SFIII: 3rd Strike - AC-Salyer's How To Master Ken's Kara Shoryuken

[hismit]

This technique should be renamed Kara Deshiken!

[MrKingT88]

picture me kara cancelling

[rainbowpool07]

like if this song make you want to get intimate with a girl

[rainbowpool07]

whats this song?

[kennykamson]

so hard to execute , kara-cancel

[jazzytaye]

@TheShend ggreat video . I know the music is 2Pac's picture me rollin, but what version is this?

[ironsfam10468]

what instrumental is this?

[AgrivatedKillah]

@ironsfam10468  Tupac - Picture me rolling

[guilhermewolfman]

I can do it, but just in the corner nowhere else

[Shotolicious]

@guilhermewolfman In the corner you don't have to kara it..

[guilhermewolfman]

that´s why it´s the only place I can do it

[KingKnucks]

@Shotolicious You have to Kara it on specific characters in the corner, IE Ibuki and the twins.

[ShinOnigashima]

AC SALYER OLOLOLOLOLOL

[mchief117]

yess tupac

[humansareevil100]

it's just speed and timing , as simple as that...I can do it on my laptop keyboard...so nothing hard about it.

[williamlai31518]

This is hands down the best tutorial for Ken's kara dp on youtube!

I LOVE AC-Slayer's videos.

He presents the technique in a simple and concise way. He reveals the tricks.

"Holding diagonal down" is the KEY.

THANK YOU

Also, 2pac instrumtental = 5 stars!

[ai2006b]

The problem about this isn't even just the kara itself. Its timing it. You have a very small window of opportunity to actually do the kara shoryu for it to connect.

[ManicWolfBoy]

This is difficult to execute on a pad T__T

[HadesHatredEdge]

Really? I'm playing on a PS2 pad and can do it 9/10 times.

[ManicWolfBoy]

I'm normally an arcade player. I can do it on my stick, but I always have trouble with pads. My fingers are very... idk grippy lol. So I can't slide on the D-Pad for fluid control.

[AgentSpinhead]

respek

[djdeivl]

u can make that with lp shoryuken 2times..

[r3ddrag0nx]

in middle of screen not in the corner

[r3ddrag0nx]

so will this work: if u mp,hp,l srk, kara l srk?

[DELICIOUSTOASTEDSUB]

only on chun and makoto if you do mp hp

[travelscrabbler]

=3 I learned how to do this last night, it's so easy!!! XD I was freakin' high too! HAHAHAHAHA

[MomentsReprive]

Confused! =[

[supremebeing87]

Hit confirm?

[MetaKnight0]

i.e. Ken can combo low short, low short, SA3

many people just go on autopilot and go through the motion no matter what

but to hitconfirm means to actively watch the other player, and only do the super follow up if you see the other player get hit by low short, low short. if they blocked it, and you're watching for the hit, then you won't accidentally waste your super.

this concept applies to just about combo out there.

[akumazilla]

wow this an old vid! but very informative. thanks!

[pcsxdc]

Lame attempt at remake of Picture me Rollin. Listen to the Pac version

[ShinShoushi]

it's the instrumental you idiot.

[selfselfself]

Does anybody know how to select that colour for Ken? The one with the white bleached hair?

[xRichtardx]

Lp+mk+hp.

[ThePredster]

anyone know the song in the background is?

[rgustore]

picture me rollin by tupac jr its an instrumental

[ThePredster]

thank you

[CactosS]

i did that by instinc when i first play the game

[shiken]

you kara cancelled by instinct? you probably don't know exactly what's going on in this video

you can do 2x shoryuken without kara cancelling as well if you get the anti-air one early enough to link a second one with some characters, that's probably what you did.

[DevinHades]

You're talking rubbish. And by the way, its instinct.

[PapaLeGrand]

this isnt hard at all. i dono what ur talkin about with cancelling and shit i can just do two normal shoryukens and get it. its just that it has to be small punch shoryuken otherwise recovery time is too much and it wont work. another good combo people should know, which almost nobody seems to use except for me is m.punch h.punch s.punch.shoryuken and immediately after EX h.punch.shoryuken. its very hard to get the timing for that right, you only have a split second to get it but it can be done.

[justin2273]

two short shoryukens can only be linked WITHOUT kara'ing if it's done in the corner (doesn't work on all characters) It can also be linked WITHOUT kara'ing if you shoryu the opponent when he's airborn.

If the opponent is NOT in the corner, then the only way to double shoryu from standing is to kara-shoryu

[bl4ck0p]

works midscreen without kara on some chars, q, necro and elena i think (i dont really use ken). maybe others.

also you have to kara it in corner vs some chars i believe.

