well you don't know that for a fact now do you? Our history books are filled with false information - I'm not saying I'm right - I'm saying you don't know that FOR A FACT! So you can do all the research you want - it will not provide exactly what the ancient people believed - we can only guess. I'm not interested enough to actually research that comment - sorry.
It's actually in all of the history/geography books of the chinese,arabs,etc. Europeans were the last to explore the world! This is also in the authentic history books. Some of the earliest world travelers were the chinese,arabs,ethiopians,phoenicians, and many more...Before you make statements, at least be able to back them up with factual proof...
The World Health Organization and The National Institutes of Health both endorse Acupuncture for 81 illnesses while the Mayo Clinic and most major US Hospitals have an Acupuncture Department, and The UCLA and Stanford Schools of Medicine both teach it MDs as continuing education. None of these experts could do any of these actions if it was "merely" a placebo. It would even be ILLEGAL for healthcare practitioners to bill insurance for it, yet they do. Good day.
you are an expert in common sense? Are you also an expert in the human body nervous system and electrical system? Do you know how many people have been helped by this? If one would apply common sense to something they do not understand their common sense would tell them to research the subject a little more before they make a blanket statement to indicate they are an expert on the subject - without knowing anything about the subject. Several hundred years ago "common sense" told - contd
Blah blah blah. Fact of the matter is: there is no scientific evidence whatsoever that proves acupuncture does anything besides release small amounts of endorphins.
everyone the world was flat. Before Albert Einstein developed the theory of relativity - common sense (I should say in some people claiming they knew it all) said his theory was wrong. My point is simply this - don't debunk something if you know nothing about it. I know you know nothing about EFT because of your statement.
The arabs were from amongst the first cartographers, they always depicted the world/earth as round, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN? And yes, many of these maps have been historically/scientifically attested to be pre-columbus...READ MORE...Europe is not the beacon of civilization, they didn't and still do not, to some degree even accept acupuncture as a genuine discipline. Does that mean that it is not???
The needle is very slimsy. if the acupuncture on the right press point, you will feel very relax~ I was afraid that before too, but after i tried once, guess what, i begin to love it~
All start with 9 on pain scale. When the study is complete, the patients are asked to rate pain again:
Group A: 6
Group B: 3
Group C: 3
It's a placebo, the very purpose of group B was to control for this effect, and we got a null result. Trained acupuncturist following chi points, or me with a toothpick telling you it's real, same results.
It's not a correlation, it's a controlled study, big difference.
You're missing the point a controlled study. As with every treatment ever conceived, it has to be measured against a placebo for efficacy.
If I give one group a sugar pill, and a second group a new pain killer, and both report similar improvement, we can conclude that the pain killer doesn't work.
How does it show a lack of worth for MD treatment? MD treatment wasn't a variable.
Correlation is part of what a controlled study does. It shows one thing and puts it up against what happened in another situation. That is correlation. This is an inductive reasoning method. In this case, it does not prove a causal link because some other principles entirely could be at work beyond the scope of the study.
As for MD treatment you wrote:
"Group 1 received only M.D. care 2 received M.D. care and true acupuncture
3 received M.D. care and fake acupuncture (random toothpick pokes)"
Both other situations worked better than the control itself. Just because it isn't a variable doesn't mean it logically is not responsible to its involvement.
As for the pain pill, this is not necessarily true, but we consider in our limited knowledge scope and for the sake of a face-paced money making culture of medicine: It is possible that the pain killer does not work, and it seems that there is a probability that it holds no significant value.
Scientific method is an outlet of logic and must obey logic, unless it only considers a scientific methodology in its study (which is a very narrow scope) and speaks only in those terms. In those terms "law" is a "the way we guess that all things are because we see it sometimes is..." and principle is "most likely what happens is."
Science is great.... but its methodology isn't everything. Science must yield to reason.
Of course, and don't think that I believe that acupuncture can't POSSIBLY work.
When I say I don't believe in acupuncture, what I'm really saying is "It has not yet been shown to have anymore effect than a similarly administered placebo"
If a reliable study is published to the contrary, or the mechanism for how it could work are identified, I'll change my mind on the issue.
And I'd love for such a study to be released, acupuncture is a minimally invasive procedure which claims to be able to cure/treat a wide range of afflictions which cause people to suffer.
