As great as the movie was, did they really have to keep each drowned clone-Algier in a tank? I mean, that means you gotta keep buying a new tank every time.Shouldn't be too hard to get the corpse out and wash out the container.
I guess it was done pretty much so that the movie could keep that eerie-awesome closing shot.
The secret is obvious , unimpressive , and makes the movie become nothing just like Borden warned . The secret is that it's just a movie , but you want something more , you want to be fooled and that's why you're not looking . Christopher Nolan stated that this movie is all huge metaphor for filmaking .
I never understood, i know they both lived the same life but was the brother that lived the little girls dad? Because that was the guy who loved her mum wasnt it? Im politely trying to ask if it was only that brother that slept with her.
its awesome how Christopher Nolan scripted the movie to really be the "Pledge, the turn and the prestige"
Haha and in a lot of the comment everyone really wants to be fooled cause its just a simple as the pledge the turn and the prestige when you really think about it
@epicangle You're a dumbass. The book is structured in the exact same way; a fractal, that folds in on itself, the truth in plain sight the whole time. That's how the movie is structured; it feeds you all the info, but fools you into believing there's more. That's the whole point of the movie, idiot! This is even brought up in individual scenes!
He killed himself like a 100 times but was alive all the time. 'Do you know how frightening it is not knowing wether you're gonna be the man in the box, or the prestige?'
"Every magic trick consists of three parts, or acts" = 3 act structure of a film
the pledge = beginning, establishing the setting and the realism.
the turn = the first plot point; conflict arises
the prestige = the finale
And then at the end of Inception, you're wondering how they filmed the zero gravity sequences and the explosions without CGI, how it was all done. But of course, you're not really looking. You don't really want to know. You want to be fooled.
You know how Angier(lord cadlow) killed clones after every show? welll......where did all the bodies go? he must either have a shitload of dead bodies at his house!
The very last scene is one of the Angier clones. He performed the stunt many times and kept all his clones in this holding room that you see. So the last scene is one of clones killed in the performance.
@SkorpsProductions Fallon and borden were two twins who interchanged roles. One loved one woman, while the other loved another. Eventually I led to the death of one of them.
I get the feeling that the people making a big deal about this air bubble aren't filmmakers. People were doing the same thing with Inception, coming up with these crazy theories and metaphors, and in the end Nolan's response was just, "Well we did [insert choice here] because of technical reasons". You guys are looking too much into it.
Angier did not clone himself one last time (machine was not set up plus he didn't know Borden would be coming and would never let 2 of himself be alive at once)
Lots of people here seem to think the Angier in the tank is alive because of that bubble. You do realise that dead bodies expel gas as part of decomposition, right?
So Bale's character was the true magician throughout the film as his simplistic yet baffling display of what Angier refused to believe as a twin...made Angier search for an alternative trick which ended up killing him?
I don't totally get it myself, but nolan tells us that angier made a copy of himself each night for his trick, and then killed it cause he knew there couldn't be two of him. I guess the glass case is self-punishment for julia's death. so two of bale, 100+ of jackman.
(SPOILERS) Has anyone noticed that Christopher Nolan's films always end with exactly what their title suggests?
- Batman Begins: Duh
- The Prestige: Borden supposedly comes back from the dead, Caine's character reiterates the theme of the movie
- The Dark Knight: Batman becomes Gotham's scapegoat for all crime rather than a symbol of hope, after Harvey Dent (The other "Dark Knight") shows his true colors, and dies.
-Inception: Nolan performs Inception on the audience.
I still dont get this but let me know if im right or tell me what happened if im wrog. I think that the guy actually drownd himself because before the scene cutter was talking about how drowing was agony , so thats good evidence right there. And anyway why would that guy just be sitting there under the stage? So the real guy must have drond hiself , but that still wouldnt make much sense , so...
@Camthemovieman1 Tesla's machine makes a replica of anything put inside of it. Angier used it to make clones of himself during his shows; one would fall in the box and drown while the other appears on the balcony to present the prestige. He drowns one to get rid of the evidence, but he never knows which clone his consciousness would remain in. That's why Cutter mentions the fact that drowning is agony, because he's essentially killing his own replicated consciousness during every show.
