Open your eyes Thebestever441, United Nations is only the dolled up politically correct term for US empire. Notice how there are no british military bases in the US?
Even our culture is being absorbed by the Brits. Pretty soon, they will start to sound like us. When they stop using that damn metric system and spelling the word color our way, then they will finally be assimilated.
That man is too young to be King George at that time. And why does he have an Irish accent...Anyway, not tt be pedantic, but he is wearing the sash of the Order of the Garter incorrectly: it's worn from left to right, not right to left as portrayed. Great series though. And great men.
@Thebestever441 Kindred blood, meaning that we're related by blood. We were an English colony and many of us at that time in history have relatives to some extent still living in England. No reason why we should be enemies.... According to Mr. Adams diaries the King was touched by his speech and choice of words.
The sad thing is the state of our government today. Just today I read in my history book that in just two months around the revolution that congress declared war, created a new currency system, and built an army. Then look at these fools today, it's a joke.
What's with all the arguments? John Adams and King George are both as British as each other. One just happened to have been born in the colonies, the other as a 'natural citizen' in Great Britain.
All I can say is: Special Relationship ftw, long live the USA and the UK!
As far as writing, acting, directing, cinematography, costumes and scenery--every aspect of film-making I can recall--go, this scene is nearly perfect. It is an excellently choreographed parody of itself.
What a great scene. Imagine the importance of this meeting. The King who lost the colonies meeting the man who hammered away at the notion of independence until he had the numbers. I must chase this John Adams miniseries on DVD and not have to watch it at midnight with commercials.
I agree with other posters on here. The South should secede from the Union. I live in the South and it is indeed the poorest, the most backwards and racist part of the country there is.
Please do it right now so we don't have to hear one more minute of how you were so-called "victims" of the war you lost in 1865!
I am pleased that they didn't depict George as fat and unattractive - he was a rather handsome fellow, and I'm hardly surprised that Brother Jerome's (from Cadfael) descendants would teach toadying.
@fvgdfbdokd Are you serious? What's your definition of 'sod'? I wish the world had more 'sods' like John Adams; one of the greatest statesmen in the western world. Yes, long live the dead empire of England. LOL.
One large error in the making of this scene,the flag on the pole was the Union flag,when the monarch is present it`s the Royal Standard and only the Royal Standard.
The actor playing the King stole the series, In one little scene he steals the series right out from under all of the other great actors who appeared in it.
@31811rcrowley - Absolutely agree with you 1000%. I don't even know his name but whoever he is the guy is an acting genius. I really can't think of any actor portraying a historical figure who just burned the living shit out of the screen in so little time. That IS King George! The first time I saw this scene the chills just went right up my spine. From what I read, that is exactly how King George was. Shy but not shy, ready to gut you at the slightest provocation. And that is before he went mad
@eric5906 Why do you keep posting the same thing? The South is the poorest part of the country. We (The rest of the USA) would love it if you people would just go away. We keep you people alive, keep being racist and poor... we're better off without you.
@Sturmvogel Racism and poverty are found everywhere, and no one is fully-supported by any other. Your comments are as ignorant and self-righteous as that dreadful Gingrich, or his lapdog, Chambliss. Not all Southerners - including myself - are ignorant *or* racist, and are poor because of business practices called "American capitalism." Not all "others" are wise and compassionate - Santorum is not from the South, nor Romney, nor Bachmann.
@suny123boy1 Of course they're a joke the Continental Congress paved the way. It takes a unique group of individuals to create something from nothing. But once a system of rules are in place it really only takes the minimum of intelligence to continue to carry out that system of rules to its end. I would say more but I don't want to bore you. lol
@USMarineRifleman0311 Yes. I was just saying we couldn't do it without France's help, and may I remind this was not the lame France we know today, this is pre-revolution Catholic France....and Catholic France was awesome!
@USMarineRifleman0311 The history on this is very clear! The French Naval Victory over the British at the Chesapeake and 7000 French troops under Rochambeau at Yorktown sealed the deal! Rochambeau and Lafayette were lauded as hero's of our Revolution by our Founding Fathers along side Washington!
I think they portray the whole madness thing and the fact at that time he was a prisoner in his own palace really well. The state department should look into some of George III handlers tactics incase one of the whacky republicans gets in in 2012, gag and handcuffs when talking to foreign leaders.
Even the King was a prophet when he talked about our want for a Monarchy. Here we are today clamoring to throw power at the state toward the expense of Liberty.
In 1767 the great literary critic and writer Samuel Johnson met King George III. In their conversation, the King asked Dr. Johnson if he'd been writing anything, to which Johnson replied that his business as a writer was over. "I should have thought so too," said the king, "if you had not written so well."
Dr. Johnson later wrote that "whatever may be said of the King, his majesty is a perfect gentleman."
I'm glad this scene captures that gentlemanly air in King George III. Love this scene.
@RosaEveningstar I swear, it's intelligent people like you that make the comment section worth reading. Thanks for the good info about Sam Johnson and King George III.
Awkward scene: meeting your former enemy. It would've been interesting to have seen a similiar scene if the Confederates would've gained their independence and appointed an ambassador to the US. Imagine seeing Abe Lincoln receiving the Confederate ambassador.
