such an activity. This has not happened. Follow the money for truth.
@gaijinass They dont want to withdraw, shit they tried to privatize their economy to exploit them, thats bringing colonialism back in a huge way. It is a major criminal governmant and they deserve to be tried as such no exceptions. All criminals jsut liek the Nazis were for their wars of aggression. Especially when we know that the standards set to define thsoe crimes were made by the Americans, sheer hypocrisy.
They funded Saddam during his murders and not they must be jusdged as what they are
@gaijinass That's because we stil have to pay for the remaining soldiers there. We have less so we have to provide them with more protection until we're completely out simply because we don't have the numbers we had. You can't just start to withdraw and cut all funding before everyones out. If we don't pay to give them the best equipment they can have then there dramatically smaller numbers would make them much more appealing targets for terrorists.
@ZacharyPorritt lol the US gvt idnt even know how to withdraw, they went into the war with no plan to get out whatsoever. It was a criminal war (war of aggression is the supreme war crime as defined by who? The US gvt at Nuremberg for the Nazis Hypocrisy eh?) they murdered over 1 million Iraquis and millions before that through their criminal sanctions and before that when they funded Saddam as he gased his people.
@ZacharyPorritt WMD's were a bullshit opretext because they already knew there werent any, all lies, Then when that didnt work they said it was to bring 'democracy' lmao!! They tried to privatize their fucking economy and exploit them in a colonial fashion, major crimes. Crimes agaisnt peace, agaisnt humanity, etc... They deserve to be tried and sentenced as the criminals that they are.
Those who control the resources of the world control the destiny of us all. There is no profit in peace or in curing illness. Money = power power=control and that is all that concerns fools.
The true enemies of our species are those who's actions are detrimental to the development and evolution of our species.
The universe is not sitting still waiting for humanity to sort it's shit out! Sooner or later the next ice age, plague, or astral body will come along.
Those who control the resources of the world control the destiny of us all. There is no profit in peace or in curing illness. Money = power power=control and that is all that concerns fools.
The true enemies of our species are those who's actions are detrimental to the development and evolution of our species.
The universe is not sitting still waiting for humanity to sort it's shit out! Sooner or later the next ice age, plague, or astral body will come along.
Those who control the resources of the world control the destiny of us all. There is no profit in peace or in curing illness. Money = power power=control and that is all that concerns fools.
The true enemies of our species are those who's actions are detrimental to the development and evolution of our species.
The universe is not sitting still waiting for humanity to sort it's shit out! Sooner or later the next ice age, plague, or astral body will come along.
Those who control the resources of the world control the destiny of us all. There is no profit in peace or in curing illness. Money = power power=control and that is all that concerns fools.
The true enemies of our species are those who's actions are detrimental to the development and evolution of our species.
The universe is not sitting still waiting for humanity to sort it's shit out! Sooner or later the next ice age, plague, or astral body will come along.
Those who control the resources of the world control the destiny of us all. There is no profit in peace or in curing illness. Money = power power=control and that is all that concerns fools.
The true enemies of our species are those who's actions are detrimental to the development and evolution of our species.
The universe is not sitting still waiting for humanity to sort it's shit out! Sooner or later the next ice age, plague, or astral body will come along.
Those who control the resources of the world control the destiny of us all. There is no profit in peace or in curing illness. Money = power power=control and that is all that concerns fools.
The true enemies of our species are those who's actions are detrimental to the development and evolution of our species.
The universe is not sitting still waiting for humanity to sort it's shit out! Sooner or later the next ice age, plague, or astral body will come along.
why dont you do something while noam is still alive? organise or join present organisations and coordinate a mass uprising to combat your war hungry government and those in charge.
Chomsky can not stay on a subject. He jumps on a horse and goes in twelve directions at one time. He has no direction in his thinking. Most boring person on earth. Not worth watching.
@agent008hammer His ideas are the more coherent and logical than many of the scholars of today. I think an eight grade education would be enough to keep up with him, and a GED would make him worth watching.
@paradoxicalparabola haha. Kids with an eighth grade education would be asking themselves, "What is this guy doing on a horse that goes in twelve directions at once?" Please, kids know more than what you think they know. And kids as well as college students fall asleep with when Chomsky speaks.
Noam Chomsky opened my eyes on the world affairs. I can't really find the right words to express my self on his wisdom. I wish you well - Noam... Hope you live 200 years...
zygmuntb 2 months ago
Thank you for posting this very worthwhile 1/2 hour with Chomsky
37Dionysos 8 months ago
The american empire is falling so fast.
Such a shame
caveds 10 months ago
Chomsky says how it is....a true hero
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Dr. Chomsky recently told Iranian TV that at the time the US attacked Afganistan, they had no evidence that al Qaeda was guilty. See my video "Chomsky on Faith-based Wars and 9/11"
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
Cherish him whilst he is still here, for once he's gone, we have nobody with anything like the intellect, motivation and courage to first uncover, and then challenge the orthodoxies of western imperialism. We are fortunate that he is such a prolific analyst. Noam Chomsky is probably the only person on the planet who I remain in awe of; he challenges my inherent cynicism and impels me to further my understanding of the issues which are hindering humanity's progress. Thank you, Noam.
DaveMawer 1 year ago
Well put. It's frightening to think that he's near the end of his life. He's such an amazing man. When he's gone, there will be an enormous void to fill. Thanks for your comment.
jiggity99 1 year ago 3
@jiggity99 There will be a huge void to fill, and nobody could replicate Chomsky. However, in regards to politics Paul Street is close to Chomsky's equal in examining US politics, and Andrej Grubagic has Chomsky's anarcho-sydycalist viewpoints.
I'm sure when Chomsky was a young man he would look up to his political elders and wonder "how could anyone fill those shoes?"
spartan2600 11 months ago
@oldstock1607 Humor me for a moment and concretely define "leftism." While you're at it, please give an example in history of how this "leftism" is actually self-destructive and all of the other things you attribute to it. By the by, how is Chomsky an extremist again? And what does being a Jew (we capitalize proper nouns in English) have to do with this vague "leftism" and his being an extremist? Let's begin with explications rather than from proclamations. It's more productive that way.
firstnamenavarre 1 year ago
@firstnamenavarre I'll certainly try...I would say that a leftist is one who worships weakness, abhors strength, and seeks to reduce all of human history to a scathing indictment of the character of the white, western male. A leftist believes that all matters of morality and honor are completely objective and relative, and takes an uncritical, almost fawning view of all that he percieves as non-white, non-western, non-English speaking culture. I would say that a leftist praises all that is
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 diametrically opposed to western civilization and its values as good and honorable, and all that is western and Eurpean as dishonorable and bad. A leftist is tolerant of extreme intolerance PROVIDED that that intolerance is coming from a non-white, non-western male. Example: nazis = worst people to ever live, radical muslims = righteous. Even though the two groups have ideologies that are strikingly similar, leftists give muslims a pass, because they are non-white, non-western.
