I just read an article in a magazine about an officer using a corbon in his .45acp and there were problems with penetration. I don't own a .45 (yet), but I'll skip the corbon for sure.
@armenianesh818 Plus pressure. There is higher pressures in a plus P round than a regular one. This will of course make a bullet hit harder. There is +P and from what i understand there is +P+ that the law enforcement used to use. Like the would run .38 special +P+ in a 357 magnum revolver. .38 special +P+ is still lower pressures than 357 mag. So the frame and other parts can in fact handle it.
@CreazioniPinnacolo under penetration and jacket seperation are the main causes of handgun bullet failure. Id go with a 165 - 180 grain (im assuming your talking about a .40 cal). the heavier bullets also have less "snap" and more of a "push" in the recoil, which makes follow up shots faster Lighter bullets have higher velocity and energy which looks good on paper, but they bleed that energy more quickly, like when hitting bone, and might not have enough energy to do work deeper in the body.
@kilog55 Base what? I merely posted an observation. If you came to any conclusions from this, it's your doing, not mine.
Feel free to read the description in the video that clearly states that this isn't a scientific test, merely an observation. Thanks for clicking, and have a nice day! :)
k just a quick question.Now the HST is bonded i am guessing & that is why it didnt break up.But it seems to me that the bullet breaking up and shooting fragments into sumones insides would make it hard for the doc's to stop all the internal bleeding after u shoot sumone.So why is the "BONDED" part such a big deal?im just wondering i mean it seems like most of the btter made bullets today are bonded im just wondering why&why did corbon decide not to go bonded?
@arkangel8419 the corbon is for penetration it is technically a "safe" round for home defense which is why it fragments, one shot of each round is not a good test to show anything actually if he showed him walking up and removing the slugs from each shot it would hold more water....pun intended
I bought 2 boxes of the HST+P at a gun show for $20/box of 50, EXCELLENT ammo! I never did any tests with it, but could tell it was a REALLY good bullet design and nice power too, can't beat it for the price. I blew up a bowling pin with 1 round, pretty impressive,lol. I usually use Cor-bon for self defense, but after watching your video I just may switch to using the HST +P ammo, just wish they made it in .40 and 9mm too.
I will hve to disagree on the bowling pin part..... This round will NOT dismantle a bowling pin with one round. During a pin match, I watched pins absorb round after round of this stuff, in addition to full-house .44 mag soft point loads. It is impressive, but not magical. Thanks for the apporval of the video though! And if you can get that deal on a regular basis, stock up. that's the cheapest I have ever seen this ammo go for.
I had bowling pins that were hollow, but I've had the ones you're talking about and we used to shoot 'em with .375 H&H solids, and they took it like a champ, I can't believe how tough those things are. But, the hollow ones I had DID get completely destroyed with one round of the HST +P's, no bs. But if I could get more boxes of that stuff, I'd of bought 'em out,lol, cheaper than junk FMJ's.
@stradawhovious Damn really? I just picked up the same box of 50 for 21$ all day at my local gunshop/shooting range.... guess I'm just lucky? They have speer fmj for the range...9.50 for 50, I thought that was a steal also for practice at the range :) AWESOME video too, thannks for posting! thumbs up!
it depends on what u want some like super exspansion without penatration but some like deep penatration with a lil less exspansion its what ever the shooter like try speer gold dot if u want
I love what speer gold dot does. But this looks like it is more bang for the buck. You pay nearly (if not more) a dollar per round of speer, yeah you get nice penetration and it stops mother fuckers in their tracks. But this is almost as cheap as some target ammo! and it is more damaging from everything I've seen!
Okay I'm tired of redneck shooting water jugs..... Why don't you shoot your leg and see which bullet goes deeper.... now that would me interesting
mauro12345402 4 months ago
I just read an article in a magazine about an officer using a corbon in his .45acp and there were problems with penetration. I don't own a .45 (yet), but I'll skip the corbon for sure.
Vernonu9 9 months ago
+P means Over Pressured which means more gun powder than normal. Great Video, I carry a Glock 23 loaded with Federal 180 grain HST's.