@sparrow2202 I understand it now, the clone machine does exist for real. But I don't like that, because the movie is all about unbelievable magic trics with a real explanation. It could happen for real, a clone machine doesn't...
i think the last momment from 1:33 to 1:35 says nothing!he is just a clone of Angier who was killed becuase of the last trick!!!just like in the other boxes,if you see closely!!!but i hoped that angier would be the winner because he was a likeable character who just wanted revenge for his wife's death!And the other guy just didn't explain why he used the difficult bond and that makes him the bad guy!how dirturbing!!!good movie,a little complicated!!!
@iliakostachtsidis I think that's another nice misdirection of the movie is that Jackman's character is, at first, made to be the protagonist but then you realize by the end he is the true antagonist. Bale's character didn't intentionally kill his wife, it was an accident.
@iliakostachtsidis Yet all Borden wanted was to live out his life performing magic. Angier was the less likable one because he was so obsessed with finding out Borden's secret and surpassing him that he would hurt anybody who got in the way. He freaking let one of Borden get hanged for pete's sake and then took his daughter. I mean, Borden's revenge didn't even physically hurt Angier while Angier actually shot Borden. How is he more likable?
alrite i thought the cloning machine didt work i thought the guy who died in the glass water box is the guy who is always drunk and looks like angier from the begining of the movie... soo the cloning machine work then???? i do not really understand the very last last last ending when u see him in the glass box again soo HELP ME OUT
am i fooled or does he open his eyes in the tank an the end? i've seen the bubble but i think he also he opend his eyes. and one other thing in the movie helps you understand more: when angier first time shows Cutter (m.Cain.) the tesla coil, you first see the old blind man looking in cutters direction. but then in another frame, you see him again, but on a different position (next to the tesla coil). First time he sat some feet before it. and then in another frame you see both of them. ...
@nissepenils The whole idea of the movie is that it works like a magic trick. the truth is right in front of you, they shove it right in your face, but you are so set on wanting to be fooled that you are fooled. That's the idea of the film. It gives you all the answers, but assumes you'll be fooled because you want to be fooled; you want it to be more complicated than it actually is. Such a genius film.
@peteagassi EXACTLY. Angier's trick was so surprising that people prefer the film ending with Angier winning, THEY WANT TO BE FOOLED. That's why so many people have commented on my revelation.
@peteagassi Thank you for the explanation but my question is, how did Angier see the future? Obviously he wrote the journal that was meant for Borden to read as did Borden for Angier to read earlier in the film.
@peteagassi this is the great thing with Nolan, he engages his audience into the film and breaks through the 4th wall so he can fuck you in the head. For instance, with inception, when Cobb ignores his totem (at the end) and the scene cuts, he puts you in Cobb's shoes and you have to make a decision after the film has ended as to weather it was real or not. Which is exactly what Cobb has to do! In essence, you become the main character...the man's a genius.
at first i thought he was alive at the end, then i've read this explanation:
movies nobs.net/the-prestige-explained
and then agreed that he is dead, then i noticed the second comment in that explanation from the guy who points out that nobody saw a little but important thing in a water tank! and the line "are watching closely" is just for us viewers, who didn't watch closely from 1:33 to 1:35? what do you see?
i think that director wanted to make a balance between people thinking that angier is alive and those thinking that borden killed him. if you get your facts straight you see that both epilogues could be possible, although i like to think that angier won by that last second buzzer beater! xD
I think that if Nolan left the tank empty in the last frame it would have the same mind-f**k moment you felt at the end of inception....you would be thinking: "how the hell did Angier pull the trick off" and be forced to question everything...much like in inception... either way, Nolan is a freaking genius
@cpinto23 how? Inception was pretty strait forward as well. all he did was make it so you can say many things based on one.