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 A leftist sees fault only in his/her own culture, is constantly apologizing for and excusing--at times even praising--the actions of our enemies regardless of how barbaric and criminal they may be. An anglo leftist is ashamed of their skin color and their culture. Despite the fact that their ilk outnumbers others with dissenting worldviews, they also smugly believe that their point of view is somehow more "enlightened" "progressive" and "Alternative" than the views of others.
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 America works for corporations, always, and it's absurd for you to direct your anger at fellow citizens when the real degenerating force is the structure of the system. You want to know why wages are falling, unemployment is rising, and yet corporations have record profits? The system is structured to benefit them, not citizens. Don't turn people in to abstract ideas. They're real people with real grievances, and it's counterproductive to blame them rather than analyze the problem.
firstnamenavarre 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 Anglo culture has long been dead in America, along with everyone else's culture. All culture eventually withers in the face of consumerism and mass media. Name ONE widely practiced Anglo culture in America that isn't sports. You're so irritating, you keep saying "they" and "them," well who are they? Go find them on the street. And if you have a serious problem with "them," then be a "man" and take up your concerns instead of fuming impotently on the internet.
firstnamenavarre 1 year ago
@firstnamenavarre of course, those are just my impressions. I would say that Chomsky is an extremist in that he has openly proclaimed his support for Hamas and Hezbollah--two organizations which no matter how you slice it, are some of the nastiest terrorist organizations in the entire world. Chomsky's being a Jew is also indicative of this self-loathing, self-destructive nature attributable to leftist-extremists. The very people he defends would murder him in a saint's whisper. In short,
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 I would say that leftists are shorn of and fundamentally reject all of the survival instinct inherent in the human species. While they proclaim to wat what is "best" for their nation or political unit, their proposals are nearly always of a weakening, degenerative force. As for examples. I could truly go on for hours. The most poignant example that I can think of at the moment are the liberals in the Britsh parliament whose striving for a multicultural society through unrestrained
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 immigration threatens to destroy the indigenous culture of the isles. While I have no problems with gays, I also fail to see how their being openly so in the military is going to "strengthen" the military. The leftists that supported the Mosque at ground Zero truly sickened me--what was their motive? That was the moral equivalent of emasculating yourself with a straight razor and handing your severed genitals to those who have preached your destruction and lambasted your weakness.
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 While I'm rambling, I should add that leftists have, in the past, and continue to promote a feminization of the American male and a simultaneous masculinization of the American female All of modern American leftism is the product of the hippie generation, which was, like communism with which it shares much common ground, promulgated by secular Jews. Before you respond, do not assume that I am a conservative--I have critical views of them as well. I a a secular Libertarian atheist.
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 Yes, the loss of the "indigenous" culture of the isles would truly be a loss, especially when dozens of indigenous cultures are threatened all around the world, and many more already decimated according to greedy arrogant contortions of Western philosophy. So that's fine, as long as they're not white? Your views are so incredibly out of touch with facts and utterly lack any kind of compassion for human beings that it's hopeless for me to try to talk with you. Bye.
firstnamenavarre 1 year ago
@firstnamenavarre And I can see by your response that you are everything I've described. Your statement is like an exclamation mark for my definition of the typical leftist.
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 You also talk about "survival instincts" or something. How about this, the survival of the species relies on its ability to nurture diversity not only in biological traits, but in culture and ideas. We and all life evolved in a dynamic environment, and survival of the group depends on flexibility, having diverse traits in reserve so that the species isn't lost to the first environmental stress. Homogenization is death in the long-term, but it seems to be what you're promoting.
firstnamenavarre 1 year ago
@firstnamenavarre well, the human species is under no threat of extinction anytime soon. But hey, we also know that "diversity" is only considered a "good" thing when it consits of traditionally white cultures granting concessions and being on the losing end of immigration, and the destruction of their own culture. Hell, the very term "racist" is a racist term--I NEVER hear that word applied to anyone OTHER THAN whites. It appears that only whites are capable of being racist, right?
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 I don't have hostility towards differing views, you're just ignorant and dumb. To you, "they" seem to be anyone who isn't white. News: I'm not white, I'm Mexican. My grandfather gained citizenship by fighting WWII. My dad is a retired master chief (30 years) in the Navy serving in Iraq as a contractor. I'm applying to PhD programs in computational neuroscience, and I read widely in European philosophy in my free time. How am I destroying your "Anglo" farmer's markets, again?
firstnamenavarre 1 year ago
@firstnamenavarre really? no hostility--yet you resort to calling me "ignorant and dumb." here's a tip: if you intend to survive in the academic world--and particularly if you're pursuing a Doctorate, refrain from calling people (particularly those, like me, who are certainly not) "ignorant and dumb." Any credibility you once had with me as an intellectual was destroyed by your word choice. Doctors don't call people names.
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@firstnamenavarre Thank you for mentioning diversity (In the racial sense I assume you mean) I often hear leftists saying that the offspring of interracial relationships make the human species stronger and more disease resistant through the promotion ofgenetic diversity--yet science has proven that there is more diversity WITHIN races than there is BETWEEN races, which pretty handily invalidates this claim. While I have no problem with these relationships, leftists should just be honest and
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 admit that the reason that they like to see these relationships has nothing to do with percieved benefits to human genetics, but because they see it as one small step in the subsumation of the Caucasian bloodline.
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 You don't speak the language of logic or facts, moreover, your world view is hostile to me. It results in the destruction and exploitation of people like me based on the circumstances of national origin and appearance because you think I don't exist. I'm a "leftist," a "non-white," or some other arbitrary categorization. What research are you talking about? Just look up Hardy-Weinberg genetics. Inbreeding results in the complete loss of alleles in populations. Nice chatting, bye.
firstnamenavarre 1 year ago
@firstnamenavarre I don't speak the language of logic orfacts? or just not the logic and facts that you are comfortable with? And how is my pointing out that white American leftists are inadvertently destroying their cultural inheritance threatening to you? And my worldview "results in the destruction and exploitation of people like [you]? Man. you have drunk long and deep from th fnt of left-wing extremism. I would say that it is definitely YOUR worldview that has killed all rational discourse
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@firstnamenavarre Lika a child who sticks its fingers in its ears and shouts "LALALALALA" when being told something it doesn't want to hear, you are truly hostile towards any opposing viewpoint. Enjoy the left-wing hegemony over academia while it lasts, because when the backlash against you occurs, it is going to happen in a major way. You Academia-nazis have ruled universitites for over 40 years and your time is about up. You can't disregard all opinions that don't conform to your own forever.