@LittleDirtyBlonde23 That accent was common throughout most of England in the 1700s, bar the north. It is only now known as a Cornish accent because it has disappeared from most other areas except for the West of England. Some areas of Hampshire, Dorset and Oxfordshire still have this accent as well.
@ZWarrior006 why? he's not your king..and you wouldnt have to worry about him doing something to you such as arresting, killing, molesting etc b/c thats not how they rolled back than
@TheVenturino123 he was your king, and to try to make peace with a very powerful man that use to rule you, but now has to acknowledge you as a separate country...yeah. I don't care. Anyone would have been afraid in that spot. If a person talks crap that they wouldn't, they are bullshitting.
@ZWarrior006 if i was 230 years old than maybe but I wasnt around than so he wasnt my king, nor like i said, to the americans AFTER they won the war he was not their king. If he didnt acknowledge their nation than too bad for him he lost the war
@surelady Don't be naive. Research how the Presidency's transformed from revolution to present. It's often described as an "Imperial Presidency" for a reason. You've invented your own brand of monarchy.
@loystloystloyst lol yip cause an elected Presidential candidate that can only serve the maximum of 2 terms, each for a fixed period of time (something only introduced in this last century, by the way), is pretty much the same thing as monarchy.
@loystloystloyst not necessarily. look at john quincy adams. right after his clumsy election everybody focused on the election 1828. he was a lame duck right from his start.
One of the greatest assets to this series/film (and of the time) was their use of language. Even in the heated debates in the First Continental Congress they ALL spoke in an eloquent way to make their point, which is long lost now.... Sigh. Now it is all loud, profanity filled garble that makes people close their ears to it.
@mgwilliams1000 What the hell are you talking about?! LOL, JK...I agree with you almost entirely...I often rail against the idea (in my mind) that we've dumbed down our speech and now seem to place so little importance on speaking and expressing ideas well, as if somehow it's snobby to sound educated, lucid or even poetic.
@ohevshalomel I would beg for a day when speaking properly and with intelligence would return. And I'm black not that I hold a great deal of importance in this but I found it worth mentioning. Until that day comes I just try to adjust my words as best as I can by making pop culture references and using abbreviation like lol and so on when commenting or talk.
@max2082 Well, I suppose since you mentioned that you are black, I should disclose that I am white, although I'm not sure that either fact bears on this discourse in the slightest. I do use abbreviations and some slang when either appropriate to the medium (such as Facebook) or required in order to express myself fully and colorfully. I do not believe, however, that anyone of any background should ever feel required to lower the quality of his speech for the dubious benefit of others.
Actually, much of this exchange is historically accurate. John Adams memorized the opening speech (including the "good old humor, good old nature" line) he gave and detailed this and the meeting, and what the King said in his letter he sent back to the US Secretary of State at the time. If you go to the US gov "Archives" site, you can find a copy of the letter of his report (3 pages) in his own handwriting. The 3 bows-thing, he also really did have to do that and it was described in his letters.
The shame is that to this day British people can't get a Green Card to actually go to America. When I was in my 20's I wanted to go, and I have a lot of relatives on the East Coast, but it wasn't enough and in the end I gave up. For most British people, Canada would be the nearest thing that they could get to some semblance of the north american way of life. I've never understood that policy myself.
@AnonaThetan That's not true and you know that, Anona. At this moment illegal aliens are being deported at an unprecedented rate. It is a tragedy for everyone.
@N9BJJ There should be more British and other Europeans in the US. But the Democrats prefer to have more Mexicans and illegal aliens so they can pander to them and get them to cast a vote for their party, and they are self-hating Americans, and hate their own fellow white people. Republicans don't want educated white Europeans to dominate the scene (less competition). Additionally, they prefer illegal aliens/Mexicans to sustain a cheap labor force. It's bullshit from both parties.
@N9BJJ I'm sorry that that happened in your case, but I've met quite a few British people who have come to America. The mother of one of my best friends from high school was British, and she had lived in America from well before my friend was born until the day she died.
It's not really rosy for Americans trying to go to Europe, either; the requirements for any American to live, study or work there are insanely bureaucratic and give automatic preference to British and E.U. citizens.
@tharos Well it could be one of either two things:
1) You made a joke that wasn't really funny.
2) You're so ignorant on the subject of relations between nations and especially between those of the UK and US that you actually believe that the former is subservient to the latter.
@tharos Even the British don't generally behave this way to their monarch anymore. However even the colonists were more fussy than congressmen generally are nowadays. There's still some bowing in certain occasions, and you stand up when the Prez enters, etc.
An ambassador is greeted in a formal room and there's usually an exchange of some sort. That's pretty much it. The British usually get a much longer initial conversation, since they're unofficial advisors.
the casting of king george iii was the best one in this series. i would love to see a spin off series starring tom hollander which depict the same events from his point of view
The Good Old Nature and the Good Old Humor indeed. While we and the UK have had our differences, we Yanks with some sense have never forgotten who our true mother country is. Try firing just one missile at England and an American carrier group will grind you into so much mush.