I could tell, at least from the film I saw cause the Harry potter movies seem to also have some scenes missing in them in theaters since I see them once where I live and once out of state if I visit someone.
anyway in what I saw the top was going to fall as it began to wobble. so it's ether real or a dream he made real by forcing the top to stop spinning.
and btw no it wouldn't have been a mind fuck cause they told you already from the dialogue before showing the tank he was making copies of himself. and their was an entire scene where they showed the machine was a clone machine. If he didn't show that bit at the end it wouldn't matter just like Inception, and if Nolan took out the scenes that showed the twist it would make no Sense based on the rest of the movie being about finding out the other guy's trick.
I'll agree Nolan's good but he has these too bad quirks that kinda make him annoying. One is that like Tim Burton he seems to like to use the same actors, which I can forgive since Mel Brooks did it too and it doesn't hurt the films. but the second is that he seems to leave these endings that make you question the whole dang movie. I like this and dark Knight the best because he doesn't do that in these two.
@BrokenFWD Christian Bale and Micheal Caine are both very good actors who take their jobs seriously just like nolan. Which sane director wouldn't use them again?
Precisely the point ! Nolan has NO REASON to stop Angier from living. He did so in the book after all and the book inspired Nolan.
The film is all about the decietful nature of magic AND ALSO the prestige itself|:Angier bringing himself back, that ending.
Likewise, Inception was all about the contagious nature of ideas (you probably left the cinema wondering if you were in a dream) AND ALSO whether Cobb was still dreaming.
@hackstermatrix I did, but something did feel off and someone else explained the problem I had to me so on the second viewing you can see he isn't in a dream anyway.
@hackstermatrix If you'd read any interviews you would've realized that the first thing they did was throw everything in the book out and then started from scratch to create their own take on the story. This isn't meant to be a completely faithful adaptation. If the bubble was an easter egg then it would've come from his mouth to imply he's breathing.
Filmmakers can't control everything. It's expensive to reshoot and edit with visual effects, and the bubble is unnoticeable so they let it pass.
@hackstermatrix Also, Angier has to stop living because he's done horrible things and has to pay a price. That's reason enough. Borden gets to be free of his double life because he didn't do anything as horrible, he was just dedicated to his magic.
@citifranco The man has clothes on... isnt it possible that he has something in his clothes that reacts with water. The bubble is so small and doesnt come off his mouth
@hackstermatrix the person on the tank is not angier. he's a person look like him (clone). he's the one who dead when alfred saw him. so every time that angier trick do, every clone of him died.
@Brambite If you have watched Memento and Inception( same director ) you'll know that they end controversially. This is no different. Furthermore he survived in the book.
Allow me to explain how he could have in the film:
@hackstermatrix a glass of water will have bubbles drift from the bottom all the time. A dead body releases decomposition gasses all the time. While the character may have survived in the book he did not in the movie things change. The machine was not set up to clone him again. He didn't know borden was coming so there would be no reason for him to clone himself. Finally he was afraid of there being 2 of him it was against his character to make a back up of himself.
@hackstermatrix First of all, the air bubble came from his clothing, so it's obviously just an air pocket trapped somewhere underneath his clothes. Second, if he's alive in the tank then he's not going to be for much longer.
And it's unnoticeable because it isn't intentional. There is a ton of deceit in this film but there's always an emphasis on it. They emphasize that there's something fishy about Borden, and at the end they reveal he's a twin. You're looking too much into it.
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As great as the movie was, did they really have to keep each drowned clone-Algier in a tank? I mean, that means you gotta keep buying a new tank every time.Shouldn't be too hard to get the corpse out and wash out the container.
I guess it was done pretty much so that the movie could keep that eerie-awesome closing shot.
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Clamhead939 2 days ago
before i saw the ending i was like "i feel sorry for whoever play bernard fallon, they never really showed him and only got 1 line" XD
TheReverend29 1 week ago
Are you watching closely?
TheTeenageArtist 3 weeks ago
I think that Christian Bale could grow a mustache AND THEN HE COULD BE NIGEL MANSELL.
Ropponmatsu2 1 month ago
O, so he was still alive! Ok. But weird how he stayed in the water the whole time.
PercyJackson009 1 month ago
@PercyJackson009 He didn't, he died. Sara's father survived, and the one that died was a double, or a twin.