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 Isn't that what fascists propose, to burn the books, and smash the intellectual centres of education, creation and invention? It's kind of ironic that you use the word nazi when, arguably, the only way to unseat "Academia-nazis" is to destroy the environment in which they thrive. Although by no means a universality, most academics are left wing. Why are corporations largely governed by rightists and academic bodies generally governed by leftists? I'd trust Chomsky before Ken Lay.
DaveMawer 1 year ago
@DaveMawer I never proposed book-burning, or "smashing the intellectual centres of education"--don't put words in my mouth. And there IS a way to unseat Acedemia-nazis--change the paradigm so tht they MUST abandon their agendas. Lecture halls are not pulpits for promoting their leftist agendas and Universities are not indoctrination camps. Most academics are left-wing because they've been raised in the hothouse of leftist extremism. Those that have done time in the real world are not. And corp-
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 orations are ususally run by apolitical people. I'm not saying that University professors should have a rightist agend, I'm saying that they should have NO agenda. I see that you're a Chomsky-worshipper, so I won't comment on him, but I'd trust Pat Buchanan to run the country before I would Chomsky.
oldstock1607 1 year ago
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shallbeagain 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 hes just stating straight facts wtf are you so infuriated about, and youre the one afraid of opposing views obviously. If you think we go to war for freedom youre truly retarded, now if you think we should invade on the basis of economic tactics atleast you understand the truth but you would also be a sociopath..........by the way this is how youre right wing demigods talk about wars (based in reality) behind closed doors i doubt they pedal the whole freedom thing to eachother
85mariapatricia 1 year ago
@85mariapatricia infuriated? I'm SO not infurated. Maybe you should read some of my earlier posts. And, as many have before you--you have jumped to the conclusion that I am a rightist simply because I have identified myself as a non-leftist. (there is a middle ground, you know) My critique of Chomsky is not that he's not an intellectual--clearly he's one of the leading intellectual lights of our times. HOWEVER, I believe that his humanist agenda has overriden his true sense of logic. That's all.
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 You are a "rightist". It doesn't need to be explained that you believe that Chomsky's "humanist" (left) agenda is his only flaw. I suggest that next time, just say "I am a republican" so that we can all ignore your statement and continue on with intellectual discourse which would spare us your useless backpedal-ling. Noam Chomsky offers 150 books, all perfectly cited and accurate. He is widely cited as "most important intellectual alive". Do you think you're smarter than this man?
CackSlop666 8 months ago
@CackSlop666 Sir, If i were to say "I am a republican" I would be lying. I am most certainly not a republican. How is it that you dreadlock-sporting types--yourselves ostensibly hostile to labels-are so quick to pigeonhole those with dissenting opinions as "republicans" or "rightists?" Is everything a partisan political struggle to you? In one sense I am smarter than Noam Chomsky. I understand quite well that no amount of pressure from the American left is going to coerce the israelis to
oldstock1607 7 months ago
@oldstock1607 surrender one milimeter of land. All of Mr. Chomsky's (admittedly) well-written, well-cited books are not going to change this. It is neither right, nor left, it just IS.
oldstock1607 7 months ago
@oldstock1607 Perhaps not... But something HAS to be done. You can't just stick your head in the sand, and pretend that it doesn't exist. And no; I don't think you are smarter than Noam Chomsky... in any sense of the word. Don't you think he KNOWS the argument you're using? Don't you think he's run it through his head hundreds of times? Because if you don't, then you are most definitely not smarter than him. The thing is; he's seen those arguments, and KNOWS that they are flawed.
FluffisHamster 5 months ago
@FluffisHamster So then...what is the BEST case scenario? The Israelis pack up all of their belongings and leave the region entirely? That is simply not going to happen. Ever. After the holocaust, the Jews would gladly cast the world into the abyss rather than admit defeat, or permit Israel to become a failed state, coerced out of existence by the desires of extreme leftists, extreme rightists and the majority of the world's muslims. They will not do this. So then what is the goal? To further
oldstock1607 5 months ago
@oldstock1607 radicalize the Israelis? What is the mission statement? if there even is one. All Chomsky is doing is what leftists have been doing for over 40 years-providing criticism without providing viable solutions. I may not be smarter than Chomsky, but I firmly believe that I have a better grasp of Zionist nature than he has, and quite possibly a better grasp of the course of human history as well. If he thinks he can chat Israel out of existence, then he is no smarter than a barroom drunk
oldstock1607 5 months ago
@oldstock1607 If you believe that you have a better grasp of Zionist nature, then you are delusional. I'm sorry, but it's true. Of course he can't "chat Israel out of existence". He's doing the only thing he truly can do, which is to inform, argue and persuade. He's an academic, not a politician or diplomat. It's not his JOB to tell politicians how to do their job. It's to give them perspective, and helping them make informed decisions.
FluffisHamster 5 months ago
@oldstock1607 No, the best case scenario is both peoples living in peace. If I knew how to make things like that happen, or how to simply stay the hostilities, I wouldn't be on YouTube arguing this with you. I'd be out there doing it. Nobody is saying that this is easy. Most people believe Israel/Palestine is a LOST CAUSE. That there is no way whatsoever to end it. I just know that the U.S. either backing one side or outright ignoring the whole thing, is NOT the way to go.
