Atheist Solution to Ray Comfort's Version of Darwin's "Origin of Species"

[MrJohnnyrace]

The Buy Bull has soft pages perfect for the average houses bathroom tissue. The Quaran is softer and desired by more asses.

[TheAbyrwalg]

It's unfair to compare hijacking of "Origin of Species" (with accusations of racism and such), and a good introduction to "Bible". I really don't understand why on earth these introductions for "Bible" are still not mandatory.

[MrJohnnyrace]

We should have an anual burning of Comforts book.

[GuitarRocker2008]

you make a very good point and we need mroe people like you putting things like this into proper perspective so we can reach a time where all people can be peaceful with eachother along with their beliefs though my only problem being that it assumes that the origin of species is an atheist text, though this is probably unconcious also i believe we shouldn't do as you suggest though of course i know thats not the point anyway, good job keep them coming.

[Ematched]

FYI, everyone, Comfort's edition of Origin is missing an entire chapter.

Ripping out the intro doesn't do much to restore the text. The "by the creator" is still in the last paragraph (as in all but the actual first edition of Origin), reflecting how Darwin sucumbed to pressure from religious people.

Comfort's book is wrong in more ways than tacking on the intro.

Some stooge was kind enough to hand me a free copy at my university. I was kind enough to not punch him in the face.

[LogicalThinker667]

fuck really you can get them for free

damn i wasted 8 bucks on the damn KJV

[MrXalexer]

No. I want to add a book to the free bible I am going to get. It's going to be called the Whole Bible according to Steven.

[Roper122]

Good idea.. I like it.

[mameliwo]

I know I probably deserve a spanking for this but I haven't read Origin of Species (yet)...it's always checked out when I think to get it from the library, effing popular book!!! Anyway...I think their stupid plan will backfire in the long run. Compare any well written and thought provoking book to the bible...slam dunk anyone? Shit, compare any cutesy well illustrated children's book to the bible! I just don't get how anyone can read it and not become an atheist.

[situated]

Great idea!!! I think this should be done. In fact i may consider doing it myself if given an opportunity. I love the video and the part at the end that says pet the cat, you'll feel better is awesome too.  Cats are sweet!

[TheTruePooka]

Those books have all mysteriously disappeared, I'll bet.

I suspect they've been locked in a warehouse, placed in an unmarked box, next to the Ark of the Covenant.

One day, they may turn up.

heh heh, glad you like the cat. The cat likes being liked!

[ishepard2]

Great idea! I'm glad to see you're willing to put the word of God in the hands of people! The only difference I could see here is that the text inside of the Bible actually would disprove the content of your foreward. In Ray's book, it's exactly the opposite.

I really like your idea and I can't wait to see this in action!

[TheTruePooka]

Heh heh... right.

I'm letting all of Ray's visiting Christians know;

Don't worry; I'm going to do a video in the next few days that will reduce Mr. Comfort to a senseless, gibbering, pleading massive plotoplasm!!!

My position will be irrefutable.

(Putting on my tap shoes and tossing out some sand)

Challenge!!!!

[RockSmithStudio]

i've thought of doing this, but i love how you are doing this! Usually the Bible has a blank page before the beggining. Just write how the Bible is crap there.

[RockSmithStudio]

are you sure of that? have you ever read the whole Bible and read Origin of Species, the Blind Watchmaker, the God Delusion, and The Greatest Show on Earth? The Bible is very cruel when you read chapters other than Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

[TheTruePooka]

I have found that most Christians pick and choose verse according to what they need at the moment and develop hysterical amnesia as to the rest.

It makes it a bit difficult to argue the bible with them.

That, plus many either don't read the whole bible, or do and simply don't understand what they're reading.

[adzug]

well, how many are handling snakes these days? talkin bout pick n choose.

[SSTTEEAALLTTHH]

@RockSmithStudio

Even those chapters are cruel

[RainsSong]

Wow-- you really missed that point, didnt you?

[TheTruePooka]

Who missed what point? I think a comment or two got removed. Perhaps if you elaborate?

[Hiddeknight0]

Oh no! Quick! This man.. he's been... BRAINWASHED!

