if you guys took high school chemistry in nowadays... then you'd know this isnt a myth, a buddy of mine did this in in his backyard, had a bit of a mishap with the wiring and no holes to let the hydrogen escape, and BOOM! good show, and it proves that this can work, ive seen it. and HHO is just what they call it, 2H0 is what it is. plus, if your skeptical of some dude in his garage using AMERICAN enginuity, theres somthing wrong with you.
Clearly this person has nothing to back up their product other than a bogus testimonial about saving money. This is a sales scam. I'm marking this as spam.
The reason everyone uses DC is because it is cheap and dirty. To use AC it needs to be DC polarized to keep a DC potential between the plates. To produce a DC polarized AC signal you require the knowledge of AM and FM theory. Then you need to build the complex piece of equipment. I admit it's fun to play around with HHO using DC but it is kind of pointless because it does not get you anywhere. In a way it is kind of lazy.
Because the high frequency AC was just a scam using inadequate measurement techniques to make it look like there was less electrical energy used than in fact there was.
And there is no such thing as HHO. He's making 2H2 + O2 from 2H2O
Oh sweet jesus. Why do all these groudbreaking scientists always "do what I saw someone else do"? Following someone else is just fine, but to follow that with some rhetoric about "HHO" and the complex science behind it... is just astonishing to say the least. Keep up the good work! One day we might drive our cars off pure ignorance, but for now we have to settle for the ignorant science of magic and HHO.
I put a couple wires in a 2ltr bottle, plugged them into 12v DC and had added salt to the water in the 2ltr bottle. Tons of little bubbles sparkled all over the place but nothing combustible was formed. What am I doing wrong? are these the wrong "bubbles" I am seeing?
that sounds dangerous good job you had the wrong bubbles, DON'T IGNITE HYDROGEN BUBBLES IN AN ENCLOSED CONTAINER! Just watch more vid clips, and learn about combustion, then elecrtolysis, then please try not to blow yourself up. (dont use salt as it releases poisonious clorine, Bicarbonate of Soda is safe enough)
All they are making is Hydrogen and Oxygen gas... First discovered something like 150 years ago! Nothing special and I wouldn't have a problem, that is, until they start making claims about the magic HHO gas and over unity.... damn retards.
Oh you sceptic, get off your high horse and embrace the ignorance that is HHO, not to be confused with H20 which has been around circa 6 Billion years.
HHO is created by complex scientific process which mere mortals cannot comprehend (unless they paid attention in high school science).
By channeling copious amounts of electricity they break the very bonds of water releasing the wonder that is HHO - Will this replace petrol, Coal or Nuclear? No - it will be ignited to impress morons...
Not quite. It's simply splitting water into a form useable as a fuel. the energy from the generator isn't used to create new matter. it's releasing the already stored enery in already existing matter. this means that the law of conservation of energy doesn't apply. also, it's not perpetual motion because it doesn't run independent of an external energy source.
Not quite. It's simply splitting water into a form useable as a fuel. the energy from the generator isn't used to create new matter. it's releasing the already stored enery in already existing matter.
That is correct. Hoe much enrgy is used to "release" the "stored" energy?
How much energy is "released"?
Now divide one by the other to calculate the gain or the loss.
Boyntonstu is right, if your using less energy to split the water into base elements then the amount of energy created by the combining the generated Hydrogen+Oxygen then congratulations you have not only invented perpetual motion but also broken the 1st law of thermodynamics. If so jump on a plane to stokholm the Nobel Prize in physics awaits you.
These experiments are fun but are not a solution to the energy problem, People claim it works in cars but they are wrong
Listen guys- This is not perpetual motion because it is using fuel. You are refining or extracting fuel much like gasoline. In an isolated case such as internal combustion engine you will see gas mileage increases because you are adding Hydrogen (Fuel) and using energy that the inefficient ICE is putting off by way of the alternator. In essence you are using energy that would otherwise be wasted to create the Hydrogen Fuel. Keep learning about this technology, it's old but very useful.
xdir, does this imply that the energy cost to refine oil into gas is greater than the energy produced by burning the gas? Foregive me, I'm just learning about this stuff. If the first law of thermdynamics states, "the total energy of a system and its surroundings remains constant", then input equals output. Why then can't HHO systems work in cars? Voltage + H2O = Increased RPM? What other costs/benefits fit into the equation? I'm no scientist, but this seems intriguing if not hopeful.