FluffisHamster 5 months ago
@FluffisHamster The route to peace would involve the Palestinians accepting the existence of Israel, ALSO something that is never going to happen, since muslims (worldwide) and the rest of the world refuse to accept that anti-semitism is a fundamental tenet of islam. If the palestinians would cease fire entirely, the killing would stop--but of course they are never going to do that. Do not forget, the palestinians were offered their own state long ago, and out of sheer vindictiveness, flatly
oldstock1607 5 months ago
@oldstock1607 refused it. And you're right, it is not Chomsky's job to tell politicians what to do, it is his job to teach at a university. Where Chomsky fails miserably is in not taking the Palestinians to task on THEIR behavior as well. He has all but praised hamas and hizbollah. How is this productive to ANY end? Is supporting terrorism "enlightened?" Tell you what--e-mail me in 20 years and tell me if anything is any diffferent in that region. If it is, I will retract everything I've said.
oldstock1607 5 months ago
@oldstock1607 But we both know it won't be, don't we? because it IS a lost cause. You simply cannot take a side on this issue, persecute one group of participants, while ignoring the crimes of the other side and expect to affect any positive change. And if you think that Chomsky's opinions on the matter are wholly guided by logic and are not tinged by emotion or personal prejuduces whatsoever then YOU are the delusional one. On this issue, Chomsky speaks from a position of ZERO authority. And do
oldstock1607 5 months ago
@oldstock1607 not also forget that Chomsky's area of expertise is in LINGUISTICS. He is not a political scientist, not an historian, not an expert on middle eastern affairs, not a diplomat. He has been given carte blanche on all of these subjects merely because he is a leftist demi-god. He is an "honorary" expert on the middle east for this very reason.
oldstock1607 5 months ago
@oldstock1607 Yes, that is his main area of expertise. That doesn't mean that he's ignorant about everything else.
FluffisHamster 5 months ago
@oldstock1607 My friend.. "persecuting one group of participants and ignoring the crimes of the other side" is what the U.S. have been doing for DECADES.
FluffisHamster 5 months ago
@FluffisHamster I don't recall saying that the U.S. was blameless on the whole matter.
oldstock1607 5 months ago
@oldstock1607 ... then why are you arguing against him?
FluffisHamster 5 months ago
@FluffisHamster For the reasons I have enumerated. 1. He offers no viable solution--only criticism. 2. He is unrealistic on the matter. 2. He is critical ONLY of the jews in this matter, 3. He is supportive of organizations whose behavior is arguably more reprehensible than the Israelis, and 5. He is speaking on subjects that are outside of his realm of expertise and gets undue respect for doing so simply because he is a prominent leftist, and criticizing israel is the cause celebre of leftism
oldstock1607 5 months ago
I'm just going to leave this discussion, because it is going nowhere.
FluffisHamster 5 months ago
@FluffisHamster Agreed. I will, however, leave you with the parting advice that in the future, you do not uncritically accept everything that leaves this man's mouth simply because he is who he is. He is just a man, and is fallible.
oldstock1607 5 months ago
@oldstock1607
heh, quick read, you lost vs @Fluffishamster. a fragment i noted: "he is critical ONLY of the jews in the matter", wrong, he is not. Critisism of israel is actually pretty standard in non-US countries.
RipTheJackR 4 months ago
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oldstock1607 3 months ago
@RipTheJackR yes, Chomsky always leves himself an out when pontificating on any subject, by throwing out a droll, half-hearted "well, of course I don't supprot terrorism," or "of course I don't condone piracy." Let's put it this way: he's SO critical of the palestinians that he has met with the leaders of Hamas on several seperate occassions. Yep. that's your hero--cozying up to some of the biggest shit-ass terrorists on earth.
oldstock1607 3 months ago
@RipTheJackR oh how very disconcerting that you think I "lost." The funny thing Is, I could have laid out the most articulate and well-reasoned argument on earth, and "fluffishamster" could have come back with something like "fuck you, cocksucker," and you would STILL be saying I "lost." Why? because fluffishamster and Noam Chomsky are preaching to the already-converted. You.
oldstock1607 3 months ago
@oldstock1607 Speaking of subjects that are outside his realm? The man has dedicated his life to academia, a fool such as yourself does not get to dictate which "subjects" a much finer man may or may not speak about.
CrushtheInfamy88 3 months ago
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oldstock1607 3 months ago
@CrushtheInfamy88 Yeah, well, he's also a linguist by education. i don't know of any other academician who is granted such arbitrary sway on every subject under the sun. And you've fallen into the same lame trap: Chomsky is one of the world's leading intellectuals, so NO ONE ON EARTH could POSSIBLY have a valid criticism of ANYTHING he says. Well, young man, he talks straight out oh his ass on the Israeli-Palestinian issue every single day. Fuck Noam Trotsky. I'll be glad when he's gone.
oldstock1607 3 months ago
@oldstock1607 Chomsky always speaks objectively. His job is to relay facts rather than to share his opinions. You say he is talking out of his ass? Perhaps you can point out specifically where he does so then. If you're going to accuse the most revered intellectual in the world of charlatanism provide proofs, or else nobody gives a shit about your opinions. Also, Zionist, would the rest of the world with the exception of the US and Israel be wrong as well then?
CrushtheInfamy88 3 months ago
@CrushtheInfamy88 Thanks for striking at the very root of the problem with your use of the term "revered intellectual." So, because Chomsky is "revered" he is totally above criticism? Your hero here is a well-known fraud, with a history of distorting facts to lend credibility ot his ideological extremism. Rather than enumerate the myriad lies and distoritions Chomsky has perpetrated, I'll direct you to "The top 200 Chomsky Lies," compiled by Paul Bogdanor. Google it.
oldstock1607 3 months ago
@CrushtheInfamy88 And I see that you, like many leftists, fell that calling someone a "zionist" is an epithet on a par with "motherfucker." Let me explain some basic Political science to you. As the world's premier military power, it is the duty of the U.S. to prevent Israel from being attacked. If the U.S. completely withdrew support for Israel, 40+ muslim nations would immediately pounce, prompting the Jews to (undoubtedly) retaliate with nuclear warheads. That would be a calamity for the
oldstock1607 3 months ago
@oldstock1607 entire world, not just the Middle east. And here's another bit of info, leftist--this is not truly an issue of territory. Despite what you may have heard, Muslims have a historical hatred for the Jews that antedates the establishment of Israel by over 1300 years. So maybe the destruction of the earth is a worthy price for your anti-semitism, but as for me, they can have that shitty little piece of desert. Muslims are never going to be happy anyway.
oldstock1607 3 months ago
@oldstock1607Murderer, terrorist, exploiter, torturer, fascist - these are words synonymous with Zionist. Allow me to give you a rudimentary lesson in political science, professor; the foremost objective of any politician is reelection. One day the American public will become privy to the treacheries committed by Israel, and when this day comes Israel will be held accountable for their crimes against humanity.