Someone get a towel, QUICK! Maybe we can dry it off, if it's not too late!

[MrWretched88]

I think it's a great idea to get more Bibles and gospel tracts into the hands of as many people as possible. It won't be hard to sort the fact from the fiction if you read it with an open mind and a humble heart. Put all the fiction inside that you like, just don't dilute the original text. Ray didn't.

[TheTruePooka]

Perhaps. I have no opinion on his interpretation of the bible. As I'm not familiar with it.

I, however, have grown up with these books and read them extensively. I know exactly what these books are; and they are not the inerrant, literal word of a god.

[foveostag]

I love it! Atheists handing out bibles. You know it makes absolutely no difference what you write in the front of the bible. It is what's inside it that changes people. I think it would be great for atheists to get unused bibles and put their little stickers in the front and get them into the hands of people. I have read some nonesense in bible prefaces, so what! Most folks never read what is in the front - they read what is important. Upset Christians? I think not!

[TheTruePooka]

Actually, if Christians went into a church and found such stickers in the bibles they pulled from the pews...? I'd be willing to bet good money on what they reaction would be.

ALL knowledge changes people. The bible is no exception to this rule.

Unfortunately, it seems many (most?)Christians take the knowledge in the bibles and end up changing for the worse.

Ray Comfort is a classic example of this.

[Drmofothegreat]

lol lovin' how every post i made gets a thumbs down.

faggots seein' i'm better than them so they be hatin'

keep it up losers.

[AngryWomble]

How about you play nice and lay off the insults. So far all that's been done is down thumbing, it's one of the things that can happen on this site. You'll just have to man it up and live with it, hell i do if my comments are down thumbed or someone disagrees with them in a reply.

[Drmofothegreat]

play nice, what's the fun in that?

[AngryWomble]

Well, we play nice with each other and we can have a civil exchange of posts and possibly learn something about each other.

If you don't then the exchange spirals into a mud flinging fest in which the sensible people pull out and you end up being looked at with pity.

[TheTruePooka]

Wibble!

Hey, youtube actually deigned to let me actually comment on my own video. Wondr if that'll change when I navigate away from the page. Thanks for holding down the fort. :->

[AngryWomble]

No worries dude :) I still need to get to replying to this guys most recent stuff. It's further down if you wanted to have a go yourself. There's some deffinitions of belief.

[Cookey77]

Man, that was boring.

[home4kb]

Atheist,

This is a great idea. You should all do this. Hand out as many Bibles as you can! It would not take long to glue the text in the front cover. You can purchase Bibles very inexpensive on line. If every atheist bought just one Bible and gave out one, imagine how many people you could reach!

[TheTruePooka]

Heh heh... that's all right.

I've noticed that most users have skipped the second half of the video where I suggest that the whole thing is rather silly, and the best response is to just cut Mr. Comfort's intro out of "Origins of Species".

Keep the Darwin, toss out the intro.

Simple solution.

[brandtdary]

Great idea! I would love for atheists to start handing out Bibles or Ray Comfort books.

[AngryWomble]

As i understand it there may be some alterations in the body of the text too!

[TheRedeemedMessenger]

Please do this! The more people who get a Bible and read it the better! Thank you TheTruePooka for your service to God.

[TheTruePooka]

Your welcome. I've got no problem with people reading the bible. I just re-read Jeremiah last night.

Lots of chills and thrills. Better than reading Stephen King.

Well, except the Gunslinger Series. That's an awesome series. It'd be a tossup for me.

[lambsev]

It would be interesting if the atheist community could raise enough money to actually print Bibles with some sort of an introduction of their own authorship...

This copy and paste is not likely to go very far...

[TheTruePooka]

Heh heh, yeah, I know. But I figured many atheists are broke college students, so I came up with the cheapest alternative. :-)

[lambsev]

either way the Word goes forth...

(...thus) saith the LORD. :  11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. Isaiah 55

[Musicmonk84]

Ray Comfort thinks this a good idea too, actually. He suggested on his recent blog at Atheist Central.

[TheTruePooka]

Thanks for the heads up. I'll check it out. You mean the rip out the intro, or the paste introductions into the bible?