I would love acupuncture to work.
But no one can say HOW acupuncture works, nor IF it works with any certainty, in fact, when measured, it always looks like it doesn't. Therefore, I don't think it does.
For it to be a placebo you must beleive contrary evidence- which the above study did not provide. The neutral stance, which may be better descriptive of yourself, is a true skeptic (one refusing to pass judgment).
As for the How: How do quatum bits work? You can't measure those either.
Congratuulations. You discovered that acupuncture treats far beyond just pain issues. It is also wonderful for internal medicine such as digestive problems...acid reflux, IBS and much more.
There are no riches above a sound body. The Apocrypha
You might want to get some acupuncture treatments for yourself first so you know what it is like. Then talk with your acupuncturist and ask him/her questions about their work.
Most acupuncture programs in the US are 4 year programs with a 2 year prerequisite. Keep in mind that the schooling takes a tremendous amount of dedication. Most of my classmates dropped out by the first year. Have your goal and a burning desire to complete it firmly in mind.
I have already had numerous acupuncture treatments. It cured my aunt of bells palsy, my mom of a skin disease, and helped me from a clinical depression. I know the education it takes, I am serious about this. I am majoring in Science and have my 60 units down and I'm considering getting and extra 30 so I can go to a better college for acupuncture. I have known the education requirements and have wanted to do this since I was 14 years old.
is there anything you could do about schlatters knee problem?..ive had it for over six years and had a surgery done 07 in my right knee..but i have the same thing in my left..thanks for answers:)
Osgood-Schlatters is a common cause of knee pain in mainly boys ages 10 to 16. It usually clears up when they stop growing. But it can persist into adulthood.
Acupuncture and Chinese herbs address the inflammation and pain of this condition. At our clinic we use the Balance Method Acupuncture. The advantage to using this method of acupuncture is that the affected knee is not needled thereby avoiding any micro trauma to the already inflamed knee yielding quicker and maximum results.
Yes, at our clinic we use the Balance Method of acupuncture along with Master Tong's points. The Balance Method treats stubborn contemporary syndromes (such as CFS, IBS, fibromaylgia) as well as acute and chronic pain conditions with instantaneous results.
Acupuncture cures disease because it is based on the meridians of our body and Yijing Ba Gua, which is the oldest and most complicated art and technology in the world. The key method of acupuncture called the Balance Method and Master Tong's system. Are you practicing these methods?
Yes, it is wonderful that TCM is flourishing in the West. Now people are quickly realizing that Chinese medicine treats not only pain but also depression, poor digestion, chronic fatigue, hypertension, the common cold, allergies and much more.
The truth is that more people use Chinese medicine on our planet than Western medicine. The US is just catching up.
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well you don't know that for a fact now do you? Our history books are filled with false information - I'm not saying I'm right - I'm saying you don't know that FOR A FACT! So you can do all the research you want - it will not provide exactly what the ancient people believed - we can only guess. I'm not interested enough to actually research that comment - sorry.
alanckaye 2 years ago
It's actually in all of the history/geography books of the chinese,arabs,etc. Europeans were the last to explore the world! This is also in the authentic history books. Some of the earliest world travelers were the chinese,arabs,ethiopians,phoenicians, and many more...Before you make statements, at least be able to back them up with factual proof...
melocarbon 2 years ago
The World Health Organization and The National Institutes of Health both endorse Acupuncture for 81 illnesses while the Mayo Clinic and most major US Hospitals have an Acupuncture Department, and The UCLA and Stanford Schools of Medicine both teach it MDs as continuing education. None of these experts could do any of these actions if it was "merely" a placebo. It would even be ILLEGAL for healthcare practitioners to bill insurance for it, yet they do. Good day.
robertlowryjr 2 years ago 7
thank u
alanckaye 2 years ago
it helps alot
thinkinrich 2 years ago 2
doesnt it hurt?
lilguy1171 2 years ago
If it is done right, it shouldn't hurt at all.
liltwinshedevil 2 years ago 2
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It wont cure anything at all, either. Go to a fucking doctor.
Graphic36 2 years ago
and you know this because you are an expert in what field?
alanckaye 2 years ago
Common sense.