CrushtheInfamy88 3 months ago
@CrushtheInfamy88 All of what you say proceeds from the assumption that the palestinians are not, or would not be, terrrorists (many already are) exploiters (they do this all the time) torturers (BIG into this) and "fascist"--which they, like many muslim nations certainly are. Indeed, the palestinians are some of Hitler's biggest fans. How about this quote: "Peace will come when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us." ~ Golda Meir
oldstock1607 3 months ago
@oldstock1607 "No man is above the law and no man is below it; nor do we ask any mans permission when we require him to obey it" ~ Theodore Roosevelt The same rule should be applicable for states, don't you think?
CrushtheInfamy88 3 months ago
@CrushtheInfamy88 And if Teddy Roosevelt were alive, I'm sure he'd at least be a tacit supporter of israel. As a realist he would certainly realize that you can't handle some of the nastiest terrorists on earth with kid gloves. Read the Hamas charter if you think these people are boy scouts.
oldstock1607 3 months ago
@oldstock1607 Of course they are not going to accept the existence of Israel, on what is in fact their land. It was theirs for over 1300 years. Having it handed over by a colonial force, to the previous tenants... It is an impossible thing to accept. Would the U.S. simply hand over their land to the Native Americans? Of course not. It would never happen. And they have actually been living there all this time. They didn't move away for over a thousand years. If another country forced them to
FluffisHamster 5 months ago
@FluffisHamster The cold, hard fact of the matter is that the palestinians have no choice on whether they will or will not accept the existence of Israel. Israel is there to stay. And they have nuclear weapons and an apocolyptic sense of righteousness which would impell them to use them if they felt threatened. The Arabs have many nations, the Jews only one. The difference between the U.S. and native americans, and Israel and the Palestinians is that the Jews actually DID possess that region at
oldstock1607 5 months ago
@oldstock1607 one time, despite a veritable ocean of revisionist history to try and disprove this fact. I am on neither side in this issue. But I am also of the belief that plunging the whole world into the abyss over a small sliver of desert land on the eastern mediterranean is just NOT worth it. All of this new anti-semitism serves to do is bring the whole world closer to the brink.
oldstock1607 5 months ago
@oldstock1607 ...wouldn't you fight back? The U.S. have been taking the Palestinians to task for a long time. I don't think Chomsky needs to do it.
FluffisHamster 5 months ago
@firstnamenavarre let me turn this question back to you, rephrased. You seem to see the decline of Anglo civilization as a positive thing--yet if faced with the possibility of the dissapearace of say, the Ainu culture of North Japan, I'm sure you would see this as a horrible tragedy that must be averted, correct? So you are operating from the position of: Anglo culture bad, non-white, non-Anglo culture positive, right? Here's the crux of leftist thinking--it BEGINS with a negative outlook on the
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 on the culture that supported and created them. As for other examples of indigenous Anglo culture, you're right--they are dwindling. I would say that county fairs, ad rural organizations like Grangers and farmers co-ops, Farmer's markets, etc are puely Anglo in their origin. There are also many pockets of nearly unadulterated Anglo culture in the Pacific Northwest, where many cities of 30,000 or more are of majority Anglo stock. And 1,000 pardons for "annoying" you. I assuemed that
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 when I spent 20 minutes detailing who "they" and "them" are, it would have been clear who I was referring to. And why would a dissenting opinion "annoy" you? Are you fitting perfectly into my definiton of a leftist who is intolerant of all viewpoints (coming from other whites) that do not mesh nicely with their own? I think you are. This leftist orthodoxy training is begun in the grade schools and preached until graduation. I would say anyone who comes out of 12 years of public
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 school and is NOT a lifetime leftist is truly a freethinker. Leftism is the official party line of the ignorant masses. Not to detract from the achievements of Martin Luther King Jr.--but grade schools are deifying this man to children all over the U.S. I asked a 6 year-old what she knew about MLK and she said "he brought peace to our world." Really? Sounds like he's a savior when you put it that way. There can be no rational debate on this subkect until you put away your
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 preconcieved notions and hostility towards people with opposing views. I think you realize that everything I've said has validity, yet find it "annoying" why is that? I'm not annoyed by your statements. I agree with what you say about corporatism being the crux of all problems in the U.S.--but guess what? these problems began right at the time that Leftism became a major political force in the U.S. Check out Eisenhower's speech on the military-industrial complex. he Hippie gener
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 ation that arose in the 1960's set in motion the destruction of the nation by the normalization of deviant behavior, the iconoclasm of American values and the besmirching of American heroes, the eradication of national and civic pride, the deification of non-white, or non-western revolutionaries, communists, and criminals, and above all, the devaluation of white western culture and Anglo society. you say "the system is structured to benefit them"--who is them?
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 You misinterpret. I think Anglos should be able to eat borscht and do whatever else is a part of historical Anglo culture. That's what freedom is. But this freedom should also extend to everyone. Manifest Destiny and other contortions of John Locke (read his Second Treatise on Government) and his contemporaries fostered a smug self-importance amongst regular Europeans who actually were quite mediocre. Whole depositories of other philosophies and thoughts were wiped out. That's bad.
firstnamenavarre 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 Culture is arbitrary and there are no laws saying anyone should be able to practice it forever. Medieval "Anglo" culture, as well as other cultures, were cruel and inhumane at certain points, that's not OK. Culture is at best a momentary adaptation to the environment, but mostly diversion. But let's look at American Anglo culture. They've destroyed it themselves through mass media and over-consumption, not because there are too many Mexican immigrants. Let's just be clear on that.
firstnamenavarre 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 How about NAFTA and GATT? Lots of "leftists" opposed those, along with labor unions and other people who didn't want to "weaken" America, meaning weaken the standard of living for thousands of workers whose jobs were sent towards cheap labor. It strengthened the US economy, but only for corporations, executives, and those technically trained of the middle class helping the pillagers acquire their money.
firstnamenavarre 1 year ago
@firstnamenavarre NAFTA and GATT are horrible...I'm not going to defend those. Rightists opposed those too-- anyone opposing those just had common sense.
oldstock1607 1 year ago
@oldstock1607 Look. Left, right, conservative, liberal, democrat, republican - these are all empty terms whose meaning shifts constantly based upon how the mass media is compelled to depict them by their corporate and government masters. It's funny that you think "leftists" are a destructive force, because 1) they're people, not an abstract vector "degenerating force," and 2) since the early 1900's citizens have really had minimal say in how the government works, regardless of affiliation.
firstnamenavarre 1 year ago
He said by accident that the 'Declaration of Principles' was issued in November 2000, but it was in November 2007 in case you want to look it up.
