Ol' Man Mose- Eddy Duchin- The First Song to use 'Fu**'- 1938

[PissOnYoFacePete]

Fuck Fuck FUCK IT!!!! BAWCOCK!!!!



[SiveyBeats]

Wow they were Windows error sounds as percussion back in 1938!

[Richard1952Tele]

2:02 CHICKEN MUTATION

[tallyankeegal]

My Dad lived from 1917-1982 I grew up in the 60's and 70's he sing some of these songs including this one and occasionally use the expletive and I totally thought he had made this up until I found it here on youtube a few years ago. So the old times were a little wilder than I had imagined! LOL

[talshiarr]

@tallyankeegal Things didn't obnoxiously prudish again until the late 40's. Then it went over the cliff into insanity in the 50's with not being able to mention being pregnant or show two people in the same bed.

[paulvernon100]

Lucille Bogan' "Shave 'em Dry" preceeded this by 11 years; get it right or go home

[BSMitchell1]

Until this I thought Death or Glory by The Clash was the first. I still can't tell if that's what she actually says though. If that's not what they actually say does anybody know what the first would be then?

[brkngbnjmn14]

Anyone else heard Lil Wayne/Nicki Minaj's song "Knockout"? When Nicki's rapping, she says "Aww fuck it! Give me that damn bucket!" Eddy Duchin is the originator. rhyming fuck it and bucket. Kudos to the 20th century.

[mcshulad]

is this where the phrase 'fuck a doodle doo' originated?

[Anubis454545]

One of my favourite records.

Patricia Norman did a great job vocalizing this song, definitely the best rendition. I can't say I ever thought the F-word was used in place of "bucket" though. Never occurred to me...

[olegario39]

WOW. never knew people were explicit back then

[SafeAzFuck]

Shes saying Bucket, buck, buck, bucket! not fuck it! LOL

[davidjegan23]

@SafeAzFuck

listen when she says, Ahh Fuck It.

if u cant then follow the lyrics

(We believe) He kicked the bucket,

(We believe) Yeah man, buck-buck-bucket,

(We believe) He kicked the bucket and ol' man mose is dead,

(We believe) Ahh, fuck it!

(We believe) Buck-buck-bucket,

(We believe) He kicked the bucket and ol' man mose is dead.

[MrDmc44111]

who was the vocalist? She was excellent.

[thepilotboy]

This is what I find when I look up

"Fuck" on Wikepidia ^_^. Oh, and why the fuck did she turn into a chicken?

[JoeRocksP]

@thepilotboy wondered the same thing.

[kingoliver45]

This was actually written by Zilner Randolph

[ronabbey1940]

I at one time had the original recording and recall playing it over and over again to determine if the scandalous "f" was correct and if you listen closely you can year the band laughing. Yes, she did indeed go over the top - and in those days it was something else.

[GooglFascists]

I'm sorry but "McGurk Effect" or no in the first instance you clearly

hear "he kicked the BUCKET- BUCK BUCK BUCKET".

But in the second round the fact the singer drawls:

"AWWWWW *UCK IT!" and then "*uck *uck *uck it!" you don't hear the

"B". Whether its the microphone or the singer deliberately doing it,

(which is what I think), it comes out "*UCK" even if you listen closely.

Any rate its HILARIOUS and people needed a laugh back in 1938

JUST AS THEY DO NOW in THIS DEPRESSION.

[athabascka]

this is so awesome

[trapedd]

FUCK

[TheWye]

if you guys are arguing based on the information from wikipedia, you may want to see wikipedia's article on Eddy Duchin too, particularly on this line:

"Duchin's 1938 release of the Louis Armstrong song "Ol' Man Mose" (Brunswick Records 8155) with vocal by Patricia Norman caused a minor scandal at the time with the lyric "bucket" being heard as "fuck it."

And it is also interesting to note that these parts on wikipedia doesn't quote any particular external sources too.

[luke666808g]

@TheWye I'm certain she says fuck it, I'm not hearing it wrong.

[TheWye]

@luke666808g My previous comment is on another page and was written 3 months ago. Is it really important that you actually replied to it?

[luke666808g]

@TheWye yes, I only reply to stuff that is super important

[budmangt2]

@TheWye But then Duchin was ask again! did she say bucket or fuck it? and Duchin gave a grin and said ah fuck it!

[KookyCanuck]

Oops, whoever transferred the audio accidentally  recorded windows alert sounds at 0:47 & 1:53. Ding!

[HomerWinslow]

You will hear what ever you want to hear while listening to this song. The phenomenon is called the McGurk Effect and you can learn more about it here:

by searching above for the McGurk Effect.

Watch the whole thing. It works only with F's and B's.

[kamocean]

@HomerWinslow the mcgurk effect has been responsible for some misunderstandings in the past, but not in this case. this song caused a huge controversy in 1938, which led to this song sold over 170,000 copies, during the great depression! people didn't spend their money on anything they wanted, so it had to be real. if it was simply a case of the mcgurk effect, it never would have sold that many copies. old time america didn't react lightly to vulgarity in public settings or forums.

