Ricky Gervais - Animals - In the dark!

[mangoman999999]

That means he created the heaven and the earth... IN THE DARK?!

Legend.

[Wantgamegetmilkful]

His Stand up is nothing like as good as Extras or The Office

[BroWhatever]

I need some planets, urrrrrrm.

[dubj630]

Contrary to popular belief, science and Christianity are not mutually exclusive. I believe science is a way to study and look at in awe, God's world. Science makes my Christian beliefs stronger and I question and search for answers in both. And when it comes down to it, science takes a leap of faith. It simply can't answer everything. And many people, such as myself and many others, aren't out there testing and experimenting theories, therefore we put FAITH in scientists that they are right.

[MWcrazyhorse]

no you don't. many people confuse faith with trust. when you go to a doctor you do so because you trust him else you would go to a faith healer.

science does not disprove god. it has no intention of doing so. on its way of discovery of astronomy, physics and biology it does make the bible look like the work of a dim witted sheep herder. however yea there may be some form of existence one could call god like, somewhere in the 11th dimension. we may never know.

[tylr322]

it can answer more than the fukn bible.

[nordhorny]

@dubj630 "And when it comes down to it, science takes a leap of faith. It simply can't answer everything."

And religion answers NOTHING. Science and all its complexities are very challenging, we are making excellent progress in our understanding of it.

[cloin22]

Don't compare science with religion, with science if you don't understand something, you look for real evidence to support a theory, (still even then it's just a theory). With religion if you don't understand something??? i guess you make up what you want to believe, or ask a priest and get their made up version.

But what is there not to understand about that verse, clearly it means if someone blasphemes your God, then they must die!

Otherwise it wouldn't say it.

[dubj630]

I don't claim to understand everything in the Bible; anyone who says they can is lying. But I also don't write off the Bible just because I have questions. In fact the questions make me want to delve more into it and seek out answers. Take Science for example, if we don't understand something in Science, we don't write it off and say, "It must not be true!" We actively seek out the answer, that's how Science advances. Faith should be viewed in the same way.

[jimbob224]

You don't understand the scientific method.

What answers do we get from the bible?

Talking Donkeys - Numbers 22:28

You're god made evil - Isaiah 45:7

You're god is big on rape - Number 31:17-18

I could go on (for a very, very long time).

[hiddeninromance]

@jimbob224

Science has given us a few humdingers too, that are only identifiable through the benefit of retrospect. I'd love to see 1000 years into the future and how the generations laugh at our grasp of science, that we masquerade around as facts. The fact of the matter is, nothing is certain we don't know why we are here or how the world came to be. Mutually agreeable or not, science and religion are two theories which require the same pattern of trust or faith to be placed into them.

[Shad0wack]

Religion is not a theory.

A theory requires some sort of evidence.

[hiddeninromance]

@Shad0wack

I'm undecided still myself, but I guess those with faith find the cosmos itself existence for a creator - along the lines of the [presumed] impossibility of infinite regression requiring an Aristotelian "Prime Mover, or perhaps simply on a level not dissimilar to Paley's watch analogy.

[CJBestie]

@Shad0wack definetly not bud a theory is an idea that tries to explain evidence.

[jd558]

@hiddeninromance

The difference is, at least science tries to make progress. Religion on the other hand would rather hold us back; as it has tried to do for millennia.

There is no open debate in religious organisations on the evidence of one theory or another. It trusts the infallible writings of certain individuals.

Also, many things declared by scientists aren't stated as 100% correct, but as the most probable conclusion instead.

[dubj630]

Cloin22, you are doing exactly what you are accusing me of doing, picking-and-choosing which verses you want to accept. Interesting, I am reading through the Old Testament for the first time, the whole way through, and I just finished Leviticus and came across that verse about stoning blasphemers, and I have questions about it. But faith is about questioning, but also about SEEKING answers to those questions, not just questioning without even trying to find the answer.

[cloin22]

I have family who are devout Christians, they are very peaceful and very loving, they have also read the bible countless times, when they finish it, they just start again. However they would never kill someone who blasphemes the Lords name, nor would they kill any one preaching of another religion...

Why is this?

Maybe because the bible contradicts itself by saying kill your enemies, and then love your enemies. So you get to chose which you'd prefer?

[nat1hopkins]

wow u must have a boring family. that is like watching a film over and over and over and over. as u can probably tell im a athiest like ricky.

[cloin22]

Also in Deuteronomy. Chapter 13. It says of other prophets or dreamers who say "lets us follow other Gods" they must be put to death.

That is the instructions of your God!

My point is this.

I think the answer is yes, we can call that crazy abortion clinic bomber a Christian, the suicide bomber a Muslim and the Israeli solder a Jew.

They have read the same holy books as their pacified members of there religion, but they have chosen to follow all of it.

[cloin22]

Hmmm ok, have you read the old testament at all? Cos your only quoting the new testament, and in the old testament there is quite a bit of merciless killing.

IF... And this is a big if.

If the bible is the word of the "real" God, then surely you must pay heed to every passage.

You can't just pick and chose what you want to except.

And it clearly states in Leviticus. Chapter 24 verse 16. "Anyone who blasphemes the name of the Lord must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him"

[dubj630]

The Bible has something to say about them: "Ye shall know them (people) by their fruit," Matthew 7:20. In other words, just because some one claims to be one faith or another, doesn't mean they are. The "Crusaders", judging by their fruit, we NOT Christians, even if they called themselves such. "But I say to you who hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you," Luke 6:27. The Bible doesn't say go slaughter your enemy mercilessly.