DenKulesteSomFins 1 month ago
@DenKulesteSomFins A Twin :)
SpeedeyFreaks 2 weeks ago
@SpeedeyFreaks I ment that he was a twin, and a double, they are identical exteriorly
DenKulesteSomFins 2 weeks ago
@DeLaSoleil and he doesn't need to know them anyway. That's the whole point, Bordon doesn't care about it, he's not obssesed like Angier.
DxSteve 1 month ago
I think Caine would make a good Obi Wan Kenobi. Just sayin'.
Someguy029 1 month ago
My first thought in this movie: Batman vs. Wolverine
lbsacris 2 months ago 8
I thought I had seen this movie and it ended well, but I thought it was the movie named "the illusionist", but this on also is a very beautiful movie
JTimbo007 2 months ago
The secret is obvious , unimpressive , and makes the movie become nothing just like Borden warned . The secret is that it's just a movie , but you want something more , you want to be fooled and that's why you're not looking . Christopher Nolan stated that this movie is all huge metaphor for filmaking .
haibane13 3 months ago
i love this monologue!
Asketen 3 months ago
I never understood, i know they both lived the same life but was the brother that lived the little girls dad? Because that was the guy who loved her mum wasnt it? Im politely trying to ask if it was only that brother that slept with her.
This film was a total mind****
e7l13 4 months ago
the only thing that would have made this movie better is if the non-clone version of Hugh jackmans character lived
TheJasonbourne777 4 months ago
its awesome how Christopher Nolan scripted the movie to really be the "Pledge, the turn and the prestige"
Haha and in a lot of the comment everyone really wants to be fooled cause its just a simple as the pledge the turn and the prestige when you really think about it
TheJasonbourne777 4 months ago
@epicangle You're a dumbass. The book is structured in the exact same way; a fractal, that folds in on itself, the truth in plain sight the whole time. That's how the movie is structured; it feeds you all the info, but fools you into believing there's more. That's the whole point of the movie, idiot! This is even brought up in individual scenes!
peteagassi 5 months ago
fucking magical inception.. all a dream
dannyboyemo 5 months ago
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some people call this the best movie
I call that an understatement
zupergozer 5 months ago
You want to be fooled.
livewonderland 6 months ago 34
He killed himself like a 100 times but was alive all the time. 'Do you know how frightening it is not knowing wether you're gonna be the man in the box, or the prestige?'
He said something like that... Fucked my mind lol
NickBolland 6 months ago 4
love that monologue by michael caine...fucking brilliant
jordyboy321 7 months ago 3
i was the one who disliked it
libertines24 7 months ago
@libertines24
you bitch....
just kidding (:P
LanesMedia 7 months ago
"Every magic trick consists of three parts, or acts" = 3 act structure of a film
the pledge = beginning, establishing the setting and the realism.
the turn = the first plot point; conflict arises
the prestige = the finale
And then at the end of Inception, you're wondering how they filmed the zero gravity sequences and the explosions without CGI, how it was all done. But of course, you're not really looking. You don't really want to know. You want to be fooled.
0180917 8 months ago 6
@0180917 But, equally this film is played partialy out os sequence.
halfbreed1426 8 months ago
god that gives me chills.. chris nolan youre a genius
travisandtyt2121 8 months ago
@TheNewMoon333 yeah you see what they did there? Clever.
adamskiboy528491 8 months ago
you know what i find funny.
You know how Angier(lord cadlow) killed clones after every show? welll......where did all the bodies go? he must either have a shitload of dead bodies at his house!
JusticeRetroHunter 9 months ago
@JusticeRetroHunter What do you mean haha you can see all the tanks with dead bodies at 0:20 , the whole room is filled with them
aftrFX 8 months ago
@JusticeRetroHunter wtf!! dont you see that in the end theres a room which is full of those dead bodies!!
1Minute60Seconds 7 months ago
@UndercoverCracker Lol, thanks
adamskiboy528491 9 months ago
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adamskiboy528491 9 months ago
@adamskiboy528491 No that would have been stupid. lol
UndercoverCracker 9 months ago
looks like Batman and Alfred's relationship is so strong it went through another moive lol
shogun1523 9 months ago 64
@shogun1523 i never realised that both actors were in batman.......
but yeh, i agree with you
rohan1234524 5 months ago
@shogun1523 That or Christopher Nolan likes using the exact same actors in every single movie he makes lol
Thedarkside02 2 months ago
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RaveSensation 10 months ago
Can someone explain the very end with him in the tank? Does it mean he is alive? It was the one thing i never quite understood.
