.... a sight to behold, an infinity of stars that should absolutely dwarf what has ever been seen before with telescopes, or even the naked eye, from Earth's surface. But what do we hear, time after time, on NASA audio records? All about how black and empty this "void" is that surrounds us. Not a mention of stars at all. How can that be? How can Voyager "see" the Earth, on the other side of the sun, amidst millions of bright stars in the background? It's easy, the are no stars but ours. Peace.
Excellent series of videos, thank you. Will order the DVD post haste. I only have one tiny problem with it, that there are depicted endless star fields beyond the known solar system .... and that simply is not true. Every astronaut that has ever first witnessed the majesty of space, from space, has neglected to describe what "should" be an infinite field of stars in all directions. That should be a sight so grand that anyone who first casts a eye on it should at least comment on how fantastic...
@riste1986 yes the bible has been around for 2000 years but how many times has it been re-written? dozens of times. and while it was being re-written the writer could have easily changed whatever the hell he or she wanted to just to make people believe in it.
The Bible is a scam with no relation to a real world. Believers does not look at the realistic world, but are disturbed by nonsense and psychological tricks. They believe in fairytale fantasies which cannot in any form of science be proven. It is a false story with nothing but morale stories. Religion is the cause of all wars and if it wasn't for people like you we'd have world peace
And the animations are wrong, the planets are moving in eclipses not circles.
@Chazorvigg Bible exists more than 2000 years(and still is the first most soled book in the world), evolution 200. Are you sure the Bible is scam? Start thinking for yourself. Religion does not make wars, people with ambition make wars,people who want power, the evil society of America makes war. Wake up. Non religious people are criminals, people with any kind of religion are afraid to be criminals, their life depends on the word of God. You should stop lying to yourself.
@Chazorvigg And people that teach you about evolution , i have secret for you: THEY DON`T BELIEVE IN IT. Sshhhhhhh. Dont tell no one. They tell you that because the money they get are good. Shhhhh.
Please don't attack my faith or the words of God like any 12 year old little boy could do, deal with the substance. I'm throwing down the intellectual gauntlet... How did the universe 'get here' ?
" But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." - 2 Corinthians 4:3-4
There is no naturalistic explaination though. How many atheists actually care about getting it right ? They would do well to look to men like Antony Flew or Dean Kenyon who went where the evidence led. But if the desire is to seem like a smart guy and impress yourselve or freinds then you're confining yourselves to a non-reality.
It's my observation that what a great deal of their motivation is is simply to see themselves and be seen by others as being part of 'the illumined class' helping to usher humanity out of the 'dark ages' of scientific thought. Problem is ,science is moving the other way. There is no need to even go down the road of the macro-evolutionary fairy tale until an atheist can give a defensible naturalistic reason for the universes' origin.
rather than deal with the idea of an immaterial, spirit being underlining reality they speak of ' an imaginary man in the sky' or some such silliness and think that because they couch God in such terms the whole proposition of a God is fancy. This is a close cousin to circular reasoning if not outright.
Some of more insulting, weak debating atheists who post concerning videos such as this have NOTHING of substance and they know it. They are guilty of blind faith in the words of men who speak from a naturalist biased foundation. Ironic considering they accuse Christians of the same. They speak in religious characature and use these arbitrary distortions as part of the basis for their disbelief.
LOL at romansten9, "an idea like evolution". Evolution is 100% fact, we can use dna to show exactly how animals have evolved.
We can show how life can be created from no life to start off this process, yes people really have found certain chemicals mixed together in the right atmosphere with electrical currents ceat amino acids... otherwise called the building blocks of life.
" without god life has no value", my life has more value! i know my life is numbered rather then afterlife rubbish!
It's 2011 in 27 hours, surely religion should of died out years ago along with witchcraft? Why do people live by the stories that were told 2000 years ago? They were very primative back then FFS! We look back at people in the 15th centruy and chuckle at their beliefs and ideas, so how come people accept stories from 1400 years before?! Bring back the Roman gods, at least they were more interesting than this selfish, jealous, bullyboy of a god Christians follow.
Its obvious that God made everything. One big reason that people feel a need to "rid" the world of God is that people don't want to face up to the fact that someone will judge their actions. So people create "answers" to questions that already have answers. Such as trying to replace "God created" with an idea like evolution. This also always human selfishness to be un-hindered.
Without God, immorality, crime, etc is ok. If life has no value, then abortion/murder is ok. And on and on.....
"...people don't want to face up to the fact that someone will judge their actions."
Really? Because you're Bible literally states that, by believing in Jesus Christ, you are saved from sin. If anyone actually believed that your god exists, they would realize that, despite what they do, they are saved from their sins. Your statement is pretty ignorant.
"Without God, immorality, crime, etc is ok."
If that's the case, a nation like Denmark should be an absolute nightmare.
"...people don't want to face up to the fact that someone will judge their actions."
Really? Your Bible says that if you believe in Jesus, you will be saved from sin. It's hardly a matter of worrying about being judged. We would be judged either way. Your statement is nothing more than an attempt to make Christians feel better about their beliefs.
"Without God, immorality, crime, etc is ok."
So, Denmark should be an absolutely terrible place according to this statement, right?
@TheSeventhSon You have an incorrect understanding of what the Bible says: "There is no condemnation for those that are in Christ Jesus." Romans 8:1 You are correct in saying that belief (faith/trust) in Jesus results in being saved from sin. Born-again Christians are the only people that may live with the peace of knowing that they are completely forgiven and will not have to pay the penalty (eternal separation from God) for sin. Non-believers are too proud to admit their faults to God.
My statement was very true and it points to how flawed your logic is. It makes no sense to suggest that non-believers refuse to believe because they are too proud to admit their faults to god. If they really do know that god exists, they know that god will judge them regardless of whether they admit to their faults or not. Non-believers simply DO NOT believe.
@TheSeventhSon No, my logic is not flawed. You don't understand the Bible or key concepts of faith .A very important point: Faith and belief are 2 very different things. You are mixing the 2 as if they are the same. Many people (in fact most) belief that God exists, but many of them have not placed their faith (trust) in Him.
Think about it. It clarifies my point if you understand the terms. People can believe God exists but yet be too proud to admit their sin. The Bible explains it all.
Oh, this is stemming from the fact that I said "if you believe in Jesus" and didn't further elaborate by adding "as your Lord and Savior and as the Son of God". That's hardly the issue though.
Are you intentionally vague here? Maybe a third of the world's population believes in your god, but most of the rest of the world believes in a different god.
Non-believers don't believe your god exists. It's not a matter of rejecting him because of pride.
@TheSeventhSon You are using the term "non-believer" as if this is the same thing as an atheist. The common usage of "non-believer" is not referring to atheists.
Even if they do mean the same thing, consider one of the world's most well known atheist, Richard Dawkins. Even he admits that God may exist. Watching Dawkins makes it clear that he is very proud of his own intelligence, and his pride is part of the reason he does not pursue a genuine search for the God he admits may exist.
No, I'm using "non-believe" as someone who does not believe in your religion. That's why I said that a lot of people believe in a god but not everyone believes in your god.
You can neither prove nor disprove god. Again, no. You're trying to fabricate your own reasons for why he doesn't believe. He has written books on why he doesn't believe. If he conducted a "genuine search", he would be forced to investigate every religion.
@TheSeventhSon People are created with a desire to know God. God made people in order to have a relationship with Him.
Millions of people can tell you that they felt an emptiness until they invited God to be part of their lives. Isn't it interesting that people can search for peace in relationships, look for satisfaction in money, drugs, etc. but never find it. When they find God they stop searching for something to satisfy them. I can guarantee you that my life is much better with God.
That's a bold statement that is pretty difficult to assess. I'd say that most people are indoctrinated into a religion at a young age. Being that children are very impressionable and malleable, they easily believe that god exists because that is what they are told.
Yes, I'm sure many people find happiness in god. The idea of god can comfort people because they think there is a plan for them. Also, many atheists can live happy and fulfilling lives without god.
@TheSeventhSon Many of the most intelligent people that ever lived became Christians as adults, after studying the OVERWHELMING evidence that the Bible is true and that God is real. Many of these people were former atheists. The only reason that there are atheists in the world is that those people have not seen enough of the evidence for themselves. Not only is there evidence, but God reveals Himself to those that seek Him. Most people never give it a chance. The secular mindset doesn't help.
This is called an argument from authority. It's a logical fallacy.
There are atheists because there is no evidence for the supernatural let alone evidence for any one of the thousands of religions that exist.
Of course he reveals himself to people; they are seeking him and want him to exist. I've been Christian. I've sought god. Again, you don't make a valid argument.
@TheSeventhSon If you say that you've been a Christian before then you shouldn't mind explaining to me the process of how one becomes a Christian. Do you even know? If you can't explain this to me then I doubt that you have ever become one.
You're seriously questioning my knowledge of how to become a Christian? Anyone that can read the New Testament can figure out how to become a Christian. It's outlined quite clearly.
@TheSeventhSon Another thing that the Bible has predicted. The reign of Alexander the Great was detailed 250 years before Alexander was born. This prediction from the Bible is common knowledge.
There are many more current predictions.The Bible predicted that Israel would become a nation and that this would usher in many other things (also predicted) The Bible predicted a "one world government and monetary system" We now have the UN (expanding) and the Euro (expanding) And many more like this
Again, Christians will claim that predictions were made and fulfilled. There are plenty of skeptics that disagree. For instance, Jews do not believe that Christ was the Messiah. One of the reasons is that, based on what the Bible says, it's unlikely that Christ was actually related to David.
A one world government does not exist nor does one currency exist. I think it was Paul in the New Testament who thought that Christ would return during his lifetime. That never happened.
What evidence? I've been (yes, even as an atheist) a student of the cultures of belief for decades and I've never seen any evidence that the "Bible is true". There's some evidence that some of the historical events recorded in the bible occured, but that's a bit like saying that some of the ingredients in cake are plant based. It's true but that doesn't make cake a divinely inspired description of plants. I say it again, you want it to be true to avoid seeing the truth that hurts.
@thisisanaccount100 The truth of the Bible can be verified in many different ways. Historical records and archeology prove that the Bible is accurate and authentic, but not necessarily divinely inspired. The places in which the Bible predicted the future set it apart from any other book, including EVERY other "religious" book. Including hundreds of details about Jesus are there long before His birth. Jesus appeared to >500 people after His resurrection. There are other evidences as well.