[elfirrepins]

Ahh ok... so that's why i couldn't get to work.

Thanks TheShend and associates.

[Niceguyz101]

This video is awesome n the 2pac song makes it even great nice job

[custer12220]

lol

[perereca]

this can be done in a playstation control?

i've been trying but no success

[dumbjackass123]

yeah its easy

[prnzokoshiro]

shou-uppa!!! Double!!!

[AgentSpinhead]

lol snk reference

[XxbestofthebestxX]

Yuri

[AgentSpinhead]

......lol yeah i know XD

[Toomnyusernae]

Question everybody, does the double shoryuken work on everyone? I never knew there was a kara involved, I just thought it was insane timing or something. I found it was really easy to do on Q but everyone else moved too far away. It also seems to work fine on Gill with no kara canceling. You can even string in a medium dragon punch after the jab one in the corner_^)

[ZhangHe2369]

I think you have a problem karaing the low roundhouse... need to get that down pat. Practice going from jap dp to just low roundhouse, then try karaing it. After a while you should be able to do it once in a while.

[adamc637]

What does hit-confirm mean?

[StupidIsAsHumanDoes]

Basically it means it can be canceled/combo(yes I understand cancels and combos are different.) into another move. So the Shoryuken will hit-confirm into Shoryu-Reppa. This example uses Ken, obviously.

[polarity55]

actually it means that there's enough time to see if the move hits and cancel/link into another move if it does, but do nothing if it doesn't, so you're safe either way.

[StupidIsAsHumanDoes]

How does that differ at all from what I just said? Unless you were reiterating.

[polarity55]

It's not the combo that makes it a hitconfirm, it's the fact that the window to combo it is big enough that you have time to react to the first move hitting. Plenty of combos are not hitconfirms.

[StupidIsAsHumanDoes]

Combo was the best word I could think of for something that links.

[SqrLMaSTeR123]

ac-slayer is my hero

[fatman01923]

I actually don't need to kick when I do kara now on my ps3 controller, On the dpad I do a low punch on the ground after the 1st one and then cancel out the low punch with a kara, its so hard to explain but yeah its cool doing it that way.

[h4l86]

damn, thanks its really fucking hard to do.

Im using a standard ps2 controller. Does that make it more difficult?

[needcollegeloan]

Yes . . . well, from an arcade stick user's perspective.

[alucard33333]

Thanks!!!!

Super helpful video, already in my favs.

[mastadev]

gahh i have a hard time with this...

[bowlofwater]

wow, vid is almost a yr old alrdy....

[proxyix]

thats cool but its hard sometime need some truning ^^

[KKZReset11]

Yep, I agree with ssmaster. Low forward is the better option to pull the Kara off, at least in my experience. I manage to hit the DP 85% of the time now.

[Niceguyz101]

Does anyone kno can u do this in MvC2

[yes4me]

No it is not the same game. There is no such thing as Kara, parry, etc... in MvC2

[UnknownEnemy]

Not necessarily, there's Kara throwing in the Alpha series and even in ST. No reason why it wouldn't exist in MvC2, the only thing you need to understand is there's no reason for karas since supers and specials come out very fast and spacing is hardly an issue since most characters cover the distance very well in MvC2. Plus they stick with classic throwing so it's impossible to kara those.

[polarity55]

there is no kara throwing in ST or the alphas. there are other kara techniques tho

[UnknownEnemy]

You don't even know. You haven't bothered researching. You can kara cancel any normal into special, the only thing is the distance you gain from the normal. Most of the games you don't get that, however gief gets distance in A3 from his kara throw. In ST you kara cancel fierce and strong fireballs with jab/short to shorten recovery times. Plus karacanceling makes it tremendously easier to chain supers in ST.

[MGOissweet1]

Kara-canceling is the ONLY way to chain supers in ST. Also, Gief and R. Mika have kara 360s in A3. I'm not sure if they're actually useful, though.

[ssmasters2k2]

u can do this with mk its alot easier and more responsive its jus mk to dp but u press it like a kara throw one then the other

[kitikri]

I may be wrong but I think that's the tune of 2Pac's "Picture Me Rollin'" from the All Eyez On Me album ;)

[woundsofnine]

Yeah that song is the instrumental to 2Pac's "Picture Me Rollin'" The song is pretty nice too.

[raahmoan]

great video. 5 stars. love ken even more now. the song is awesome, anyone happen to know the name of it by any chance? if not, it's cool.

[absinthe1988]

thnx!

[stretchypants123]

I've noticed that I can DP an opponent twice up against a corner or wall or edge. But that wouldn't really count as a kara DP would it?