[Musicmonk84]

I dunno. He just links to this video.

[DissentFromDayOne]

The "Anyone Here Need a Bible" picture is ironic, because we never landed on the moon (google around....NASA photos where the shadows fall at right-angles.) And you believe the lunar rover fit in the lunar module via a "suitcase?" ROFL.

Atheism is a religion. It is the religion that has FAITH that there is no God (cannot prove otherwise, so it takes FAITH).

The religion of Evolution (more FAITH) is as easy to de-bunk as a moonwalk if you still have a brain left from fluoride & flu shots.

[TheTruePooka]

Well... I don't bother with flu shots because I don't get sick. And I've never drunk tap water so I don't have to worry about fluoride.

Anyone who makes that claim is making a faith based claim (is no God).

However, that's not how it is actually defined. I define atheism properly in my "Atheism is a religion" video.

The moon landing? (shrug) don't see how it matters anymore.

Evolution? eh... there's like 10,000 youtubers you could probably have a better fight with than me over that.

[plaparen]

Your the dumbest shit.

I "belive" in evolution the same way that I belive in gravity.

And prove to me that there is a god.

Do it.

Now.

[AngryWomble]

Atheist is a religion as much as bald is a hair colour.

[Drmofothegreat]

I'll except atheism as a religion, cause do we not believe the greatest minds in science will answer our questions truthfully ad adjust physics models to fit anomalies in what is observed and trust them to try to preserve and further the human race?

but yes you are right i your post.

sorry for missing letters here and there, my keyboard was damaged when i moved, afew keys don't want to respond 100% o the time.

[AngryWomble]

Atheism is not a religion though. Atheists can most accuratly be described as not having a belief in god(s) not as people that believe there is no god. Maybe my earlier post was not clear.

IF atheism is a religion, then bald MUST be a hair colour. As both of those examples have the same relationship as each other.

[Drmofothegreat]

well you need a definition of religion first, which there are many. sure it's from wiki, but the earliest was in Johnson's Dictionary, which calls it "a system of faith and worship". sure there is no system of worship but do we not have faith in science to help further mankind? maybe that is just my optimism though. another is Clifford Geertz's as a "cultural system" which is quite vague but couldn't a culture of atheists be looked upon as a religion?

but yes under most definitions it's not.

[Drmofothegreat]

not really disagreeing with you, just i'm willing to except atheism as religion under certain definitions of religion. also i want that damn tax exemption ;-)

i just never liked that argument that atheism is a religion as much as bald is a hair color.

[TheTruePooka]

Tax Exemptions are awesome. We'll have to work on that. Why should the Christians get all the free cash in America? ;->

Nothing like a Rolls Royce brought with Religious Tax Exempt money to make you feel like you're doing some good, eh?

[Drmofothegreat]

then join me in an atheism as religion movement. we can spread(sell) knowledge and you could get a Rolls Royce and i could get a Ducati hypermotard to show we have been spreading the good word ;-)

you could be the Pope of Atheism since you are more well spoken than I. XD

[AngryWomble]

Some of what you've said is, to be honest, confusing and appears to be more of a ramble.

There is no faith in science, lets see if i can help you to understand that. Do you believe in Gravity? Do you have faith that each time you trip up that you will travel towards the ground and not the sky?

We don't need to believe in gravity, we have data from experiments to confirm that gravity works. Science doesn't need us to believe in it to work, it just works. Science is our way of (cont)

[AngryWomble]

understanding what goes on around us. Hence the Theory of Gravity is our best approximation of how it works.

Faith requires acceptance without evidence, sciecne requires evidence and data, it also requires that the tests can be repeated.

Now this may be problematic for you to take in, i'd like to think that it isn't problematic. But there is no need for accepting science without evidence, to paraphrase Jerry Maguire 'show me the evidence'. Faith is blinde, science is not.

[Drmofothegreat]

yes i know, i took a pill so i may have been quite unclear, i meant faith in scientists to help to further mankind and our understanding of the universe(well that second one is their job not faith), not faith in gravity or evolution or any other scientific theories. just stating that under certain definitions(ie Clifford Geertz's) and circumstances atheism could be a religion.

cont.

