SPOiLER: How a Third Political Party Could Win

[stokepogue]

Interesting insights in this video.

[chad071981]

3 people voted obama for change.

[DanielLionheart1]

This is REALLY GOOD! I wish I could make everyone I know (who cares enough to vote) sit down and watch this!

[jlmealer]

This is about MEALER2012 throw in a dot com and check out the plans...

[goremau]

Ayn Rand is also a VERY dangerous philosopher. Corrupting modern conservative politics like leavened bread....

[goremau]

There really is no third party in the US because the party machines keep subsuming the counter movements. notice the Republicans twisting and reshaping themselves in 2010 to attempt to subsume the Tea Party movement....the same will happen with the current 'Occupy' movement and the Democrats. Whenever I see the John Brich Society i'm left to think...ah, just another front group from the established right. More subsumable dupes....this movie will be ignored on the journey down....

[OriginalIntentDoc]

Get the 2-hr DVD at SPOILERUSA dot org

[OriginalIntentDoc]

> Good stuff!!! I think our boy Ron Paul's got a real chance especially considering he's sitting around 13% now; . . .

Ron Paul consistently gets about 12% from the "Pat Buchanan conservatives" in the GOP. If Dr. Paul goes Indy, he will pick up 15% from Independents who don't vote for GOP. All he now needs is 11% from the disenchanted Democrats and this gives him 38% -- enough to win the Presidency in a 3-man race.

[OriginalIntentDoc]

>Some good information, but WAY too much religious bias.

So I cut out the "religious bias" and our Indy candidate doesn't get 38% of the vote? What do you want: no bias or no third party candiate?



[OriginalIntentDoc]

>The part that really got me thinking was the political spectrum portion.

If people don't understand the REAL political Specturn vs. the HORSESHIT POLITICALLY CORRECT political spectrum we have been brainwashed with -- they will never understand the movie or the problem.

[OriginalIntentDoc]

>I think this video overestimates the intelligence of the US population.

It's wasn't made for the US population. It was made for the opinion leaders in the population that matter.

>...Americans are too stupid to vote for anything other than what they are used to. The entitlement mentality ...

That's why you have to get a EQUAL tax RATE for everyone. Only when ALL are suffering EQUALLY, will ALL will demand a smaller government.

[OriginalIntentDoc]

>this would be perfect if there werent so many religious undertones.

Like it or not, the majority of the voters in the U.S. are Christians. So you propose running an Atheist or Scientologist?

[OriginalIntentDoc]

>Isn't the president actually elected by the electoral college and not by popular vote? How will a 3rd party get the electoral votes needed?

If you watch SPOILER carefully you will see that the goals are three-fold: 1) Get a Ron Paul-like Indy candidate up on the Presidential debate state; 2) Find a running mate that is electible in 2016; 3) Get the Indy running mate candidate elected; 4) Formalize it all by filing a Third Party.

[OriginalIntentDoc]

>You can eliminate the fed and tne irs in a single day.

You are crazy. I wish we COULD eliminate it in a day, but you simply can't. We evolved into this position since 1913. Advice like this is what has marginalized all third party efforts. Rewatch the film, but this time with your eyes open.

[OriginalIntentDoc]

>This video is a joke. They don't talk about killing the federal reserve scam. Don't pay attention. Run Paul got it right. No fed no irs.

You obviously missed the entire point of SPOILER. Wake up or watch it again.

[OriginalIntentDoc]

You are another ignorant idiot when it comes to Pat Buchanan. Obviously you have read none of his many books and know nothing legitimate about him. Crawl back under your rock.

[rrought317]

Pat Buchanan... are you kidding me? I'm not even going to waist 2hrs of my time. More deception from religion, who inspired you to manufacture this junk, The Vatican? Look, enough with Sun worship crap because that's what Christianity is and it's been robbing free people's open minds and the ability to critically think for thousands of years. Adolph Hitler was appointed by the Vatican, just follow the symbol called the Iron Cross, which is the highest declaration of the Nazi military.