@scarabmango I agree. Whoever tries to mess with the British, and the US will be there in a heart-beat without hesitation, guaranteed. I think that is the sentiment most Americans have towards the British.
I wish a similiar scene could have happened after the American Civil War: the Confederates sending a CSA ambassador to Washington, DC, shaking hands with the US President.
@whh01 NO. You missed my point. I would've liked to have seen a victorious CSA ambassador to the USA being received as a foreign dignitary NOT as a defeated group of 'rebels'. I could easily see Lincoln hating every minute of that mtg.
@eric5906 Yeah well it didn't happen. Sorry, you guys lost big time. Though most of the rest of the country wishes you Southerners were a different country.
@Sturmvogel Dickless, who's the one who keeps repeating themselves? How many times do you have to say, 'oh, we all hate you, blah blah blah' After the next economic collapse, and your Obama is crowned emperor, again, the so-called USA will fragment into pieces and we will see what parts flourish and which parts go to shit.
There is only only one thing I have ever agreed with Rush Limbaugh about. And that is when he said the average royal family member could not hold a job at McDonald's.
Notice how he says The United States of America HAVE appointed me... instead of "The United States of America HAS appointed me..." Before the Civil War, the US was looked at as several united entities instead of one whole nation. The War changed that.
@Xerxes2005 the "united stateS of America" was a phase formed by a few English words, which still follow the grammar. but nowadays, "The United States of America" has become an integrated entity. You shall now try to break the words.
@Xerxes2005 No, the United States of America has been viewed since the Civil War as a singular noun. It is a single entity, not a conglomerate of nations. Before the Civil War, the US was kinda similar to the Republic on Star Wars; a bunch of respresentatives from different states coming together, but not necessarily a single entity.
Up until the Civil War we referred to "The United States of America" using plural terms, but after the Civil War it has always been singular... sort of an odd bit of history where because of events we no longer follow proper grammar..
The startling thing I realized is that later in the series both John Adams and Thomas Jefferson freely roamed the Capital while they were in office. And how this fortress of protection and levels of security you had to go through to seek audience with King George resembles the Oval Office.
They beefed up security every time there was an assassination attempt in the US. Back then I don't think they ever thought it was an issue. Obviously many people in Europe would have loved to kill the English king if they got the chance.
Poor Mad George, having to meet the Ambassador from the nation that sent him over the edge. He held up well under the circumstances, wouldn't you say? Although I don't know how much of it was proper Royal reserve, and how much of it was not wanting to give Adams the satisfaction of seeing him as a blithering fool.
I don't think it totally sunk in until later upon more and more reflection.; His eyes conveyed the pain though. Good acting by the guy who played King George!!!
@patriotadEEUU you mean the very French Rothschilds who bankrupted the French monarchy just to fund the Americans against the British? The French Rothschilds who managed America's early reserves. The British defeated the Rothschilds in Quebec, Canada. But these same French Rothschilds lobbied in your Congress to print money and let banks free from regulations
Who controls America's money now? The children of Rothschild = the banks. and your banks do not care who makes laws as long as they profit
I keep being drawn to this scene. I see events today, such as the revolutions in Egypt and Lybia. What is lacking there (and it frightens me) is the absence of delegated leadership as you see here. Our own past would have been wars between colonies for power if not for these men. A Congress was assembled BEFORE declaring independance. After they established their sovereignty they were able to establish proper relations with other nations....even the one they broke with.
Notice his hesitation at saying the United States of America? If I was in Adams position I would have difficulty reminding such an intimidating figure of the loss of a prized and hard fought over wonderful un explored continent. Very well acted scene. Few words but electricity in every one.
wtf with the pillow under his feet
lethrneck4 1 day ago
What's the title of the music which starts at 1:39 ?
zokzokzok 2 days ago
You guys really need to lighten up lol
VEGITAS4 4 days ago
Open your eyes Thebestever441, United Nations is only the dolled up politically correct term for US empire. Notice how there are no british military bases in the US?
Even our culture is being absorbed by the Brits. Pretty soon, they will start to sound like us. When they stop using that damn metric system and spelling the word color our way, then they will finally be assimilated.
Mwahahahahahaaaa!!!
VEGITAS4 4 days ago
@VEGITAS4 Egland doesn't use the metric system, idiot. And I much prefer british spelling, for the record. It makes more sence.
KauKatKay 4 days ago
@VEGITAS4 You are so very pathetic to believe/say what you did. The US will never rule of the British or her remaining realm, keep dreaming.
JimmyG228 2 days ago
Wonder what if, George Washington came to King George III instead of Mr. Adams?
CaptainRon956 4 days ago
@CaptainRon956 it was Adams who made America
karz12 3 days ago
If only king George were alive today to see great Briton become an American colony lmao!!
VEGITAS4 4 days ago
@VEGITAS4 England sure lost it's empire, but it belongs to nobody but Parliament and the Queen.