Bellantoni 1 year ago
sick of all these wars they say they want peace its alllbullshit with the money spent on war ppl could be fed and live in homes itts discusting.
lynnej1970 1 year ago
I am a from Saudi Arabia, and I invite Prof. Chomsky to visit us and talk to our students and journalists. People in the Middle East need to hear a moderate and respectable person like him.
Ozaam 1 year ago
In many ways, Chomsky is the Sakkarov of the 21st century. Yet, unlike Sakkarov, he's not banned from leaving Boston and can freely travel.
whereismybailouttv 1 year ago
Unlike other progressives who just write books and work the lecture circuit for profit, Chomsky does that AND is actually trying to do something positve. At a great personal cost as well.
Can you name one other progresisve that's been blackballed to the extent that he has? Merely for telling the truth?
whereismybailouttv 1 year ago
If there were any justice in the world Noam Chomsky would live forever.
newdimensionfilms 1 year ago
I would love to see this coward for once leave his Ivory Tower and go on live television to debate someone who actually knows their history and loves this country. But more than that, I would love to see this America-hating fool and his disciples shipped off to Siberia or El Salvador or Venezuela.
Those of us with at least three neurons in our heads aren't fooled by this jerk's quiet demeanor. Nothing but lies and venom spew from his stinking orifice.
AngstBoy42 1 year ago
@AngstBoy42 yes it is hard to hear the truth. History is filled with american terrorism and imperialism. Thanks to Wikileaks we are getting that info out now from their own writing hand.
Your comments reeks of the aggressive white american uneducated and never left your borders. In other words; a person that has no knowlege of the world.
If you "love your country" then try and help your country from murdering civilians. A true patriot would fight against imperialism and show compassion.
m0kkaleiavbrukernavn 1 year ago
@m0kkaleiavbrukernavn Funny, I've spent an extensive amount of time in Denmark, Sweden and Iceland -- so I know a little bit about your part of the world.
I live in Boston and spend half my time in Cambridge -- so I also know what that mindset is like. (and coincidentally I work about a mile from Chomsky's house in Lexington.)
As for Wikileaks, the only thing those reports show is that the threat to the free world is even greater than the media realizes.
Chomsky was and is a delusional liar.
AngstBoy42 1 year ago
@AngstBoy42
So perhaps you have left your borders, but you are surely uneducated. Actually, I hope you are just very misinformed or a troll.
WorldPeace4All6 1 year ago
@AngstBoy42 no u
Harmonyww 1 year ago
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AngstBoy42 1 year ago
@AngstBoy42 go look up his debates on c-span over isreal and palestine. he's not afraid to face anyone, especially on live television. also, i personally dont have to absorb every opinion of his but i can at least respect the fact that he won't ever need to use name calling to achieve his points like you have. "Venom" from his "stinking orifice"? that's pretty weak. if you can make a point than i will be willing to listen but that was only childish rhetoric.
campnolime 1 year ago
@AngstBoy42
You criticize academia and then talk about neurons in your next paragraph? You are a real piece of work. Enjoy the propaganda and benefits that science and the "ivory towers" has given you.
WorldPeace4All6 1 year ago
@AngstBoy42 Are you seriously that lazy and stupid? He's debated people like William Buckley, Foucalt, Richard Perle, and he's decimated Dershowitz on more than one occasion. There are other debates, which you should watch at some point, although I don't know if you'll be able to form an intelligent opinion because they speak quickly and use SAT diction. There is the issue which cigarshoes has brought up, which is that Chomsky's views are based on reality, which most TV-watchers can't handle.
firstnamenavarre 1 year ago
@royalplaylist102 I don't see how you've "broken my illusion". You think because I enjoy listening to someone speak the truth that I don't see the reality? I know about profit from war. I would trade it in a heartbeat if I thought it would change anything, but the sad reality is that it wouldn't change anything at all. You are less from gone than most, you accept the reality. But seeing reality and accepting it are two different things. I see it... you've accepted it.
FenixofWow 1 year ago
@FenixofWow The illusion is that Chomsky speak the truth. There is only 1 truth and it is that we will all die, the rest is only a question of perspective. So if you thought you had found the truth on youtube I broke your illusion. Anyway nice answer sorry if I sounded a bit aggressive or arrogant sometime I tend to forget that I know nothing.
royalplaylist102 1 year ago
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royalplaylist102 1 year ago
Chomsky is exploiting the ignorance of people , he is basically doing what Mao always dreamed about , rewriting history on a blanc sheet a.k.a everyone raised with a television. Someone who's against exploitation wouldn't profit from it and that's what he is doing by living in our society. He should do what he always answer ironically when he is told that: go live in a cab in the wood.
royalplaylist102 1 year ago
@royalplaylist102 That's asking a bit much, isn't it? Chomsky is exploiting people because he tells people the truth (yes, there is such a thing as truth, he's telling people about historical events that actually happened, and of course it's from his perspective, that doesn't mean it has no value) and yet he doesn't strip naked and run off to the wilderness and abandon his family and his society and the many people who want to hear what he has to say? Isn't that an extreme, illogical position?
n8glenn 1 year ago
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Adlasyn 1 year ago
While I feel so helpless when I hear all of this it's a breath of fresh air to have someone credible and intellegent lay it all out on the table for me. The world could use a few more Noam Chomskys.
FenixofWow 1 year ago
@FenixofWow What would it change? Are you going to stop paying your taxes in protest of the U.S aid to Israel? It's all about making you feel good , you are on the good side and people who are for war are on the bad side?All the goods we consume are cheap because of war. We exploit the planet's resource at a fast rate because they are cheap and they are cheap because we get them at the point of a gun. You , me and Chomsky we all profit from war. Sorry to break your illusion Tartuffe.
royalplaylist102 1 year ago
You are only as good as your last book or analysis, Noam will die a vapid sholar without examining 9/11.
Would Spinoza avoid the 9/11 question, NO!
Noam is devoid moral conviction on the greatest crime in the last twenty years. Erodes all previous credibility on his study outside linguistics.
When you meet the old man ask him again on 9/11 and watch him sidestep like a tap dancer!
Pathetic, Vapid, hollow man marking time before he dies!
Don't make excuses for him!
mercuryrazvedka 1 year ago
@mercuryrazvedka Hahahahah would Spinoza avoid the 9\11 question? Have you ever read Spinoza? When you look for the essence of god 5000 thieves killed by an handful of fanatics is the least of your concern. People of our generation care so much about their self it's so fucking pathetic but the game is soon coming to an end. Greatest crime in the last 20 years ...so ignorant.
royalplaylist102 1 year ago
@mercuryrazvedka the greatest crime int he last twenty years?? hahaha another introverted American
MarioBrosClassic 1 year ago
The Japanese Parliament has questioned the US govts line on 9/11, along with French and German ministers with intelligence or sec portfolio's.