[tengiscool]

no its easy to do on a wall, the reason why its called Kara is because it cancels a move to execute a new one.

[stretchypants123]

k, cool, thanks for the explanation, I don't think I'm gonna devote myself into mastering the kara shoryuken anyways, but it's nice to know that you can do cool moves like these anyways. Man... this move is so bad that it should be banned in tournaments (j/k that's what the reward is for being so good with Ken)

[mrlyme]

It may be easier to do it with a joystick but what about a ps2 controller?? Im not getting the kara to connect mid screen but in the corners. What am i doing wrong?

[k04sk]

its pretty hard to do with controllers , my advice to you is just move to a stick , your inputs have to be super smooth and precise on a controller. So u can do it but its take a little longer than with a stick . you could try to preset buttons on the L1 and L2 so you just slide your fingers across . but iono if tournaments let you preset

[mrlyme]

Thanks ill try to preset with L1 and L2. If i can master it on a controller first then it will be a piece of cake with an arcade stick.

[k04sk]

it wont neccessarily be all that easier just because the movement on the stick is way different from a pad , ull just know how to do it on a pad and stick

[novemberaff]

wow i lose... it's the instrumental from "picture me rollin" by tupac

[novemberaff]

what song is this? i've got the kara SRK down... but this song is great

[SheuhX]

So its best i learn how to kara grab first before i learn this i suppose. i've done it once. but i wanna see someone doing it with forward to ja. forwards to jhab sounds a little easier.

[nenadejunde81]

this video was very helpful, thanks for showing us how this technique is performed. i really appreciate it. i gotta practice this maneuver myself, it can come in handy during matches. i'm still a little bit confused as to why it's called 'kara,' but i finally get how it works. thanks TheShend for this video. great music by the way.

[jpedder]

are there any vids similar to this where they show the joy stick of: buffering and patitioning - Urien and Remy to be specific.

Cheers for the clip.. it is practical which is great t^_^>

[tehdankman]

Search YouTube for SFIII 3rd Strike (Anniversary Edition DVD) Tutorial: Urien

It's in Japanese but it helped me visualize how to execute charge partitions.

[jpedder]

cheers :)

[seichusenmakoto]

Search Youtube for Ramza126's Urien tutorial. It does a pretty decent job of trying to break down buffering and partitioning.

[SheuhX]

Yo dude, do you do roundhouse (heavy kick) while you do the first SRK (when ken is in the air)? Or do you do it super fast when he touches the ground?

[soleternity278]

ac slayer here...

You do it before your 2nd SRK.

So after the 1st SRK, you have to do this motion

toward, down, diagonal down (HOLD) , Roundhouse kara into Jab

So make sure you do that kara after the motion and holding diagonal down helps a lot.

good luck

[SheuhX]

wait. Kara means cancel right? So do i cancel th e roundhouse by doing a shoryuken really fast?

[seichusenmakoto]

Kara in japanese means "empty". What you do is input the DP motion, but while holding down/forward, press Roundhouse and then IMMEDIATELY press Jab. The timing is very strict; if you do it any faster, you'll be hitting both buttons at the same time.

[SheuhX]

I can do it in the corner!

[Jago2999]

same

[713nd]

thats not kara'ed then

u can catch shotos, necro, twelve, chun, makoto,

and urien in the corner without kara canceling.

u can't catch Alex and Dudley at all

everyone else u can catch them in the corner with canceling it Q and elena can be caught mid screen without canceling

[samblero]

I've tried at least 30min this and i can't do it. the 2º shoryuken doesn't hit... The another character falls too far, i think...

[nenadejunde81]

the 1st shoryuken has to be the lowest punch..then the other shoryuken can be either or. i think the weakest punch is the only one that can juggle, or from what i've read in tutorials.

[BlackZero98]

Huh, I only thought it was just doing a weak shoryuken, and then landing and using it quickly again.

[SheuhX]

hhaha mee too

[SheuhX]

This song is cool. I don't often like rap but i should make up some funny ass rap shit for this.

[SheuhX]

so many 3rd strike terms i don't understand. what is kara?

[xorxevandyk]

kara is a meaning of empty in Japanese, you only need to cancel the first frames of d.RH to make a suceful Kara Shoryuken.

[MaximusDread]

I get the concept of these advance moves, but it's a pain in the ass to do them on gamepad. I can only get them 85% of the time, and after long play, my thumb reflexes get too tired to input QCFx2 quickly. Analog stick helps, but it cripples my DPM.

I think what I need is one of those 8-way joysticks I've been hearing about.

[SheuhX]

Do you use Ps2 Controller? I do. It seems hard for me to do. I don't really get it though. Why did he do the grab? and how does it effect how you do the shorykuen? and does ken normally crouch when doing the shoryuken? i don't get why he paused and showed him crouching.