The energy required to create oil is immense, Oil is created from dead sea creatures who have decomposed over millions of years at incredible pressures.
To create oil artificially would require more energy then that released from burning.
Adding a HHO mix into the the fuel supply will probably increase the power output.
But the electricity required to split the water molecules needs to come from somewhere.
Taking it from the dynamo means more energy needed to turn the dynamo = more revs.
Ok, I can accept that more energy is required than is output in the HHO conversion. However, if I understand correctly, petroleum efficiency is incredibly low. Further, I understand that a car's alternator keeps the battery charged nearly 100% of the time, which suggests the excess can be used to facilitate the HHO process. In essence, it can bump the low efficiency percentage to at least some higher amount. If this is correct, then the introduction of HHO systems into vehicles is positive.
Doesn't the alternator already supply surplus current to the entire system? Wouldn't capturing this excess require no additional fuel? Also, couldn't we capture other leaks in efficiency to provide more electricity to the system? For example, a lot of heat is generated which could be converted into electricity via a Stirling motor/engine.
Clearly there are ways to increase fuel efficiency. Question is, which alternative is the least cost with consideration to environmental impact. Again, I'm still learning about various energy sources, HHO included. While your arguments are clear, xdir, I would need some empirical data to rule out HHO as a viable option. I still don't know enough about this to come to an educated conclusion.
The excess electricity can just about cover the rest of the electronic, devices like AC's consume way more electricity and affect fuel economy.
The HHO method is similar to the more effective Nitro systems. If you can somehow generate the required power to split water at home (via Solar Panels) then move the gasses in cannisters to the car it could be more effective.
Alternators do not supply surplus current to the system. They scale their output to the electrical demand. Adding an HHO generator puts more load on the alternator, which makes the alternator pulley more difficult to turn, meaning the engine has to burn more fuel to turn it. There is a net energy loss through all of these conversions, meaning HHO generators reduce efficiency. Modifications to the O2 and MAP sensor lean out the engine and obscure the uselessness of the HHO generator.
the bonds that make H20 have a lot of energy. it would be possible to remove the bonds and create a new compound that makes that energy accessible. i still don't buy it though, i have heard some myths about it.
But Have you tried it your self? No, so easy to stand back and say it can't be done. Some people are great in school and not very good at life. Good thing we still have some people who are willing to try. Ideas like yours is why America doesn't make anything anymore. Just let someone else make it for us.
Allow me to put an end to the mystery. Watch this new video for ABSOLUTE proof that it is IMPOSSIBLE for HHO to increase miles per gallon. Good stuff.
I bought some plans from hho-hybrid . com $19.95 they seem simple but I think there is more going on than we know... haven't built unit yet but getting it together slowly!!
I made a typo error on my last post, it was supposed to say decreasing the gaps. That's what happens when I try to make comments when I've not had much sleep.
how flammable are those bubbles if you don't use any soda ? and how many of those bubbles do i need to make a car engine go ? and how do you make those bubbles flow in a steady stream ? how much can you compress those bubbles before they explode ?
where can i buy the cookie cutters and the container from becouse mine is buckled and its crap and it is similer to yours but yours is better sorry crapy english hands are really cold lol
bro dont use tap water because it contain a lot of chemical particularly chlorine, use distiled water and baking soda
foxnad 9 months ago
if you really want to run your car on water go to: thegas4free.blogspot,com
jedwhelchel 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Find out what PMW is and how to connect it to you HHO gen.
Don't use salt use baking soda salt makes Chlorine.
HHO gas floats up to the ceiling in a house do project outside.
Use wind power while driving down the road the wind resistance
against the car and a wind turbine connected to the HHO cell.
Search for "simple generator" on YouTube.
davidswin 3 years ago
if you guys took high school chemistry in nowadays... then you'd know this isnt a myth, a buddy of mine did this in in his backyard, had a bit of a mishap with the wiring and no holes to let the hydrogen escape, and BOOM! good show, and it proves that this can work, ive seen it. and HHO is just what they call it, 2H0 is what it is. plus, if your skeptical of some dude in his garage using AMERICAN enginuity, theres somthing wrong with you.