TheNewMoon333 10 months ago 3
@TheNewMoon333
Just found out.
The very last scene is one of the Angier clones. He performed the stunt many times and kept all his clones in this holding room that you see. So the last scene is one of clones killed in the performance.
RaveSensation 10 months ago
@TheNewMoon333
It's just an indication that there might be a clone of Angier that is still alive.
windowsVD 9 months ago
1:16 Now you know why Nolan cited the intensity in Bale's eyes to convincingly portray the Batman
conwayandwhitmanman 11 months ago
Fallon was bale's clone right?
otherwise the movie makes no sense at all.
SkorpsProductions 11 months ago
@SkorpsProductions Fallon and borden were two twins who interchanged roles. One loved one woman, while the other loved another. Eventually I led to the death of one of them.
sunset261 11 months ago
@SkorpsProductions Fallon was Bale's twin brother, not clone.
The90slim90 1 month ago
I get the feeling that the people making a big deal about this air bubble aren't filmmakers. People were doing the same thing with Inception, coming up with these crazy theories and metaphors, and in the end Nolan's response was just, "Well we did [insert choice here] because of technical reasons". You guys are looking too much into it.
ElmoPansy 11 months ago
Angier did not survive
Angier did not use a double
Angier did not clone himself one last time (machine was not set up plus he didn't know Borden would be coming and would never let 2 of himself be alive at once)
Borden is not a clone
anything else people need cleared up?
demiser21 1 year ago
@demiser21 yes, your not making any sense.
hackstermatrix 1 year ago
Lots of people here seem to think the Angier in the tank is alive because of that bubble. You do realise that dead bodies expel gas as part of decomposition, right?
amberisabella 1 year ago
Caine and Bale performances were amazing. by they way, all of the people above me, please watch the film again and stop asking silly questions!
LuisRamirez666 1 year ago
Caine and Bale performances were amazing
LuisRamirez666 1 year ago
Liked sherlock holmes more ... more realistic !!
cobrafazea 1 year ago
FUCKIN BRILLIANT FILM!!
jordyboy321 1 year ago
So Bale's character was the true magician throughout the film as his simplistic yet baffling display of what Angier refused to believe as a twin...made Angier search for an alternative trick which ended up killing him?
aquaguy322 1 year ago
@pgaguy73
I don't totally get it myself, but nolan tells us that angier made a copy of himself each night for his trick, and then killed it cause he knew there couldn't be two of him. I guess the glass case is self-punishment for julia's death. so two of bale, 100+ of jackman.
banananer16 1 year ago
(SPOILERS) Has anyone noticed that Christopher Nolan's films always end with exactly what their title suggests?
- Batman Begins: Duh
- The Prestige: Borden supposedly comes back from the dead, Caine's character reiterates the theme of the movie
- The Dark Knight: Batman becomes Gotham's scapegoat for all crime rather than a symbol of hope, after Harvey Dent (The other "Dark Knight") shows his true colors, and dies.
-Inception: Nolan performs Inception on the audience.
chrisproxxx 1 year ago
@chrisproxxx Memento? Insomnia? The Following?
No.....all Nolan films don't end with exactly what their title suggests....
KayWildcat 1 year ago
I still dont get this but let me know if im right or tell me what happened if im wrog. I think that the guy actually drownd himself because before the scene cutter was talking about how drowing was agony , so thats good evidence right there. And anyway why would that guy just be sitting there under the stage? So the real guy must have drond hiself , but that still wouldnt make much sense , so...