[HomerWinslow]

@kamocean

Public consumption doesn't dictate the McGurk Effect. Who's to say what the singer was saying? You can't lay it off on that. That's just silly and assumptive.

[BradDeLorenzo]

1:10 "Awwww fuck it. Fuck fuck FUCK IT!"

[drfrisby]

it really sounds like fuck to me in the chorus

[adriandecleir]

someone should remake this song, catchy chorus!

[wowza191]

It's bucket..not F*ck it.

[GBEHNCP]

@wowza191 Nope. It's pretty clear. Turn it up if you have to.

You can also look it up on Wikipedia.

[wowza191]

@GBEHNCP : Yes, because Wikipedia is reliable lol. She is speaking about finding a man dead. I'm guessing he hanged himself, so he stands on a bucket which his head is in the rope, he kicks the bucket so he falls down and sufficates. That makes more sense than " he kicked the F**ck it " lol

[GBEHNCP]

@wowza191 The reputable book, "The F-Word" by Jesse Sheidlower which tracks the origin of the word, citing this song as the earliest use in popular music.

Furthermore, it's not "He kicked the f**ck it," it would be "He kicked the bucket, yea man, f**ck f**ck f**ck it," where it would be an expression of dismay and resignedness. It could also be "buck, buck, bucket."

So to say that it's not the f-word because it wouldn't make sense isn't a strong argument.

Matter of opinion, at this point.

[wowza191]

@GBEHNCP : Exactly, she didn't say f**k it!

[GBEHNCP]

@wowza191 That's not what I said. I said she could've been saying either.

[wowza191]

@GBEHNCP : ah feck off :) 

[lazrpo]

@GBEHNCP well, it doesn't make sense that she would say "AWWWWWWWWWWW BUCKET" either.

[wowza191]

She does a great Chicken Impression : 2:00 lol

[4MaryAnna]

I like Betty Hutton's version better.

[Greg98233]

After hearing this a number of times, sometimes it sounds like Patricia's using the Big F, and other plays, I can't tell. Well, in the end, I don't give a F, as this song is terrific!! Thanks for posting!!

[pianoplaylist]

Do you REEEEELY think this was the first time this age-old word was used in a song? It might be the first time it was recorded on a gramophone record, but I would seriously doubt if it hadn't been sung many times in many a speakeasy.

[MegaCocoa12]

lol XD

[JakesNotDrinking]

Oh shutup.

[lukeday94]

@alemelech You clearly dont fucking know me id be one of the first to sign up and i will as soon as i finish school anyway and where the fuck did you get all this " life owes me " shit where the hell did i say life sucks or anything along those lines.

[lukeday94]

@alemelech hey man im a wuss am i im not the one complaining about the f word over the radio. i couldnt care less what my parents think of me and no my gen probably couldnt handle anything above afganistan and i admit the majority obsessed with nanotechnoledgy but still were doing alot fucking better then your stuck up classy generation.

[wowza191]

@lukeday94 :Listen, I don't wan't to start any trouble but it was a lot harder in his their generation. They didn't have it so easy so don't start judging and critizing people, he is simply a man, not the whole generation and their cons. But also he shouldn't of critzized this generation, BUT you have to admit, they had more class in those days and these days SEX sales. Popstars dress up if mini-skirts and back then it was all very neat and FULL of class. But he shouldn't of said what he said.

[lukeday94]

@wowza191 yeah whatever this was like 6 months ago anyway. Nah he probably didnt have it so easy but the gen before him had it even harder he shouldnt critisize my gen just cuz we have it easy thats the way it is things get easier as time goes on. but what is class? who cares how neat they looked then? i would prefer popstars in miniskirts to class anyday.

[wowza191]

@lukeday94 : Nobody cares..that's what I believe is the problem. Obviously your a boy and well, of course you would prefer popstars in miniskirts, but I don't. Jeez, i was defently born the wrong era, but yeah I was just stating my point, we can leave it now :)

[CreepingDeathX]

Eddy Duchin was the band leader in this but the singer was a woman named Patricia Norman.

[lukeday94]

@alemelech get the fuck over yourself "only your generation would do such filthy nonsence" your a fucking fagot i supose you think that women and blacks shouldnt vote too ay id much rather live now then live in ur shitty fuking proper ass time period atleast were geting through with out starting 2 world wars.

[MVillani1985]

@alemelech This was snuck in to make it the first song from this time period to be widely broadcast with that word. However, if you believe that in those days everything was good and innocent, look up Party Records as well as Lucille Bogan's "Shave 'Em Dry". There is even a recording from 1892 called "Not For Mixed Company" with a bunch of dirty jokes on it. The difference is, it wasn't as widely accessible back then, so six year olds weren't singing "The Dirty Boogie".