Thebestever441 4 days ago
The music as he arrives at the Palace reminds me of Barry Lyndon.
ginjaninja1988 5 days ago
That man is too young to be King George at that time. And why does he have an Irish accent...Anyway, not tt be pedantic, but he is wearing the sash of the Order of the Garter incorrectly: it's worn from left to right, not right to left as portrayed. Great series though. And great men.
fjnjn 5 days ago
@fjnjn American directors maybe? lol, oops...
CaptainRon956 4 days ago
He seems a bit young to be King George III.
dojokonojo 6 days ago
@Thebestever441 "Who, though separated by an ocean and under different governments have the same language, similar religion, and kindred blood"
skalliavas 6 days ago
What did John say at 5:31 until his majesty turned his head.
Thebestever441 1 week ago
@Thebestever441 Kindred blood, meaning that we're related by blood. We were an English colony and many of us at that time in history have relatives to some extent still living in England. No reason why we should be enemies.... According to Mr. Adams diaries the King was touched by his speech and choice of words.
CaptainRon956 4 days ago 5
@CaptainRon956 Thank you very much. I kept trying to figure out what he said.
Thebestever441 4 days ago
It is grotesque they're playing Jean Baptiste Lully, court composer to Louis XIV, to reference the English court. Bad form!
lewisbreland 1 week ago
@lewisbreland They played Handel's Sarabande....you little noob.
ModellMeister 1 week ago
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Nedyah74 1 week ago
What is the name of the song at 1:46?
lildrummercm17 1 week ago
Awkward!
Ferdinand1989 3 weeks ago
The sad thing is the state of our government today. Just today I read in my history book that in just two months around the revolution that congress declared war, created a new currency system, and built an army. Then look at these fools today, it's a joke.
suny123boy1 3 weeks ago
@suny123boy1 Oh, modern politicians are very energetic...it's just that what they do destroys the country that the founding fathers created.
ohevshalomel 2 weeks ago
What's with all the arguments? John Adams and King George are both as British as each other. One just happened to have been born in the colonies, the other as a 'natural citizen' in Great Britain.
All I can say is: Special Relationship ftw, long live the USA and the UK!
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As far as writing, acting, directing, cinematography, costumes and scenery--every aspect of film-making I can recall--go, this scene is nearly perfect. It is an excellently choreographed parody of itself.
ohevshalomel 4 weeks ago
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ohevshalomel 4 weeks ago
What a great scene. Imagine the importance of this meeting. The King who lost the colonies meeting the man who hammered away at the notion of independence until he had the numbers. I must chase this John Adams miniseries on DVD and not have to watch it at midnight with commercials.
MsSmallthings 1 month ago
@MsSmallthings It's worth the hunt. I recently rented it from Netflix.
ohevshalomel 4 weeks ago
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danamdkny 1 month ago
I agree with other posters on here. The South should secede from the Union. I live in the South and it is indeed the poorest, the most backwards and racist part of the country there is.
Please do it right now so we don't have to hear one more minute of how you were so-called "victims" of the war you lost in 1865!
Snicklefritz1979 1 month ago
I am pleased that they didn't depict George as fat and unattractive - he was a rather handsome fellow, and I'm hardly surprised that Brother Jerome's (from Cadfael) descendants would teach toadying.
caitsidhe 1 month ago 2
America is such a stupid nation. No wonder they chose this sod as their ambassador. Long Live Her Majesty the Queen, America. xD
fvgdfbdokd 1 month ago
@fvgdfbdokd Are you serious? What's your definition of 'sod'? I wish the world had more 'sods' like John Adams; one of the greatest statesmen in the western world. Yes, long live the dead empire of England. LOL.
eric5906 1 month ago
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fvgdfbdokd 1 month ago
One large error in the making of this scene,the flag on the pole was the Union flag,when the monarch is present it`s the Royal Standard and only the Royal Standard.
bazzatheblue 1 month ago
The actor playing the King stole the series, In one little scene he steals the series right out from under all of the other great actors who appeared in it.
31811rcrowley 1 month ago
@31811rcrowley - Absolutely agree with you 1000%. I don't even know his name but whoever he is the guy is an acting genius. I really can't think of any actor portraying a historical figure who just burned the living shit out of the screen in so little time. That IS King George! The first time I saw this scene the chills just went right up my spine. From what I read, that is exactly how King George was. Shy but not shy, ready to gut you at the slightest provocation. And that is before he went mad
JamesTKirkCobain 1 month ago
Wish the Confederates could've sent an ambassador to the US and made Abe Lincoln acknowledge him.
eric5906 1 month ago
@eric5906 lol
tikimandude112 1 month ago
@eric5906 you should have won the Gettysburg ,maybe they would then.
bazzatheblue 1 month ago
@bazzatheblue Oh, how we tried. Oh, how we tried.
eric5906 1 month ago
@eric5906 Why do you keep posting the same thing? The South is the poorest part of the country. We (The rest of the USA) would love it if you people would just go away. We keep you people alive, keep being racist and poor... we're better off without you.