Graphic36 2 years ago
you are an expert in common sense? Are you also an expert in the human body nervous system and electrical system? Do you know how many people have been helped by this? If one would apply common sense to something they do not understand their common sense would tell them to research the subject a little more before they make a blanket statement to indicate they are an expert on the subject - without knowing anything about the subject. Several hundred years ago "common sense" told - contd
alanckaye 2 years ago
Blah blah blah. Fact of the matter is: there is no scientific evidence whatsoever that proves acupuncture does anything besides release small amounts of endorphins.
Graphic36 2 years ago
everyone the world was flat. Before Albert Einstein developed the theory of relativity - common sense (I should say in some people claiming they knew it all) said his theory was wrong. My point is simply this - don't debunk something if you know nothing about it. I know you know nothing about EFT because of your statement.
alanckaye 2 years ago
The arabs were from amongst the first cartographers, they always depicted the world/earth as round, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN? And yes, many of these maps have been historically/scientifically attested to be pre-columbus...READ MORE...Europe is not the beacon of civilization, they didn't and still do not, to some degree even accept acupuncture as a genuine discipline. Does that mean that it is not???
melocarbon 2 years ago
The needle is very slimsy. if the acupuncture on the right press point, you will feel very relax~ I was afraid that before too, but after i tried once, guess what, i begin to love it~
MrQianli 2 years ago 2
That doesn't actually prove anything. Basic causality and logic.
If A then B
The only definitive correlation is the condition
If A and not B
And in this case, the statement was false.
All the study has shown is that MDs are worth less when it comes to treating back pain than acupuncture is.
Monessenite 2 years ago
How does that not prove anything?
Group A is Control (MD Treatment only)
Group B is Placebo (MD plus toothpicks)
Group C (MD plus real acupuncture)
All start with 9 on pain scale. When the study is complete, the patients are asked to rate pain again:
Group A: 6
Group B: 3
Group C: 3
It's a placebo, the very purpose of group B was to control for this effect, and we got a null result. Trained acupuncturist following chi points, or me with a toothpick telling you it's real, same results.
RexFordVII 2 years ago
Correlation does not imply causality.
Still yet again, though, it shows a lack of worth when it comes to MD treatment for back pain.
Monessenite 2 years ago
It's not a correlation, it's a controlled study, big difference.
You're missing the point a controlled study. As with every treatment ever conceived, it has to be measured against a placebo for efficacy.
If I give one group a sugar pill, and a second group a new pain killer, and both report similar improvement, we can conclude that the pain killer doesn't work.
How does it show a lack of worth for MD treatment? MD treatment wasn't a variable.
RexFordVII 2 years ago
Correlation is part of what a controlled study does. It shows one thing and puts it up against what happened in another situation. That is correlation. This is an inductive reasoning method. In this case, it does not prove a causal link because some other principles entirely could be at work beyond the scope of the study.
As for MD treatment you wrote:
"Group 1 received only M.D. care 2 received M.D. care and true acupuncture
3 received M.D. care and fake acupuncture (random toothpick pokes)"
Monessenite 2 years ago
Both other situations worked better than the control itself. Just because it isn't a variable doesn't mean it logically is not responsible to its involvement.
Monessenite 2 years ago
As for the pain pill, this is not necessarily true, but we consider in our limited knowledge scope and for the sake of a face-paced money making culture of medicine: It is possible that the pain killer does not work, and it seems that there is a probability that it holds no significant value.
Monessenite 2 years ago
Scientific method is an outlet of logic and must obey logic, unless it only considers a scientific methodology in its study (which is a very narrow scope) and speaks only in those terms. In those terms "law" is a "the way we guess that all things are because we see it sometimes is..." and principle is "most likely what happens is."
Science is great.... but its methodology isn't everything. Science must yield to reason.
Monessenite 2 years ago
Of course, and don't think that I believe that acupuncture can't POSSIBLY work.
When I say I don't believe in acupuncture, what I'm really saying is "It has not yet been shown to have anymore effect than a similarly administered placebo"
If a reliable study is published to the contrary, or the mechanism for how it could work are identified, I'll change my mind on the issue.
RexFordVII 2 years ago
cont.
And I'd love for such a study to be released, acupuncture is a minimally invasive procedure which claims to be able to cure/treat a wide range of afflictions which cause people to suffer.
I would love acupuncture to work.
But no one can say HOW acupuncture works, nor IF it works with any certainty, in fact, when measured, it always looks like it doesn't. Therefore, I don't think it does.