[wcprocom]

@rrought317 I think maybe instead of trying to belittle or destroy people's beliefs with an intellectual hammer, why don't you recognize that Christians make up an important part of the Ron Paul movement, and work WITH them to accomplish your motives.

[Skyathaniel]

9:23

lol @ Ben Bernake + the background music haha

[shadowcii]

limited government is our heritage.

[jewishcrimenetwork]

This video is a joke. They don't talk about killing the federal reserve scam.

Don't pay attention.

Run Paul got it right. No fed no irs.

See the video in 911missinglinks(com) for the truth.

[ovician]

@jewishcrimenetwork What are you talking about? There was a 15 segment where they discussed how disastrous Woodrow Wilson's Federal Reserve Act was to the American economy.

[jewishcrimenetwork]

@ovician Yes. But they don't talk about killing it. Ron Paul got it right. You can eliminate the fed and tne irs in a single day. Next day government print its own money (as Kennedy did) and (a much better) business as usual. I think this video distorts reality and its goal might be that people don't vote Ron Paul.

Don't get me wrong. Ron Paul is a mason, he doesn't expose 911 as a mossad job, etc. But what he says makes sense.

[slugga06]

Great documentary. The only question i have is: Isn't the president actually elected by the electoral college and not by popular vote? How will a 3rd party get the electoral votes needed? RP12

[duxinarowe0]

Freaking brilliant!! I think that we have nothing to lose but our chains. If we can simply stop the theft of resources and get out of entangling alliances we could just be an example to the world.

[LiberalJerseyman]

>2011

>Voting

I seriously hope you guys don't do this.

[timfrost08]

Don't get caught up with the small number of religious references. I'm agnostic but religion in a society has often served to define a clear moral code. It might be that commiting murder is implicitly known morality, however these things do need to be defined and Christianity like it or not has historically done so in America. Unforunately the institution of the church, not the 10 Commandmants, like all organizations is prone to corruption and tyrrany which ties in nicely with this film.

[anoldcrow]

this would be perfect if there werent so many religious undertones.

[DadoPennsylvania]

the only thing that calms me down is that there is a lot more of us then THEM (people vs government)...Thing that makes me nervous is , by the time people turn around and say HAAAY to the government there could be a lot less of us due to hunger.

[hickey023]

Ron Paul Baby



[sfbay420]

This film gives you something to think about indeed!

Wait, why wasn't Tom Woods in this?

[ValisFan3]

I think this video overestimates the intelligence of the US population. It will be very difficult for a third party to win, if not impossible, simply because too many Americans are too stupid to vote for anything other than what they are used to. The entitlement mentality will only get worse as America is flooded by the third world.

[BettyFordGalaxy]

Fantastic! Brilliant! This movie was really well made, and I learned a lot from it. The part that really got me thinking was the political spectrum portion. I too, believed fascism to be far right, and never even considered anarchy in the equation. I was a Ross Perot supporter and now am a Ron Paul supporter.

[Starclopsotube]

Some good information, but WAY too much religious bias.

[rivieracar1992]

It says music by Jack Rooney. Can you be more specific? What's the song title and on what CD? Thanks.

[btdarcy911]

Butress!

[clev9980]

Just 1 more reason to vote for RON PAUL 4 PRESIDENT 2012.

[jamaalfridge]

I cannot believe I just sat through the whole thing... Good stuff!!! I think our boy Ron Paul's got a real chance especially considering he's sitting around 13% now; if he reaches a consistent, solid 15%, he's likely to be in the debates (assuming he goes third party), and then it's ON. The Paul campaign will still need to go hard on the GOP primaries to get the message out and make alot of noise with Perry and Romney, but more important (strategically) is to get that solid 15%.

[eleganz]

forget 2016, Ron Paul can win NOW in 2012, why wait another 4 more years when we can do this....NOW.

[eggdescrambler]

Thx OriginalIntentDoc for the input. Note that I know a lot of atheist that are strong libertarian, one in particular that felt put aside by the reference to God here.