Sturmvogel 1 month ago
@Sturmvogel Racism and poverty are found everywhere, and no one is fully-supported by any other. Your comments are as ignorant and self-righteous as that dreadful Gingrich, or his lapdog, Chambliss. Not all Southerners - including myself - are ignorant *or* racist, and are poor because of business practices called "American capitalism." Not all "others" are wise and compassionate - Santorum is not from the South, nor Romney, nor Bachmann.
caitsidhe 1 month ago
@Sturmvogel "Why do you keep posting the same thing?" I didn't know you pay so close attention to my fucking comments. LOL.
eric5906 1 month ago
NEWT GINGRICH FOR 2012
tim32211 1 month ago
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fvgdfbdokd 1 month ago
@tim32211 How about Mickey Mouse for 2012? I'd rather vote for a dead dog than the eye of Newt.
eric5906 1 month ago
@eric5906
Seriously, the people in our government are a joke compared to the guys that were in the continental congress.
suny123boy1 3 weeks ago 7
@suny123boy1 Of course they're a joke the Continental Congress paved the way. It takes a unique group of individuals to create something from nothing. But once a system of rules are in place it really only takes the minimum of intelligence to continue to carry out that system of rules to its end. I would say more but I don't want to bore you. lol
max2082 3 weeks ago
Great scene ! Someone to give me the name of the music at 1:38 ?
zienit 1 month ago
@zienit Handel's Sarabanade.
DuPuieproductions 1 month ago
@DuPuieproductions A big thank you to you !
zienit 1 month ago
What John Adams should have said was: We kicked your ass, you bow to me, bitch.
david1982129 1 month ago
@david1982129 France kicked their ass for us.
Thomas22388 1 month ago
@Thomas22388
France personally fought in 2 out of the 62 allied victories during the war
We did the ass kicking, they paid for our powder and shot
USMarineRifleman0311 1 month ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 Yes. I was just saying we couldn't do it without France's help, and may I remind this was not the lame France we know today, this is pre-revolution Catholic France....and Catholic France was awesome!
Thomas22388 1 month ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 The history on this is very clear! The French Naval Victory over the British at the Chesapeake and 7000 French troops under Rochambeau at Yorktown sealed the deal! Rochambeau and Lafayette were lauded as hero's of our Revolution by our Founding Fathers along side Washington!
rylege 1 month ago
God bless king George III
Agorsan 1 month ago
I knew King John was bad but this is too far
j3parrots 1 month ago
its Tom Hollander and he can do subtle breakdown very well re: In The Loop
j3parrots 1 month ago
I think they portray the whole madness thing and the fact at that time he was a prisoner in his own palace really well. The state department should look into some of George III handlers tactics incase one of the whacky republicans gets in in 2012, gag and handcuffs when talking to foreign leaders.
j3parrots 1 month ago
King George III - What an entitled b**ch! Well this the scene when you break up with someone and you meet them in another situation. Awkward!
jteruel671 2 months ago
Even the King was a prophet when he talked about our want for a Monarchy. Here we are today clamoring to throw power at the state toward the expense of Liberty.
AnchorsAweigh2010 2 months ago
Fuck monarchs, I still say oust the royal family for being the biggest welfare whores on the planet
stavie04 2 months ago
love the music
olejohnny64 2 months ago
In 1767 the great literary critic and writer Samuel Johnson met King George III. In their conversation, the King asked Dr. Johnson if he'd been writing anything, to which Johnson replied that his business as a writer was over. "I should have thought so too," said the king, "if you had not written so well."
Dr. Johnson later wrote that "whatever may be said of the King, his majesty is a perfect gentleman."
I'm glad this scene captures that gentlemanly air in King George III. Love this scene.
RosaEveningstar 2 months ago 21
@RosaEveningstar I swear, it's intelligent people like you that make the comment section worth reading. Thanks for the good info about Sam Johnson and King George III.
eric5906 1 month ago
@eric5906 Thank you for the kind words.
RosaEveningstar 1 month ago
Best scene in the entire series. SUCK IT GEORGIE!
mcstaford 2 months ago
Awkward scene: meeting your former enemy. It would've been interesting to have seen a similiar scene if the Confederates would've gained their independence and appointed an ambassador to the US. Imagine seeing Abe Lincoln receiving the Confederate ambassador.
eric5906 3 months ago
00:43 - Cornish sounding accent - a region of Northern England
LittleDirtyBlonde23 3 months ago
@LittleDirtyBlonde23 wow-on my map, Cornwall is in the extreme south-west of the island.
NixonisLord 3 months ago
@LittleDirtyBlonde23 But Cornwall is in the SW of the Island.. Not a region of northern England..
Salvus967 2 months ago
@LittleDirtyBlonde23 That accent was common throughout most of England in the 1700s, bar the north. It is only now known as a Cornish accent because it has disappeared from most other areas except for the West of England. Some areas of Hampshire, Dorset and Oxfordshire still have this accent as well.
KingdomEnfilade 2 months ago
4:34 George III got his Derp Face on.
ImmaSigner 3 months ago
They both get teary eyed. Sweet.
KingRobbStark 3 months ago
Yeah...I would have been so damn scared if I was in adam's place.