@TheSeventhSon Here is something that you can't argue with: God changed my life. My life is infinitely better with God. There is no comparison. Millions of people can attest to this. God changes people's hearts. There have been many rotten people that God has made into much better people. Many murderers that have become model citizens. I can give you names.
There also have been many genius level atheists that have tried to "disprove" the Bible, and in the process became Christians.
I'm sure he did. The idea of god brings comfort to many people. If it works for you, great.
Interesting that you bring up the fact that god made rotten people into better people. What is more noble, someone who acts moral because they believe it's correct or someone who does so because god demands it?
There have been many devout Christians that denounce Christianity after many years of study. Just look at Matt Dillahunty.
@TheSeventhSon I'm not talking about people that are "religious" or doing things because "God demands it" thats not Christianity, but that is "Religion" The 2 couldn't be any less alike.
I don't have much good to say about "religion" (trying to follow laws, reading the Bible, praying, going to church) Not that those things aren't good, but they are NOT Christianity.
Most people don't understand the difference.
Religion doesn't change people. A GENUINE RELATIONSHIP with God does.
@TheSeventhSon I was "religious" for the first 23 years of my life. (went to church, prayed, read the Bible, etc)
I THOUGHT that I was a Christian, but it had little impact on my life.
Then I discovered what the Bible actually says about how to become a Christian.
It radically transformed my life. Christianity isn't about following rules, going to a boring church, blah, blah, blah. In fact, there is no greater FREEDOM than being a Christian. Life truly begins when a person is forgiven.
I'm not really going to go into much detail with these first two comments because I'm not under the belief that a "genuine relationship with god" exists.
I'd also argue that there is no greater freedom then realizing on doesn't believe in god (at least the idea of god as reported by all the religions in the world).
@TheSeventhSon I've tried "everything" the world has to offer. Its true that money can't buy happiness. Well, actually "temporary" happiness is possible, but happiness only depends on what "happens" to a person. If you have a bad day, what then? Happiness can never compare with Joy. Joy is a deep down peace that is not affected by life's circumstances. Only God can offer Joy. Nothing else in life will give inner peace, even when the world around is falling apart. That is real life.
Then that's great that Christianity provides that for you. That does not mean that other people cannot find true happiness in other ways. Your personal experience doesn't apply to everyone.
@TheSeventhSon There are many stories of people that have tried the world's religions, but religion doesn't do much for people. Many people have tried them and then turned to Christianity and found the real thing. Christianity doesn't require "working your way to God" No "rules to follow" Its the only one that is the real deal. People stop searching when they have found Christianity. It fulfills people. The Bible can be tested and is the only "religious" book that stands up to scrutiny.
Many people have tried Christianity and have turned away from it. You're not really making any valid points here. No, the Bible doesn't stand up to scrutiny. That is why there are people are turned away by it.
@TheSeventhSon Did you know that the Bible has been called the most authentic ancient book of all ancient books? There are over ancient 24,000 manuscripts of the Bible. The most of any ancient book. Second place is Homer's Iliad with only 643 copies. Most ancient books have <10. The copies of the Bible are well over 99% accurate. (minor spelling errors that don't affect the content) Archeology and other sciences strongly supports the Bible. Properly interpreted, the Bible stands very strong
@TheSeventhSon Not only is the Bible well documented, but it also does things that no other book on earth can do, such as predict the future with 100% accuracy. Only God can inspire the writing of such a book. Reading the Bible is like reading the headlines of the newspapers because they often line up. Hundreds of events in history have been predicted, and current events as well. I can give you examples that are astounding, and if you question the Bible you need to read the examples.
Only Christians believe that it's 100% accurate. There are many skeptics that have studied the Bible extensively that disagree with its accuracy. I've also seen Christians guilty of confirmation bias. For instance, the Bible mentions a "behemoth" that many assume to be a dinosaur because young earth creationists want to believe that dinosaur and man co-existed.
@TheSeventhSon Yes, I agree that "behemoth" can be interpreted several ways. I don't buy into weak arguments made by creationists or anyone else. The Bible contains PLENTY of very strong evidence by which as person can make very strong arguments. There is no need to rely on loose interpretations, etc.
Good because creationists are typically wrong on just about everything. As I said earlier, the flood myth is unsubstantiated and not even logically possible.
@TheSeventhSon Throughout history many people doubted several things in the Bible, but as each year passes we continue to discover that the Bible was true all along. People once doubted that anyone had been crucified, people thought it was a myth. Many people and places were thought to be legends, now archeology proves them all to be true. Many of the world's most renowned archeologists will tell you that the Bible has never been contradicted. Ever.
Right, it's historically accurate to some extent. Does that mean that if other historians had made claims about the supernatural, we should also consider those claims to be true?
Additionally, the Bible appears to have borrowed concepts from earlier religions. Examples include the creation and flood myths that are incredibly similar to Babylonian mythology. There are also parallels between Jesus and other deities.
@TheSeventhSon If you draw similarities between religions, you don't realize how this can be a strong confirmation of the truth of the Bible. The Bible talks about good and evil in the world. We know that this is a reality. We also see evidence of spiritual powers at work in people's lives. Think about it. If there really is a Satan and if he is God's enemy, he would be at work to confuse religions. Exactly as the Bible says. The Bible clearly says that Satan imitates God and deceives people.
Or people invented religion to explain natural phenomena that could not be explained otherwise. Hence there were all sorts of gods attributed to phenomena such as storms, plagues, famines, etc.
Evidence of spiritual powers in people's lives? No, we see people attributed anything good to a god. The unexplained cannot by default be assumed to be god.
There are billions of other people that believe that their religion is the correct way and that you are wrong.
@TheSeventhSon The Bible has listed things that science had not discovered at the time, sometimes hundreds and even thousands of years passed before science "caught up" with what God had inspired to be written in the Bible. There are many examples. No, the Bible doesn't claim to be a science textbook, but what it does say is accurate. People used to laugh at some of the things written, but science continues to confirm them.
I think the problem is that people try to fit scriptures with what we've discovered in the natural world. If the Bible was such a phenomenal science book, we should be able to make predictions from it. Instead, people need to interpret the Bible to fit what we already know.
Also, the Bible is hardly "scientifically accurate". It claims that humans used to live beyond hundreds of years and it claims that a global flood occurred, neither of which are supported by science.
@TheSeventhSon I didn't say that the Bible claims to be a phenomenal science book, I actually said that it "doesn't claim to be a science textbook" For what it is, it is explains things that people had little understanding of at the time.
Finding evidence of humans that lived hundreds of years or of a global flood will depend which scientist you get your information from. The information is out there. There isn't room to list everything the Bible says that is scientific. See next comment...
You tried to play both sides by saying that it was scientifically accurate but then stating that it doesn't claim to be scientific.
Yes, of course it will depend on what scientists you ask. Christian scientists have a vested interest in those stories being true. Interestingly, they are the only ones that will claim that a global flood occurred or that the earth is 6,000 years old. I was taught that nonsense in elementary school.
@TheSeventhSon Here a just a few examples of science in the Bible. The Bible says that the stars can't be numbered and that each is unique. (people thought this was ridiculous for many years) The Bible calls the earth "a circle that sits on nothing" (technically a sphere, but the Bible doesn't use "technical" terms) The Bible details washing with running water and quarantine to prevent infections. (people didn't understand why) The hydrological cycle is explained. Many more like this....
@TheSeventhSon The science you are using is incredibly biased. Do you realize that many renowned scientists don't' believe in evolution? Even Richard Dawkins admits that ID may be the source of life. If you only read/watch popular media and believe everything you learn in public schools/universities, you are missing out on a HUGE amount of what is actually true. Try starting from nothing and see where the evidence takes you. Its incredibly hard in this anti-God society. It takes effort.
Biased science? Yeah, it's biased because Christians disagree with it. Good argument. I don't care what "many renowned scientists" say, I care about what biologists say and what the scientific literature shows. The process of evolution is a fact.
No, he admits it's a possibility. There's a difference.
You're making a poor argument. It's not a matter of what "popular media" says, it's a matter of what published science shows. You're not making a solid argument whatsoever.
Dawkins said that, eh? Would you mind pointing to the source of this little tidbit? I believe you may be lying or even worse, simply regurgitating a story you heard once from someone who heard it once from someone who hasn't actually done the work of verifying it. Tsk, tsk. Not very Christian of you. Oh, wait. Actually its typically Christian of you to pretend to know something that simply isn't true.
@thisisanaccount100 Yes Dawkins said ID is POSSIBLE. I'll not only give you the source, I can show you a clip right here on good 'ole YOUTUBE and you can watch him say it for yourself!
You obviously haven't watched one of the most popular documentaries released in the last few years. And you have the gall to ridicule ME? And you call ME a liar? Now you are going to have to eat your own words and take back your insults. If you have the character to do so. But I won't hold my breath!
@romansten9 Romansten9, I think your patience and willingness shows wht kind of person ur and that's admirable but its sad to see these people try to ridicule what ur saying and what u believe remember what Jesus said, "Shake the dust from ur feet and leave" they wont listen... they have made their minds up tht they are right and that's that. No amount of biblical knowledge will convince them, that which is flesh is flesh leave them to it u have done ur best to esplain where ur coming from.
You both have been shown to be wrong on many points and the best you can do is make mindless statements like "they wont listen... they have made their minds up tht they are right and that's that" and "No amount of biblical knowledge will convince them". Good job. Project your insecurities onto others.
So will you admit your faults to God then? Not believing is not admitting your faults, by the way. Because you are replacing God with your "own version" of the truth, and basically looking at God and saying "No fair, i want to be in charge of my life, not you, I wanna do things my way"
More and more assumptions. I'm curious why you even bother responding to me when you decide for yourself what I believe and what my intentions are and you refuse to accept that your beliefs aren't fact.
Pfft !!! ...that's an absurd notion, "The principality of mediocrity" ... i mean, who seriously believes that Earth is not unique or special ?!? .... i don't see any other planets we can simply "move" to ... so c'mon people , and goverments, and all you multi-international corp's and oil companies .... we need to take more freakin care of Mother Earth ... after all, it's the only one we got !!!
"The principle of mediocrity" seems to be a guillermo gonzales invention, and is a misinterpretation of Carl Sagan's message. Sagan's intent was to convey a sense of perspective, of wonder for the immense universe. In terms of how much things matter, as Sagan pointed out, as far as we know, we're the only part of the universe that can know itself.
@PrometheusWithLight Carl Sagan's intent is the same every time he opens his mouth. To spout lies about human beings not having any purpose. His perspective is that we are insignificant. If you wanna believe that about yourself be my guest, I choose to believe there is purpose and significance to life.
