The Shaman (trailer)

[uphamtimothy]

"Doroba" -- "Greetings" in Nganasan. It is a critically endangered language in Siberia. Indigenous people of Siberia are losing their language to Russian. The reason why is because of the history of boarding schools, and when they go to trade and buy, all of it is done in Russian. Their can kept their language alive through shamanistic songs, but it must go further. Such as schools with language immersion programs, and purchasing in their own language.

[ustalo]

Это не русские, но нганасаны

[2008PVB]

It's nice to find here our Russian Siberian shamans :-)

[naaaaaagz]

absolutely amazing video. pity for the music mashup, apparently the film was made in the 70s/80s, when lots of documentaries were spiced up with out-of-subject soundtracks (can-can for driving videos, krautrock for scientific showreels and now this..)

[LiveLoveBurnDeath]

Nenets and Inuit: singular xongyeqngad'm / siniktumni (siniktunga) "Im sleep" xongyeqngan / siniktutin ' you sleep' xongyeqnga / sininga (siniktuq) 'he/she sleep' (dual) xongyeqngangix / siniktuguk 'we two sleep xongyeqngadyix / siniktutik 'you two sleep xongyeqngax"x / siningak (siniktuk) 'they two sleep' (plural) xongyeqngawaq / siniktugut 'we are sleep xongyeqngadaq / siniktusi 'you all sleep xongyeqngaq / siningat (siniktut) 'they all sleep'

[LiveLoveBurnDeath]

Eskimo-Aleut and Samoyedic has dual. singular/dual/plural Samoyedic/Sirenik/Inuit mengi / menga / uvanga 'me' mengix / no dual / uvaguk 'we (dual) mengaq / mengkut / uvagut 'we (plural) xalya / iqaluk 'fish' xalyana / iqalungni 'on/at/in a/the fish' xalyak / iqaluup 'to/of the fish' xalyamna / iqalupkut 'along, throught fish' xalyanyad / iqalungmut 'from the fish'

[LiveLoveBurnDeath]

Im Inuk

I ve seen all Samoyedic and Chukchee and Itelmen are very similar to Eskimo-Aleut However i dont see Inuit similar Hungarian's language...it was quite different

And you see the word "Shaman" :

nge" - Nganasan

tadewya (tadebya) - Nenets (similar Proto-Eskimo's word "taru/tadu" for "human being" in Shaman's word

angatkuq/angakkuq (Inuit)

angalkuq (Yupik)

angangel'e-n (engengel'e-n) (Chukchee)

anansa'kaz (Itelmen)

[Ochsenburg]

absolutely sick to add a kind (horror) music to a shaman - dance - these filmmakers disqualify themselves

[gregoryburrows]

agree TOTALLY -- thumbs down for that from me also. Talk about not getting it, not perceiving, not feeling spirit of what's going on there. That music was ruination of a profound moment.

[whateva1983]

more like a biasentary... what's up with the horror music? there should be respect and opening towards the rich and very human shamanic religious tradiyion. this doesn't reflect that. those who made this documentary spit in the name of the great anthrpologists like Malinowski....

[BPmmxFX]

It's a Russian production - nothing I could do about... The music is not horror - just dramatic, trying to emphesize the particular (dramatic) moment. I don't think it diminishes the shamanic tradition, which BTW is as far from religious as from human (it's closer to animal spirit than to human...)

What is "biasentary" anyway..?

[DritonGusia]

@BPmmxFX I don't know is it horror or dramatic but it just does not reflect the shamanic experience, it really sounds disrespectful for such music is more correlated to negative phenomenons in television as far as I can say

[DritonGusia]

@whateva1983 thats exactly what bothered me, I totally agree

[mohamedsucksdick]

That dude gets out of his tree!

[BPmmxFX]

At least he's out of it...

Using something like Mohamed Sucks Dick for a name just proves how far deep in a jungle you still are, dude...

[buddhafollower]

Their religion is like the Bönpo tradition in anchient Tibet, before the arrive of Buddhism.