ZWarrior006 3 months ago
@ZWarrior006 why? he's not your king..and you wouldnt have to worry about him doing something to you such as arresting, killing, molesting etc b/c thats not how they rolled back than
TheVenturino123 3 months ago
@TheVenturino123 he was your king, and to try to make peace with a very powerful man that use to rule you, but now has to acknowledge you as a separate country...yeah. I don't care. Anyone would have been afraid in that spot. If a person talks crap that they wouldn't, they are bullshitting.
ZWarrior006 3 months ago
@ZWarrior006 if i was 230 years old than maybe but I wasnt around than so he wasnt my king, nor like i said, to the americans AFTER they won the war he was not their king. If he didnt acknowledge their nation than too bad for him he lost the war
TheVenturino123 3 months ago
can anyone tell me what's the background score ?
federicogaon 3 months ago
Somehow, the King doesn't seem too pleased with John Adam's public address.
PETITEPIINK 3 months ago
It's heartbreaking to see King George suffer the presence of a commoner and traitor such as John Adams. He should have been beheaded on the spot!
mcpwns 3 months ago
Okay.
The King: Beckett from Pirates of the Caribbean
that confuses me.
PLUS
Hetalia Axis Powers even I don't like USUK
I'm weird aren't I
FireSath 3 months ago
"I pray that the United States does not suffer unduly from its want of a monarchy..."
Nope.
surelady 3 months ago
@surelady Don't be naive. Research how the Presidency's transformed from revolution to present. It's often described as an "Imperial Presidency" for a reason. You've invented your own brand of monarchy.
loystloystloyst 3 months ago
@loystloystloyst lol yip cause an elected Presidential candidate that can only serve the maximum of 2 terms, each for a fixed period of time (something only introduced in this last century, by the way), is pretty much the same thing as monarchy.
surelady 3 months ago
@surelady A President who serves a single term has more sweeping powers than George III had his entire reign under Cabinet government.
loystloystloyst 3 months ago
@loystloystloyst Can you direct me to any sources on this? I find that extremely interesting.
tikletik 3 months ago
@loystloystloyst not necessarily. look at john quincy adams. right after his clumsy election everybody focused on the election 1828. he was a lame duck right from his start.
beidlgsicht 3 weeks ago in playlist John Adams
One of the greatest assets to this series/film (and of the time) was their use of language. Even in the heated debates in the First Continental Congress they ALL spoke in an eloquent way to make their point, which is long lost now.... Sigh. Now it is all loud, profanity filled garble that makes people close their ears to it.
mgwilliams1000 3 months ago 9
@mgwilliams1000 Lol, yeah. 100 years later, it's "WELCOME TO FUCKIN' DEADWOOD!!!"
scarabmango 3 months ago
@mgwilliams1000 What the hell are you talking about?! LOL, JK...I agree with you almost entirely...I often rail against the idea (in my mind) that we've dumbed down our speech and now seem to place so little importance on speaking and expressing ideas well, as if somehow it's snobby to sound educated, lucid or even poetic.
ohevshalomel 4 weeks ago
@ohevshalomel I would beg for a day when speaking properly and with intelligence would return. And I'm black not that I hold a great deal of importance in this but I found it worth mentioning. Until that day comes I just try to adjust my words as best as I can by making pop culture references and using abbreviation like lol and so on when commenting or talk.
max2082 3 weeks ago
@max2082 Well, I suppose since you mentioned that you are black, I should disclose that I am white, although I'm not sure that either fact bears on this discourse in the slightest. I do use abbreviations and some slang when either appropriate to the medium (such as Facebook) or required in order to express myself fully and colorfully. I do not believe, however, that anyone of any background should ever feel required to lower the quality of his speech for the dubious benefit of others.
ohevshalomel 3 weeks ago
King George III and President George Washington. If that is not symbolism I don't know what is.
Tasadaru 3 months ago
I think the outfits of the coldstream guards are cool.
zyzor 3 months ago 2
John Adams: so all tensions and hostilities are resolved no hard feeling right? Our two nations will coexist peacefully."
King George: with fingers crossed behind his back and mutters in a whisper: "We'll be back you just wait you prick."
flash forward to war of 1812 when U.S. capital is burned and james madison flees the white house, King george says tolday we'd be back.
zyzor 3 months ago
one of the most awkward moments in the history
somvile 4 months ago
Actually, much of this exchange is historically accurate. John Adams memorized the opening speech (including the "good old humor, good old nature" line) he gave and detailed this and the meeting, and what the King said in his letter he sent back to the US Secretary of State at the time. If you go to the US gov "Archives" site, you can find a copy of the letter of his report (3 pages) in his own handwriting. The 3 bows-thing, he also really did have to do that and it was described in his letters.
myster1234 4 months ago 3
is that Cutler Beckett?
mo508 4 months ago
@mo508 no he's king george III...lol jk yeah thats him
TheVenturino123 4 months ago
Oh! This gives me chills still!!
rubyflipper 4 months ago
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All this bullshit and we still kicked their ass.
hineni53 4 months ago
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hineni53 4 months ago
if i were John Adams.. i would have walked in there like the BOSS!!!.. saying, "bruh, here's the way its gonna be!...."
ColeBeasley 4 months ago
@ColeBeasley not a bad idea...and than you'd be ripped to pieces
TheVenturino123 4 months ago
loooooool im sure that king george aka george of the jungle started laughing his ass off as soon as john adams left.