No, his intent was to express perspective, like I said. I know this because he stated quite clearly that, so far as we know, humans are the only part of the universe that can know itself. That makes us special, in that we can learn about ourselves, and the universe around us. The purpose he was trying to convey was one of learning, and exploration. Cosmos is posted on youtube, I suggest you re-watch, and this time, pay attention.
@PrometheusWithLight No thanks, I have seen enough of Sagan's material to know that he is liar but the worst kind because he actually believes his own lies. so sad....
@shernajwine What the bloody hell are you talking about? Carl Sagan is most famous for "Cosmos," his documentary on cosmology. It's fricking cosmology, how do you think he's lied?
@shernajwine Okay, ignoring that anything anyone says can fall under that, thus everyone including you and I would be a "liar" and "believe [our] own lies," what in particular stands out?
@kfk4life "You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep-seated need to believe." One of many atheistic statements that presuppose that belief in God is delusional. LIE
@shernajwine You know he wasn't an atheist, right? He never said he was anything other than agnostic. Even then, it doesn't have to be an atheistic comment. You're choosing for it to be.
@kfk4life Then I guess atheists are choosing for it be an atheistic comment as well, since they often quote him to promote the idea that belief in God is unintelligent.
@shernajwine Okay? People can take things how they want. The only person who can really say what it meant is Sagan, and he can't really do that. But to slander someone for not being able to clarify is absolutely pathetic.
@kfk4life well you said yourself Sagan claimed to be agnostic, in what regards would his statements be anything but against theism? it's pathetic that your trying to defend somebody who would probably be OFFENDED of what you are implying! i guess since Sagan is dead we should just manipulate his words to support theism now, since we can't ask him "what he really meant"
@shernajwine Because he stated quite openly that he wanted to believe in a god. I don't think he would be offended in the slightest. Did I ever once say to manipulate what he said? No. I said people are going to misunderstand him. That doesn't mean to go around and purposely change things.
@kfk4life yes, i have heard many an atheist and agnostic say they would like to believe in God...and then they ignore all evidence that points to Him. SORRY not buying it.
@shernajwine I really don't care if you're buying it, I'm just letting you know that some people actually do try and don't find anything. Sagan was one of them.
uh... Duh. They know that. Gonzalez, for example, is a professional astronomer, has many published articles, and has taught at Iowa State University.
Hay WATCH an abortion avaliable on U tube, The BABY moves away from the foreign object..... Yep the tissue is SO thoughtless, When I was pregnant I had to have fluid drawn and I felt Zack tighten up into a ball to get away from the needle also I saw him do this on a sonogram.
If they wante to use adults stem cells groovy, but using babies is worse than the lab rats I am sure you find cruel.
Stem cells aren't collected from fetuses they're collected from blastocysts. A collection of about 150 cells that can be created and used prior to implantation in a uterus.
Its not a baby. It's not even a fetus yet.
You have bought into propaganda without actually knowing anything about the science behind it.
Educate yourself. Your ignorance is keeping this amazing technology from potentially stopping real ACTUAL suffering and misery in the world, in the name of NOTHING.
@thisisanaccount100 you are an uneducated fool who thinks he can copy and paste something from google and try to sound some what intelligent when in fact you make yourself come out to be more of a moron than you did before you know no science what so ever you're opinion on science is so far beyond un intelligent that even a monkey somewhere in the world is laughing at you, I'd like for you stop posting in this documentary because you're a turd that wants to believe he's less than NOTHING
prettyemofreak, Why don't you ask your questions to one of the many Phd. scientists that believe in God based on the evidence that support the people, places and events of the Bible. You won't get a simple answer, and you wont' hear some nonsense about becoming a slave to the clergy. Like people are waiting in line to do that. Christianity will stand up (and has stood up) to everything thrown against it. You're going to have to do a lot better than the argument you have presented.
Please see the book, "The New Testament Documents: Are They Reliable?" by F.F. Bruce. It is only about 125 pages and a rather easy read. I think you will be surprised at the facts presented regarding the extant examples of the New Testament books in terms of their quantity and nearness in age to the events they describe. Particularly striking is the amount of evidence supporting the New Testament and the relative paucity of evidence for books we would never think to question.
@thisisanaccount100 The events of the Bible were not refuted. If that were so, we wouldn't have many of the world's most intelligent people as Christians. You've been lied to, and whatever information you have is by people that know nothing about the Bible, its language or culture. The Bible could have only been inspired by God. It is historically accurate. It is the most authentic ancient book ever written. Nobody can dispute this, it is supported by fact. The Bible has never faltered.
Uh, the global flood never happened. People never lived to be several hundreds of years old. You can't really refute the claim that Jesus multiplied bread and fish, but you also can't prove that claim.
LOL. If you disagree, you must have been lied to! Good logic.
Or, the Bible was written by man. Prove that it was inspired by god.
Interesting because there are Babylonian myths that record exactly was the Bible says before the Bible was written. Maybe those are more authentic?
@thisisanaccount100 You obviously know very little about the best selling book of all time. The most authentic ancient book ever written. A book that predicted the future with 100% accuracy. The Bible has been attacked throughout history by fools, and has never faltered. Any serious study of the Bible will prove all of this to you. The supposed "contradictions" some people talk about are laughable. Countless evidence supports the Bible. Just one example is the archeological evidence.
100% accurate according to Christians. Plenty of atheists have studied the Bible in incredible detail and have noticed flaws and inconsistencies.
Yeah, evidence shows that the Bible recorded history pretty well (despite the fact that it says that Jesus was born during two different time periods). That doesn't mean that its supernatural claims are true.
There has been some pretty nasty mistakes made by Christianity.
The fact that Copernicus conclusions was denied for so long is just one of them.
The main problem I see with religion is that people interpret it individually and adjusts it to their personal views. That's more difficult to do with science in my opinion. I'm not saying that there isn't a God or intelligent designer or whatever, I don't know but I do think science is more humble and consistent over all.
@staraffinity I agree that "religion" is full of mistakes. I despise man made religions. Every religion has one thing in common: Man trying to work to get to God. But how do you know when you have done enough?
Religion is spelled "DO" How much do I have to DO?
Christianity is spelled "DONE" Jesus did it all on the cross. Its DONE. No more work to do to get to heaven, no more fear of ANYTHING.
Christianity stands apart from EVERY world religion. God did the work so we can be FREE.
@Timmay123456789 The Bible predicts that some people will fall away from Christianity. The Bible predicts that the way to heaven is a "narrow road" and that "only a few find it"
But the Bible also says that the word of God will stand forever. Long after this world is gone, God will still exist, with is followers with Him and those that reject Him will be eternally separated from Him. He gives people this one opportunity to accept or reject Him. The most important decision a person can make.
Having a PhD doesn't make you immune to human failings like self-delusion. Newton was terrified of menstrual blood and the color red in general. He was also a believer and a genius. Evidence exists that some of the events in the bible were recorded accurately. That doesn't mean all of the events described actually happened. Some of the events in Oliver Stone's J.F.K. actually happened. That doesn't mean all of them did. Have you ever actually THOUGHT about any of this?
@thisisanaccount100 Talking about some irrational things that Newton believed in the days in which he lived really has NOTHING to do what millions of people believe in today's world.
Hundreds of things in the Bible were ridiculed throughout history. And one by one they have been proven to be true. The pattern will logically continue. Olive Stone movies? Are you kidding? The Bible is comprised of 66 Books written over a period of 1,500 years with >40 authors. Yet, astoundingly uniform.
Millions of people believed in fairies, volcano gods, a flat earth and that the plague could be avoided by drinking human urine. What people believe is irrelevant. As for the uniformity of the bible: have you ever stopped to think that if it was divinely inspired it would be perfect, not just uniform? I can make a "uniform" copy of any Stephen King novel. I can even add bits to them. So can 40 other authors over 1500 years. That doesn't make it TRUE. Think! It's free! Try some!
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@prettyemofreak All right then... It seems you are completely incapable of having an intelligent debate and your only recourse is to resort to name calling. I think its completely obvious who the idiot is here. There will be no further replies. The only way to win with you is to not play your silly game.
i dont know why these retarded atheists always take it like name calling i'm only stating the obvious what game is this ape talking about i dont know anyway yeah sure w.e dont play my "game" bye Chemical soup, wait fish? no wait ape there we go k bye happy ape days now :))
cgscott btw please do not post anything about me or to me because that prevents from me having to respond to you which prevents me from being in touch with a retard such as yourself k good day :)
it blows my mind how a person of 6th grade science level ignorant stubborn retard(evolutionist aka atheist) can come on youtube and say these People real scientists that have devoted theyre lives to true Science say theyre not real scientists and theyre lying because they in fact are not lying and are bringing truth facts and science that Creationism is correct and evolution is debunked and its just plain stupid as the claim they make that we evolved from a monkey, just morons absolute morons
BAHAHAHAHA!!! r u serious? If so, that was funny! cause the only one sided propaganda propagated on earth is the neo-evolution agenda....but im sure u were joking no one is that ignorant and stupid to make such a comment in light of the militant evo attack on faith in our schools and media....nice try troll
"Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark."
How beautiful and humbling, how inspiring, how unimpeachably magnificent it makes the universe.
And you claim to know the mind of our creator if such exists based on old books, written in obscure language, on a tiny mote of dust, by savages and barbarians who couldn't even understand the power of curiosity?
We atheists have so much more joy in life than believers I'm amazed you don't all kill yourselves to get to heaven...
@thisisanaccount100 "Atheists have so much more joy in life" Ha! Where did you ever get that idea? So thats why so many people without God turn to drugs, money and anything else to try to fill the void that a lack of God leaves. Thats why so many people with all the money in the world were left empty and depressed and many killed themselves because of lack of joy.
I have never heard of an atheist with authentic joy. Temporary happiness, yes, but not joy. God is the only source of joy.
God is a numbing salve that you put on your fear of annihilation at the end of your life. Anyone living with that kind of fear is missing out on what actual joy means. You numb yourself just like any other addict and you deny it just like them. I truly relish every moment of my existence in awe and wonder that you can't imagine while you regurgitate your ancient stories and try to convince yourself that you're happy all the while knowing deep down its a myth to calm your terror.
@thisisanaccount100 Who have you been talking to? What Christians are living in fear? I'm sure people like that exist, but I don't know of any. I know of hundreds of accounts of some of the bravest people that were Christians. The people that live in fear are the people on tranquilizers, and more commonly, the people that do drugs (including alcohol) as a way of ESCAPE from an empty/meaningless life that happens due to lack of PEACE. Only God gives real Peace. Quit kidding yourself!
