I really enjoyed watching all of the videos of William. He seems very sweet, if high strung. You probably have been given lots of interesting advice about William, and it is clear that you understand him very well, but I wanted to give you an idea. He might do better with his feet if you teach him how to use his feet. Teach him a set of commands or cues for different motions with his feet. That way, he learns to feel in control of his own feet. He could have a cue for up, for setting on a stool.
More than other horses, he seems to fear not being in control of his own feet. Not standing once untied, pawing, extreme fear of the farrier-- it's probably why he only lets you do his feet. Perhaps share in his 'love' of his own feet, and teach him cues and tricks so he feels in control of the situation.
Hopefully your love will over ride the fear someday and he can relax. Time really does heal, not all the way but bad memories do fade when good memories dominate the brain. He is a beauty and so are you for loving him the way you do.
I am so sorry to see any equine feel so frightened. This comes from the past, of course. Whenever you see so much fear, you always wonder how many years this horse or pony has felt so afraid and had to perform anyway. I am so glad that a decent person has finally given him a home. He is very lucky.
it makes me laugh when people say "he isn't scared, he's aggressive" what do you think is causing the aggression. yes it could also be from a lack of respect, but most aggression stems from fear
DrumRunnin...its comments like this that make me upset about the horse world. Dominance is rarley the case and only in situations like the horse leaning on you or those matters and are rare. pawing is ALWAYS a sign of anxiety. just as a human paces when anxious. most horse vices are the result of anxiety.
Poor William. I had a mare that was abused by a farrier, and it took me several weeks and bags of carrots before I could trim her without a problem. Can you trim him yourself and use something like Easy Boots? I use them on my Welsh A driving pony and he can go anywhere with them.
That's absolutely HEARTBREAKING. If you need to have his fronts protected but still aren't getting anywhere with his training, have you considered hoof boots?
My mare was abused and neglected, absolutely despised the farrier, so we started trimming her hooves ourselves, and desensitizing her to farrier tools. We used natural horsemanship (Parelli) but I guarantee that any other natural horsemanship would also work like a charm.
I f your saying about they have to have shoes on, my friend got a product that is like a shoe, but it is a boot, it dose the same thing!!! and as Iron free Pony suggests do your own trimming.
The boots stay on cause the way they r shaped they can't be ripped off!!! they do that same thing as shoes.
How long was he tied? He looks more like he is getting inpatient with being tied to me. I had one that had no patience what so ever and that's how she reacted at times. Not to the point of striking with her front (thank God) but agree with another as well, looks like maybe being put in A round pen and worked awhile to get some of that pent up energy worn down might also help him realize he isn't the alpha in this situation. He looks restless as well. How long had he been tied out?
I love how everyone always judges within seconds after watching a video. My old QH started doing this in his last 2 years when I started shoeing him. He was always very good w the farrier, and thank god my farrier was super patient with him. He'd attack him and me if I was near. You say it's "unacceptable to paw?" or that ANY behaviour is ALWAYS this or that? Ha. Found out through blood test that it was a tumour in his circulitory system. Prob made his feet go numb to hold them up.
I'll be the first to admit that I don't know all that much about horses, but you don't need to be an expert to see that he's afraid, not aggressive. If he really wanted to hurt someone, all he has to do is kick, but he's not. He's just saying he wants to be left alone. He seems like a very sweet horse, and here's hoping that he's made progress since this was posted--no animal should be made to fear.
When I first watched this, and watching him paw out at the farrier I would of almost agreed with DrumRunnin. But then I went and watched other videos of him. He's so sensitive in his natures and in another video of him standing for the farrier it was clear that he was terrified. At this realisation I felt awful about my first judgement. So from a horse owner of 15 years, thank you for broadening my mind to take a second look from time to time! We are never to old to learn. x.
The thing is, that when you try judging what you see here without knowing its earlier context, you could easily end up misjudging the situation.
Seeing this as "misjudged agression" and beating up this horse in the past to "make him stand" is probably the cause of his trauma. And also probably the reason why former owners sold him.
All you have to do is let him think the farrier's coming, tie him up, and let him file his own feet on the gravel with his pawing! But seriously now, I hope he gets better with farriers :)
William is in serious need of an owner who is going to treat him like a horse, not a kitten...He needs to be worked until he's nice and tired then stand in hobbles for a patience lesson..Pawing IMO is NOT acceptable, especially not pawing at a person. He isn't scared, he is expressing "I am dominant here and I will hurt you if you come close"...SccrChick214 said it very well..He has learned who he can push around and what he can get away with.
You are very wrong, he is not treated like a kitten. I do the trimming myself without any problem (see my video about that). Extreme farrrier abuse in the past has lead to this behaviour. And people thinking and acting like you traumatised him, this being the result.
I agree with some other comments, he looks more like he's throwing a tantrum than is scarred, but the outcome is the same so it doesn't really matter. I'm lucky in that my horse will never need to be shod but understand that a hackney horses movement is heavy on their feet and legs. I hope you sort his problem!
I agree. I dont see a scared horse, I see a horse that has gotten away with scaring people before and knows that he can get away with it if he acts a certain way. He is a smart horse that knows how to work people so that he gets his way.
This is sad. Poor horse. Of course he's scared. And he probably got that way be being owned/treated by people like the ones commenting "he's not scared he's aggressive" and beat him when he acted nervous. YES, he's acting aggressive, he's saying "STAY AWAY FROM ME!!!" Why would an otherwise normally behaved horse act like that? Because he was traumatized. Some horses will just never get over being mistreated and do need tranquilizers to be shod.
Sorry...I don't see scared in this horse either....not in his face, not in his attitude, not in his actions, not in his ears or lips or expression. I see impatience, aggression and lack of respect. Unless you know for a fact that he was abused by a farrier, I'd start looking at what is likely the real problem; improper training combined with his lack of respect for humans. Lovely horse, too bad he's a spoiled butt-munch.
I have 2 horses with farrier abuse in their past, they started out acting very much like this one but also running backwards and breaking everything. We were very lucky with our farrier but it also took a lot of time to regain trust. At first they did have to be mainline tranquilized but now they are fine they just have to be worked with with patience.
He is really not showing off or being aggressive, he's scared :( I hope it gets better for you guys he's a beautiful horse
I really dislike horses that behave like that. And horses do better with a shoer when they aren't tied. I have had many horses behave like that because they were tied. But once being held by me or someone else stood there just fine. I feel bad for the horse in this video tho. Because you can tell at one point he was abused for not standing still,but that does not mean he needs and or should behave like that.
@KCC62BRx he wasn't acting like that because he was tied, it was because of the farrier. We have horses that act jumpy when they are tied, but they have never kicked out or bucked, etc. The worst they do is paw. It is a natural instinct becasue in the wild what would happen if a predator comes up while the horse is restrained?
