"Aura" de Philippe Hurel - Cité de la musique/avril 2008

[MYRHAH]

que peut-on faire après répons? cette super-production boulézienne, déjà datée, a sonné le glas de l'expérience contemporaine française, dominée par messiaen puis boulez. L'oeuvre ici entendue se situe dans cette lignée, bien écrite pour un ensemble largement rôdé à ce type d'écriture. C'est une musique des années quatre vingts, certes bien faite, mais déjà entendue.

[Whiskybar23]

and excuse my english, i'm french.

[Whiskybar23]

I have nothing against Ircam composers, and very interested in music investigations, but i have the impression that they all sound like the same : Hurel, Jarell, Dalbavie ... The "extremly organised chaos". Does somebody see what i mean ? (I like Manoury or Dufourt though, it has NOTHING to do with a stupid judgement on contemporary music, please don't hit me too hard, i just want to open a discussion)

[syater]

Might not the "organized chaos" of new music more accurately reflect Western understanding of reality? What do the prettified Romantic ideas have to do with our times? But I don't simply mean analyzing scores that look like studies in string theory. Unfamiliar sonorities can be refreshing on an aesthetic level. Just on a surface level there are often sculptural, textural qualities to appreciate. Also repeated hearings help sort through the "chaos".

[ODRADEK111]

actually, you are right.

composers will talk about layers, but there are layers everywhere.

bread and butter have more complexity than the "pseudo" complexity some of these composers like to advocate.

but you can say there is a new kind of sameness: noise and repetition, repetition and noise, noise and repetition, repetition and noise....ad infinitum.

it seems to me that creativity is being replaced by the use of sonic effects and "new music" is becoming rather predictable.

[alaincasaville]

This sounds to be another great piece from Hurel. Much anticipating!