@romansten9 I believe it is a fear of not having a pupose, the fear of death, the fear of being completely alone. As an athesist this is what I have accepted and it is a scary feeling, I also think that many athesists have not come to the realisation that when you die, there is no after life. I wish everyone thought this, then they may realise that you the one life you have is precious. Yes drugs, alcohol can fill voids - but so does religion. It is a habit, you NEED it, some would kill for it.
@thisisanaccount100 The Bible predicted that after Israel becomes a nation (happened in 1948) that this will usher in other events. An increase in earthquakes/natural disasters in increasing areas. (we are seeing large increases) Increase in diseases (we are seeing many new strains) An increase in false prophets (yes) Increase persecution of Christians (yes) Formation of one world government. (happening now) One world money system (has begun) Modern weapons described (yes) Continued......
Increase is natural disasters: I doubt that's true but it's also difficult to know what natural disasters have occurred throughout the 4 billions years of the earth's life.
Increase is diseases: Again, no. We have a greater knowledge of what exists. That doesn't mean more exists.
Increase in false prophets: According to you. To them, you are a false prophet.
Increase in persecution: Yeah right. Look at the U.S.
I'll stop here. What you have said is unsubstantiated or just wrong.
@thisisanaccount100 Continued predictions about current events.....The Bible describes a "secure" purchasing system that we now have the technology for. A credit card that could be implanted into the back of a person's hand is now possible. The Bible says that this "number" implanted in the hand (or even forehead) will be required to purchase things in the future. This would be a credit card that could never be lost or stolen. (Forehead even more secure than hand and some have no hands)
@thisisanaccount100 The Bible describes people viewing things from all over the world at once. This is now possible because of Live TV. This is yet another thing that the author's of the Bible could not have known about without the Bible being inspired by God. There are many more things like this that could be posted, including all of those that were previously posted.
So did science fiction stories from the 1800's. Does that make them prophecies? You're suffering from what's known as a "confirmation bias". It's an EVOLVED human trait, part of the brain's physiology that helps us identify patterns in things. It's why people see unicorns in clouds, more red cars after they buy one and believe in "prophecy" in a universe where truly seeing the future isn't likely. Predicting likely outcomes (like mass viewing) is clever, but not divine.
Israel will become a nation again (happened in 1948) Then within a generation: Increase in natural disasters, diseases, false prophets, nations surrounding Israel and warring with them, increase in false prophets and persecutions, etc.
Another prediction during this time. "Red heifers"(cows) will be born in Israel. This animal will be necessary for purification rituals. After 1000's of years, these cows are now back.(1997)
Nostradamus has been "proven" correct too by the same standards that you appear to hold as "evidence". Tattoos have been used to prove fidelity to systems for eons, as has the possession of a penis or the appropriate skin color. So you're saying that implantable credit cards are the fulfillment of a "prophecy" that could have been about tattoos? Cows showing up in a country fulfills a prophecy? It's obvious you want this to be true so to you it has become so. It's sad really.
thats all about us. and how we use our brain.and get information...because space...is neverending - but the problem is... that..in this time.. we cant imagine infinity..
The rare earth hypothesis and the anthropic principles that make up the fine tuning of the universe is totally different from the old geocentric concepts of medieval Europe. The Privileged Planet theory is not based on our ignorance of the past. It is based on our knowledge of the present.
You're trying to dissect and remove the same faith which he drew his strength from with a revisionist approach which has absolutely no historical accuracy. He included the words, all Gods children. Now 40 years later you are trying to offer a false narrative in order to try to make a point.
Why do atheist spend so much time criticizing on something they profess not to believe in? Their channels are filled with this subject. Could it be a cry for help? I never argue with people who believe in little green men from outer space.
We are trying to bring the human race out of the dark ages. Ancient superstitions hold back science and society and cause needless suffering. They need to be done away with. That is why we argue with you. Also, it's fun.
Really, how many officially atheist countries that have existed in the last 70 years has produced this peaceful productive Utopian society you speak of, was it the former Soviet Union, East Germany or the current S Korea, China, and Cuba where free speech is limited or other? Did creationist like Copernicus,Newton,Pastuer,Keppler,Reddi,Mendel hold us back or even Galileo who was willing to go against the most powerful institution in the world which was the Vatican, hold us back?
I'm certainly not blaming all of the human race's problems on religion. A lot more has to be done than simply doing away with irrational superstitions. Heck, not all of humanity's irrational superstitions are even religious in nature.
The scientists you mention did not come to their conclusions by trusting their religions. They did it by defying them and using science despite everything they were raised to believe. They trusted themselves. That's a very antichristian thing.
You obviously have not read the writings of Newton and Galileo who were devout creationist and deeply religious. Newton was not only a Christian but a Freemason. Mendel was a German monk who devoted his life to God and science. Sorry but all due respect you're going to have to use that on one more gullible. Human nature is human nature. We all have the capacity to kill and rape. The Christian and the atheist. Galileo's beef was with the pope not Christianity.
I am well aware that they were christian, but they didn't pray for their scientific discoveries. Religion played no part in them. Science is secular even if the scientist is religious.
Yes I agree with you're statement. Science has to remain neutral but that doesn't mean Gonzalez should have his academic career ruined and get black balled and denied tenure for contributing to this film which merely makes scientific observations about the anthropic nature of our planet. In this respect atheism also has nothing to do with science.
No, Galileo's beef was with the insane belief that a 'intelligent designer' created the Universe, which defies all human logic and reason. Why do you think there aren't any scientists today that argue for 'creationism'? It's because any legitimate Scientist would laugh at any one who said they have actual data that suggest there was a 'creator', just like the idea of teaching I.D. was laughed out of the Supreme Court by one of GW Bush's own appointees.
Sorry to inform you, but you're simply WRONG. There are no LEGITIMATE scientists that believe in the Christian idea of God that would ever be taken seriously. Why do you think that the 'Creationism being taught in school' idea was laughed out of the Supreme Court? This is because it is simply NOT a scientific theory, now you could argue that it is a SCIENCE FICTION theory -- and a pretty entertaining one, but the stuff in the BIble and the Koran are strictly in the MYTHOLOGY realm.
.... a sight to behold, an infinity of stars that should absolutely dwarf what has ever been seen before with telescopes, or even the naked eye, from Earth's surface. But what do we hear, time after time, on NASA audio records? All about how black and empty this "void" is that surrounds us. Not a mention of stars at all. How can that be? How can Voyager "see" the Earth, on the other side of the sun, amidst millions of bright stars in the background? It's easy, the are no stars but ours. Peace.
PittPenguins1 8 months ago
@PittPenguins1 You got to be kidding, seriously? Are you denying the existance of stars!?
thetraceur123 7 months ago
@thetraceur123
Are you unable to spell "existence" correctly?
FindingEudaimonia 6 months ago
@PittPenguins1 There are no Stars but ours? What do you mean?
Videos4USArmy 5 months ago
Excellent series of videos, thank you. Will order the DVD post haste. I only have one tiny problem with it, that there are depicted endless star fields beyond the known solar system .... and that simply is not true. Every astronaut that has ever first witnessed the majesty of space, from space, has neglected to describe what "should" be an infinite field of stars in all directions. That should be a sight so grand that anyone who first casts a eye on it should at least comment on how fantastic...
PittPenguins1 8 months ago
@riste1986 yes the bible has been around for 2000 years but how many times has it been re-written? dozens of times. and while it was being re-written the writer could have easily changed whatever the hell he or she wanted to just to make people believe in it.
TurboCubs 10 months ago
The Bible is a scam with no relation to a real world. Believers does not look at the realistic world, but are disturbed by nonsense and psychological tricks. They believe in fairytale fantasies which cannot in any form of science be proven. It is a false story with nothing but morale stories. Religion is the cause of all wars and if it wasn't for people like you we'd have world peace
And the animations are wrong, the planets are moving in eclipses not circles.
Chazorvigg 10 months ago
@Chazorvigg LOL!
slack7639 10 months ago
@Chazorvigg Bible exists more than 2000 years(and still is the first most soled book in the world), evolution 200. Are you sure the Bible is scam? Start thinking for yourself. Religion does not make wars, people with ambition make wars,people who want power, the evil society of America makes war. Wake up. Non religious people are criminals, people with any kind of religion are afraid to be criminals, their life depends on the word of God. You should stop lying to yourself.
Riste1986 10 months ago
@Chazorvigg And people that teach you about evolution , i have secret for you: THEY DON`T BELIEVE IN IT. Sshhhhhhh. Dont tell no one. They tell you that because the money they get are good. Shhhhh.
Riste1986 10 months ago
@Riste1986 what. a. load. of. crap.
Chazorvigg 9 months ago
@Chazorvigg I like civilized people. LOL
Riste1986 9 months ago
@Riste1986 You are example for all of them.
Riste1986 9 months ago
Carl Sagan is a lonely speck, in a great eveloping cosmic dark.
Sockpuppet2012 11 months ago
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@Sockpuppet2012 "Carl Sagan is a lonely speck, in a great eveloping cosmic dark."
And so are you my friend, however, that doesn't make you any less a special human being and a part of our wonderful COSMOS! ;)
thehside 11 months ago
The Universe was created by extra-terrestrials.
Sockpuppet2012 11 months ago
Please don't attack my faith or the words of God like any 12 year old little boy could do, deal with the substance. I'm throwing down the intellectual gauntlet... How did the universe 'get here' ?
projectguy1 11 months ago
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@projectguy1
"How did the universe 'get here' ?"
The Universe was created by extra-terrestrials!