MaxTv02 3 years ago
stfu shill
shindak666 3 years ago
What he has produced is a tiny quantity of H2 and O2. There is such thing as HHO.
The chemical equation goes as follows 2H2O > 2H2 + O2
The minute quantities produced will not run a car engine !
pasoundman 3 years ago
us garage scientists are the best lol
antimoron08 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Convert your car to run on HHO (hydrogen/oxygen mix), get the details here and start saving cash at the pump. Pays for itself in the first week!
ecozone(dot)net(dot)nz
awakekiwi 3 years ago
Clearly this person has nothing to back up their product other than a bogus testimonial about saving money. This is a sales scam. I'm marking this as spam.
adomth3rice 3 years ago
decent vid, but theres a problem w/ tubular designs:
the surface area of each 'plate' is smaller as you head to the center.., this means that HHO production is limiated to that of the smallest tube..
darkrashan 3 years ago
And why is this titled HHO? Has the HHO movement just dropped the whole high frequency AC, and just gotten lazy and gone with plain old DC? Insane.
Philldapill85 3 years ago
The reason everyone uses DC is because it is cheap and dirty. To use AC it needs to be DC polarized to keep a DC potential between the plates. To produce a DC polarized AC signal you require the knowledge of AM and FM theory. Then you need to build the complex piece of equipment. I admit it's fun to play around with HHO using DC but it is kind of pointless because it does not get you anywhere. In a way it is kind of lazy.
alfabrovo 3 years ago
Because the high frequency AC was just a scam using inadequate measurement techniques to make it look like there was less electrical energy used than in fact there was.
And there is no such thing as HHO. He's making 2H2 + O2 from 2H2O
pasoundman 3 years ago
Oh sweet jesus. Why do all these groudbreaking scientists always "do what I saw someone else do"? Following someone else is just fine, but to follow that with some rhetoric about "HHO" and the complex science behind it... is just astonishing to say the least. Keep up the good work! One day we might drive our cars off pure ignorance, but for now we have to settle for the ignorant science of magic and HHO.
Philldapill85 3 years ago
pfft you guys just discovered this? Iranians have been doing this for years!
TalkOfTheInternet 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I have the electronics for any fuel cell at ebay item 250269239662
amillionemails 3 years ago
I put a couple wires in a 2ltr bottle, plugged them into 12v DC and had added salt to the water in the 2ltr bottle. Tons of little bubbles sparkled all over the place but nothing combustible was formed. What am I doing wrong? are these the wrong "bubbles" I am seeing?
Shakeitupyes 3 years ago
that sounds dangerous good job you had the wrong bubbles, DON'T IGNITE HYDROGEN BUBBLES IN AN ENCLOSED CONTAINER! Just watch more vid clips, and learn about combustion, then elecrtolysis, then please try not to blow yourself up. (dont use salt as it releases poisonious clorine, Bicarbonate of Soda is safe enough)
Hope that helps and BE CAREFUL.
werethefoxhat 3 years ago
All they are making is Hydrogen and Oxygen gas... First discovered something like 150 years ago! Nothing special and I wouldn't have a problem, that is, until they start making claims about the magic HHO gas and over unity.... damn retards.
Philldapill85 3 years ago
Oh you sceptic, get off your high horse and embrace the ignorance that is HHO, not to be confused with H20 which has been around circa 6 Billion years.
HHO is created by complex scientific process which mere mortals cannot comprehend (unless they paid attention in high school science).
By channeling copious amounts of electricity they break the very bonds of water releasing the wonder that is HHO - Will this replace petrol, Coal or Nuclear? No - it will be ignited to impress morons...
xdir 3 years ago
LMFAO
For half a second I wondered if you were serious or not until the end. Very well said!
Philldapill85 3 years ago
LOL HHO = H2 + O and is a Gas mixture, not a Molecule
reas83 3 years ago
To you and to all HHO generator enthusiast/sellers:
How many Amps/Watts does your generator use?
My guess, 2 Amps at 14 Bolts or 28 Watts.
Remember 746 Watts is needed to produce 1HP (ONE HORSEPOWER).
Does the HHO output produce more Watts when burned in the engine than the Watts consumed in your HHO generator?
If the answer is yes, congratulations! You have just invented perpetual motion!