Camthemovieman1 1 year ago
@Camthemovieman1 Tesla's machine makes a replica of anything put inside of it. Angier used it to make clones of himself during his shows; one would fall in the box and drown while the other appears on the balcony to present the prestige. He drowns one to get rid of the evidence, but he never knows which clone his consciousness would remain in. That's why Cutter mentions the fact that drowning is agony, because he's essentially killing his own replicated consciousness during every show.
aznxkigga 1 year ago
Christopher Nolan is just fooling us. The film is now 4 years old and I have never seen a good explanation of the film. So I figured, there is none..
olmowie 1 year ago
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@olmowie what are you talking about ? it is very logical. once you have seen it 2 or 3 times, it is pretty clear.
sparrow2202 1 year ago
@olmowie what are you talking about ? the film is very logic. once you have seen it 2 or 3 times, it becomes clear...what didn't you understand ?
sparrow2202 1 year ago
@sparrow2202 I understand it now, the clone machine does exist for real. But I don't like that, because the movie is all about unbelievable magic trics with a real explanation. It could happen for real, a clone machine doesn't...
olmowie 11 months ago
@olmowie Clone machines do exist irl...
LobsterPotsticker 11 months ago
@olmowie yeah i know what you mean.
sparrow2202 10 months ago
I have the biggest crush on Christian Bale because of this film!!
kelkatz93 1 year ago
i think the last momment from 1:33 to 1:35 says nothing!he is just a clone of Angier who was killed becuase of the last trick!!!just like in the other boxes,if you see closely!!!but i hoped that angier would be the winner because he was a likeable character who just wanted revenge for his wife's death!And the other guy just didn't explain why he used the difficult bond and that makes him the bad guy!how dirturbing!!!good movie,a little complicated!!!
iliakostachtsidis 1 year ago
@iliakostachtsidis I think that's another nice misdirection of the movie is that Jackman's character is, at first, made to be the protagonist but then you realize by the end he is the true antagonist. Bale's character didn't intentionally kill his wife, it was an accident.
ChrisGunner 1 year ago
@ChrisGunner There was no protagonist/antagonist.
Madfoot713 1 year ago
@iliakostachtsidis Yet all Borden wanted was to live out his life performing magic. Angier was the less likable one because he was so obsessed with finding out Borden's secret and surpassing him that he would hurt anybody who got in the way. He freaking let one of Borden get hanged for pete's sake and then took his daughter. I mean, Borden's revenge didn't even physically hurt Angier while Angier actually shot Borden. How is he more likable?
sunset261 11 months ago
that guy at 0:38 is in the old version of mary poppins
trust me
TheMASDrummer 1 year ago
@TheMASDrummer Um no, Michael Caine was never in Mary Poppins.
sunset261 11 months ago
@sunset261
ok
TheMASDrummer 11 months ago
@sunset261
ok. but i mean the old man. is that michael caine?
TheMASDrummer 11 months ago
@TheMASDrummer Yes.
sunset261 11 months ago
@sunset261
ok
sorry
TheMASDrummer 11 months ago
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alrite i thought the cloning machine didt work i thought the guy who died in the glass water box is the guy who is always drunk and looks like angier from the begining of the movie... soo the cloning machine work then???? i do not really understand the very last last last ending when u see him in the glass box again soo HELP ME OUT
pgaguy73 1 year ago
Yo no tengo un hermano, tengo un hermano gemelo.
HansRoht 1 year ago
such a good film
BROKENHOUSEFILMS 1 year ago
this meens that they are clones but can't notice it cause they are both blind. anybody seen this too?
nissepenils 1 year ago
am i fooled or does he open his eyes in the tank an the end? i've seen the bubble but i think he also he opend his eyes. and one other thing in the movie helps you understand more: when angier first time shows Cutter (m.Cain.) the tesla coil, you first see the old blind man looking in cutters direction. but then in another frame, you see him again, but on a different position (next to the tesla coil). First time he sat some feet before it. and then in another frame you see both of them. ...
nissepenils 1 year ago
@nissepenils The whole idea of the movie is that it works like a magic trick. the truth is right in front of you, they shove it right in your face, but you are so set on wanting to be fooled that you are fooled. That's the idea of the film. It gives you all the answers, but assumes you'll be fooled because you want to be fooled; you want it to be more complicated than it actually is. Such a genius film.