Sockpuppet2012 11 months ago
" But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." - 2 Corinthians 4:3-4
projectguy1 11 months ago
Please, don't bore me with silly little insults which only serve to mask ignorance.
projectguy1 11 months ago
There is no naturalistic explaination though. How many atheists actually care about getting it right ? They would do well to look to men like Antony Flew or Dean Kenyon who went where the evidence led. But if the desire is to seem like a smart guy and impress yourselve or freinds then you're confining yourselves to a non-reality.
projectguy1 11 months ago
It's my observation that what a great deal of their motivation is is simply to see themselves and be seen by others as being part of 'the illumined class' helping to usher humanity out of the 'dark ages' of scientific thought. Problem is ,science is moving the other way. There is no need to even go down the road of the macro-evolutionary fairy tale until an atheist can give a defensible naturalistic reason for the universes' origin.
projectguy1 11 months ago
rather than deal with the idea of an immaterial, spirit being underlining reality they speak of ' an imaginary man in the sky' or some such silliness and think that because they couch God in such terms the whole proposition of a God is fancy. This is a close cousin to circular reasoning if not outright.
projectguy1 11 months ago
Some of more insulting, weak debating atheists who post concerning videos such as this have NOTHING of substance and they know it. They are guilty of blind faith in the words of men who speak from a naturalist biased foundation. Ironic considering they accuse Christians of the same. They speak in religious characature and use these arbitrary distortions as part of the basis for their disbelief.
projectguy1 11 months ago
Universe from 'nothing'...logically impossible on it's face ( and no amount of base-less quantum mechanical speculation changes that)
Universe as 'eternal'...Entropy destroys that.
Universe created by an intellectual agent is all that's left.
Can any atheist refute this ?
projectguy1 11 months ago
If you have a principled desire to see the rest of mankind walk in truth then convince us. Ridicule is cheap and easy.
projectguy1 11 months ago
Why do so many atheists ridicule and insult if their truth is so convincing ?
projectguy1 11 months ago
LOL at romansten9, "an idea like evolution". Evolution is 100% fact, we can use dna to show exactly how animals have evolved.
We can show how life can be created from no life to start off this process, yes people really have found certain chemicals mixed together in the right atmosphere with electrical currents ceat amino acids... otherwise called the building blocks of life.
" without god life has no value", my life has more value! i know my life is numbered rather then afterlife rubbish!
jackaroono 1 year ago
It's 2011 in 27 hours, surely religion should of died out years ago along with witchcraft? Why do people live by the stories that were told 2000 years ago? They were very primative back then FFS! We look back at people in the 15th centruy and chuckle at their beliefs and ideas, so how come people accept stories from 1400 years before?! Bring back the Roman gods, at least they were more interesting than this selfish, jealous, bullyboy of a god Christians follow.
danser01 1 year ago
Its obvious that God made everything. One big reason that people feel a need to "rid" the world of God is that people don't want to face up to the fact that someone will judge their actions. So people create "answers" to questions that already have answers. Such as trying to replace "God created" with an idea like evolution. This also always human selfishness to be un-hindered.
Without God, immorality, crime, etc is ok. If life has no value, then abortion/murder is ok. And on and on.....
romansten9 1 year ago
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"...people don't want to face up to the fact that someone will judge their actions."
Really? Because you're Bible literally states that, by believing in Jesus Christ, you are saved from sin. If anyone actually believed that your god exists, they would realize that, despite what they do, they are saved from their sins. Your statement is pretty ignorant.
"Without God, immorality, crime, etc is ok."
If that's the case, a nation like Denmark should be an absolute nightmare.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@romansten9
"...people don't want to face up to the fact that someone will judge their actions."
Really? Your Bible says that if you believe in Jesus, you will be saved from sin. It's hardly a matter of worrying about being judged. We would be judged either way. Your statement is nothing more than an attempt to make Christians feel better about their beliefs.
"Without God, immorality, crime, etc is ok."
So, Denmark should be an absolutely terrible place according to this statement, right?
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@TheSeventhSon You have an incorrect understanding of what the Bible says: "There is no condemnation for those that are in Christ Jesus." Romans 8:1 You are correct in saying that belief (faith/trust) in Jesus results in being saved from sin. Born-again Christians are the only people that may live with the peace of knowing that they are completely forgiven and will not have to pay the penalty (eternal separation from God) for sin. Non-believers are too proud to admit their faults to God.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
My statement was very true and it points to how flawed your logic is. It makes no sense to suggest that non-believers refuse to believe because they are too proud to admit their faults to god. If they really do know that god exists, they know that god will judge them regardless of whether they admit to their faults or not. Non-believers simply DO NOT believe.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@TheSeventhSon No, my logic is not flawed. You don't understand the Bible or key concepts of faith .A very important point: Faith and belief are 2 very different things. You are mixing the 2 as if they are the same. Many people (in fact most) belief that God exists, but many of them have not placed their faith (trust) in Him.
Think about it. It clarifies my point if you understand the terms. People can believe God exists but yet be too proud to admit their sin. The Bible explains it all.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
Oh, this is stemming from the fact that I said "if you believe in Jesus" and didn't further elaborate by adding "as your Lord and Savior and as the Son of God". That's hardly the issue though.
Are you intentionally vague here? Maybe a third of the world's population believes in your god, but most of the rest of the world believes in a different god.
Non-believers don't believe your god exists. It's not a matter of rejecting him because of pride.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@TheSeventhSon You are using the term "non-believer" as if this is the same thing as an atheist. The common usage of "non-believer" is not referring to atheists.
Even if they do mean the same thing, consider one of the world's most well known atheist, Richard Dawkins. Even he admits that God may exist. Watching Dawkins makes it clear that he is very proud of his own intelligence, and his pride is part of the reason he does not pursue a genuine search for the God he admits may exist.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
No, I'm using "non-believe" as someone who does not believe in your religion. That's why I said that a lot of people believe in a god but not everyone believes in your god.
You can neither prove nor disprove god. Again, no. You're trying to fabricate your own reasons for why he doesn't believe. He has written books on why he doesn't believe. If he conducted a "genuine search", he would be forced to investigate every religion.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@TheSeventhSon People are created with a desire to know God. God made people in order to have a relationship with Him.
Millions of people can tell you that they felt an emptiness until they invited God to be part of their lives. Isn't it interesting that people can search for peace in relationships, look for satisfaction in money, drugs, etc. but never find it. When they find God they stop searching for something to satisfy them. I can guarantee you that my life is much better with God.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
That's a bold statement that is pretty difficult to assess. I'd say that most people are indoctrinated into a religion at a young age. Being that children are very impressionable and malleable, they easily believe that god exists because that is what they are told.
Yes, I'm sure many people find happiness in god. The idea of god can comfort people because they think there is a plan for them. Also, many atheists can live happy and fulfilling lives without god.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@TheSeventhSon Many of the most intelligent people that ever lived became Christians as adults, after studying the OVERWHELMING evidence that the Bible is true and that God is real. Many of these people were former atheists. The only reason that there are atheists in the world is that those people have not seen enough of the evidence for themselves. Not only is there evidence, but God reveals Himself to those that seek Him. Most people never give it a chance. The secular mindset doesn't help.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
This is called an argument from authority. It's a logical fallacy.
There are atheists because there is no evidence for the supernatural let alone evidence for any one of the thousands of religions that exist.
Of course he reveals himself to people; they are seeking him and want him to exist. I've been Christian. I've sought god. Again, you don't make a valid argument.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@TheSeventhSon If you say that you've been a Christian before then you shouldn't mind explaining to me the process of how one becomes a Christian. Do you even know? If you can't explain this to me then I doubt that you have ever become one.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
You're seriously questioning my knowledge of how to become a Christian? Anyone that can read the New Testament can figure out how to become a Christian. It's outlined quite clearly.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@TheSeventhSon Another thing that the Bible has predicted. The reign of Alexander the Great was detailed 250 years before Alexander was born. This prediction from the Bible is common knowledge.
There are many more current predictions.The Bible predicted that Israel would become a nation and that this would usher in many other things (also predicted) The Bible predicted a "one world government and monetary system" We now have the UN (expanding) and the Euro (expanding) And many more like this
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
Again, Christians will claim that predictions were made and fulfilled. There are plenty of skeptics that disagree. For instance, Jews do not believe that Christ was the Messiah. One of the reasons is that, based on what the Bible says, it's unlikely that Christ was actually related to David.
A one world government does not exist nor does one currency exist. I think it was Paul in the New Testament who thought that Christ would return during his lifetime. That never happened.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@romansten9
What evidence? I've been (yes, even as an atheist) a student of the cultures of belief for decades and I've never seen any evidence that the "Bible is true". There's some evidence that some of the historical events recorded in the bible occured, but that's a bit like saying that some of the ingredients in cake are plant based. It's true but that doesn't make cake a divinely inspired description of plants. I say it again, you want it to be true to avoid seeing the truth that hurts.
thisisanaccount100 1 year ago
@thisisanaccount100 The truth of the Bible can be verified in many different ways. Historical records and archeology prove that the Bible is accurate and authentic, but not necessarily divinely inspired. The places in which the Bible predicted the future set it apart from any other book, including EVERY other "religious" book. Including hundreds of details about Jesus are there long before His birth. Jesus appeared to >500 people after His resurrection. There are other evidences as well.
romansten9 1 year ago
@TheSeventhSon Here is something that you can't argue with: God changed my life. My life is infinitely better with God. There is no comparison. Millions of people can attest to this. God changes people's hearts. There have been many rotten people that God has made into much better people. Many murderers that have become model citizens. I can give you names.
There also have been many genius level atheists that have tried to "disprove" the Bible, and in the process became Christians.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
I'm sure he did. The idea of god brings comfort to many people. If it works for you, great.
Interesting that you bring up the fact that god made rotten people into better people. What is more noble, someone who acts moral because they believe it's correct or someone who does so because god demands it?
There have been many devout Christians that denounce Christianity after many years of study. Just look at Matt Dillahunty.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@TheSeventhSon I'm not talking about people that are "religious" or doing things because "God demands it" thats not Christianity, but that is "Religion" The 2 couldn't be any less alike.
I don't have much good to say about "religion" (trying to follow laws, reading the Bible, praying, going to church) Not that those things aren't good, but they are NOT Christianity.
Most people don't understand the difference.
Religion doesn't change people. A GENUINE RELATIONSHIP with God does.
romansten9 1 year ago
@TheSeventhSon I was "religious" for the first 23 years of my life. (went to church, prayed, read the Bible, etc)
I THOUGHT that I was a Christian, but it had little impact on my life.
Then I discovered what the Bible actually says about how to become a Christian.
It radically transformed my life. Christianity isn't about following rules, going to a boring church, blah, blah, blah. In fact, there is no greater FREEDOM than being a Christian. Life truly begins when a person is forgiven.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
I'm not really going to go into much detail with these first two comments because I'm not under the belief that a "genuine relationship with god" exists.
I'd also argue that there is no greater freedom then realizing on doesn't believe in god (at least the idea of god as reported by all the religions in the world).