40RLH 10 months ago
what does +P stand for?
armenianesh818 10 months ago
@armenianesh818 Plus pressure. There is higher pressures in a plus P round than a regular one. This will of course make a bullet hit harder. There is +P and from what i understand there is +P+ that the law enforcement used to use. Like the would run .38 special +P+ in a 357 magnum revolver. .38 special +P+ is still lower pressures than 357 mag. So the frame and other parts can in fact handle it.
crazydiesellover 8 months ago
corbon isn't in the same league as HST. corbon ammo sux the sweat off a dead man's balls.
champop1911 10 months ago
they are to heavy to use for personal defense anyways. use 135s. they get the job done plenty without having to worry about over penetration
CreazioniPinnacolo 11 months ago
@CreazioniPinnacolo under penetration and jacket seperation are the main causes of handgun bullet failure. Id go with a 165 - 180 grain (im assuming your talking about a .40 cal). the heavier bullets also have less "snap" and more of a "push" in the recoil, which makes follow up shots faster Lighter bullets have higher velocity and energy which looks good on paper, but they bleed that energy more quickly, like when hitting bone, and might not have enough energy to do work deeper in the body.
FlyinZX10R 4 months ago
so you base this off of 1 round....wow
kilog55 1 year ago
@kilog55 Base what? I merely posted an observation. If you came to any conclusions from this, it's your doing, not mine.
Feel free to read the description in the video that clearly states that this isn't a scientific test, merely an observation. Thanks for clicking, and have a nice day! :)
stradawhovious 1 year ago 11
@stradawhovious
excessive fragmentation....just cause the bonded round held together doesnt make it more efficient
kilog55 1 year ago
k just a quick question.Now the HST is bonded i am guessing & that is why it didnt break up.But it seems to me that the bullet breaking up and shooting fragments into sumones insides would make it hard for the doc's to stop all the internal bleeding after u shoot sumone.So why is the "BONDED" part such a big deal?im just wondering i mean it seems like most of the btter made bullets today are bonded im just wondering why&why did corbon decide not to go bonded?
arkangel8419 1 year ago
@arkangel8419 the corbon is for penetration it is technically a "safe" round for home defense which is why it fragments, one shot of each round is not a good test to show anything actually if he showed him walking up and removing the slugs from each shot it would hold more water....pun intended
kilog55 1 year ago
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champop1911 10 months ago
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champop1911 10 months ago
Nice test!
andreleger2001 2 years ago
I bought 2 boxes of the HST+P at a gun show for $20/box of 50, EXCELLENT ammo! I never did any tests with it, but could tell it was a REALLY good bullet design and nice power too, can't beat it for the price. I blew up a bowling pin with 1 round, pretty impressive,lol. I usually use Cor-bon for self defense, but after watching your video I just may switch to using the HST +P ammo, just wish they made it in .40 and 9mm too.
theMozambiquedrill 2 years ago
I will hve to disagree on the bowling pin part..... This round will NOT dismantle a bowling pin with one round. During a pin match, I watched pins absorb round after round of this stuff, in addition to full-house .44 mag soft point loads. It is impressive, but not magical. Thanks for the apporval of the video though! And if you can get that deal on a regular basis, stock up. that's the cheapest I have ever seen this ammo go for.
stradawhovious 2 years ago
I had bowling pins that were hollow, but I've had the ones you're talking about and we used to shoot 'em with .375 H&H solids, and they took it like a champ, I can't believe how tough those things are. But, the hollow ones I had DID get completely destroyed with one round of the HST +P's, no bs. But if I could get more boxes of that stuff, I'd of bought 'em out,lol, cheaper than junk FMJ's.
theMozambiquedrill 2 years ago
@stradawhovious Damn really? I just picked up the same box of 50 for 21$ all day at my local gunshop/shooting range.... guess I'm just lucky? They have speer fmj for the range...9.50 for 50, I thought that was a steal also for practice at the range :) AWESOME video too, thannks for posting! thumbs up!
gcboyallday 8 months ago
it depends on what u want some like super exspansion without penatration but some like deep penatration with a lil less exspansion its what ever the shooter like try speer gold dot if u want
unbeatableshooter 2 years ago
@theMozambiquedrill they have it in .40 and 9. sgammo usually has it, though the 45 acp sells VERY fast.
FlyinZX10R 4 months ago
good work my friend!
GLOCKSTEROC 2 years ago
I love what speer gold dot does. But this looks like it is more bang for the buck. You pay nearly (if not more) a dollar per round of speer, yeah you get nice penetration and it stops mother fuckers in their tracks. But this is almost as cheap as some target ammo! and it is more damaging from everything I've seen!
hoboboxerjoe 2 years ago
Nice video, but it's so hard to fine some cor-bon now a days. Well here in Mississippi anyways.
5 stars
fidelescoiphone 2 years ago
Ohhhh men this Federal is a real one piece of art..
Reminds me of the Winchester Black Talons ands the Famous Flower Shape.
Great video man!
fruchttragend 2 years ago