[dubj630]

You and I both know cloin22 that people manipulate religion on a day-to-day basis. Every day some so-called "Muslim" kills himself and others with a bomb, in the name of Allah; can we really call him Muslim? Or an Israeli soldier destroys a home with a family of Palestinians inside; can we really call him Jewish? Some nutjob calling himself a Christian blows up an abortion clinic; is he a Christian? The answer is no, in all of these cases. Some people manipulate religion for their own gain.

[cloin22]

The Crusades were still devout Christians though, and many of those killing, would of done so in the Lords name. But i'm glad you know that religion was used as a tool, and with this in mind, i would say that that is all it has ever been, Just a tool to control people individually, and to control societies, sometimes in good ways and sometimes bad.

There is no evidence of an almighty God, just superstition!

Of course i expect you to disagree and i won't change your mind.

So good luck with that

[cloin22]

The Midianites however, did believe in many Gods, that is why they were killed, so there is an argument saying the bible does say 'kill non Christians' but i'm not saying it does, it's just how you look at it.

And it is true that people don't know their history too well, like you thought that Nazi Germany weren't Godless. But i wouldn't criticize you, myself or anyone else, for not knowing all of history, there's too much of it! I'm sure i could teach you some history as you could teach me.

[cloin22]

Ok, either you're purposefully side stepping, or you're genuinely misunderstanding, i'll assume the latter... When i saw that someone had written that God doesn't encourage or demand violence, i had to write something cos i know that not to be true. And if someone who doesn't know the bible at all had read that, then they might of believed it! So i opened the bible at a random page, and i said just the first one that i saw. There really are so many though, but randomness chose that one.

[dubj630]

So cloin22, what you are telling me is that verse you showed me demands that Christians of today go out and kill Midianites? There are no Midianites today first of all. Second of all, you gave me one specific incident in which people were killed at God's request. Where does it command Christians to kill non-Christians? I'm still waiting... and I guess I'll wait forever because you simply won't find it.

[dubj630]

Here's what's wrong with our society, people don't know their history. TheCrusades was just as much about religion as "The War on Terror" is about spreading freedom and democracy, religion was the tool used to unite the kingdoms of Europe to "crusade", just like democracy is the tool today being used to justify American imperialism all over the world. Come cloin22, don't be ignorant, learn your history better.

[cloin22]

Also! Some of the worst events in history have happened from atheists? What about the crusades invading and slaughtering for 200 years in the name of "the Lord". All the wars America, the Uk, all the middle east, in fact, almost every war to date has been lead by politicians who claim to be one religion or another.

And, Hitler was raised a Catholic and often spoke about god justifying his actions!

But... You shouldn't need religion to make you peaceful.

That i believe is very weak.

[cloin22]

No! What we need to remember, is your last comment that claimed there was no verses in the bible that encourages or demands violence in the name of god. Which you were proved wrong, cos there's loads of em.

Now it's clear that you actually have read the bible, so that makes you a liar... Thou shall not lie?

"Do not lie.

Do not deceive one another" Leviticus

If your god really exists then wouldn't he be pretty mad at you now?

But i wouldn't worry about it.

He probably doesn't exist :)

[dubj630]

One way to look at this is that Gervais is reading the Bible to a captive audience who have paid good money to see him. At least people are hearing the Truth, even if it is in Ricky Gervais's painfully sardonic tone. "You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32. Who knows maybe these words will sink into Gervais' desperately searching mind one day; God-willing.

[dubj630]

We all need to remember, it is under societies that totally rejected God that some of the worst events in history have happened: Nazi Germany, Communist Russia, and Communist China. These were societies that systematically squashed religion and saw the state as God. That is the logical end-point of Atheism. Which ideology is the real threat? Atheists are on the wrong side of history.

[cloin22]

dubj630 are you joking? It is full of violence and death.

Numbers. Chapter 31. Verse 1.

The Lord said to Moses "Take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites. After that, you will be gathered to your people."

So Moses said to the people, "Arm some of your men to go to war against the Midianites and carry out the Lords vengeance on them"

Verse 7.

They fought against Midian, as the Lord commanded Moses, and killed every man.

There is of course many many verses like this and worse

[dubj630]

Evolagenda, find one verse in the Bible that encourages, or demands, doing violence in the name of God... let me save you the time, you won't find one.

[jimbob224]

1 Samuel 15:2-3

Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

Is just one of many.

[dubj630]

For being such a confident Atheist, Gervais, must see God as some kind of threat seeing as he did a whole comedy tour trying to disprove that there is a God. Interesting, if Atheists don't believe in God, why are they always out there going on and on about him. I don't believe in aliens, but I'm not spending my days/career trying to disprove aliens.

[evolagenda]

if a child had a gun, found the trigger, then starting shooting poeople, I'm guessing you get the analogy, religion is dangerous, god *is* a threat, the enitre concept is rediculous, and in this day 'n age an intelectual disgrace, atheists do not care what you believe anymore, we do not want to help, we will simply make comedy routines satirizing with a humours contempt the idiocy of human egotisms apex, why? Because to us, it's just that fucking obvious, like how a child, should not have a gun

[jimbob224]

Because the concept of god/gods is so easy to take the piss out of.

If you don't want people to laugh at your beliefs, you shouldn't have such silly beliefs.

[ComingSoon1984]

LOL! Hilarious!

But what makes me slightly sad is that there are many people who are over the age of 10 and actually believe bull shit

[VlogsAreForFagz]

this is the only funny scene hes done

[miike12345]

He could rip your thumbs off, thatd be funny

[celtssoxpats0702]

hahah i love how he said "IN THE DARK!!!!!!"

[merrisunny56man]

haha, total atheist

[kinnane4]

'Bit dark he sorted that out...' lol

[SCAB07]

he's in GTA IV people!

[AWOTFurside]

This was THE FUNNIEST!!!!!!

[kissmuh]

LOL WELL FUNNY

[JackDatBoi]

SOOOOOOOO FUNNY