I was relaying the comment of my friend. I don't personally mind that much but I found it to be true that it seems to exclude atheists from the small gvt views. (or imply they are for big gvt). That's just it, nothing else. Thanks for the video

[timfrost08]

This is brilliant....... So much wisdom and intellectual insight its almost unreal. I never thought I would see a film or read a book that encapsulates and elucidates so clearly the problems in present day America, and the rest of the world for that matter. it fully explains interesting points I've heard made by individuals such as Marc Faber, Jim Rogers, Ron Paul and a few others that I greatly respect.

Please can everyone share with as many people as possible! This needs to be seen!

[jklewis54]

No founder was an atheist . . . most were, admittedly, theists, and a few maybe deist -- but no atheist. Read our history. When they spoke against "religion" they were referring to "denominationalism".

[OriginalIntentDoc]

Remember, many of those that currently dominate the cultural Marxist-infested major studios in Hollywood and the New York mainstream media, detest Christianity and slight it at every opportunity. Check out an earlier film I made called "CULTURAL MARXISM -- The Corruption of America." -- James Jaeger

[euro944t]

@OriginalIntentDoc

You see film "Paul"

attack on Christ and 2nd Amend, even has $9.99 sale prices everywhere and needless violence and cursing that is unrelated to the script.

[OriginalIntentDoc]

Bear in mind contributors, we in no way are trying to "push Christianity" in SPOILER. It is simply a fact that the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights were greatly influenced by Christian thought. All we are trying to do is provide a proper perspective of the founding philosophies. We also discuss Locke, Adams, Comte, Rousseau and Marx, as influential philosophies. -- James Jaeger (CONT...)

[eggdescrambler]

Very good except it is a bit too biased towards religion. I mean, the documentary tries to sort of imply that atheists are socialists. Not true, in fact some of the founding fathers were actually atheist.

[OriginalIntentDoc]

Eggdescrambler, the political "bias" of SPOILER is to the Libertarian-Conservative. No attempt was made to appeal to either the far Right or the (far) Left. Had we attempted this, we would have either DOUBBLED the discussion of Christianity or HALVED it, respectfully. Had we attempted this, we would also have been off-message, i.e., smaller consitutional government, fiscal responsibility, mind-our-own-business military, religions freedom for all. -- James Jaeger

[aubreyfarmer]

No job, no home and no verbal skills and you propose to lecture me. I understand your bitterness, but it appears to me that you are trying to place all of the blame for your sorry state of affairs on someone else. It is always the fault of someone else. Take a little personal responsibility. It is the crony capitalism that has grown up around the Federal Reserve that is the number one problem with our economy.

[OriginalIntentDoc]

Aubrey, to some extent you are correct. We delve into this in one of my earlier films, "CORPORATE FASCISM - The Destruction of the MIddle Class" You might like this one. It's available on DVD at MOVIE PUBS dot Net or on YouTube for free if you can't afford it.

[kralspaces]

A must see! It is a summary to everything I have been studying the last few years.

[OriginalIntentDoc]

Thanks KralSpaces. Appreciated. My earlier films, "FIAT EMPIRE -- Why the Federal Reserve Violates the US Constitution" and "ORIGINAL INTENT -- How the Democratic and Republicam Parties Are Destroying the American Dream" set forth some of the problems. SPOILER attempts to further explain and suggest some remedies. You can get DVDs of all these films at MOVIE PUBS dot Net or watch them on YouTube for free if you can't afford a DVD. -- James Jaeger

[tubeyou9878]

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[tubeyou9878]

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someone-who-wasn't-even-born-i­n-America-elected.Ve-will-take­-them-down.

America-is-going-down.

[tubeyou9878]

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[ilovemymum777]

ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!

[OriginalIntentDoc]

Thanks for the kudos Ilovemymum777. Check out Nelson Hultberg's recent interview regarding SPOILER and his political strategy to get Ron Paul to run on our new independent party, the Conservative American Party. It's at theDailyBell dot com. -- James Jaeger

[silvernail6]

Don't Vote Don't validate this beyond corrupt system.......the next "winner" has already been picked and will be insured by the "voting" system

[vtcpdx]

This video is playschool politics. I don't have a "right" to a job, I have something better. I have a gun, and I will use that gun to blow the fucking heads of off bankers and their politicians when my "right" to put food in my mouth floats away on Zionist NY banker's yacht. So you can take this propaganda and shove it "right" up your ass!