I don't think he is scared - he is aggressive! If he was scared he would be trying much harder to run away. I think he knows that by stamping the ground the farrier will go away and he won't have his feet done...
If he was scared he wouldn't be tied up he would already have set him self free. Horses' natural instinct is to run. He is agressive and dangerous. NOT scared.
@hntrjmprlou and you clearly know very little about this horse. this behaviour may be dangerous, but this horse was a recent rescue at this point and was clearly severely traumatised at some point in his life by a farrier. he is doing much better now.
Your horse has incredibly beautiful conformation. You should ride him (if you don't already.) Even just a little bareback riding here and there would do this stunning boy a lot of good!
Have you tried putting shoes on him after you have worked him or ridden him so he is tired and somewhat more compliant? Also if you cross tie him and have the farrier approach from the side you can be offering treats when he behaves appropriately.
Shoes make horses lame... maybe someone told him that. (PS every horse ik eather paces or does those rolling snorts when they r scared... unless u think my moms almost 15.2hh horse was tryin to look big and scary to a 4 inch tall kitten while he streached as far as he could so he could smell it with out being close to it and he was showing off when it taped his nose with its foot and he spun and took off. And of corse my horse wants to intimadate a down pole, or the moutning block, or a bridge)
@SuperSusieJ My ferrier isnt the only one to tell me that... and he is amazing with horses so you dont need to say stuff bout him. And they do, They stop the horses hoof from flexing and moveing like it should and after a while the mulse thing in the hoof gets really really small and messed up so when you take it off and they put the hoof down it flexs and messes up the musle... or something like that anyway the end result *Dun dun dun* Naviculer (witch can be fixed---
@SuperSusieJ ---but most people only temaralaly fix it by jacking up the shoe so it doesnt hurt anymore but then they have to keep raseing it until they cant go any higher and the horse is put down. The only way to fix navicler for good is miles. Lots and lots of miles. They limp and people think your being crule but in the end the horse comes out sound. (they have about 20 cases of liveing prof, witch is a 100% success rate.)
@SuperSusieJ yes but he isnt the only one and i've seen it happen, and be fixed. (But it takes years of shoeing its not just like an over night thing, It happens most with the good show horses that are shoed pretty much their hole life and their usally the ones that spend almost every night clean cut, braded and blanketed in a stall.
Id'e agree, he's being agressive, not scared. huffing and puffing and strikeing and stareing and makeing himself look big, bad and dangerus. Id'e say....he wants to move his feet eh? Well move his feet, but move him how YOU want, make him work then show him being tied and haveing his feet handled is more desireable than being worked.
Have you ever thought of putting him in a stock holder. My brothers horse was like this but once in the stock holder he was calm and now he can be shod without any problems.
The horse acts nervous... he doesn't need to be slapped. You should look for other ways to correct the behavior. Slapping your horse isn't always the answer if they're not acting the way you want them to. As for the farrier, he did nothing wrong. when the horse showed aggressive behavior he backed off, probably to think of another way.
no was is it truma he need a slap or his owner to stand near him and keep him calm n cool plus the black smith didnt go near him with confidence did he horses like that just need to have time spent getting used to it,, doesnt look like he gets tied up much should ov given him some food but no just let him freak out well thats clever NO!!
@123Sunshinegirl321. I think this man did nothing to his horse. The horse is just nervous. I think he's making himself nervous. Not al horses are the same, even this horse not. Some horses got a trauma, sometimes you can't know what the reason is. I'm Dutch, so I'll understand what that man says. Also, I don't think that it's his fould. This horse knows that when he does this, that man not in his area comes. He's just smart ;)
I'm not sure who told you that it is "desirable" to shoe a horse, but they must not have very much knowledge about the horses' hoof.
William appears to have a nice-shaped hoof. If you can continue to do your own trimming, a little bit every week keep his feet healthy.
Shoeing a horse that nervous is not only giving him "brass knuckles" (dangerous!) but if he will not allow a farrier to reset his shoes regularly, there will be damage both by the shoe and overgrowth.
@IronFreePony First off, whether they want to shoe or not is their decision. Some find it preferable for what they're doing. Horse racing requires the horses to be shod and even some jumpers. Second, the horse is not nervous just putting on a show and is being obnoxions. I'm going to guess it's a stallion.
@IronFreePony How the hell was that ignorant? I've worked with horses for sixteen years in both industries and total. If you knew a thing about body language you may actually have a clue as to what you presume to be talking about. Who's the ignorant one?
@IronFreePony he was hoping to shoe his front feet because cart horses almost always drive on roads and hard surfaces that would wear williams feet down too fast. I also prefer barefoot trimming however many carthorses need front shoes to stay sound and happy.
@SombraWolf24 If the hoof cannot hold up to what is being asked of the horse, you are asking too much ;-)
Strengthening the weakest link only transfers the weakness to another part of the body. The hoof is designed to wear down, and he'd have to move a LOT of miles to wear his feet TOO much :-)
@IronFreePony my mare has to have shoes...she broke 3 cauffin bones when she was a baby and there was no hope for her to walk unless protected 24/7 by shoes, on top of that she has laminitis and shoes help control it. Another example, my gelding has sever navicular, with shoes, he's running around happy as can be in the pasture, without shoes, he can't move in his stall. there ARE exceptions, that make it "desirable" to shoes horses
@GoldEyedNickCLover Navicular is absolutely fixable, it's about having the correct environment and trimming. You mentioned stalls, so my guess is if your horses are stalled, they do not get adequate movement. As far as broken coffin bones, yowch! Poor girl! But I imagine she could be sound with correct trimming and movement. Laminitis is certainly NOT helped by shoes and in the long run, creates more problems. But this is of course, just words, not actions, so It really doesn't matter.
@IronFreePony thanks for the concern...but unfortunately shoes are a must for both of them. they have stalls with 5 acres of pasture to move out on. we've done everything to keep shoes off the horses, cuz trust me, i prefer barefoot also. but like i said, nothing can be done for those to
@IronFreePony my gelding has 4 white feet. he is out 14 hrs a day, is nevery in a wet stall, and has average feet. he requires 2 reg steel shoes on the front while he goes barefeet behind, even when he's not being worked hard. there is not one shoeing fix for all the horses in the world- if there was, ppl would do it themselves
@IronFreePony his front feet have way too long a toe while his heel is quite low- he might not need shoes, but he definitely needs some work done. the amount of pavement he will be on while pulling the cart will just chip his feet. unless he wants to get easy boots, or the horse has amazingly strong feet, shoes are the way to go
@PaintedPicasso The long toe and underslung heel are definitely fixable by a competent trimmer. Sadly, that is often the result of farrier trims.
Boots are certainly the way to go while the horses' feet are healing from shoeing trauma. They protect the hoof, but still allow the flexibility required to help support the heart.