peteagassi 1 year ago 99
@peteagassi EXACTLY. Angier's trick was so surprising that people prefer the film ending with Angier winning, THEY WANT TO BE FOOLED. That's why so many people have commented on my revelation.
hackstermatrix 1 year ago
@peteagassi Thank you for the explanation but my question is, how did Angier see the future? Obviously he wrote the journal that was meant for Borden to read as did Borden for Angier to read earlier in the film.
teaukeri7 11 months ago
@peteagassi the same is with Inception
i wonder how much the suicidal count had risen after it's release
skakaleec 9 months ago
@peteagassi this is the great thing with Nolan, he engages his audience into the film and breaks through the 4th wall so he can fuck you in the head. For instance, with inception, when Cobb ignores his totem (at the end) and the scene cuts, he puts you in Cobb's shoes and you have to make a decision after the film has ended as to weather it was real or not. Which is exactly what Cobb has to do! In essence, you become the main character...the man's a genius.
nero198803 4 months ago
@nissepenils
He got his eyes opened allready...
Citrus3000 1 year ago
at first i thought he was alive at the end, then i've read this explanation:
movies nobs.net/the-prestige-explained
and then agreed that he is dead, then i noticed the second comment in that explanation from the guy who points out that nobody saw a little but important thing in a water tank! and the line "are watching closely" is just for us viewers, who didn't watch closely from 1:33 to 1:35? what do you see?
everyoneSalegend 1 year ago
@everyoneSalegend
I see nothing really special!
Citrus3000 1 year ago
i think that director wanted to make a balance between people thinking that angier is alive and those thinking that borden killed him. if you get your facts straight you see that both epilogues could be possible, although i like to think that angier won by that last second buzzer beater! xD
everyoneSalegend 1 year ago
I think that if Nolan left the tank empty in the last frame it would have the same mind-f**k moment you felt at the end of inception....you would be thinking: "how the hell did Angier pull the trick off" and be forced to question everything...much like in inception... either way, Nolan is a freaking genius
cpinto23 1 year ago
@cpinto23 how? Inception was pretty strait forward as well. all he did was make it so you can say many things based on one.
I could tell, at least from the film I saw cause the Harry potter movies seem to also have some scenes missing in them in theaters since I see them once where I live and once out of state if I visit someone.
anyway in what I saw the top was going to fall as it began to wobble. so it's ether real or a dream he made real by forcing the top to stop spinning.
BrokenFWD 1 year ago
and btw no it wouldn't have been a mind fuck cause they told you already from the dialogue before showing the tank he was making copies of himself. and their was an entire scene where they showed the machine was a clone machine. If he didn't show that bit at the end it wouldn't matter just like Inception, and if Nolan took out the scenes that showed the twist it would make no Sense based on the rest of the movie being about finding out the other guy's trick.
BrokenFWD 1 year ago
I'll agree Nolan's good but he has these too bad quirks that kinda make him annoying. One is that like Tim Burton he seems to like to use the same actors, which I can forgive since Mel Brooks did it too and it doesn't hurt the films. but the second is that he seems to leave these endings that make you question the whole dang movie. I like this and dark Knight the best because he doesn't do that in these two.
BrokenFWD 1 year ago
@BrokenFWD what about memento? That was pretty straightforward too.
harryfosho 1 year ago
@harryfosho have yet to see that one unfortunatly
BrokenFWD 1 year ago
@BrokenFWD Christian Bale and Micheal Caine are both very good actors who take their jobs seriously just like nolan. Which sane director wouldn't use them again?
hackstermatrix 1 year ago
@BrokenFWD
Precisely the point ! Nolan has NO REASON to stop Angier from living. He did so in the book after all and the book inspired Nolan.
The film is all about the decietful nature of magic AND ALSO the prestige itself|:Angier bringing himself back, that ending.
Likewise, Inception was all about the contagious nature of ideas (you probably left the cinema wondering if you were in a dream) AND ALSO whether Cobb was still dreaming.
hackstermatrix 1 year ago
@hackstermatrix I did, but something did feel off and someone else explained the problem I had to me so on the second viewing you can see he isn't in a dream anyway.