[Xmare1]

fuc fuck FUCK IT!! kinda an imature for the first use haha

[DmichielO]

There was no "F" used in the making of this song. Mr. Duchin would never have allowed this for one moment. Anyone who knows anything about Eddid Duchin knows that he would never have authorized its use.

[DmichielO]

I love this version of "Old Man Mose"......I hear it on satellite all the time in the car...and I just love it...I think the 30's and 40's were good music times.

[craighlancaster]

The songs controversial lyrics occur at 0:51 and 1:41. The second occurrence at 1:41 is clearer. Even after repeated listening, the sounds are often heard differently. With careful listening, it is clear that the vocalist, Patricia Norman, sings "bucket," not the obscenity that is often heard. The song could not have been released in 1938 if it contained an obcenity. Patricia Norman recorded Vocalion 4547 Pluckin on a Golden Harp" after the success of "Ol' Man Mose."

[JamalDOA]

@craighlancaster It's pretty clear that she is saying "fuck".

[SupremeKingDan]

Good song itself, but I just WISH he hadn't said that... lol

[vinylsingleman]

Hard to believe that elegant Eddy Duchin, of all people, would be the first to have a hit with the f word.

[RationalDischarge]

Actually, there's an even earlier song that uses the F-word several times, along with several other colorful expletives, called "Shave 'Em Dry" by Lucille Bogan. It's probably one of the filthiest songs you'll ever hear, old OR new.

[MVillani1985]

@RationalDischarge True, but it wasn't widely broadcast. The earliest example that I ever found of a recording with smut on it was an 1892 recording simply titled "Not For Mixed Company" full of dirty jokes.

[woobi101]

for those that don't hear it, it is at about 1:08 to 1:15 she clearly says "-we believe- Awwh fuck it!" then continues in the to buck-buck-bucket =) its only in there once though

[isilder]

The squaking sound at 2:10 alludes to animals having a "fight"... you know

[AnotherIdiot]

1:53 Random Windows XP sound?

[IMZEECATMAN]

@AnotherIdiot lol when i heard it i thought it was my computer...

[goal2XL]

@AnotherIdiot  good ear!

[Brekky57]

"Shave 'em Dry" by Lucille Bogan has the f word in it several times and it came out in 1935, apparently.

[codeaires]

Thank you Wikipedia for re-directing me to this XD

[Xcrementa]

@codeaires ditto!!!

[MrMemories]

It sounds to me like she's saying the "F-word," but I just can't see that being put on a record and becoming popular without being banned, especially in 1938.

[Brekky57]

No, it actually is the f-word. Just type it up online.

[JeffSayYes]

@MrMemories I think before WWI, america wasn't to sensitive

[MrMemories]

I remember my late grandmother, who was a teenager in 1938 when this song was popular, once told me about going to a high school dance and there was this one kid that had been dancing with numerous "wallflowers." She said that it was soon notived that he had an erection and word was getting around, so the band played "Ol' Man Mose" in honor of the unfortunate event and she said everyone was laughing, but the teachers and chapperones never caught on.

[MVillani1985]

Actually, the first RELEASED song to use "fuck" (in a somewhat hidden way), there was a recording of "Shave 'Em Dry" from 1935 by Lucille Bogan which is explicity filthy through and through but was more of a version only used in nightclubs at the time.

[PopRokkProductions]

*ponders* I think it's bucket...it just the way she transitions between the "wooooh" and "bucket". She wasn't pronouncing her "B" as clearly because of her mouth shape. At least I hope so...my radio show is doing a tribute to him next week (Somewhere In Time Radio), we'll ask the audience and see what kind of response we get!

[MissReige]

It's 'fuck it'. Clear as day.

[bebopalulababy]

I beg to differ it is definitely "bucket". The other word wouldn't have fitted in with the theme of the song.

[noyouaintgettingit]

when she does the chicken sound its kind of annoying

[EffinPiss]

I think Shave 'Em Dry by Lucille Bogan may be the first explicit recording, actually.. not sure though. It's great.

[domitype]

I agree on "Bucket," but try the version of "Everybody's Truckin'" by Smokey Woods (The Houston Hipster.)

BTW, There is a 1946 George Pal Puppetoon "Jasper in a Jam" that uses "Ol' Man Mose" with Charlie Barnet and his Orchestra & Peggy Lee.

[Peatman]

there's "aah fuck it" in between all the buckets. clear as day.

[RaananVolesPianist]

Ranks right up there with "Peppermint Stick," "My Girl's Pussy," "I Want a Bow-Legged Woman," "I Had My Ukelele In My Hand," "Some Girls," Fluffy Hunter's "Walking Blues" and other off-color classics! And let's not forget "Push, Push, in the Bush!"

[TheMemoryHog]

yep, I'll post them too!! Hilarious songs....

Cheers,

TheMemoryHog

[madisonlb40]

my ding-a-ling