There are even counters to the counters....but we have not made it that far yet. I do not know for sure, but my guess is once you get to the counters, you figure out what works best and go with it. Move and adjust as you must. Sensei McInnes and Webber are so good they can do this stuff in their sleep. So it just looks flawless even at slow speed.
I was fortunate enough to have been a student of McInnes Sensei for a time back in 1999 and I must say I agree with MelaleucaHalifax. He is no slouch at all and very skilled.
very very fine karate. Theres so much to learn from this video - thanks for posting. Watch and learn Seedx - perhaps 'Youtube' will still be around when you are this good?
Seeddx - Chito Ryu in Canada is highly structured with a specific national curriculum. To be able to test for shodan, you need to be 16. And to arrive at shodan takes *at least* 4 years. Then training really begins.
That's correct, atlanticcanuck. I've been at clinics where I was on the receiving end up his techinque. He's no slouch and knows the technical aspect inside and out.
By the way. The fellow leading that demonstration, Sensei, Robert McInnes (Renshi) is a 6 Dan Rokudan. I am very confident he earned that title.
Sesei Webber, who accompanied him, is at the Nidan level and himself, an excellent instructor. Our club is extremely lucky to have both and a number of other instructors just like them.
Honor and Respect are also good qualities don't you think?
This demonstration was put on for a group of children after a Jrs. tournament. The kids ranged in age from 5 to 16. No black belts amung them I assure you. The point was to show them the technique and skill they can aquire. Not to rush through the movements, but to break them down and illustrate each part carefully and correctly.
If that's a 6th dan, that's pretty pathetic, at that level you need to put way more power, BUT NO! Throw the punches as slow as possilbe. That's what's happening now, belts are rushed in the stupid north american style schools even when they don't deserve the belt. Kids that are black belts before 12? the minimum is 18 for black, and every school recognized by the Japanese government or an association knows it. Gaijin no karate mendokuse desu.
demonstration purposes possibly? noone goes all out when they first learn something either. and things need to be slowed down when teaching, especially to children. thats all i was trying to say. its not a fight, its a class. everyones there for the same reason, and it isnt to prove how tough you are or to hurt people, but to learn and have fun.
I got the point about it being demonstrated in front of kids, that's why I just let it be for like a long while. But if you ask me, when practicing my Bunkai, not demonstrating I put power into it.
While this bunkai does not demonstrate brute power, it does demonstrate other principles well: ie kuzushi, ma, zanshin, ukemi-no matts, timing, hip vibration , tai sabaki.
It is relativley easy to demonstrate power. It is hard to demonstrate the above points. And it is even harder to perform the bunkai with finesse instead of relying on power to take an oppenent down.
If you can take someone down softly, you can certainly do it with power. But it doesnt work the other way.
You know what's harder? doing all the above with power. I don't mean the one that defends uses power, I mean the one that attacks uses power. I think we had a misunderstanding.
purposely practicing slowly and deliberately has great advantages as well though. my first sensei always taught me to flow with the opponent, if he goes slow, i do as well. if he goes real hard, i have to as well. i've actually seen people miss the block and get cracked because they tried to move too quickly
You don't need power to perform bunkai, you need technique, understanding and finess. We have small Black belt women that I could easily pick up and throw that can drop me to my knees (or further depending on the bunkai ^^) with a well done bunkai. Once the other components are in there then the power can make them all the more devastating. On the attacking side the power and speed should always be there.
It flowed nicely. I would love to see it done at speed but also appreciate it done slow so I can see what they are doing Osu.
kambium1 8 months ago
Puen no se a que viene tanto aplauso. Ni que estuvieran haciendo nada del otro mundo
OkinawaT 1 year ago
Awesome! How did I miss this video, don't remember seeing it before. Maybe my brain is failing :(
Iguanasan 1 year ago
good nice counters didn`t know about this kata nice performance
jujitsoka32 1 year ago
Krazy!!! But this wasn't the whole Bunkai right?! By the way what the hell where all those counters from, do people also learn them or HE made them?