Shoes inhibit bloodflow through the hoof, putting strain on the heart and metabolism.
Also, chipping is nature's way of trimming the hoof. This is okay! Shoes are not.
A bit confused as to why he was not in a cross-tie. Tied at a single piont against a wall is a good way for the farrier to be hurt as well. My grandfather and many of my grandmother's relatives were blacksmiths and I do all my own trimming. William is a lovely horse and it's a pity he was abused in the past, but it appears that he has learned that by behaving in this manner he he can get his way (not being shod). I would be concerned that it might progress to dangerously aggressive behavior.
This is such a beautiful horse. It really hurts me to think that he has been mistreated in the past :( Absolutely beautiful, you seem to take great care of him!
Leave him barefoot while shoe him when he doesn't need to be shod! his feet will suffer more once he is shod as shoeing reduces the blood flow to the hoof which is why they become brittle and crack.
@eddie100 You dont need to Shoe a horse. It is better for them to NOT be shod. Infact Nailing a lump of metal to a horses foot reduces the blood flow to them! Science as proven it!
misschien als je de hoefsmid elke week of vaker laat komen en dat ie dan wat eten meeneemt ofzo, zodat ie dan in elk geval de man gaat vertrouwen? echt zielig :(
Poor boy.. he looks absolutely terrified! I can only imagine what kinds of horrors he must've went through with a past farrier. Some can be terribly rough or abusive. I'm glad my farrier has patience, and is a very kind old man. He trimmed my colt for the first time, and my colt was dozing in the cross-ties while my farrier was rasping his hooves!
Wat verschrikkelijk om te zien hoe hij reageert op de hoefsmid. Ook zijn reactie op situaties, het is echt duidelijk dat dit prachtige beestje iets ontzettend naars heeft meegemaakt in zijn verleden :( Voor jullie respect, voor hier mee om te gaan en hem toch lekker zichzelf te laten zijn!! Hoe gaat het nu met hem?
This horse is beautiful. He must have been extremely abused in the past. My mare acts like this with my mom though she has never been shoed until this year, due to she has not too long ago turned two. She also tried to bite her when she picked up her feet. She has eventually grew out of that though.
aangezien ik hoor dat je nederlands bent ga ik niet moeilijk doen in het engels.
Waarom oefen je niet eerst met het wennen aan het zien van de spullen van een hoefsmid? het paard is al helemaal nerveus als hij de wagen met de hoefsmid ziet volgens mij. Hij herkend het duidelijk. Is er bekend dat hij in het verleden slechte ervaringen heeft opgedaan met een hoefsmid?
"Here, I'll trim my own hooves! See, no problems!" XD
But yeah, that poor horse is terrified. :(
How is he with picking out the hooves?
Do you have to anesthetize him when the farrier comes?
Poor thing, it does break my heart, and he's tethered to the wall, so I'm sure he's in near panic mode. I think he'd take out the wall if in full panic mode.
@NebetSeta Why in the hell would you use anesthetize the horse needs to learn to stand! and they wount learn it if your druging the horse.. win i shoe my horse i use a soft rope and train them to stand and that way if they were to get the foot stuck some how in a fence there not going to breack there leg..
Ik kan natuurlijk niet het hele filmpje zien, maar ik vind het wel jammer dat de smit het na een paar keer al zegt dat het niks word... Het zou mooi zijn als hij er een keer echt de tijd voor kan maken :)
Al snap ik dat dat in het leven van nu niet mogelijk is xD
nevermind,,, I just realized you live in holland where it gets very wet, the booties might not be an option ... though I don't have personal experience using them and I know that does not solve the problem of needing someone else to trim.
i remember my father trying to trim my first ponys hooves and he pulled up a stool and was trimming a hoof and the horse flipped around and pushing him down with his front feet
Yeah, this horse is terribly nervous, that striking is a defensive movement. Normally, I would heavily punish a horse that strikes, but this horse would lose it if that farrier were to get aggresive.
I'm sure a good part of this is a trust problem... Every time you have to get a horse at your barn shod, have the farrier come over and just say hi to him and pet him a little, just so William can learn its ok, and maybe with time he will begin to except the fact that this man wont hurt him.
all you guys are so focused on the hoof thing...what about the extreme heavy breathing and "snorting" the horse is doing??? Ours ONLY do that snort when they are escalating in excitement from nervousness to trepidation to outright fear....if we hear it get THIS heavy we leave the area that is bothering them sooo much...in the past it has been dogs or animals in the woods or snakes...never once have they done it and it be a false alarm....the farrier in this case is Williams snake in the grass
That's really sad :( poor thing must have had some very bad experiences to be so scared. I'm glad he has ended up with you who has the patience and understanding not to try and force the issue. A lucky horse it seems.
Have you ever considered just leaving him bare foot? It seems almost cruel to put him though this just to stick nasty shoes on his feet. I have 3 horse and all of them are barefoot . My 11 year old had terrible feet when I got her. Now with no shoes, she is an endurance horse and has rock crunching hooves. My other two have never been shod.
Just a suggestion: try this out in the pasture, or a paddock, or any open area and without him being tied up. Just give him some space to get back if he needs to, to get some release and then work his confidence up from there. Also would be nice to desensitize him to "the farrier experience" sort to speak, get the pants, get the hoof stand, get the bucket, trow them out with him, let him smell them, let him play with them etc. He should learn to ignore them over time.
I burned a CD of Monty Roberts that fixes this problem. It's all about gaining trust. Without doping him at all. I will send it to you if you message me with your address. I thought of William and how this might help him with the farrier!
Oh, poor William, this breaks my heart. He's been under the loving care of his new papa for 3 years and he's still scared silly of the farrier. He's shaking and trying to melt into the wall, that's fear, same as before. The trailer, the raised broom, the farrier, being alone....all the earmarks of fear & abuse & he's NOT become hateful! He just wants to be loved & serve his Papa, like any happy horse. He's going to need extra portions of love & patience & has the right Papa for the job!!!
Another comment, looking at this again: do you think William has now learned that this behavior will get him off the hook? The striking out with his front leg is unnacceptable no matter what has happened before. Just sayin'!
@AnywhereButHere09 that horse is obviously very frightened. if you watch and listen to him he's evidently gone into fight mode since he cant flee. if you tried diciplining that horse in the state he's in it will only make him worse and increase his fear.
@painthorselover101 I still believe that because he has done this for so many years, he has now learned this is what will get him out of a sticky wicket, or at least delay his "pain." He has done this in earlier vids, and no improvement. It is now I believe a learned response. Not to say good or bad, it's what he has trained others to expect of him. Horses are very very clever, and William is a brilliant beast!