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@TheSeventhSon I've tried "everything" the world has to offer. Its true that money can't buy happiness. Well, actually "temporary" happiness is possible, but happiness only depends on what "happens" to a person. If you have a bad day, what then? Happiness can never compare with Joy. Joy is a deep down peace that is not affected by life's circumstances. Only God can offer Joy. Nothing else in life will give inner peace, even when the world around is falling apart. That is real life.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
Then that's great that Christianity provides that for you. That does not mean that other people cannot find true happiness in other ways. Your personal experience doesn't apply to everyone.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@TheSeventhSon There are many stories of people that have tried the world's religions, but religion doesn't do much for people. Many people have tried them and then turned to Christianity and found the real thing. Christianity doesn't require "working your way to God" No "rules to follow" Its the only one that is the real deal. People stop searching when they have found Christianity. It fulfills people. The Bible can be tested and is the only "religious" book that stands up to scrutiny.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
Many people have tried Christianity and have turned away from it. You're not really making any valid points here. No, the Bible doesn't stand up to scrutiny. That is why there are people are turned away by it.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@TheSeventhSon Did you know that the Bible has been called the most authentic ancient book of all ancient books? There are over ancient 24,000 manuscripts of the Bible. The most of any ancient book. Second place is Homer's Iliad with only 643 copies. Most ancient books have <10. The copies of the Bible are well over 99% accurate. (minor spelling errors that don't affect the content) Archeology and other sciences strongly supports the Bible. Properly interpreted, the Bible stands very strong
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
That doesn't prove that the supernatural claims are true. That proves that it was well documented.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@TheSeventhSon Not only is the Bible well documented, but it also does things that no other book on earth can do, such as predict the future with 100% accuracy. Only God can inspire the writing of such a book. Reading the Bible is like reading the headlines of the newspapers because they often line up. Hundreds of events in history have been predicted, and current events as well. I can give you examples that are astounding, and if you question the Bible you need to read the examples.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
Only Christians believe that it's 100% accurate. There are many skeptics that have studied the Bible extensively that disagree with its accuracy. I've also seen Christians guilty of confirmation bias. For instance, the Bible mentions a "behemoth" that many assume to be a dinosaur because young earth creationists want to believe that dinosaur and man co-existed.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@TheSeventhSon Yes, I agree that "behemoth" can be interpreted several ways. I don't buy into weak arguments made by creationists or anyone else. The Bible contains PLENTY of very strong evidence by which as person can make very strong arguments. There is no need to rely on loose interpretations, etc.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
Good because creationists are typically wrong on just about everything. As I said earlier, the flood myth is unsubstantiated and not even logically possible.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@TheSeventhSon Throughout history many people doubted several things in the Bible, but as each year passes we continue to discover that the Bible was true all along. People once doubted that anyone had been crucified, people thought it was a myth. Many people and places were thought to be legends, now archeology proves them all to be true. Many of the world's most renowned archeologists will tell you that the Bible has never been contradicted. Ever.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
Right, it's historically accurate to some extent. Does that mean that if other historians had made claims about the supernatural, we should also consider those claims to be true?
Additionally, the Bible appears to have borrowed concepts from earlier religions. Examples include the creation and flood myths that are incredibly similar to Babylonian mythology. There are also parallels between Jesus and other deities.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@TheSeventhSon If you draw similarities between religions, you don't realize how this can be a strong confirmation of the truth of the Bible. The Bible talks about good and evil in the world. We know that this is a reality. We also see evidence of spiritual powers at work in people's lives. Think about it. If there really is a Satan and if he is God's enemy, he would be at work to confuse religions. Exactly as the Bible says. The Bible clearly says that Satan imitates God and deceives people.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
Or people invented religion to explain natural phenomena that could not be explained otherwise. Hence there were all sorts of gods attributed to phenomena such as storms, plagues, famines, etc.
Evidence of spiritual powers in people's lives? No, we see people attributed anything good to a god. The unexplained cannot by default be assumed to be god.
There are billions of other people that believe that their religion is the correct way and that you are wrong.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@TheSeventhSon The Bible has listed things that science had not discovered at the time, sometimes hundreds and even thousands of years passed before science "caught up" with what God had inspired to be written in the Bible. There are many examples. No, the Bible doesn't claim to be a science textbook, but what it does say is accurate. People used to laugh at some of the things written, but science continues to confirm them.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
I think the problem is that people try to fit scriptures with what we've discovered in the natural world. If the Bible was such a phenomenal science book, we should be able to make predictions from it. Instead, people need to interpret the Bible to fit what we already know.
Also, the Bible is hardly "scientifically accurate". It claims that humans used to live beyond hundreds of years and it claims that a global flood occurred, neither of which are supported by science.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@TheSeventhSon I didn't say that the Bible claims to be a phenomenal science book, I actually said that it "doesn't claim to be a science textbook" For what it is, it is explains things that people had little understanding of at the time.
Finding evidence of humans that lived hundreds of years or of a global flood will depend which scientist you get your information from. The information is out there. There isn't room to list everything the Bible says that is scientific. See next comment...
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
You tried to play both sides by saying that it was scientifically accurate but then stating that it doesn't claim to be scientific.
Yes, of course it will depend on what scientists you ask. Christian scientists have a vested interest in those stories being true. Interestingly, they are the only ones that will claim that a global flood occurred or that the earth is 6,000 years old. I was taught that nonsense in elementary school.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@TheSeventhSon Here a just a few examples of science in the Bible. The Bible says that the stars can't be numbered and that each is unique. (people thought this was ridiculous for many years) The Bible calls the earth "a circle that sits on nothing" (technically a sphere, but the Bible doesn't use "technical" terms) The Bible details washing with running water and quarantine to prevent infections. (people didn't understand why) The hydrological cycle is explained. Many more like this....
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
Yeah, like I said, people fit scripture to what we already know. Please make some predictions if it is scientifically accurate.
The Bible actually at one point uses the Hebrew word for "circle" rather than "sphere".
Again, if the Bible is to be taken literally, it is wrong on the idea of a young earth, a global flood, the origin of humans and species, etc.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@TheSeventhSon The science you are using is incredibly biased. Do you realize that many renowned scientists don't' believe in evolution? Even Richard Dawkins admits that ID may be the source of life. If you only read/watch popular media and believe everything you learn in public schools/universities, you are missing out on a HUGE amount of what is actually true. Try starting from nothing and see where the evidence takes you. Its incredibly hard in this anti-God society. It takes effort.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
Biased science? Yeah, it's biased because Christians disagree with it. Good argument. I don't care what "many renowned scientists" say, I care about what biologists say and what the scientific literature shows. The process of evolution is a fact.
No, he admits it's a possibility. There's a difference.
You're making a poor argument. It's not a matter of what "popular media" says, it's a matter of what published science shows. You're not making a solid argument whatsoever.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@romansten9
Dawkins said that, eh? Would you mind pointing to the source of this little tidbit? I believe you may be lying or even worse, simply regurgitating a story you heard once from someone who heard it once from someone who hasn't actually done the work of verifying it. Tsk, tsk. Not very Christian of you. Oh, wait. Actually its typically Christian of you to pretend to know something that simply isn't true.
thisisanaccount100 1 year ago
@thisisanaccount100 Yes Dawkins said ID is POSSIBLE. I'll not only give you the source, I can show you a clip right here on good 'ole YOUTUBE and you can watch him say it for yourself!
You obviously haven't watched one of the most popular documentaries released in the last few years. And you have the gall to ridicule ME? And you call ME a liar? Now you are going to have to eat your own words and take back your insults. If you have the character to do so. But I won't hold my breath!
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9 Romansten9, I think your patience and willingness shows wht kind of person ur and that's admirable but its sad to see these people try to ridicule what ur saying and what u believe remember what Jesus said, "Shake the dust from ur feet and leave" they wont listen... they have made their minds up tht they are right and that's that. No amount of biblical knowledge will convince them, that which is flesh is flesh leave them to it u have done ur best to esplain where ur coming from.
TheChrissy48 1 year ago
@TheChrissy48
You both have been shown to be wrong on many points and the best you can do is make mindless statements like "they wont listen... they have made their minds up tht they are right and that's that" and "No amount of biblical knowledge will convince them". Good job. Project your insecurities onto others.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@TheSeventhSon
So will you admit your faults to God then? Not believing is not admitting your faults, by the way. Because you are replacing God with your "own version" of the truth, and basically looking at God and saying "No fair, i want to be in charge of my life, not you, I wanna do things my way"
ChristJesusReigns 1 year ago
@ChristJesusReigns
More and more assumptions. I'm curious why you even bother responding to me when you decide for yourself what I believe and what my intentions are and you refuse to accept that your beliefs aren't fact.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@ChristJesusReigns WHICH God should we worship? o_O LOL DO you angrily deny Zeus and Krishna? SHAME!! O_O LooooooooooooooL XD
Karoke77 2 weeks ago
Pfft !!! ...that's an absurd notion, "The principality of mediocrity" ... i mean, who seriously believes that Earth is not unique or special ?!? .... i don't see any other planets we can simply "move" to ... so c'mon people , and goverments, and all you multi-international corp's and oil companies .... we need to take more freakin care of Mother Earth ... after all, it's the only one we got !!!
TheDarkone1111 1 year ago
"The principle of mediocrity" seems to be a guillermo gonzales invention, and is a misinterpretation of Carl Sagan's message. Sagan's intent was to convey a sense of perspective, of wonder for the immense universe. In terms of how much things matter, as Sagan pointed out, as far as we know, we're the only part of the universe that can know itself.
PrometheusWithLight 1 year ago
@PrometheusWithLight Carl Sagan's intent is the same every time he opens his mouth. To spout lies about human beings not having any purpose. His perspective is that we are insignificant. If you wanna believe that about yourself be my guest, I choose to believe there is purpose and significance to life.
shernajwine 1 year ago
@shernajwine
No, his intent was to express perspective, like I said. I know this because he stated quite clearly that, so far as we know, humans are the only part of the universe that can know itself. That makes us special, in that we can learn about ourselves, and the universe around us. The purpose he was trying to convey was one of learning, and exploration. Cosmos is posted on youtube, I suggest you re-watch, and this time, pay attention.
PrometheusWithLight 1 year ago
@PrometheusWithLight No thanks, I have seen enough of Sagan's material to know that he is liar but the worst kind because he actually believes his own lies. so sad....
shernajwine 1 year ago
@shernajwine What the bloody hell are you talking about? Carl Sagan is most famous for "Cosmos," his documentary on cosmology. It's fricking cosmology, how do you think he's lied?