[Drmofothegreat]

dictionary . com has

1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies,(blahblah)

2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons

under definition 2 couldn't atheism be counted don't a number or people have a lack of belief in a god?

[TheTruePooka]

No.

At least, not in the case of just straight forward;

"Atheist."

It would be like attempting to claim that all people who don't watch baseball are practicing the belief of "Not watching baseball".

Now, if those people who didn't watch baseball also had beliefs about baseball being a dangerous, stupid sport and should thus be banned; THAT would be a belief system that can be defined in example two.

[Drmofothegreat]

lol leave it to a christian to be deluded enough to think the moon lading is fake, evolution is a religion and fluoride(in the minute amount in tap water) and flu shots are harmful. let me guess vaccinations make kids autistic, Obama is a muslim(and the Antichrist) and 9/11 was a inside job? or was 9/11 real cause conveniently enough it was those damn heathen muslims(who you probably believe are polytheistic).

it seems god kills more braincells than straight fluoride(it gets you higher though).

[entrsnm3]

As a Bible-believing Christian, I think that's a great idea. It'll give people a chance to read both sides of the issue. Heck, i'd say pass out a bound-volume of "The God Delusion" and The Bible.

[TheTruePooka]

I would not be opposed to that. If a person reads both with an open mind and choses to remain a person of faith, I can respect that.

[Drmofothegreat]

if i had enough money i'd do that, my family is very good friends with an owner of a book bindery. and my father and i have also worked for years there with him before we moved out of state, well him several years, i was too young to legally work at the time but when i stayed home from school i went there and did some work sometimes.

[727Phoenix]

Why the hell didn't I think of that?! Seriously, I think I really will go around with copies of your bible intro and rubber cement, looking for bibles everywhere!!! (btw, do you have a text for anybody to copy and paste?)

[TheTruePooka]

Wow, I can finally comment in this video. Bloody youtube beta. Glitches are driving me insane!

If you'd like, I can toss the text into a file and e-mail it as an attachment. It would be lolish if people started doing this. :->

[EternalAlert]

I say we need to get the skeptic's annotated bible and qu'ran published and start handing those out.

[TheTruePooka]

This is not a bad idea. One of the biggest advantages Christianity has is that you can get a bible, just about anywhere, for free.

Perhaps an organization will come into being that will support a fund for such purposes.

Imagine if "The God Delusion" was handed out free, anywhere in the world...

[glyderau]

Sometimes i wish there was a god, just so he could tell these religious nutters once and for all that Darwin was right!! Nice vid!

[nixonfanatic]

I can't wait to see them foam at the mouth when I show up on the 19th. I'm definitely making an intro to the Bible, though I'll probably hand it out separately, so I don't have to get my hands on that many Bibles. I will put at least one together properly, just to see how they react.

God, if you're up there, please please please make it Ray himself who shows up. Please!

Nix ~

[Katalyzt]

That sounds like a reasonable approach to comforts 50 pages of nonsense.★★★★★

Katalyzt

[Edella]

It's possible I might be naïve, but I think getting younger people to read On The Origin of Species, even with the 50 page BS intro, will be a good thing. From what I've heard, Comfort and Co. will be handing out these copies at places of higher learning. I would urge people to contact the Biology Dept. of their local schools and tell them of this. It could be an opportunity to teach some curious kids. A curious mind is a good thing, and lets face it, we've got the fossils (and more)!

[TheTruePooka]

From what I've seen, the fifty page intro presents Darwin's theory as a quaint little out of date theory and treats it like we would the flat earth theory.

The problem is it also gives it a weight of scientific approval that Ray's theories lack the credibility to deserve.

Otherwise, I have no problem with him presenting his fifty page intro as a separate commentary.

Hmm... comments is too short to go on about what he's doing from a psychological standpoint.

[TheTruePooka]

I like that idea.

Although why it took them fifty pages, I don't know. That's to long to be even good bathroom reading.

[Gnug215]

Heh, not a bad idea.

Also, how about making a rebuttal to WotM's foreword, and arranging to attach that to the foreword in the book?