Boyntonstu 3 years ago
Not quite. It's simply splitting water into a form useable as a fuel. the energy from the generator isn't used to create new matter. it's releasing the already stored enery in already existing matter. this means that the law of conservation of energy doesn't apply. also, it's not perpetual motion because it doesn't run independent of an external energy source.
kevownage 3 years ago
Not quite. It's simply splitting water into a form useable as a fuel. the energy from the generator isn't used to create new matter. it's releasing the already stored enery in already existing matter.
That is correct. Hoe much enrgy is used to "release" the "stored" energy?
How much energy is "released"?
Now divide one by the other to calculate the gain or the loss.
Boyntonstu 3 years ago
All I know is I was getting 20 mpg and now I get 30 mpg and all I added were water, soda and my cars battery.
You can complain about overunity... I just improved my mileage by 50%!
It wasn't hard, just had to STFU and do some work.
Peace.
nanderson65 3 years ago
Boyntonstu is right, if your using less energy to split the water into base elements then the amount of energy created by the combining the generated Hydrogen+Oxygen then congratulations you have not only invented perpetual motion but also broken the 1st law of thermodynamics. If so jump on a plane to stokholm the Nobel Prize in physics awaits you.
These experiments are fun but are not a solution to the energy problem, People claim it works in cars but they are wrong
xdir 3 years ago 2
Listen guys- This is not perpetual motion because it is using fuel. You are refining or extracting fuel much like gasoline. In an isolated case such as internal combustion engine you will see gas mileage increases because you are adding Hydrogen (Fuel) and using energy that the inefficient ICE is putting off by way of the alternator. In essence you are using energy that would otherwise be wasted to create the Hydrogen Fuel. Keep learning about this technology, it's old but very useful.
tapasblank 3 years ago
xdir, does this imply that the energy cost to refine oil into gas is greater than the energy produced by burning the gas? Foregive me, I'm just learning about this stuff. If the first law of thermdynamics states, "the total energy of a system and its surroundings remains constant", then input equals output. Why then can't HHO systems work in cars? Voltage + H2O = Increased RPM? What other costs/benefits fit into the equation? I'm no scientist, but this seems intriguing if not hopeful.
Drydoc2 3 years ago
The energy required to create oil is immense, Oil is created from dead sea creatures who have decomposed over millions of years at incredible pressures.
To create oil artificially would require more energy then that released from burning.
Adding a HHO mix into the the fuel supply will probably increase the power output.
But the electricity required to split the water molecules needs to come from somewhere.
Taking it from the dynamo means more energy needed to turn the dynamo = more revs.
xdir 3 years ago
Ok, I can accept that more energy is required than is output in the HHO conversion. However, if I understand correctly, petroleum efficiency is incredibly low. Further, I understand that a car's alternator keeps the battery charged nearly 100% of the time, which suggests the excess can be used to facilitate the HHO process. In essence, it can bump the low efficiency percentage to at least some higher amount. If this is correct, then the introduction of HHO systems into vehicles is positive.
Drydoc2 3 years ago
The primary function of the alternator is to generate electricity to power the battery to in turn fire the spark plugs.
You are already diverting electricity for basic secondary functions like lights, windshield wiper & air con.
Adding a third layer of high energy consumption to power HHO would require more gas.
xdir 3 years ago
Doesn't the alternator already supply surplus current to the entire system? Wouldn't capturing this excess require no additional fuel? Also, couldn't we capture other leaks in efficiency to provide more electricity to the system? For example, a lot of heat is generated which could be converted into electricity via a Stirling motor/engine.
Drydoc2 3 years ago
Clearly there are ways to increase fuel efficiency. Question is, which alternative is the least cost with consideration to environmental impact. Again, I'm still learning about various energy sources, HHO included. While your arguments are clear, xdir, I would need some empirical data to rule out HHO as a viable option. I still don't know enough about this to come to an educated conclusion.
Drydoc2 3 years ago
Currently the best method is buy a Honda, keep the tires at optimum pressure, make sure its serviced regularly & drive sensibly.
You would get as good a performance as any claimed by HHO proponents.
xdir 3 years ago 2
The excess electricity can just about cover the rest of the electronic, devices like AC's consume way more electricity and affect fuel economy.