@AnywhereButHere09 the owner has said that William is fine when he does his feet, but freaks out when he sees a stranger is about to do his feet. that clearly means that William is showing fear towards the stranger, not the act of hoof trimming itself. i have draft horses and have seen the brutality an impatient farrier will di
he is adorebole !
heste00 18 hours ago
ill buy him off of u guys how much
alexx6377 2 days ago
he's gorgeous...so terrified..poor love.
HavvahartKL 2 days ago
I really enjoyed watching all of the videos of William. He seems very sweet, if high strung. You probably have been given lots of interesting advice about William, and it is clear that you understand him very well, but I wanted to give you an idea. He might do better with his feet if you teach him how to use his feet. Teach him a set of commands or cues for different motions with his feet. That way, he learns to feel in control of his own feet. He could have a cue for up, for setting on a stool.
Shansurri 2 days ago
More than other horses, he seems to fear not being in control of his own feet. Not standing once untied, pawing, extreme fear of the farrier-- it's probably why he only lets you do his feet. Perhaps share in his 'love' of his own feet, and teach him cues and tricks so he feels in control of the situation.
Shansurri 2 days ago
whats wrong with him??
Horses321Rule 2 days ago
Hopefully your love will over ride the fear someday and he can relax. Time really does heal, not all the way but bad memories do fade when good memories dominate the brain. He is a beauty and so are you for loving him the way you do.
theravenweeps 4 days ago
Poor horse :(
Leave him there for a few more hours and it'll wear down :P
...I am kidding btw.
Yeah poor William :( Hopefully it'll get better :/
44Teal44 6 days ago
All I can tell is he's not very happy, AND he sure can use a trimming. But I'm sure as the AWESOME owner you are you were perfectly aware of that :)
HorseyFriends 6 days ago
I am so sorry to see any equine feel so frightened. This comes from the past, of course. Whenever you see so much fear, you always wonder how many years this horse or pony has felt so afraid and had to perform anyway. I am so glad that a decent person has finally given him a home. He is very lucky.
gcpropertymanagement 1 week ago
oh gawds im thinking of going to the dentist when i see this vid...
jonnythunderwalker 1 week ago
poor horse.:(
TRbreyerhorsecrazy 2 weeks ago
it makes me laugh when people say "he isn't scared, he's aggressive" what do you think is causing the aggression. yes it could also be from a lack of respect, but most aggression stems from fear
PaintedPicasso 2 weeks ago
DrumRunnin...its comments like this that make me upset about the horse world. Dominance is rarley the case and only in situations like the horse leaning on you or those matters and are rare. pawing is ALWAYS a sign of anxiety. just as a human paces when anxious. most horse vices are the result of anxiety.
wh0reship 2 weeks ago
Poor William. I had a mare that was abused by a farrier, and it took me several weeks and bags of carrots before I could trim her without a problem. Can you trim him yourself and use something like Easy Boots? I use them on my Welsh A driving pony and he can go anywhere with them.
pmarie2003 2 weeks ago
That's absolutely HEARTBREAKING. If you need to have his fronts protected but still aren't getting anywhere with his training, have you considered hoof boots?
Nizingur 2 weeks ago
ahww
Onzevlog 2 weeks ago
thats like me with dentists!
emma1997red 2 weeks ago
Wat heeft een smid hem aangedaan?
Goed bekapwerk kan ervoor zorgen dat de scheuren netjes uit de hoef groeien ( fisures zijn scheuren toch?)
Verder vind ik het filmpje dat u hem bekapt erg mooi, fijn dat hij wel het vertrouwen in u heeft.
Linsi273 3 weeks ago
Not the horses fault...the owners.
burrejo 3 weeks ago 9
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You are right, no doubt, the previous owners allowed William to be extremely abused by farriers
hackneysaregreat 3 weeks ago
My mare was abused and neglected, absolutely despised the farrier, so we started trimming her hooves ourselves, and desensitizing her to farrier tools. We used natural horsemanship (Parelli) but I guarantee that any other natural horsemanship would also work like a charm.
CherubHorse 3 weeks ago
O my God! That is soo sad! I feel soo sorry for that poor horse>:'(
321horsecrazy 3 weeks ago
I f your saying about they have to have shoes on, my friend got a product that is like a shoe, but it is a boot, it dose the same thing!!! and as Iron free Pony suggests do your own trimming.
The boots stay on cause the way they r shaped they can't be ripped off!!! they do that same thing as shoes.
Just a suggestion.
2101lovelilly 3 weeks ago
How long was he tied? He looks more like he is getting inpatient with being tied to me. I had one that had no patience what so ever and that's how she reacted at times. Not to the point of striking with her front (thank God) but agree with another as well, looks like maybe being put in A round pen and worked awhile to get some of that pent up energy worn down might also help him realize he isn't the alpha in this situation. He looks restless as well. How long had he been tied out?
chrisg4161 3 weeks ago
What kind of horse is he?
DarkRose1214 4 weeks ago
I love how everyone always judges within seconds after watching a video. My old QH started doing this in his last 2 years when I started shoeing him. He was always very good w the farrier, and thank god my farrier was super patient with him. He'd attack him and me if I was near. You say it's "unacceptable to paw?" or that ANY behaviour is ALWAYS this or that? Ha. Found out through blood test that it was a tumour in his circulitory system. Prob made his feet go numb to hold them up.
CherryChaplins 4 weeks ago
I'll be the first to admit that I don't know all that much about horses, but you don't need to be an expert to see that he's afraid, not aggressive. If he really wanted to hurt someone, all he has to do is kick, but he's not. He's just saying he wants to be left alone. He seems like a very sweet horse, and here's hoping that he's made progress since this was posted--no animal should be made to fear.
HanaOfBrockdonia 4 weeks ago 2
It's like he is saying, OMG! he's here! the man that hurts my feet!, He's here to hurt my feet!!
bassbugg7 1 month ago
When I first watched this, and watching him paw out at the farrier I would of almost agreed with DrumRunnin. But then I went and watched other videos of him. He's so sensitive in his natures and in another video of him standing for the farrier it was clear that he was terrified. At this realisation I felt awful about my first judgement. So from a horse owner of 15 years, thank you for broadening my mind to take a second look from time to time! We are never to old to learn. x.
TheSJNano 1 month ago 15
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Don't feel awful, I am still learning too.
The thing is, that when you try judging what you see here without knowing its earlier context, you could easily end up misjudging the situation.