PrometheusWithLight 1 year ago
@shernajwine What, exactly did he lie about?
kfk4life 1 year ago
@kfk4life anything he stated outside of empirical fact.
shernajwine 1 year ago
@shernajwine Okay, ignoring that anything anyone says can fall under that, thus everyone including you and I would be a "liar" and "believe [our] own lies," what in particular stands out?
kfk4life 1 year ago
@kfk4life "You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep-seated need to believe." One of many atheistic statements that presuppose that belief in God is delusional. LIE
shernajwine 1 year ago
@shernajwine You know he wasn't an atheist, right? He never said he was anything other than agnostic. Even then, it doesn't have to be an atheistic comment. You're choosing for it to be.
kfk4life 1 year ago
@kfk4life Then I guess atheists are choosing for it be an atheistic comment as well, since they often quote him to promote the idea that belief in God is unintelligent.
shernajwine 1 year ago
@shernajwine Okay? People can take things how they want. The only person who can really say what it meant is Sagan, and he can't really do that. But to slander someone for not being able to clarify is absolutely pathetic.
kfk4life 1 year ago
@kfk4life well you said yourself Sagan claimed to be agnostic, in what regards would his statements be anything but against theism? it's pathetic that your trying to defend somebody who would probably be OFFENDED of what you are implying! i guess since Sagan is dead we should just manipulate his words to support theism now, since we can't ask him "what he really meant"
shernajwine 1 year ago
@shernajwine Because he stated quite openly that he wanted to believe in a god. I don't think he would be offended in the slightest. Did I ever once say to manipulate what he said? No. I said people are going to misunderstand him. That doesn't mean to go around and purposely change things.
kfk4life 1 year ago
@kfk4life yes, i have heard many an atheist and agnostic say they would like to believe in God...and then they ignore all evidence that points to Him. SORRY not buying it.
shernajwine 1 year ago
@shernajwine I really don't care if you're buying it, I'm just letting you know that some people actually do try and don't find anything. Sagan was one of them.
kfk4life 1 year ago
Environmentalists believe the earth is the center of everything, the Bible says no such thing.
neandertal121 1 year ago
The earth is not the center of anything, the bible was wrong.
gregrutz 1 year ago
Fail. The orbits of the planets are not circular.
SM3388 1 year ago 3
@SM3388 You're right, they orbit in a square!
jkdyoung 1 year ago
uh... Duh. They know that. Gonzalez is a professional astronomer, has many published articles, and has taught at Iowa State University.
MrBlonde5k1 1 year ago
uh... Duh. They know that. Gonzalez, for example, is a professional astronomer, has many published articles, and has taught at Iowa State University.
MrBlonde5k1 1 year ago
Hay WATCH an abortion avaliable on U tube, The BABY moves away from the foreign object..... Yep the tissue is SO thoughtless, When I was pregnant I had to have fluid drawn and I felt Zack tighten up into a ball to get away from the needle also I saw him do this on a sonogram.
If they wante to use adults stem cells groovy, but using babies is worse than the lab rats I am sure you find cruel.
As far as the name calling I'll let it pass
lostraver 2 years ago
@lostraver
Stem cells aren't collected from fetuses they're collected from blastocysts. A collection of about 150 cells that can be created and used prior to implantation in a uterus.
Its not a baby. It's not even a fetus yet.
You have bought into propaganda without actually knowing anything about the science behind it.
Educate yourself. Your ignorance is keeping this amazing technology from potentially stopping real ACTUAL suffering and misery in the world, in the name of NOTHING.
thisisanaccount100 2 years ago
@thisisanaccount100 you are an uneducated fool who thinks he can copy and paste something from google and try to sound some what intelligent when in fact you make yourself come out to be more of a moron than you did before you know no science what so ever you're opinion on science is so far beyond un intelligent that even a monkey somewhere in the world is laughing at you, I'd like for you stop posting in this documentary because you're a turd that wants to believe he's less than NOTHING
prettyemofreak 2 years ago
@prettyemofreak
and I'd like for you to never breed, but I'm guessing neither of us is going to get our wish.
However, my science is spot on and interestingly enough, supported by overwhelming evidence.
Where is your evidence of a designer? Where is your evidence for a god?
Can you even actually define "design" or "god" in terms that are meaningful in a scientific way?
I doubt it seriously, because you WANT to be an ignorant slave to the clergy. You LIKE being servile and worthless.
Sad.
thisisanaccount100 2 years ago
@thisisanaccount100 comes from the moron who believe's he is an accident of evolution lol
prettyemofreak 2 years ago
prettyemofreak, Why don't you ask your questions to one of the many Phd. scientists that believe in God based on the evidence that support the people, places and events of the Bible. You won't get a simple answer, and you wont' hear some nonsense about becoming a slave to the clergy. Like people are waiting in line to do that. Christianity will stand up (and has stood up) to everything thrown against it. You're going to have to do a lot better than the argument you have presented.
romansten9 2 years ago 9
@romansten9
Um... what evidence that supports the people places and events in the bible?
You mean the utter refutation of the wandering in the desert by the early hebrews?
You mean the complete destruction of the myth of the flood?
You mean the overwhelming evidence against the instantaneous creation of Adam and Eve?
You mean the huge amount of evidence that none of the gospels of the new testament were actually written by witnesses of the events?
Eventually truth will kill faith.
thisisanaccount100 2 years ago
Dear Sir,
Please see the book, "The New Testament Documents: Are They Reliable?" by F.F. Bruce. It is only about 125 pages and a rather easy read. I think you will be surprised at the facts presented regarding the extant examples of the New Testament books in terms of their quantity and nearness in age to the events they describe. Particularly striking is the amount of evidence supporting the New Testament and the relative paucity of evidence for books we would never think to question.
greglam 1 year ago
@thisisanaccount100 The events of the Bible were not refuted. If that were so, we wouldn't have many of the world's most intelligent people as Christians. You've been lied to, and whatever information you have is by people that know nothing about the Bible, its language or culture. The Bible could have only been inspired by God. It is historically accurate. It is the most authentic ancient book ever written. Nobody can dispute this, it is supported by fact. The Bible has never faltered.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
Uh, the global flood never happened. People never lived to be several hundreds of years old. You can't really refute the claim that Jesus multiplied bread and fish, but you also can't prove that claim.
LOL. If you disagree, you must have been lied to! Good logic.
Or, the Bible was written by man. Prove that it was inspired by god.
Interesting because there are Babylonian myths that record exactly was the Bible says before the Bible was written. Maybe those are more authentic?
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@thisisanaccount100 You obviously know very little about the best selling book of all time. The most authentic ancient book ever written. A book that predicted the future with 100% accuracy. The Bible has been attacked throughout history by fools, and has never faltered. Any serious study of the Bible will prove all of this to you. The supposed "contradictions" some people talk about are laughable. Countless evidence supports the Bible. Just one example is the archeological evidence.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
100% accurate according to Christians. Plenty of atheists have studied the Bible in incredible detail and have noticed flaws and inconsistencies.
Yeah, evidence shows that the Bible recorded history pretty well (despite the fact that it says that Jesus was born during two different time periods). That doesn't mean that its supernatural claims are true.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@romansten9
There has been some pretty nasty mistakes made by Christianity.
The fact that Copernicus conclusions was denied for so long is just one of them.
The main problem I see with religion is that people interpret it individually and adjusts it to their personal views. That's more difficult to do with science in my opinion. I'm not saying that there isn't a God or intelligent designer or whatever, I don't know but I do think science is more humble and consistent over all.
staraffinity 1 year ago
@staraffinity I agree that "religion" is full of mistakes. I despise man made religions. Every religion has one thing in common: Man trying to work to get to God. But how do you know when you have done enough?
Religion is spelled "DO" How much do I have to DO?
Christianity is spelled "DONE" Jesus did it all on the cross. Its DONE. No more work to do to get to heaven, no more fear of ANYTHING.
Christianity stands apart from EVERY world religion. God did the work so we can be FREE.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
No, christianity hasn't stood up against everything that was thrown at it...it's collapsing and will continue to
Timmay123456789 1 year ago
@Timmay123456789 The Bible predicts that some people will fall away from Christianity. The Bible predicts that the way to heaven is a "narrow road" and that "only a few find it"
But the Bible also says that the word of God will stand forever. Long after this world is gone, God will still exist, with is followers with Him and those that reject Him will be eternally separated from Him. He gives people this one opportunity to accept or reject Him. The most important decision a person can make.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
Having a PhD doesn't make you immune to human failings like self-delusion. Newton was terrified of menstrual blood and the color red in general. He was also a believer and a genius. Evidence exists that some of the events in the bible were recorded accurately. That doesn't mean all of the events described actually happened. Some of the events in Oliver Stone's J.F.K. actually happened. That doesn't mean all of them did. Have you ever actually THOUGHT about any of this?
thisisanaccount100 1 year ago
@thisisanaccount100 Talking about some irrational things that Newton believed in the days in which he lived really has NOTHING to do what millions of people believe in today's world.
Hundreds of things in the Bible were ridiculed throughout history. And one by one they have been proven to be true. The pattern will logically continue. Olive Stone movies? Are you kidding? The Bible is comprised of 66 Books written over a period of 1,500 years with >40 authors. Yet, astoundingly uniform.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
Millions of people believed in fairies, volcano gods, a flat earth and that the plague could be avoided by drinking human urine. What people believe is irrelevant. As for the uniformity of the bible: have you ever stopped to think that if it was divinely inspired it would be perfect, not just uniform? I can make a "uniform" copy of any Stephen King novel. I can even add bits to them. So can 40 other authors over 1500 years. That doesn't make it TRUE. Think! It's free! Try some!
thisisanaccount100 1 year ago
yeah, you tell em prettyemofreak with your run on word salad diatriabes.
agentorange20 1 year ago
Embryonic stem cells (ES cells) are pluripotent stem cells derived from the inner cell mass of the blastocyst, an ***early-stage embryo****[1]. Human embryos reach the blastocyst stage 45 days post fertilization, at which time they consist of 50150 cells.
I am sure you can use your favorite left site such as wiki and find the same
you can read that even wiki says early stage of embro
lostraver 2 years ago
@lostraver
try this one, which is where I got my info.
stemcells(dot)nih(dot)gov
And I didn't say it wasn't an embryo, I said it isn't a fetus.