Noam has gone missing on the question of 9/11. Its in the way to hard basket, with the potential to marginalise him from his "North East Intellectual demographic". Makes all his previous work pale into insignificance.
9/11 is the EVENT that has ushered in LAWS ans WARS, but Noam is affraid of where the rabbit hole goes.
mercuryrazvedka 1 year ago
Noam Chomsky lost my respect when he sherked it on Al CIAeda and 9/11. :(
mercuryrazvedka 1 year ago
@mercuryrazvedka What do you mean?
bfoaliali 1 year ago
@bfoaliali Will not touch 9/11 truth (ala German Minister for Def) & the link between the CIA and Al Qaeda (ala Kitson's 'Gangs & Counter Gangs').
mercuryrazvedka 1 year ago
@mercuryrazvedka
"Will not touch 9/11 truth...."
"Truth"? You mean the tons of different and weird conspiracy THEORIES? I hope you see a difference between truth and theory.
Also: Most of the "troofers" are ovbiously (often) naive freaks, who really just cant or wont handle the fuckin truth and swallow convenient alternatives, follow political motivated agitators and so on... thats the problem with the "911 truth movement".
Hint: Chomsky wrote more than 100 books, read some of them.
aerobique 1 year ago
@mercuryrazvedka I don't think he's the kind of person who would make up their mind on any issue based on the thin thread of evidence in favor of any US conspiracy of 9/11. There is plenty to say about that day and many, many theories, but when it comes down to it, the "conspiracies", as I regret calling them, are based primarily on unanswered questions such as building 7 and the lack of planes at the pentagon and in Pennsylvania. =P
It just wasn't enough =/
JessAtlas 1 year ago
@mercuryrazvedka He still has great things to say about many many other things. You can't not respect only because of his views on 9/11.
Jockas4 1 year ago
@terminatoreggs moron!
8KeyserSoze8 1 year ago
Those who remain silent as freedoms slip into memory will have no glory when the Savior returns.The time is NOW to become vocal. Raise your voice in defense of truth. You Tube has excellent videos of David Walker. Have you seen them? Have you shared them? PLEASE DO. Before it's too late. The internet will be no more when the Police State is triggered.
MegaFlyingPilot 1 year ago
Doesn't matter where he's talking, there's always a big pile of books behind him.
jesal21 1 year ago 19
@jesal21 guys's written over a hundred books and he still responds to all of his emails within hours. try it sometime.
rysw19 11 months ago
@jesal21 When I saw him in Madison last year he had no books piled behind him, unless they were behind the curtain backdrop...
herdpoisoning 9 months ago
Imagine Peace
Imagine Chomsky as Secretary of State - is a Ron Paul and Denis Kucinich administration. The MIC would disappear.
We need a Dept. of Peace.
prayfortruejustice 1 year ago 5
@prayfortruejustice To fight Islamic militant high on religion with Kind thoughts and understanding reason right? Damn Hippie. Try sticking flowers at in the barrel of their AK-47s and see what happens. Not everything is susceptible to a political solution. To quote Michael Caine “some men just want to watch the world burn”.
44warjunkie 1 year ago
@prayfortruejustice It would be against his principles to run a country.
snakeweirdo 11 months ago 9
Enjoyed this from this wise older gentleman, Thank you for this information. Stephen Ward
ste6666666 1 year ago
I've heard of many of his books. I've seen and heard dozens of his speeches and interviews.
But what's the most impressive thing (IMO)? Despite years of being treated like a exiled dissident in his own country, he still keeps going. Can you name one other public figure that's treated the same way? MERELY for telling the truth.
whereismybailouttv 1 year ago 8
I agree. He's such an amazing person- an unwavering humanist. He's at the top of my list of heroes.
jiggity99 1 year ago
@whereismybailouttv
you should read his books, you'll gain a whole new appreciation that you can't get from watching watered down speeches and lectures. really, check them out at a library. His way with words is so simple he presents information so plainly and appeals to your common sense rather than to your 'emotions'.
zlovektown 1 year ago 3
Viva Noam !!!
The best professor in the world, with Edgard Morin :)
thx++
annadivx2010 1 year ago 2
Cogent, direct & pointed; long live Chomsky!
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gramosjr7 1 year ago
I think we need to take a step back and look at the problems from a fresh perspective! It all comes down to philosophy, those who are in charge of the resources of the world have no capacity to manage or govern it. It doesn't matter how much money we have if we cannot manage it effectively.
The rich are only interested in power, however they have no interest in humanities future. The real war is to gain control of the resources of this world everything else is simply a distraction from that .
KaeSae1 1 year ago
Look I hate to be that guy. But I must say that I disagree with this guy. While he is obviously an intelligent guy and I respect his opinion. I disagree with his belief that General Petraeus will loosen up on the ROE in afgahnistan. Because there has been no record of him doing that in Iraq (where he made his name). Also it is natural that if someone is constantly threatening (Unmanned Drone being the latest example "ambassador of death") you that you would keep yourself ready to fight them.
jakemonkey7 1 year ago
He sound like Jimmy Stuart.
nandesneto 1 year ago
ok first off were withdrawing from iraq so thats 1 war down. Another thing is Obama did NOT cause this economic recession the Bush administration did. The economy is getting better but the fact is that it isn't getting better fast enough. If the GOP would do their job and actually get something passed maybe we would improve faster. For all those ppl that say the GOP cares about the public, tell me what ideas they come up with or if all they do is do their best to ruin Obama by blaming him.
ZacharyPorritt 1 year ago
@ZacharyPorritt Yo Zak... This just in... BOTH PARTIES ARE RESPONSIBLE... RE.. PONZI.. BLE for the collaspe of your society. Long before both you and I were in diapers they sold out the US of A and it's allied nations to the corporate or 4th estate and that my friend is a emperical fact. (Ref. Chomsky 'understanding power' 2001)
CyberAthletethefirst 1 year ago
@ZacharyPorritt : Excuse me? Withdraw from Iraq? Does that mean we have no bases there? Does that mean we are not leaving behind a contingent force? We are not one war down until there are no troops there. Its just a renaming of the mission and status, but its otherwise business as usual.
websnarf 1 year ago
@websnarf dude we have bases all over the country, even in countries were not at war with anymore. Were not out of it Iraq but thats why i said withdrawing not withdrew. Hopefully you caught that. Anyways it was renamed because the mission has changed and it will remain like this until we are completely withdrawn. I'm not trying to tear people down, but if u dont understand how withdrawing from war works then maybe you shouldnt comment.