[buddhafollower]

That was a spiritual trance.

[fortyfourcaliber]

Damn, scary music at 1:11 haha.

[miighankurt]

Our folks do that all the time it became corny. You can go about putting spikes in you 2 ways. Without dance and overcome pain or with dance and chant but then that's an illusion, and you will be screwing around with that. Anyways Pitoraq thanks fort discribing our folks like we are some kind of monkeys.

[renato555]

interesting

[Avainparasite]

and yet another episode of zoo-anthropology: take the camera and film everything, underlie it with music and create an image of savagery.

this is without respect for indigenous cultures.

[BPmmxFX]

Beauty (as well as savagery) is in the eyes of a beholder...

I don't see any zoo-anthropology or disrespect; instead, I see a video recording of the last shaman of this particular tribe (Nganasan, Siberia), performing one of the rites...

Since shamans often depict animals in their rites - hence the connection, which you pejoratively described as "zoo-anthropology"(?)

[ronniboe]

You can see how the early Native Americans were before the European invasion...gf

[Pitoraq]

Nganasan are a Uralic people living in taymyr penisula, there language is distant related to finnish and hungarian

Anthropologically, the Nganasans are representatives of the Uralic race in which Mongoloid and Arctic traits dominate European. Nganasans are a short (men up to 160 cm), stocky people. They have a broad face with high cheekbones, a flat nose and the epicanthic fold. Hair and eyes are dark but the skin is relatively fair.

[odin422]

you cant tell SHIT from this, get fucking real.

[KashyaCharsi]

he must be very powerful if the spirits have allowed him to use a drum

[BPmmxFX]

He was the last shaman of the Nganasan tribe...

[KashyaCharsi]

Oh, I remember then. I think his son gave his drum to a museum...

[KashyaCharsi]

Is he performing a hunting?

[BPmmxFX]

He's performing a rite called Kolanye; it must be in Russian, not sure what it means, but to the best of my knowledge sounds like "slaughter"...

Anybody..? Any better ideas..? Translations..?

[KashyaCharsi]

hmm...I don't know who speaks Nganasan here...

[ungazik]

For us, ``Chrestomathia Samoyedica'' is an easily available source, it is a good point for start. It has been published in Hungary, and it contains Nenets, Enets, Nganasan and Selkup texts, grammar and vocabulary.

[ungazik]

OFF: If You live in Hungary, You can avail a huge amount of materials about Siberian Eskimos, including folktale collections (both in Russian and in original Central Siberian Yupik), and VERY DETAILED grammar books too. Eskimos languages are typologically very similar to Hungarian (relatedness is not proven, it may be mere accident or only areal influence). As for their culture, Siberian Eskimos also have their own special variant of shamanism (influenced by Chukchi).

[ungazik]

I can't hear well neither English nor Russian, my comprehension is weak. I admit I can't comprehend languages well, except for Hungarian.

[ungazik]

As I am listening to the video, I hear it as ``камлание'' (kamlanie). Links dissapear from Youtube comments, but by Google, these sites seem worth for loooking for details:

* ``'During the course of a special ritual called kamlanie (shaman's act), the shaman would enter a state of trance''

* ``КАМЛАНИЕ - священный шаманский ритуал, во время которого шаманы''

[ungazik]

I forgot the most important thing: the word ``kamlanie'' is indeed a Russian word (``камлание''), and it means ``shamanic séance''. Deatils can be read about the Russian verb ``камлать'' in Викисловарь (the Russian version of Wiktionary)

[Kipchakbeg]

aaggg aggg ullaaa :D

[Patollus]

damn, i fell like i'm back to school.

[BPmmxFX]

You should see the entire 30 min. movie - talking 'bout back to school... I just excerpted the juicy 2.5 min. stuff for this trailer...

[Patollus]

i mean, how are they looking, what are they doing( those sounds and dancing) is nothing compare to what we were doing in class =)

[fIRBb]

They are uralic people

[savetheworldpagan]

tHE EUROPEANS dont have the same kind of spirituality you can find in the east and asia