Seeing this as "misjudged agression" and beating up this horse in the past to "make him stand" is probably the cause of his trauma. And also probably the reason why former owners sold him.
hackneysaregreat 1 month ago
germ een paard dat 3 jaar niet meer gekapt is?
maar deze hoefsmid heeft geen tijd of wat? dat hij niet zo'n paard kan kappen... zijn idd hoefsmeden die daar de tijd en geduld wel voor hebben...
dhychi 1 month ago
Awww poor thing is so terrified! Hope you guys can find some sort of middle ground with him :) oh! and he is absolutely beautiful!
emoheartsJR 1 month ago
All you have to do is let him think the farrier's coming, tie him up, and let him file his own feet on the gravel with his pawing! But seriously now, I hope he gets better with farriers :)
TheHorseLady1212 1 month ago
William is in serious need of an owner who is going to treat him like a horse, not a kitten...He needs to be worked until he's nice and tired then stand in hobbles for a patience lesson..Pawing IMO is NOT acceptable, especially not pawing at a person. He isn't scared, he is expressing "I am dominant here and I will hurt you if you come close"...SccrChick214 said it very well..He has learned who he can push around and what he can get away with.
DrumRunnin 1 month ago
@DrumRunnin
You are very wrong, he is not treated like a kitten. I do the trimming myself without any problem (see my video about that). Extreme farrrier abuse in the past has lead to this behaviour. And people thinking and acting like you traumatised him, this being the result.
hackneysaregreat 1 month ago
@DrumRunnin You are very wrong, you need to study a little more on horse behavior.
This guy knows what he's doing.
GuardianofDarkness 1 month ago
Very beautiful horse! ♥
186Gold 1 month ago
I agree with some other comments, he looks more like he's throwing a tantrum than is scarred, but the outcome is the same so it doesn't really matter. I'm lucky in that my horse will never need to be shod but understand that a hackney horses movement is heavy on their feet and legs. I hope you sort his problem!
rupertbunyip 1 month ago
GAWJUS horse, a horse has 2 trust 2 let people near the feet i wouldnt let sum 1 i dont know touch my feet fuck that lol
metalchick66666 1 month ago
Er zijn hoefsmeden die wel gewoon met zulke paarden om kunnen gaan.
Je moet gewoon een rustige hoefsmid hebben, kan er wel 1 opnoemen maar das in Noord holland, en weet niet waar dit is.
mis2sexy 1 month ago
@mis2sexy
dit is een hele rustige hoefsmid, en één van de beste.
hackneysaregreat 1 month ago
I agree. I dont see a scared horse, I see a horse that has gotten away with scaring people before and knows that he can get away with it if he acts a certain way. He is a smart horse that knows how to work people so that he gets his way.
SccrChick214 1 month ago
This is sad. Poor horse. Of course he's scared. And he probably got that way be being owned/treated by people like the ones commenting "he's not scared he's aggressive" and beat him when he acted nervous. YES, he's acting aggressive, he's saying "STAY AWAY FROM ME!!!" Why would an otherwise normally behaved horse act like that? Because he was traumatized. Some horses will just never get over being mistreated and do need tranquilizers to be shod.
whitewolfe001 1 month ago 2
Sorry...I don't see scared in this horse either....not in his face, not in his attitude, not in his actions, not in his ears or lips or expression. I see impatience, aggression and lack of respect. Unless you know for a fact that he was abused by a farrier, I'd start looking at what is likely the real problem; improper training combined with his lack of respect for humans. Lovely horse, too bad he's a spoiled butt-munch.
osceolapug 1 month ago
Poor William! How anyone can abuse an animal is beyond me! hope he learns to trust again...
HellOnHighWheels 1 month ago
I have 2 horses with farrier abuse in their past, they started out acting very much like this one but also running backwards and breaking everything. We were very lucky with our farrier but it also took a lot of time to regain trust. At first they did have to be mainline tranquilized but now they are fine they just have to be worked with with patience.
He is really not showing off or being aggressive, he's scared :( I hope it gets better for you guys he's a beautiful horse
universalradio 1 month ago
Is this in holland?
TwiggyXstarsXgSm 1 month ago
I really dislike horses that behave like that. And horses do better with a shoer when they aren't tied. I have had many horses behave like that because they were tied. But once being held by me or someone else stood there just fine. I feel bad for the horse in this video tho. Because you can tell at one point he was abused for not standing still,but that does not mean he needs and or should behave like that.
KCC62BRx 1 month ago 7
@KCC62BRx He probably doesn't know any better, he's not sure what this farrier is going to do.
RandomIsTheWord 3 weeks ago
@KCC62BRx he wasn't acting like that because he was tied, it was because of the farrier. We have horses that act jumpy when they are tied, but they have never kicked out or bucked, etc. The worst they do is paw. It is a natural instinct becasue in the wild what would happen if a predator comes up while the horse is restrained?
BeezieMadden13 1 week ago
I don't think he is scared - he is aggressive! If he was scared he would be trying much harder to run away. I think he knows that by stamping the ground the farrier will go away and he won't have his feet done...
XxILoveDollyxX 1 month ago
he's like "FECK OFF YOUR NOT TOUCHING MY FEET!!!" lol :) he's so cute, bless him :')
LoloXXScotty 1 month ago 2
such a shame, he's beautiful as well. <3
hollie120395 1 month ago
try giving him a sedative when your farrier comes to calm him down?<3
hollie120395 1 month ago
@hollie120395
tried that several times, no result, after a few minutes he completely wakes up.
hackneysaregreat 1 month ago
If he was scared he wouldn't be tied up he would already have set him self free. Horses' natural instinct is to run. He is agressive and dangerous. NOT scared.
naggydu02 1 month ago
Dangerous aggressive behavior . He obviously has your number and has no respect for people.
hntrjmprlou 1 month ago
@hntrjmprlou and you clearly know very little about this horse. this behaviour may be dangerous, but this horse was a recent rescue at this point and was clearly severely traumatised at some point in his life by a farrier. he is doing much better now.
SombraWolf24 1 month ago
This horse is aggressive not scared. Mark my words he will end up hurting someone.
hntrjmprlou 1 month ago
Your horse has incredibly beautiful conformation. You should ride him (if you don't already.) Even just a little bareback riding here and there would do this stunning boy a lot of good!
TwinkiesCanFly 2 months ago
Have you tried putting shoes on him after you have worked him or ridden him so he is tired and somewhat more compliant? Also if you cross tie him and have the farrier approach from the side you can be offering treats when he behaves appropriately.
aoverson1 2 months ago
Shoes make horses lame... maybe someone told him that. (PS every horse ik eather paces or does those rolling snorts when they r scared... unless u think my moms almost 15.2hh horse was tryin to look big and scary to a 4 inch tall kitten while he streached as far as he could so he could smell it with out being close to it and he was showing off when it taped his nose with its foot and he spun and took off. And of corse my horse wants to intimadate a down pole, or the moutning block, or a bridge)
1233Maya 2 months ago
@1233Maya WTF!!! 'Shoes make horses lame' ????...you need to change your farrier!!