BrokenFWD 1 year ago
@hackstermatrix If you'd read any interviews you would've realized that the first thing they did was throw everything in the book out and then started from scratch to create their own take on the story. This isn't meant to be a completely faithful adaptation. If the bubble was an easter egg then it would've come from his mouth to imply he's breathing.
Filmmakers can't control everything. It's expensive to reshoot and edit with visual effects, and the bubble is unnoticeable so they let it pass.
ElmoPansy 11 months ago
@hackstermatrix Also, Angier has to stop living because he's done horrible things and has to pay a price. That's reason enough. Borden gets to be free of his double life because he didn't do anything as horrible, he was just dedicated to his magic.
ElmoPansy 11 months ago
This has practically the same ending as Inception (you can only understand after seeing it) :)
arrogancy 1 year ago
@arrogancy what are you talking about! they are completley different
KayWildcat 1 year ago
@KayWildcat did you even read what he said?
hackstermatrix 1 year ago
@hackstermatrix Yes I did.....did you?
KayWildcat 1 year ago
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hackstermatrix 1 year ago
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Bless you for uploading a HD version. Now people can see the bubbles in the tank and know Angier survived! :)
hackstermatrix 1 year ago
@hackstermatrix well the bubble doesnt come out of his mouth. Are you saying he farted under water?
citifranco 1 year ago 27
@citifranco no but if you read the book you'd be sure it meant he survived. he could have some type of contraption from tesla for underwater breath
hackstermatrix 1 year ago
@citifranco p.s. dead people don't fart
hackstermatrix 1 year ago
@hackstermatrix well thats exaclty my point, isn't it??
citifranco 1 year ago
@citifranco that would mean the man in the tank is alive and therefore Angier or his clone, surviving.
hackstermatrix 1 year ago
@citifranco This is why I love reading youtube comments.
dancerchic77 8 months ago
@citifranco The man has clothes on... isnt it possible that he has something in his clothes that reacts with water. The bubble is so small and doesnt come off his mouth
1Minute60Seconds 7 months ago
@hackstermatrix the person on the tank is not angier. he's a person look like him (clone). he's the one who dead when alfred saw him. so every time that angier trick do, every clone of him died.
Brambite 1 year ago
@Brambite If you have watched Memento and Inception( same director ) you'll know that they end controversially. This is no different. Furthermore he survived in the book.
Allow me to explain how he could have in the film:
hackstermatrix 1 year ago
@Brambite
Angier eventually figured out Alfred's trick and stages his death so that Alfred will leave him forever
( like in the book.) How he did it in the movie:
1.Went to clone himself (while leading Alfred to the room).
2.Clones himself before Alfred comes in( machine is in the same room.
3.Either he or his clone get shot and Alfred leaves.
4.Either he or his clone survive (in the tank).
hackstermatrix 1 year ago
@hackstermatrix
I don't think he survived in the tank.
windowsVD 1 year ago
@windowsVD he survived in the book and there's no other logical reason for the bubbles.
hackstermatrix 1 year ago
@hackstermatrix a glass of water will have bubbles drift from the bottom all the time. A dead body releases decomposition gasses all the time. While the character may have survived in the book he did not in the movie things change. The machine was not set up to clone him again. He didn't know borden was coming so there would be no reason for him to clone himself. Finally he was afraid of there being 2 of him it was against his character to make a back up of himself.
demiser21 1 year ago
@demiser21 Y
Yes, dead body's decompose, so you're saying Hugh jackman was killed in the making of the movie?
No the bubble is an easter egg. Imagine if Nolan directed harry Potter and Harry died at the end.
So why make it so unnoticable? The whole film is all about deciet, just like the book it's about the prestige.
hackstermatrix 1 year ago
@hackstermatrix First of all, the air bubble came from his clothing, so it's obviously just an air pocket trapped somewhere underneath his clothes. Second, if he's alive in the tank then he's not going to be for much longer.
And it's unnoticeable because it isn't intentional. There is a ton of deceit in this film but there's always an emphasis on it. They emphasize that there's something fishy about Borden, and at the end they reveal he's a twin. You're looking too much into it.
ElmoPansy 11 months ago
THE BEST MOVIE!
emacerutube 1 year ago