Papal Mass DC 17 April 2008- Clip4 Communion

[dacatholicbandorgan]

Uggg-Did the Pope at least set out a kneeler for his communicants?

[MckyJcksn]

I have two very close friends. One is Episcopalian, the other is Lutheran. Both sing in their church choirs. Both of them reguarly get to sing all kinds of beautiful Gregorian chant (yes, in Latin). Don't people realize that this solemnity appeals more to our Protestant brethren than our efforts to imitate other musical styles? Given this fact, I'm wondering why we gave up on chant, particularly when Vatican II urged that it be given "pride of place" in the Sacred Liturgy.

[MckyJcksn]

I think my eardrums just blew out.

[shippingforecast]

Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do!

[jlandles]

What a cacophony of noise! I'm not a Roman Catholic but I feel my ears being assaulted by this antithesis of liturigical music, and I feel for the Pontiff. I'm very much "high church" - this is degenerative indeed. An offense to the Pope, to the people, and to history - all in the name of some P.R. effort at multiculturalism.

[MckyJcksn]

Again, I find it so interesting that our Protestant brethren have overall done a much better job of preserving the Church's beautiful musical tradition than the Church from which this tradition originated! Heck, even the choir at my very secular public school reguarly sings Gregorian chant, but we're lucky if we hear it once a year at my parish during Mass.

[dacatholicbandorgan]

Its almost ironic that the Protestants have done better with revernace in Church and preserving Gregorian Chant of the Church than the Church herself.

[Jitpring]

What a disaster. It must have been a great trial for the Holy Father, as going to the NO mass is for me M-Sa. On Sunday I'm able to go to a traditional latin mass.

[MckyJcksn]

It's interesting that the NO on the weekdays is a trial for you, since I'm assuming we're talking about spoken Masses. Personally, I think there's something to be said for the "noble simplicity" of the Ordinary Form spoken in English. However, if you're going to go the "high church" route, nothing beats Latin chant, whether you're using the Ordinary or Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite.

[Jitpring]

The "noble simplicity" you mention is in fact the infusion into the Mass of that rank beast known as Protestantism.

Read Joseph Ratzinger's The Spirit of the Liturgy. Also Klaus Gamber's Reform of the Roman Liturgy: Its Problems and Background. Along with Martin Mosebach's The Heresy of Formlessness. Finally, google for this:

The Case for the Latin Mass by Dietrich von Hildebrand

[dacatholicbandorgan]

I feel the same.

[Catholicteen15]

This is terrible! A High Solemn Papal Mass and you've got the choir singing some southern baptist style hymn. And all in the name of pointing out how "multicultural" and "diverse" we are! I see this not only as a very poor choice in music, but as a personal disregard of the pope's wishes. The Pope has made his liturgical views VERY clear MANY times before. Yet Latin was sparse and Gregorian chant was near none. Hopefully the Mass at St. Patrick's and Yankee Stadium will be better.

[mikeybill]

What were they thinking - oh, they weren't...

[AnbaKyrillos]

Archbishop Wuerl ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing this performance to be part of a papal mass, and for that matter, any bishop who has not rebuked him for allowing the American Church to look like Heretics.

[AthensBoy87]

What a travesty. What an assault on the Holy Mass.

[bedwere]

Holy Father, please forgive them but make them stop!

[MckyJcksn]

Amen, brother!

[AD7QQ]

Very meditative.........NOT