Solja2010 4 months ago
"An honest man will never have any other." Wow.
fkreller1 4 months ago
Hetalia translation:
USA: *awkward silence*
England: *trying not to look at America*
USA: we...can still be friends...right?
England: *glances at him, then looks away*yeah...but...you don't like France, right?
USA: no...
England: okay then. Friends.
phoenixhart17 4 months ago 39
The shame is that to this day British people can't get a Green Card to actually go to America. When I was in my 20's I wanted to go, and I have a lot of relatives on the East Coast, but it wasn't enough and in the end I gave up. For most British people, Canada would be the nearest thing that they could get to some semblance of the north american way of life. I've never understood that policy myself.
N9BJJ 4 months ago
@N9BJJ Just come illegally...Then you get everything handed to you...even more than I can get
AnonaThetan 4 months ago
@AnonaThetan That's not true and you know that, Anona. At this moment illegal aliens are being deported at an unprecedented rate. It is a tragedy for everyone.
rubyflipper 4 months ago
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@rubyflipper You just proved my point..They get a free trip to Mexico that I would never get
AnonaThetan 4 months ago
@N9BJJ u dont want to go to USA right now with inflation and obama care its just a mess. Trust me Ur not missing much ;)
steckkid1997 4 months ago
@N9BJJ It is really NOT a good time to come. Economy is unbelievably bad and growing worse daily. God help us!
rubyflipper 4 months ago
@N9BJJ There should be more British and other Europeans in the US. But the Democrats prefer to have more Mexicans and illegal aliens so they can pander to them and get them to cast a vote for their party, and they are self-hating Americans, and hate their own fellow white people. Republicans don't want educated white Europeans to dominate the scene (less competition). Additionally, they prefer illegal aliens/Mexicans to sustain a cheap labor force. It's bullshit from both parties.
myster1234 4 months ago
@N9BJJ I'm sorry that that happened in your case, but I've met quite a few British people who have come to America. The mother of one of my best friends from high school was British, and she had lived in America from well before my friend was born until the day she died.
It's not really rosy for Americans trying to go to Europe, either; the requirements for any American to live, study or work there are insanely bureaucratic and give automatic preference to British and E.U. citizens.
ohevshalomel 3 weeks ago
What a throne room!
DeltaEagle7700 4 months ago
I assume that this is the manner in which the British bring themselves before the President nowadays.
tharos 4 months ago
@tharos Joke fail.
TheSirPrise 4 months ago
@TheSirPrise
Who was joking?
tharos 4 months ago
@tharos Well it could be one of either two things:
1) You made a joke that wasn't really funny.
2) You're so ignorant on the subject of relations between nations and especially between those of the UK and US that you actually believe that the former is subservient to the latter.
TheSirPrise 4 months ago
@tharos Even the British don't generally behave this way to their monarch anymore. However even the colonists were more fussy than congressmen generally are nowadays. There's still some bowing in certain occasions, and you stand up when the Prez enters, etc.
An ambassador is greeted in a formal room and there's usually an exchange of some sort. That's pretty much it. The British usually get a much longer initial conversation, since they're unofficial advisors.
Lamashtar 4 months ago
@tharos That kind of bullshit is tasteless and inflammatory. Go troll elsewhere.
scarabmango 4 months ago
Beautiful scene.
fkreller1 4 months ago in playlist fkreller1's Favorited Videos
the casting of king george iii was the best one in this series. i would love to see a spin off series starring tom hollander which depict the same events from his point of view
CaseyRocky 5 months ago
The Good Old Nature and the Good Old Humor indeed. While we and the UK have had our differences, we Yanks with some sense have never forgotten who our true mother country is. Try firing just one missile at England and an American carrier group will grind you into so much mush.
scarabmango 5 months ago 18
@scarabmango Well said.
kopec1 5 months ago
@scarabmango I agree. Whoever tries to mess with the British, and the US will be there in a heart-beat without hesitation, guaranteed. I think that is the sentiment most Americans have towards the British.
myster1234 4 months ago
@scarabmango scotland too............?
pithie84 3 months ago
@pithie84 No. Scotland will be sacrificed. The recipe for Scotch whiskey will be properly applied in America.
scarabmango 2 months ago
@scarabmango LOL
pithie84 2 months ago
I wish a similiar scene could have happened after the American Civil War: the Confederates sending a CSA ambassador to Washington, DC, shaking hands with the US President.
eric5906 5 months ago
@eric5906 they did... it was Robert E. Lee and he shook hands with U.S. Grant at Appomattox.
whh01 4 months ago
@whh01 NO. You missed my point. I would've liked to have seen a victorious CSA ambassador to the USA being received as a foreign dignitary NOT as a defeated group of 'rebels'. I could easily see Lincoln hating every minute of that mtg.
eric5906 4 months ago
@eric5906 Yeah well it didn't happen. Sorry, you guys lost big time. Though most of the rest of the country wishes you Southerners were a different country.