Kongohh 2 years ago
There are even counters to the counters....but we have not made it that far yet. I do not know for sure, but my guess is once you get to the counters, you figure out what works best and go with it. Move and adjust as you must. Sensei McInnes and Webber are so good they can do this stuff in their sleep. So it just looks flawless even at slow speed.
atlanticcanuck 2 years ago
I was fortunate enough to have been a student of McInnes Sensei for a time back in 1999 and I must say I agree with MelaleucaHalifax. He is no slouch at all and very skilled.
KuroShin 4 years ago
3 minute video - at a guess 30 years practice ?
very very fine karate. Theres so much to learn from this video - thanks for posting. Watch and learn Seedx - perhaps 'Youtube' will still be around when you are this good?
ashikatana 5 years ago
Seeddx - Chito Ryu in Canada is highly structured with a specific national curriculum. To be able to test for shodan, you need to be 16. And to arrive at shodan takes *at least* 4 years. Then training really begins.
MelaleucaHalifax 5 years ago
That's correct, atlanticcanuck. I've been at clinics where I was on the receiving end up his techinque. He's no slouch and knows the technical aspect inside and out.
MelaleucaHalifax 5 years ago
Seeddx
By the way. The fellow leading that demonstration, Sensei, Robert McInnes (Renshi) is a 6 Dan Rokudan. I am very confident he earned that title.
Sesei Webber, who accompanied him, is at the Nidan level and himself, an excellent instructor. Our club is extremely lucky to have both and a number of other instructors just like them.
Honor and Respect are also good qualities don't you think?
atlanticcanuck 5 years ago
In response to seeddx.
This demonstration was put on for a group of children after a Jrs. tournament. The kids ranged in age from 5 to 16. No black belts amung them I assure you. The point was to show them the technique and skill they can aquire. Not to rush through the movements, but to break them down and illustrate each part carefully and correctly.
atlanticcanuck 5 years ago
If that's a 6th dan, that's pretty pathetic, at that level you need to put way more power, BUT NO! Throw the punches as slow as possilbe. That's what's happening now, belts are rushed in the stupid north american style schools even when they don't deserve the belt. Kids that are black belts before 12? the minimum is 18 for black, and every school recognized by the Japanese government or an association knows it. Gaijin no karate mendokuse desu.
seeddx 5 years ago
seeddx, no doubt a japanese stylist. shotokan? kyokushin? ...its bunkai man, not a fist fight.
kempobrad 4 years ago
Dude I know it's a Bunkai, but the point of Bunkai is to be able to do the technique with relative power, or else what's the point.
seeddx 4 years ago
demonstration purposes possibly? noone goes all out when they first learn something either. and things need to be slowed down when teaching, especially to children. thats all i was trying to say. its not a fight, its a class. everyones there for the same reason, and it isnt to prove how tough you are or to hurt people, but to learn and have fun.
kempobrad 4 years ago
I got the point about it being demonstrated in front of kids, that's why I just let it be for like a long while. But if you ask me, when practicing my Bunkai, not demonstrating I put power into it.
seeddx 4 years ago
Seeddx
While this bunkai does not demonstrate brute power, it does demonstrate other principles well: ie kuzushi, ma, zanshin, ukemi-no matts, timing, hip vibration , tai sabaki.
It is relativley easy to demonstrate power. It is hard to demonstrate the above points. And it is even harder to perform the bunkai with finesse instead of relying on power to take an oppenent down.
If you can take someone down softly, you can certainly do it with power. But it doesnt work the other way.
drkime 4 years ago
You know what's harder? doing all the above with power. I don't mean the one that defends uses power, I mean the one that attacks uses power. I think we had a misunderstanding.
seeddx 4 years ago
purposely practicing slowly and deliberately has great advantages as well though. my first sensei always taught me to flow with the opponent, if he goes slow, i do as well. if he goes real hard, i have to as well. i've actually seen people miss the block and get cracked because they tried to move too quickly
kempobrad 4 years ago
You don't need power to perform bunkai, you need technique, understanding and finess. We have small Black belt women that I could easily pick up and throw that can drop me to my knees (or further depending on the bunkai ^^) with a well done bunkai. Once the other components are in there then the power can make them all the more devastating. On the attacking side the power and speed should always be there.
Zakz2 2 years ago
Really enjoyed watching this one!
eulothg 5 years ago
chito ryu bunkai!
drkime 5 years ago