You are in fact lost and raving.
thisisanaccount100 2 years ago
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prettyemofreak 2 years ago
@prettyemofreak All right then... It seems you are completely incapable of having an intelligent debate and your only recourse is to resort to name calling. I think its completely obvious who the idiot is here. There will be no further replies. The only way to win with you is to not play your silly game.
cgscott 2 years ago
i dont know why these retarded atheists always take it like name calling i'm only stating the obvious what game is this ape talking about i dont know anyway yeah sure w.e dont play my "game" bye Chemical soup, wait fish? no wait ape there we go k bye happy ape days now :))
prettyemofreak 2 years ago
@prettyemofreak You obviously have absolutely no idea what evolution is. Your arguments only serve to show your ignorance.
cgscott 2 years ago
oh ok great evidence of evolution cgscott thanks i'm convinced now lol
prettyemofreak 2 years ago
cgscott btw please do not post anything about me or to me because that prevents from me having to respond to you which prevents me from being in touch with a retard such as yourself k good day :)
prettyemofreak 2 years ago
@prettyemofreak This video might serve for you to understand why exactly there are no "humans with gills" watch?v=7w57_P9DZJ4
cgscott 2 years ago
wow cause i could of sworn i said in the previous post do not write to me or anything you are a retarded ape for a proven fact
prettyemofreak 2 years ago
it blows my mind how a person of 6th grade science level ignorant stubborn retard(evolutionist aka atheist) can come on youtube and say these People real scientists that have devoted theyre lives to true Science say theyre not real scientists and theyre lying because they in fact are not lying and are bringing truth facts and science that Creationism is correct and evolution is debunked and its just plain stupid as the claim they make that we evolved from a monkey, just morons absolute morons
prettyemofreak 2 years ago
Is deception becoming the standard way to spread the gospel of relegion. This is not science this is one side argument and a white wash.
ghassanzabaneh74 2 years ago
BAHAHAHAHA!!! r u serious? If so, that was funny! cause the only one sided propaganda propagated on earth is the neo-evolution agenda....but im sure u were joking no one is that ignorant and stupid to make such a comment in light of the militant evo attack on faith in our schools and media....nice try troll
infinitemika 2 years ago
You can't trust creationists, they lie.
gregrutz 2 years ago
"Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark."
How beautiful and humbling, how inspiring, how unimpeachably magnificent it makes the universe.
And you claim to know the mind of our creator if such exists based on old books, written in obscure language, on a tiny mote of dust, by savages and barbarians who couldn't even understand the power of curiosity?
We atheists have so much more joy in life than believers I'm amazed you don't all kill yourselves to get to heaven...
thisisanaccount100 2 years ago
Can't for it is a mortal sin to Murder anyone, hence the pro life movement, but I am sure its ok 4 U to kill cuz it is only a blob of tissue
lostraver 2 years ago
@thisisanaccount100 "Atheists have so much more joy in life" Ha! Where did you ever get that idea? So thats why so many people without God turn to drugs, money and anything else to try to fill the void that a lack of God leaves. Thats why so many people with all the money in the world were left empty and depressed and many killed themselves because of lack of joy.
I have never heard of an atheist with authentic joy. Temporary happiness, yes, but not joy. God is the only source of joy.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
God is a numbing salve that you put on your fear of annihilation at the end of your life. Anyone living with that kind of fear is missing out on what actual joy means. You numb yourself just like any other addict and you deny it just like them. I truly relish every moment of my existence in awe and wonder that you can't imagine while you regurgitate your ancient stories and try to convince yourself that you're happy all the while knowing deep down its a myth to calm your terror.
thisisanaccount100 1 year ago
@thisisanaccount100 Who have you been talking to? What Christians are living in fear? I'm sure people like that exist, but I don't know of any. I know of hundreds of accounts of some of the bravest people that were Christians. The people that live in fear are the people on tranquilizers, and more commonly, the people that do drugs (including alcohol) as a way of ESCAPE from an empty/meaningless life that happens due to lack of PEACE. Only God gives real Peace. Quit kidding yourself!
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9 I believe it is a fear of not having a pupose, the fear of death, the fear of being completely alone. As an athesist this is what I have accepted and it is a scary feeling, I also think that many athesists have not come to the realisation that when you die, there is no after life. I wish everyone thought this, then they may realise that you the one life you have is precious. Yes drugs, alcohol can fill voids - but so does religion. It is a habit, you NEED it, some would kill for it.
danser01 1 year ago
@thisisanaccount100 The Bible predicted that after Israel becomes a nation (happened in 1948) that this will usher in other events. An increase in earthquakes/natural disasters in increasing areas. (we are seeing large increases) Increase in diseases (we are seeing many new strains) An increase in false prophets (yes) Increase persecution of Christians (yes) Formation of one world government. (happening now) One world money system (has begun) Modern weapons described (yes) Continued......
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
Increase is natural disasters: I doubt that's true but it's also difficult to know what natural disasters have occurred throughout the 4 billions years of the earth's life.
Increase is diseases: Again, no. We have a greater knowledge of what exists. That doesn't mean more exists.
Increase in false prophets: According to you. To them, you are a false prophet.
Increase in persecution: Yeah right. Look at the U.S.
I'll stop here. What you have said is unsubstantiated or just wrong.
TheSeventhSon 1 year ago
@thisisanaccount100 Continued predictions about current events.....The Bible describes a "secure" purchasing system that we now have the technology for. A credit card that could be implanted into the back of a person's hand is now possible. The Bible says that this "number" implanted in the hand (or even forehead) will be required to purchase things in the future. This would be a credit card that could never be lost or stolen. (Forehead even more secure than hand and some have no hands)
romansten9 1 year ago
@thisisanaccount100 The Bible describes people viewing things from all over the world at once. This is now possible because of Live TV. This is yet another thing that the author's of the Bible could not have known about without the Bible being inspired by God. There are many more things like this that could be posted, including all of those that were previously posted.
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
So did science fiction stories from the 1800's. Does that make them prophecies? You're suffering from what's known as a "confirmation bias". It's an EVOLVED human trait, part of the brain's physiology that helps us identify patterns in things. It's why people see unicorns in clouds, more red cars after they buy one and believe in "prophecy" in a universe where truly seeing the future isn't likely. Predicting likely outcomes (like mass viewing) is clever, but not divine.
thisisanaccount100 1 year ago
@thisisanaccount100 Along with all of the other prophesies I listed:
Israel will become a nation again (happened in 1948) Then within a generation: Increase in natural disasters, diseases, false prophets, nations surrounding Israel and warring with them, increase in false prophets and persecutions, etc.
Another prediction during this time. "Red heifers"(cows) will be born in Israel. This animal will be necessary for purification rituals. After 1000's of years, these cows are now back.(1997)
romansten9 1 year ago
@romansten9
Nostradamus has been "proven" correct too by the same standards that you appear to hold as "evidence". Tattoos have been used to prove fidelity to systems for eons, as has the possession of a penis or the appropriate skin color. So you're saying that implantable credit cards are the fulfillment of a "prophecy" that could have been about tattoos? Cows showing up in a country fulfills a prophecy? It's obvious you want this to be true so to you it has become so. It's sad really.
thisisanaccount100 1 year ago
thats all about us. and how we use our brain.and get information...because space...is neverending - but the problem is... that..in this time.. we cant imagine infinity..
VJMCS 2 years ago
The rare earth hypothesis and the anthropic principles that make up the fine tuning of the universe is totally different from the old geocentric concepts of medieval Europe. The Privileged Planet theory is not based on our ignorance of the past. It is based on our knowledge of the present.
benthemiester 2 years ago
You're trying to dissect and remove the same faith which he drew his strength from with a revisionist approach which has absolutely no historical accuracy. He included the words, all Gods children. Now 40 years later you are trying to offer a false narrative in order to try to make a point.
benthemiester 2 years ago
Why do atheist spend so much time criticizing on something they profess not to believe in? Their channels are filled with this subject. Could it be a cry for help? I never argue with people who believe in little green men from outer space.
benthemiester 2 years ago 2
We are trying to bring the human race out of the dark ages. Ancient superstitions hold back science and society and cause needless suffering. They need to be done away with. That is why we argue with you. Also, it's fun.
PluralOfEverything 2 years ago
Really, how many officially atheist countries that have existed in the last 70 years has produced this peaceful productive Utopian society you speak of, was it the former Soviet Union, East Germany or the current S Korea, China, and Cuba where free speech is limited or other? Did creationist like Copernicus,Newton,Pastuer,Keppler,Reddi,Mendel hold us back or even Galileo who was willing to go against the most powerful institution in the world which was the Vatican, hold us back?
benthemiester 2 years ago
I'm certainly not blaming all of the human race's problems on religion. A lot more has to be done than simply doing away with irrational superstitions. Heck, not all of humanity's irrational superstitions are even religious in nature.
The scientists you mention did not come to their conclusions by trusting their religions. They did it by defying them and using science despite everything they were raised to believe. They trusted themselves. That's a very antichristian thing.
PluralOfEverything 2 years ago
You obviously have not read the writings of Newton and Galileo who were devout creationist and deeply religious. Newton was not only a Christian but a Freemason. Mendel was a German monk who devoted his life to God and science. Sorry but all due respect you're going to have to use that on one more gullible. Human nature is human nature. We all have the capacity to kill and rape. The Christian and the atheist. Galileo's beef was with the pope not Christianity.
benthemiester 2 years ago 2
I am well aware that they were christian, but they didn't pray for their scientific discoveries. Religion played no part in them. Science is secular even if the scientist is religious.
PluralOfEverything 2 years ago
Yes I agree with you're statement. Science has to remain neutral but that doesn't mean Gonzalez should have his academic career ruined and get black balled and denied tenure for contributing to this film which merely makes scientific observations about the anthropic nature of our planet. In this respect atheism also has nothing to do with science.
benthemiester 2 years ago
No, Galileo's beef was with the insane belief that a 'intelligent designer' created the Universe, which defies all human logic and reason. Why do you think there aren't any scientists today that argue for 'creationism'? It's because any legitimate Scientist would laugh at any one who said they have actual data that suggest there was a 'creator', just like the idea of teaching I.D. was laughed out of the Supreme Court by one of GW Bush's own appointees.
ColonPal 2 years ago
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LukeSommeBurton 2 years ago
Sorry to inform you, but you're simply WRONG. There are no LEGITIMATE scientists that believe in the Christian idea of God that would ever be taken seriously. Why do you think that the 'Creationism being taught in school' idea was laughed out of the Supreme Court? This is because it is simply NOT a scientific theory, now you could argue that it is a SCIENCE FICTION theory -- and a pretty entertaining one, but the stuff in the BIble and the Koran are strictly in the MYTHOLOGY realm.
ColonPal 2 years ago
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LukeSommeBurton 2 years ago