ZacharyPorritt 1 year ago
@ZacharyPorritt Please, illuminate this issue for me, how DOES withdrawing from war work? Refer to the Video above, Obama and his administration have increased, that's INCREASED the allotted amount of funds being used in the Iraq occupation. Logically, although I must admit I am not "War Withdrawal" expert, it would stand to reason that during a period of "withdrawal" we might also withdraw our financial support for such an activity. This has not happened. Follow the money for truth.
gaijinass 1 year ago
@gaijinass They dont want to withdraw, shit they tried to privatize their economy to exploit them, thats bringing colonialism back in a huge way. It is a major criminal governmant and they deserve to be tried as such no exceptions. All criminals jsut liek the Nazis were for their wars of aggression. Especially when we know that the standards set to define thsoe crimes were made by the Americans, sheer hypocrisy.
They funded Saddam during his murders and not they must be jusdged as what they are
xdeliriumx1 1 year ago
@gaijinass That's because we stil have to pay for the remaining soldiers there. We have less so we have to provide them with more protection until we're completely out simply because we don't have the numbers we had. You can't just start to withdraw and cut all funding before everyones out. If we don't pay to give them the best equipment they can have then there dramatically smaller numbers would make them much more appealing targets for terrorists.
ZacharyPorritt 1 year ago
@ZacharyPorritt lol the US gvt idnt even know how to withdraw, they went into the war with no plan to get out whatsoever. It was a criminal war (war of aggression is the supreme war crime as defined by who? The US gvt at Nuremberg for the Nazis Hypocrisy eh?) they murdered over 1 million Iraquis and millions before that through their criminal sanctions and before that when they funded Saddam as he gased his people.
xdeliriumx1 1 year ago
@ZacharyPorritt WMD's were a bullshit opretext because they already knew there werent any, all lies, Then when that didnt work they said it was to bring 'democracy' lmao!! They tried to privatize their fucking economy and exploit them in a colonial fashion, major crimes. Crimes agaisnt peace, agaisnt humanity, etc... They deserve to be tried and sentenced as the criminals that they are.
xdeliriumx1 1 year ago
Those who control the resources of the world control the destiny of us all. There is no profit in peace or in curing illness. Money = power power=control and that is all that concerns fools.
The true enemies of our species are those who's actions are detrimental to the development and evolution of our species.
The universe is not sitting still waiting for humanity to sort it's shit out! Sooner or later the next ice age, plague, or astral body will come along.
Will Humanity be ready?
KaeSae1 1 year ago
@KaeSae1 I am putting 1000 dollars NZ on NO!
CyberAthletethefirst 1 year ago
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Those who control the resources of the world control the destiny of us all. There is no profit in peace or in curing illness. Money = power power=control and that is all that concerns fools.
The true enemies of our species are those who's actions are detrimental to the development and evolution of our species.
The universe is not sitting still waiting for humanity to sort it's shit out! Sooner or later the next ice age, plague, or astral body will come along.
Will Humanity be ready?
KaeSae1 1 year ago
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Those who control the resources of the world control the destiny of us all. There is no profit in peace or in curing illness. Money = power power=control and that is all that concerns fools.
The true enemies of our species are those who's actions are detrimental to the development and evolution of our species.
The universe is not sitting still waiting for humanity to sort it's shit out! Sooner or later the next ice age, plague, or astral body will come along.
Will Humanity be ready?
KaeSae1 1 year ago
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Those who control the resources of the world control the destiny of us all. There is no profit in peace or in curing illness. Money = power power=control and that is all that concerns fools.
The true enemies of our species are those who's actions are detrimental to the development and evolution of our species.
The universe is not sitting still waiting for humanity to sort it's shit out! Sooner or later the next ice age, plague, or astral body will come along.
Will Humanity be ready?
KaeSae1 1 year ago
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Those who control the resources of the world control the destiny of us all. There is no profit in peace or in curing illness. Money = power power=control and that is all that concerns fools.
The true enemies of our species are those who's actions are detrimental to the development and evolution of our species.
The universe is not sitting still waiting for humanity to sort it's shit out! Sooner or later the next ice age, plague, or astral body will come along.
Will Humanity be ready?
KaeSae1 1 year ago
Those who control the resources of the world control the destiny of us all. There is no profit in peace or in curing illness. Money = power power=control and that is all that concerns fools.
The true enemies of our species are those who's actions are detrimental to the development and evolution of our species.
The universe is not sitting still waiting for humanity to sort it's shit out! Sooner or later the next ice age, plague, or astral body will come along.
Will Humanity be ready?
KaeSae1 1 year ago
What are we going to do once Noam is gone?
mdrumt 1 year ago
@mdrumt Pick up the mantle and continue the struggle.
Xenu 1 year ago
@Xenu : Indeed, but you have to show me someone willing and able to do that.
websnarf 1 year ago
why dont you do something while noam is still alive? organise or join present organisations and coordinate a mass uprising to combat your war hungry government and those in charge.
nemesis700 1 year ago
is there a transcript of this available anywhere? Thanks!
DrumDisciple 1 year ago
there's a stack of books behind chomsky. he probably read through them while eating breakfast this morning
orion848 1 year ago 3
@orion848 so true he's an information machine
hodjepodje 1 year ago
Chomsky can not stay on a subject. He jumps on a horse and goes in twelve directions at one time. He has no direction in his thinking. Most boring person on earth. Not worth watching.
agent008hammer 1 year ago 2
@agent008hammer Don't comment on a video you didn't watch.
TheSpiritOfTheTimes 1 year ago
@agent008hammer : and you are a linguistic right?
LeFornicario 1 year ago
@LeFornicario Yes. What kind of linguistics, projistics, natoistics, clapistics and cunnalistics would you want me to speak to you in?
agent008hammer 1 year ago
@agent008hammer His ideas are the more coherent and logical than many of the scholars of today. I think an eight grade education would be enough to keep up with him, and a GED would make him worth watching.
paradoxicalparabola 1 year ago 2
@paradoxicalparabola haha. Kids with an eighth grade education would be asking themselves, "What is this guy doing on a horse that goes in twelve directions at once?" Please, kids know more than what you think they know. And kids as well as college students fall asleep with when Chomsky speaks.
agent008hammer 1 year ago 2