Sturmvogel 1 month ago
@Sturmvogel Dickless, who's the one who keeps repeating themselves? How many times do you have to say, 'oh, we all hate you, blah blah blah' After the next economic collapse, and your Obama is crowned emperor, again, the so-called USA will fragment into pieces and we will see what parts flourish and which parts go to shit.
eric5906 1 month ago
most awkward moment in history
sfafasfasfsa 5 months ago
There is only only one thing I have ever agreed with Rush Limbaugh about. And that is when he said the average royal family member could not hold a job at McDonald's.
gsdotgs 5 months ago
Bowing kiss my royal american ass your majesty.
hineni53 5 months ago
I love sarabande.
Jc40k1 5 months ago
I wonder if anyone ripped Adams for bowing to a foreign head of state like they do Obama today.
CrazyOldMaurice69 5 months ago 2
Notice how he says The United States of America HAVE appointed me... instead of "The United States of America HAS appointed me..." Before the Civil War, the US was looked at as several united entities instead of one whole nation. The War changed that.
piratesmvp 5 months ago 3
@piratesmvp Since it is the United StateS of America, shouldn't it be "have" anyway? I speak French so I'm wondering.
Xerxes2005 5 months ago
@Xerxes2005 the "united stateS of America" was a phase formed by a few English words, which still follow the grammar. but nowadays, "The United States of America" has become an integrated entity. You shall now try to break the words.
skyfrank 5 months ago
@Xerxes2005 No, the United States of America has been viewed since the Civil War as a singular noun. It is a single entity, not a conglomerate of nations. Before the Civil War, the US was kinda similar to the Republic on Star Wars; a bunch of respresentatives from different states coming together, but not necessarily a single entity.
piratesmvp 5 months ago
@Xerxes2005 But, anyways, the point is that HBO got the historical facts right with this one.
piratesmvp 5 months ago
@Xerxes2005
Up until the Civil War we referred to "The United States of America" using plural terms, but after the Civil War it has always been singular... sort of an odd bit of history where because of events we no longer follow proper grammar..
Robertz1986 5 months ago
Two incredible actors in one of the greatest scenes ever filmed for television.
jumpoutatree 5 months ago 2
who is playing king george 3
garciarivero1 5 months ago
@garciarivero1 Tom Hollander.
Lieblingsfachful 5 months ago
The startling thing I realized is that later in the series both John Adams and Thomas Jefferson freely roamed the Capital while they were in office. And how this fortress of protection and levels of security you had to go through to seek audience with King George resembles the Oval Office.
TheDMDowntown1 5 months ago
@TheDMDowntown1
They beefed up security every time there was an assassination attempt in the US. Back then I don't think they ever thought it was an issue. Obviously many people in Europe would have loved to kill the English king if they got the chance.
AmericanNohbuddy 5 months ago
Poor Mad George, having to meet the Ambassador from the nation that sent him over the edge. He held up well under the circumstances, wouldn't you say? Although I don't know how much of it was proper Royal reserve, and how much of it was not wanting to give Adams the satisfaction of seeing him as a blithering fool.
therealjoebloggs 5 months ago
@therealjoebloggs
I don't think it totally sunk in until later upon more and more reflection.; His eyes conveyed the pain though. Good acting by the guy who played King George!!!
suryavajra 5 months ago
King George called the United States the "United State" when Speaking to John Adams....
happymax1 5 months ago
so, are we cool?
yeah...we're cool
jerryvalez 5 months ago 31
"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws"—Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild
patriotadEEUU 6 months ago
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@patriotadEEUU you mean the very French Rothschilds who bankrupted the French monarchy just to fund the Americans against the British? The French Rothschilds who managed America's early reserves. The British defeated the Rothschilds in Quebec, Canada. But these same French Rothschilds lobbied in your Congress to print money and let banks free from regulations
Who controls America's money now? The children of Rothschild = the banks. and your banks do not care who makes laws as long as they profit
flowerpuff2001 5 months ago
king george sounds like a bumpkin. heh
DiamandaHagan 6 months ago
and after 200 years USA, UK and France became the strongest allies :)
lifeworthliving2010 6 months ago
@lifeworthliving2010
Only because the banker pigs got control of the monetary system. And now, we are paving the wave for world government. Happy?
patriotadEEUU 6 months ago
@patriotadEEUU but your government support them. so any problem? even your federal reserve is made by your banks not by your people.
lifeworthliving2010 6 months ago
King George ultimately bowed to America.
mrceebees14 6 months ago
I keep being drawn to this scene. I see events today, such as the revolutions in Egypt and Lybia. What is lacking there (and it frightens me) is the absence of delegated leadership as you see here. Our own past would have been wars between colonies for power if not for these men. A Congress was assembled BEFORE declaring independance. After they established their sovereignty they were able to establish proper relations with other nations....even the one they broke with.
mgwilliams1000 6 months ago
Notice his hesitation at saying the United States of America? If I was in Adams position I would have difficulty reminding such an intimidating figure of the loss of a prized and hard fought over wonderful un explored continent. Very well acted scene. Few words but electricity in every one.
grimblebrumble17889 6 months ago
Ron Paul?
Justbeatit999 6 months ago