[aubreyfarmer]

We are up the creek without a paddle. If Ron Paul does not get the Republican nomination will he run as an Independent? If so, how about calling the new party the Independent Christian Party. It would be terrific if being a Christian became popular with the younger generation. When I hear about all of the flash mobs and racially motivated assaults I attribute this behavior to programming through television, Hollywood and music. Who do we thank for destruction of the Christian culture?

[vtcpdx]

@aubreyfarmer Really? What is Ron Paul going to do about the massive transfers of wealth that have already occurred? I lost my fucking business, my fucking house, my fucking savings while corporate CEOs and bankers get richer and richer. Ron Paul has not said one word about how he is going to redistribute the wealth that has been stolen from We the People so fuck Ron Paul. Voting won't going to fix anything, it will take revolution and Ron Paul is nothing more than a catharsis for morons.

[RadioFlyffer]

This is a docudrama based on the false reality created and pushed at us by the Jewish Banksters (Illuminati) and their vast criminal network (Sayanim).

FACT: 100 % of the mainstream media corporations are owned or controlled by the Jews.

FACT: the Federal Reserve is controlled by 8 Jewish families, with the Rothschild crime family holding the majority steak.

FACT: there is no such thing as Democrats and Republicans...there is only the Jews and THEIR New World Order!

[yonskii]

@RadioFlyffer

Seriously, religion is a distraction. Being a "Jew" has nothing to do with it. Besides, I see far more Christians in positions of power than Jews.

[aubreyfarmer]

Congress is full of traitors. Controlled by the Zionists and the global money lenders. Nationalize the Federal Reserve and seize the assets of all the crooked bastards that have undermined our democracy. In an earlier time, before we were turned into sheep, these crooks would be tarred and feathered and ran out of town on a rail. What has happened to our ability to get mad enough to do something about it. Maybe the Jews are right when they call us the Goyim or cattle.

[OriginalIntentDoc]

Aubrey, the solution is NOT to nationalize the Fed. Sound money is backed by specie and originates as commodity money in the free market. Read Murray Rothbard's book, WHAT HAS GOVERNMENT DONE TO OUR MONEY and THE CASE FOR A 100 PERCENT GOLD DOLLAR, both available at misis dot org. -- James Jaeger

[celticcelticwger066]

Elections are Zionist erections：　rigged computers are used as their whores to make them feel good when cumming.

[Richtar244]

You are stupid like the US negro population. 99 % of US population is brain dead. The jew swines own the media,congress,senate so what a fuck you talking about. MORON !!!

[OriginalIntentDoc]

@Richtar244 Go easy on the Jews Richtar. It's true, they are having their day in the sun with Hollywood, but don't forget how badly Edison's Trust and the Eastern Establishment treated them when all they wanted to do was develop a new industry. -- James Jaeger

[OriginalIntentDoc]

@Richtar244 Go easy on the Jews Richtar. It's true, they are having their day in the sun with Hollywood, but don't forget how badly Edison's Trust and the Eastern Establishment treated them when all they wanted to do was develop a new industry. -- James Jaeger

[OriginalIntentDoc]

Hi inibo. I was surprised when I interviewed John McManus of the John Birch Society as I had been raised on the media's view of them. What specifically surprised me is the fact that JBS is calling for a smaller Consitutional government: a no, no in Hollywood and with other cultural Marxists. - James Jaeger

[inibo]

All in all I give it a B+, maybe an A-.

[inibo]

This has an interesting twist on the standard JBS "political spectrum." In the past they referred to anarchy as simply and intermediate stage on the way to totalitarianism. They seem to have softened that stance a bit. That along with the face time for Austrian economics makes me think they are reaching for the Lew Rockwell crowd.

[TheMagicman1971]

Very well done.

[OriginalIntentDoc]

@TheMagicman1971 Thanks Magicman. Appreciated. -- James Jaeger

[inibo]

This looks like it might be juicy. More thoughts when I'm finished watching it.