SuperSusieJ 2 months ago 2
@SuperSusieJ My ferrier isnt the only one to tell me that... and he is amazing with horses so you dont need to say stuff bout him. And they do, They stop the horses hoof from flexing and moveing like it should and after a while the mulse thing in the hoof gets really really small and messed up so when you take it off and they put the hoof down it flexs and messes up the musle... or something like that anyway the end result *Dun dun dun* Naviculer (witch can be fixed---
1233Maya 2 months ago
@SuperSusieJ ---but most people only temaralaly fix it by jacking up the shoe so it doesnt hurt anymore but then they have to keep raseing it until they cant go any higher and the horse is put down. The only way to fix navicler for good is miles. Lots and lots of miles. They limp and people think your being crule but in the end the horse comes out sound. (they have about 20 cases of liveing prof, witch is a 100% success rate.)
1233Maya 2 months ago
@1233Maya So your farrier told you that shoeing horses causes Navicular disease?
SuperSusieJ 2 months ago
@SuperSusieJ yes but he isnt the only one and i've seen it happen, and be fixed. (But it takes years of shoeing its not just like an over night thing, It happens most with the good show horses that are shoed pretty much their hole life and their usally the ones that spend almost every night clean cut, braded and blanketed in a stall.
1233Maya 2 months ago
Id'e agree, he's being agressive, not scared. huffing and puffing and strikeing and stareing and makeing himself look big, bad and dangerus. Id'e say....he wants to move his feet eh? Well move his feet, but move him how YOU want, make him work then show him being tied and haveing his feet handled is more desireable than being worked.
JasperIsaLittleHorse 2 months ago
Is that a race horse? And what breed?
happy51593 2 months ago
Have you ever thought of putting him in a stock holder. My brothers horse was like this but once in the stock holder he was calm and now he can be shod without any problems.
DogSoldiersSpoon 2 months ago
LOL 0:35
Farrier: "Here William, lemme just pet you, everything's gonna be alri-"
William: "NO!"
XD
equinestar12 2 months ago 3
The horse acts nervous... he doesn't need to be slapped. You should look for other ways to correct the behavior. Slapping your horse isn't always the answer if they're not acting the way you want them to. As for the farrier, he did nothing wrong. when the horse showed aggressive behavior he backed off, probably to think of another way.
Sunnie141 2 months ago
tehe he has you well trained haha Im a Animal Behaviorist and he has you trained the way he likes it lol
mousey16 2 months ago
no was is it truma he need a slap or his owner to stand near him and keep him calm n cool plus the black smith didnt go near him with confidence did he horses like that just need to have time spent getting used to it,, doesnt look like he gets tied up much should ov given him some food but no just let him freak out well thats clever NO!!
jumpjames 2 months ago
i dont think the horse is scared he is only threatening him because he wants to get it his way
Anneko101 2 months ago
A little rope does not hold a horse when he's really scared.
If you really want to shoe him, phone someone who is used to do draft horses. They have the proper equipment to shoe in safety.
Saartjen 2 months ago
haha gaat goed :P
spinksjee 2 months ago
how did he get tramatized?
horses4ever398 2 months ago
tie his bloody feet together !
Warmbloodluva 2 months ago
@Warmbloodluva That is sick.
IronFreePony 3 weeks ago
@123Sunshinegirl321. I think this man did nothing to his horse. The horse is just nervous. I think he's making himself nervous. Not al horses are the same, even this horse not. Some horses got a trauma, sometimes you can't know what the reason is. I'm Dutch, so I'll understand what that man says. Also, I don't think that it's his fould. This horse knows that when he does this, that man not in his area comes. He's just smart ;)
MyNamiejj 2 months ago
Lol He's like "Come at me bro!"
Caryssa14 2 months ago
Aww he is sooo cute
shescountry4 2 months ago
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THIS HORSE!?
123Sunshinegirl321 2 months ago
@123Sunshinegirl321 Read the description. He did nothing, someone else has.
C00kieM0nster07 2 months ago
What. I see a horse tied. Thats all
eddie100 2 months ago
hobble his ass and let him paw at that while they stand there
Jessebaydos 2 months ago
Yeah, why shoe?
I'm not sure who told you that it is "desirable" to shoe a horse, but they must not have very much knowledge about the horses' hoof.
William appears to have a nice-shaped hoof. If you can continue to do your own trimming, a little bit every week keep his feet healthy.
Shoeing a horse that nervous is not only giving him "brass knuckles" (dangerous!) but if he will not allow a farrier to reset his shoes regularly, there will be damage both by the shoe and overgrowth.
IronFreePony 2 months ago 20
@IronFreePony First off, whether they want to shoe or not is their decision. Some find it preferable for what they're doing. Horse racing requires the horses to be shod and even some jumpers. Second, the horse is not nervous just putting on a show and is being obnoxions. I'm going to guess it's a stallion.
BlindMagSoprano 2 months ago
@BlindMagSoprano Huh. Was going to reply. Comment is too ignorant to bother with.
IronFreePony 3 weeks ago
@IronFreePony How the hell was that ignorant? I've worked with horses for sixteen years in both industries and total. If you knew a thing about body language you may actually have a clue as to what you presume to be talking about. Who's the ignorant one?
BlindMagSoprano 3 weeks ago
@BlindMagSoprano Ah, the main difference between you and I: you just gave me insight into your experience, while I have given you none ;-)
16 years? Ok.
IF I knew about body language? Hmm. Ok.
I maintain my initial reply.
IronFreePony 3 weeks ago
@IronFreePony he was hoping to shoe his front feet because cart horses almost always drive on roads and hard surfaces that would wear williams feet down too fast. I also prefer barefoot trimming however many carthorses need front shoes to stay sound and happy.
SombraWolf24 1 month ago
@SombraWolf24 If the hoof cannot hold up to what is being asked of the horse, you are asking too much ;-)
Strengthening the weakest link only transfers the weakness to another part of the body. The hoof is designed to wear down, and he'd have to move a LOT of miles to wear his feet TOO much :-)
IronFreePony 3 weeks ago
@IronFreePony my mare has to have shoes...she broke 3 cauffin bones when she was a baby and there was no hope for her to walk unless protected 24/7 by shoes, on top of that she has laminitis and shoes help control it. Another example, my gelding has sever navicular, with shoes, he's running around happy as can be in the pasture, without shoes, he can't move in his stall. there ARE exceptions, that make it "desirable" to shoes horses
GoldEyedNickCLover 3 weeks ago
@GoldEyedNickCLover Navicular is absolutely fixable, it's about having the correct environment and trimming. You mentioned stalls, so my guess is if your horses are stalled, they do not get adequate movement. As far as broken coffin bones, yowch! Poor girl! But I imagine she could be sound with correct trimming and movement. Laminitis is certainly NOT helped by shoes and in the long run, creates more problems. But this is of course, just words, not actions, so It really doesn't matter.