RexFordVII 2 years ago
For it to be a placebo you must beleive contrary evidence- which the above study did not provide. The neutral stance, which may be better descriptive of yourself, is a true skeptic (one refusing to pass judgment).
As for the How: How do quatum bits work? You can't measure those either.
Monessenite 2 years ago
Well, the US government just spent over $2 billion investigating numerous alternative medicine claims.
Pfizer didn't do the tests, The National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine did, with meta analysis by my university among others.
I've been a graduate research assistant for three years, there are no pharma goons stalking the campus, we just publish the data.
RexFordVII 2 years ago
are you saying accupuncture does not work at all?
this is a genuine question
singhakabuttar 2 years ago
Congratuulations. You discovered that acupuncture treats far beyond just pain issues. It is also wonderful for internal medicine such as digestive problems...acid reflux, IBS and much more.
There are no riches above a sound body. The Apocrypha
acupower 3 years ago
I sincerely want to pursure a career in acupuncture. I am currently applying for schools. Any words of wisdom?
snatum 2 years ago
You might want to get some acupuncture treatments for yourself first so you know what it is like. Then talk with your acupuncturist and ask him/her questions about their work.
Most acupuncture programs in the US are 4 year programs with a 2 year prerequisite. Keep in mind that the schooling takes a tremendous amount of dedication. Most of my classmates dropped out by the first year. Have your goal and a burning desire to complete it firmly in mind.
Best of luck.
acupower 2 years ago
I have already had numerous acupuncture treatments. It cured my aunt of bells palsy, my mom of a skin disease, and helped me from a clinical depression. I know the education it takes, I am serious about this. I am majoring in Science and have my 60 units down and I'm considering getting and extra 30 so I can go to a better college for acupuncture. I have known the education requirements and have wanted to do this since I was 14 years old.
snatum 2 years ago
I've had a lot of digestive issues due to stress, so I got acupuncture. I am now happier, healthier, and feel better!!
The treatments are soooooo relaxing and I don't just walk out after a treatment- I float out! TCM is awesome!!!11
AlwaysObserving 3 years ago 2
great vid by the way,could you add more?Thanks in advance.
latinita1988 3 years ago
how does it treat depression?does it make you happier?
latinita1988 3 years ago 4
It's combination of expectation, suggestion, counter-irritation, conditioning, and other psychologic mechanisms.
Acupuncture does release endorphins, which ease pain, but so does getting punched in the face.
And getting punched in the face won't put you at risk for local hematoma, local infections, bacterial endocarditis, punctured lung, and nerve damage.
Plus getting punched in the face is free.
Save your money
RexFordVII 2 years ago
@latinita1988 its ACCUPOWER
angus506 1 year ago
is there anything you could do about schlatters knee problem?..ive had it for over six years and had a surgery done 07 in my right knee..but i have the same thing in my left..thanks for answers:)
S1bban 3 years ago 3
Osgood-Schlatters is a common cause of knee pain in mainly boys ages 10 to 16. It usually clears up when they stop growing. But it can persist into adulthood.
Acupuncture and Chinese herbs address the inflammation and pain of this condition. At our clinic we use the Balance Method Acupuncture. The advantage to using this method of acupuncture is that the affected knee is not needled thereby avoiding any micro trauma to the already inflamed knee yielding quicker and maximum results.
acupower 3 years ago
Yes, at our clinic we use the Balance Method of acupuncture along with Master Tong's points. The Balance Method treats stubborn contemporary syndromes (such as CFS, IBS, fibromaylgia) as well as acute and chronic pain conditions with instantaneous results.
acupower 4 years ago
Acupuncture cures disease because it is based on the meridians of our body and Yijing Ba Gua, which is the oldest and most complicated art and technology in the world. The key method of acupuncture called the Balance Method and Master Tong's system. Are you practicing these methods?
taoistqigong 4 years ago 2
Yes, it is wonderful that TCM is flourishing in the West. Now people are quickly realizing that Chinese medicine treats not only pain but also depression, poor digestion, chronic fatigue, hypertension, the common cold, allergies and much more.
The truth is that more people use Chinese medicine on our planet than Western medicine. The US is just catching up.
acupower 4 years ago
I am glad that TCM is available in the west.
sylvester134 4 years ago 4