The HHO method is similar to the more effective Nitro systems. If you can somehow generate the required power to split water at home (via Solar Panels) then move the gasses in cannisters to the car it could be more effective.
xdir 3 years ago
Alternators do not supply surplus current to the system. They scale their output to the electrical demand. Adding an HHO generator puts more load on the alternator, which makes the alternator pulley more difficult to turn, meaning the engine has to burn more fuel to turn it. There is a net energy loss through all of these conversions, meaning HHO generators reduce efficiency. Modifications to the O2 and MAP sensor lean out the engine and obscure the uselessness of the HHO generator.
adomth3rice 3 years ago
the bonds that make H20 have a lot of energy. it would be possible to remove the bonds and create a new compound that makes that energy accessible. i still don't buy it though, i have heard some myths about it.
sulimon510 3 years ago
But Have you tried it your self? No, so easy to stand back and say it can't be done. Some people are great in school and not very good at life. Good thing we still have some people who are willing to try. Ideas like yours is why America doesn't make anything anymore. Just let someone else make it for us.
bmeade8 2 years ago
i'm glad if people try it out, and if it works, that is even better. i just think this video is a scam to get people to buy a product.
sulimon510 2 years ago
no scam. I've done hho
atmancloud 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Allow me to put an end to the mystery. Watch this new video for ABSOLUTE proof that it is IMPOSSIBLE for HHO to increase miles per gallon. Good stuff.
watch?v=5G9DAmt_jLk
EnergySupply2008 2 years ago
250266822883 ebay, electronics for any HHO system , free shipping.
amillionemails 3 years ago
eliminategas(dotcom
amillionemails 3 years ago
try getting over 1lt a minute gas production under 20 amp /12 volt ....thats the key ...making bubbles is easy ....
amen2233 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I bought some plans from hho-hybrid . com $19.95 they seem simple but I think there is more going on than we know... haven't built unit yet but getting it together slowly!!
blahvidblah 3 years ago
I made a typo error on my last post, it was supposed to say decreasing the gaps. That's what happens when I try to make comments when I've not had much sleep.
mastergroundscrew 3 years ago
Good work... Increasing the gaps makes a good result, have a look at my mini HHO assembly on my channel.
mastergroundscrew 3 years ago
i mad a HHO generator and got loads of bubbles so please could u look at the 2 i did thanks
twirlywirly55 4 years ago
how flammable are those bubbles if you don't use any soda ? and how many of those bubbles do i need to make a car engine go ? and how do you make those bubbles flow in a steady stream ? how much can you compress those bubbles before they explode ?
phnxrzn2007 4 years ago
They should be just as flammable. It's still hydrogen you're making. My guess is that the NaHCO3 just helps the reaction along.
jaimesthesaint 3 years ago
Guess what a big chemistry lesson to everyone HHO=HOH=H20
narcoti 4 years ago
No shit. That's why it burns so well. It's made from water and so it has the perfect H2:O2 ratio to ignite to form water again.
jaimesthesaint 3 years ago
i had a look on the site and i cant find them do u have a link thanks
pitbike2006 4 years ago
what for cookie dough cutters no, don't know their proper name either, I just walked in and looked for stuff in the kitchen bit.
werethefoxhat 4 years ago
how did u connect the wires to your cell what is the name of them things thanks
pitbike2006 4 years ago
what things ?
I just drilled a small hole at the edge of each cutter, slightly bigger then the wire, fed it through and twisted round.
I used tape on this video, but now I use sillicone.
werethefoxhat 4 years ago
ow kk thanks do u have a link where to get them cookie cutters
pitbike2006 4 years ago
where can i buy the cookie cutters and the container from becouse mine is buckled and its crap and it is similer to yours but yours is better sorry crapy english hands are really cold lol
pitbike2006 4 years ago
see below
werethefoxhat 4 years ago
if u have a look at my videos i have a video on my new canister that is 16cm wide by 17cm tall is the cell wider that 16cm or smaller or the same
pitbike2006 4 years ago
My tub is 5 1/2 Inches about 140mm in diameter
and 6 1/2 Inches about 165mm tall
werethefoxhat 4 years ago
sorry i dont have a lot of monney at the moment but what about £12 thats with P&P
pitbike2006 4 years ago
Sainsburys
Cookie dough cutters £3.99
Plastic tub £1.99
You could get 2 for the price of 1
werethefoxhat 4 years ago
nice cell would u sell it
pitbike2006 4 years ago
yes make me an offer
werethefoxhat 4 years ago