IronFreePony 3 weeks ago
@IronFreePony thanks for the concern...but unfortunately shoes are a must for both of them. they have stalls with 5 acres of pasture to move out on. we've done everything to keep shoes off the horses, cuz trust me, i prefer barefoot also. but like i said, nothing can be done for those to
GoldEyedNickCLover 3 weeks ago
@IronFreePony my gelding has 4 white feet. he is out 14 hrs a day, is nevery in a wet stall, and has average feet. he requires 2 reg steel shoes on the front while he goes barefeet behind, even when he's not being worked hard. there is not one shoeing fix for all the horses in the world- if there was, ppl would do it themselves
PaintedPicasso 2 weeks ago
@IronFreePony his front feet have way too long a toe while his heel is quite low- he might not need shoes, but he definitely needs some work done. the amount of pavement he will be on while pulling the cart will just chip his feet. unless he wants to get easy boots, or the horse has amazingly strong feet, shoes are the way to go
PaintedPicasso 2 weeks ago
@PaintedPicasso The long toe and underslung heel are definitely fixable by a competent trimmer. Sadly, that is often the result of farrier trims.
Boots are certainly the way to go while the horses' feet are healing from shoeing trauma. They protect the hoof, but still allow the flexibility required to help support the heart.
Shoes inhibit bloodflow through the hoof, putting strain on the heart and metabolism.
Also, chipping is nature's way of trimming the hoof. This is okay! Shoes are not.
IronFreePony 2 weeks ago
A bit confused as to why he was not in a cross-tie. Tied at a single piont against a wall is a good way for the farrier to be hurt as well. My grandfather and many of my grandmother's relatives were blacksmiths and I do all my own trimming. William is a lovely horse and it's a pity he was abused in the past, but it appears that he has learned that by behaving in this manner he he can get his way (not being shod). I would be concerned that it might progress to dangerously aggressive behavior.
vulnaviadraco 2 months ago
This is such a beautiful horse. It really hurts me to think that he has been mistreated in the past :( Absolutely beautiful, you seem to take great care of him!
unebeaubelle 2 months ago
je zegt dat hij zonder verdoving nooit naar de hoefsmid zal kunnen....
sorry dat ik het zeg maar gaat niet bestaat niet...
en ik spreek uit ervaring heb al genoeg probleem paarden op training gehad...
met de correcte training en geduld is alles mogelijk...
ik hoop dat het snel beter met hem zal gaan...
bschoutese 2 months ago
Leave him barefoot while shoe him when he doesn't need to be shod! his feet will suffer more once he is shod as shoeing reduces the blood flow to the hoof which is why they become brittle and crack.
engrose 2 months ago 2
@engrose I'm not sure about what's going on here. My English/Aussie hasn't caught it yet.
eddie100 2 months ago
@eddie100 You dont need to Shoe a horse. It is better for them to NOT be shod. Infact Nailing a lump of metal to a horses foot reduces the blood flow to them! Science as proven it!
engrose 2 months ago
25 + years ago farriers delt with horse people....... now we have people with horses !!!
wouldn't have even put my apron on , at least train him to stand still when tied up ! before the farrier even gets out the van !
chunksmartin 2 months ago
jullie zijn hollanders :p
2edowin 2 months ago
misschien als je de hoefsmid elke week of vaker laat komen en dat ie dan wat eten meeneemt ofzo, zodat ie dan in elk geval de man gaat vertrouwen? echt zielig :(
dikkedoperwt 2 months ago
Jullie zijn dus ook Nederlands. Dit is echt zielig, z'n getraumatiseerd paard...
katyperryfan0101 2 months ago
just give him a hay net?
xomg123dcggx 2 months ago
Poor boy.. he looks absolutely terrified! I can only imagine what kinds of horrors he must've went through with a past farrier. Some can be terribly rough or abusive. I'm glad my farrier has patience, and is a very kind old man. He trimmed my colt for the first time, and my colt was dozing in the cross-ties while my farrier was rasping his hooves!
AliasRaven 2 months ago
This horse is absolutely stunning
offchop247 2 months ago
Poor William!
bladeofbattousai 2 months ago
Have you tried thoroughly exercising the horse before hand? He seems quite energetic in this video...
DiamondNotch 2 months ago
Wat verschrikkelijk om te zien hoe hij reageert op de hoefsmid. Ook zijn reactie op situaties, het is echt duidelijk dat dit prachtige beestje iets ontzettend naars heeft meegemaakt in zijn verleden :( Voor jullie respect, voor hier mee om te gaan en hem toch lekker zichzelf te laten zijn!! Hoe gaat het nu met hem?
basmalou 2 months ago
He already trimmed his own hooves on the sement!!!
WesterntheRider 2 months ago
A hole * haa im so goin to escape ( needed to be in 2 parts stupid mobile :D )
HeartXPure 2 months ago
William: ooh no there they r Farrier: so lets see William : ooh no you're not touching me *digs
HeartXPure 2 months ago
This horse is beautiful. He must have been extremely abused in the past. My mare acts like this with my mom though she has never been shoed until this year, due to she has not too long ago turned two. She also tried to bite her when she picked up her feet. She has eventually grew out of that though.
whitney2011ful 3 months ago
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what the he'll you can't just leave a horse on a short rope they need love and care and lots of exercise the poor thing is scared to death
monicaloveshorses1 3 months ago
Good Luck ehj :D
jessica31863 3 months ago
Did you try a female farrier? I know a horse with has simlear problems with male farriers, but is ok with females.
FFpepsie 3 months ago 2
aangezien ik hoor dat je nederlands bent ga ik niet moeilijk doen in het engels.
Waarom oefen je niet eerst met het wennen aan het zien van de spullen van een hoefsmid? het paard is al helemaal nerveus als hij de wagen met de hoefsmid ziet volgens mij. Hij herkend het duidelijk. Is er bekend dat hij in het verleden slechte ervaringen heeft opgedaan met een hoefsmid?
Sabrienaxx 3 months ago
das pferd hat voll die verhaltensstörung
TinkerLady11 3 months ago
"Here, I'll trim my own hooves! See, no problems!" XD
But yeah, that poor horse is terrified. :(
How is he with picking out the hooves?
Do you have to anesthetize him when the farrier comes?
Poor thing, it does break my heart, and he's tethered to the wall, so I'm sure he's in near panic mode. I think he'd take out the wall if in full panic mode.