[KKZReset11]

Yes they can Kara DP, but the uses are very few compared to Ken's kara dp

[SheuhX]

I don't get it why, he took a fast shot of Ken crouching.

[djchuckdeez]

i think to show he is doing the kara because he is canceling out the down+HK into a shouryuken

[DanielSmith604]

I'm too lazy to test this out myself but can any of the other Shotos do a Kara-SRK? If not, do you know why?

[SheuhX]

kens the best shoto. in the anime he sucks/- .

[DanielSmith604]

That like totally didn't answer my question :P

[flmae46]

no sean is the best shoto

[713nd]

nope

ryu's shoryu goes to high to technically do 2 of them but you can kara cancel it

lets say you pressure someone in the corner with a fierce punch after blockstun you can use a kara skoryu to punish them (its not reliable) ;)

[DanielSmith604]

Thanks :)

[seichusenmakoto]

Technically, you can do a karashoryu with any character that has one. Ken's is the only one you'll ever need to learn, though.

[seichusenmakoto]

Oh, and if you meant if other shotos can land two LP Shoryus like Ken can, then no. Only Ken's LP Shoryu recovers fast enough for him to be able to try a kara-SRK afterwards.

Ryu and Akuma's SRKs recover too slow, and also take into consideration that a karaSRK has a slightly slower startup than a regular one, since you're tacking on the first couple of frames of the move you kara'ed off of.

[SheuhX]

thats what makes ken the best shoto in the game.

[sirehedora]

no, in all seriousness

can this be done on a

controller?

[soleternity278]

Hey sirehedora,

this is Ac-Slayer

I made this video using Mame Plus.  I did it on the Thrustmaster controller. =)

[SheuhX]

yup, i use it too, ps2. just like a curve. right , down, right. of if your on the right side, left, down, left. just slide it on the controller. up and down.

[apextwin]

omg so it was low roundhouse? shit ive been trying standing roundhouse....

[zaijian2009]

too easy

[venom75x]

i use to suck at sf but now i can pull off moves at ease now all i work on is doing combos

[RajmanReturns]

Yehhh this is hard to do...I rarely do it while fightin! I never see anyone doing it in ranbats aswell..so it must be hard! Although Ryan Hart does it alot...guess hes just good ;-p

[KratosGhost]

OMG 3RD STRIKE IS THE BEST GAME EVER XD

[Batou2006]

That's probably because your not skillful enough to execute them.

[Jeanclaudeblanc]

this editing crap xlent

I tried for 2 decades cant land one

[joanlagos]

well this video is part of aniversary collection dvd kara´s cancel:

SFIII 3rd Strike (Anniversary Edition DVD) Tutorial Part 2

1:47

[SFHoang]

i can never land one of these..

[tengiscool]

Teach me how to do it on the actually controller and not the arcade thing. I use ps2.

[ninjanars]

ayo where did you get the beat from? its pretty sick...

[soleternity278]

2pac - picture me rollin'

[RedundantAlgorithm]

FOr the person who went "Hmmm" over the "hit confirm LMK to SA3, news flash: HE WAS BEING SARCASTIC.

[barsx101]

wow, this actually looks like it belongs in the game, unlike every other kara in the game

[IcyCool21]

Thanks dude, although if you had put some of the replays in slow motion to better see what was happening with the joystick would've helped a little, but great video either way. Favorited and 5 stars.

[Daiko]

helped alot

thx

[acidglow]

nice. I like tutorial vids cause they have alot of editing and I like seeing the editing parts. :)

[FATALFURYKID]

I do my shoryuken diffirently when I play on a arcade machine but this one on the vid seem alot easier thanks. 5 STARS*****

[idi0t37]

omg thank u this helped a lot

[soleternity278]

its a tough one to do, it's definitely beyond me, but a lot of japanese players like Keeper, or Georgia do it.. Ask Ed Ma or Mike Watson for a tutorial =)

[SanguineSab]

sensei?

[thetaoizm]

the beat is sick. what's the name of it? do you know?

[soleternity278]

it's by 2pac called Picture Me Rollin, as noted earlier by bushinguy87. of course its only the instrumental to that song... =)

[allenliu1973]

love 2Pac!

[JPCWhutwhut]

Sounds like Picture me Rollin by Tupac

[solrak2]

Great tutorial, now it's time for me to put this into practice, is a little hard but eventually it will come out.

-=Solrak=-

[sowutifmahsnsux]

i needed a vid like this, thanks

[bushinguy87]

Picture me rolling!

[Frantastic23]

This is an awesome vid thanx for uploading Shend