NebetSeta 3 months ago
@NebetSeta Why in the hell would you use anesthetize the horse needs to learn to stand! and they wount learn it if your druging the horse.. win i shoe my horse i use a soft rope and train them to stand and that way if they were to get the foot stuck some how in a fence there not going to breack there leg..
cowgirlsdontcrydick 1 week ago
kowal który się boi konia hahha ojojoj
kukurydza518 3 months ago
Thats so sad, how could anyone abuse something so beautiful, I hope he gets better xx
xXeMokiDXxMCRXx 3 months ago
pracht pony beweegt ook zou mooi in draf
(:Sweet
horseloverCvdw 3 months ago
there is something about William that makes me wanna ride him really bad
:)
xXxWorthTheWaitxXx 3 months ago
Poor baby :[ At least he has someone who he can trust :]
LethalDelusions 3 months ago
Ik kan natuurlijk niet het hele filmpje zien, maar ik vind het wel jammer dat de smit het na een paar keer al zegt dat het niks word... Het zou mooi zijn als hij er een keer echt de tijd voor kan maken :)
Al snap ik dat dat in het leven van nu niet mogelijk is xD
Debujojuvle 3 months ago
What heeft ie meegemaakt dat ie zo erg getraumatiseerd is??
ccchhaannttaallii 3 months ago
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nevermind,,, I just realized you live in holland where it gets very wet, the booties might not be an option ... though I don't have personal experience using them and I know that does not solve the problem of needing someone else to trim.
rosskay 3 months ago
poor baby
KnG1Dakota 3 months ago
i remember my father trying to trim my first ponys hooves and he pulled up a stool and was trimming a hoof and the horse flipped around and pushing him down with his front feet
Inoryuki 3 months ago
Yeah, this horse is terribly nervous, that striking is a defensive movement. Normally, I would heavily punish a horse that strikes, but this horse would lose it if that farrier were to get aggresive.
peppiluv1 3 months ago
I'm sure a good part of this is a trust problem... Every time you have to get a horse at your barn shod, have the farrier come over and just say hi to him and pet him a little, just so William can learn its ok, and maybe with time he will begin to except the fact that this man wont hurt him.
Showjumper1011 3 months ago
all you guys are so focused on the hoof thing...what about the extreme heavy breathing and "snorting" the horse is doing??? Ours ONLY do that snort when they are escalating in excitement from nervousness to trepidation to outright fear....if we hear it get THIS heavy we leave the area that is bothering them sooo much...in the past it has been dogs or animals in the woods or snakes...never once have they done it and it be a false alarm....the farrier in this case is Williams snake in the grass
TheLdyvixenne 4 months ago
what is he scared about????
animallover2233 4 months ago
That's really sad :( poor thing must have had some very bad experiences to be so scared. I'm glad he has ended up with you who has the patience and understanding not to try and force the issue. A lucky horse it seems.
SeonaidGoldie 4 months ago
Hes so funny. Hes like "You see this foot bitch? Yeah, yeah look at the foot! GET ANY CLOSER AND IT'S GONNA KILL YOU!"
GodBlessBieber 4 months ago 38
@GodBlessBieber hahahahahah oh my gosh u made me HAHA LAHIETH HAHAHAHAH
hollyjaysage 2 months ago
@GodBlessBieber hahahahhaa thats great!
EastCoastCowGirl95 2 months ago
Have you ever considered just leaving him bare foot? It seems almost cruel to put him though this just to stick nasty shoes on his feet. I have 3 horse and all of them are barefoot . My 11 year old had terrible feet when I got her. Now with no shoes, she is an endurance horse and has rock crunching hooves. My other two have never been shod.
Watch the youtube video "wild about hooves"
twilightingX 4 months ago
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twilightingX 4 months ago
whow ik hou van hackneys ik had er ook een die had precies hetzelfde probleem. je hebt een mooi paard hoor echt waar
nienietrexy 4 months ago
Mooi paard zeg, maar waarom doet die dat?
MichelleJonasBrother 4 months ago
have you tried to sedate him when the farrier comes?
Orbitalkowa 4 months ago
The hoof beating thing really looks like an act though, should work on that also.
Gorgeous boy all around, hope he gets better :))))
Toretobs 4 months ago
Just a suggestion: try this out in the pasture, or a paddock, or any open area and without him being tied up. Just give him some space to get back if he needs to, to get some release and then work his confidence up from there. Also would be nice to desensitize him to "the farrier experience" sort to speak, get the pants, get the hoof stand, get the bucket, trow them out with him, let him smell them, let him play with them etc. He should learn to ignore them over time.
Toretobs 4 months ago
oh, poor guy..... have you tried sedation? not worth this heartbreak.
JumpinHorses 4 months ago
waar zijn al zn mooie manen gebleven ? :(
ukkepuk1992 5 months ago
I burned a CD of Monty Roberts that fixes this problem. It's all about gaining trust. Without doping him at all. I will send it to you if you message me with your address. I thought of William and how this might help him with the farrier!
LastTree 5 months ago
I'd just Dope him and save him the trauma-
jamilaparr 6 months ago
Oh, poor William, this breaks my heart. He's been under the loving care of his new papa for 3 years and he's still scared silly of the farrier. He's shaking and trying to melt into the wall, that's fear, same as before. The trailer, the raised broom, the farrier, being alone....all the earmarks of fear & abuse & he's NOT become hateful! He just wants to be loved & serve his Papa, like any happy horse. He's going to need extra portions of love & patience & has the right Papa for the job!!!
GreenEyesSmile4U 6 months ago
Prachtig paard, wat verschrikkelijk sneu dat het zo'n trauma heeft opgelopen.. ;(
LoesAalders 6 months ago
how is william with you when trimming the hooves?
ellaelfenchanted 6 months ago
@ellaelfenchanted
I can do and have done it myself in the past years without any problems, only my own back is a big problem...
hackneysaregreat 6 months ago
@hackneysaregreat cant you study to be a farrier then? and you can do it?
JuliaStuxberg 3 months ago
@hackneysaregreat he was scared ?
thaislovehoses 2 months ago
Another comment, looking at this again: do you think William has now learned that this behavior will get him off the hook? The striking out with his front leg is unnacceptable no matter what has happened before. Just sayin'!
AnywhereButHere09 7 months ago 7
@AnywhereButHere09
No, he is just extremely afraid, showing it in this manner and not trying to hit the farrier. He is very heavily traumatised.
hackneysaregreat 7 months ago
@hackneysaregreat Have you thought about giving him some ACE? Just to calm him down? Give it about 10 minutes before the farrier comes.
Militarylove2012 4 months ago
@AnywhereButHere09 that horse is obviously very frightened. if you watch and listen to him he's evidently gone into fight mode since he cant flee. if you tried diciplining that horse in the state he's in it will only make him worse and increase his fear.
painthorselover101 6 months ago
@painthorselover101 I still believe that because he has done this for so many years, he has now learned this is what will get him out of a sticky wicket, or at least delay his "pain." He has done this in earlier vids, and no improvement. It is now I believe a learned response. Not to say good or bad, it's what he has trained others to expect of him. Horses are very very clever, and William is a brilliant beast!
AnywhereButHere09 6 months ago
@AnywhereButHere09 the owner has said that William is fine when he does his feet, but freaks out when he sees a stranger is about to do his feet. that clearly means that William is showing fear towards the stranger, not the act of hoof trimming itself. i have draft horses and have seen the brutality an impatient farrier will di